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Topic: "Je Suis Charlie" is bullshit.

Anonymous A started this discussion 11 years ago #39,540

You should respect other cultures and promote harmony, not mock cultures with illegal insults.

dw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #526,062

And killing people is an appropriate response if someone doesn't respect those cultures?

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #526,063

People can take a stance on issues for both positive and negative reasons.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 30 seconds later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #526,064

So brave. Also,
> illegal insults
hah

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Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #526,066

@previous (D)
To be fair, that was factually correct. There are legal systems other than our own.

Anonymous D replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #526,067

@previous (C)
Any of them relevant? There is about a 90% certainty that OP is American, so the only laws that I see being relevant here are the American and the French ones. I'm not an expert on either, but I'm reasonably sure that they allow free speech and insults are not illegal.

As such I shall say: hah

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Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #526,068

Do you support the images because you believe in the free speech in the French system, or because you disagree with the illegality in the Sharia system?

Anonymous D replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #526,069

@previous (C)
Don't care about the Sharia system, they can do what they want over there but they lose any rights to respect in other countries when they start aggression/killing people. No matter that, though. The most important point is that insults are not illegal in France (or other civilized countries) so Sharia law is utterly irrelevant.

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Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #526,070

@previous (D)
Some people may be Charlie because they want to disrespect Muslim culture, in retaliation. In that case, Sharia is relevant.

Anonymous D replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #526,071

@previous (C)
How so? Are they in a country where Sharia law applies? If so, that seems quite unwise of them and they should relocate.

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netscape joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #526,086

islam doesn't respect other
cultures nor does it
promote harmony

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #526,091

Group A draws a mocking cartoon.

Group B murders people that offend them.

Which one of these groups has the bigger problem in respecting people and promoting harmony?

Don't worry, I'll give you a moment to think. It's a tricky one.

netscape replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #526,092

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)

> Group A draws a mocking cartoon.
>
> Group B murders people that offend them.
>
> Which one of these groups has the bigger problem in respecting people and promoting harmony?
>
> Don't worry, I'll give you a moment to think. It's a tricky one.

group b

Green joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #526,095

@526,091 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Group C.

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 58 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #526,097

Intolerance will not be tolerated

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #526,100

@526,067 (D)
OP sounds like MAtt. Only a Chinaman would focus on cultural harmony.

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Anonymous H replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #526,101

@previous (I)
*focusæ

Metæ joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 14 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #526,106

I do find the whole Je suis Charlie thing a tad hypocritical.

Notorious French comedian Dieudonné M’bala M’bala has been arrested for being an “apologist for terrorism” after suggesting on Facebook that he sympathised with one of the Paris gunmen, a judicial source has said.

Prosecutors had opened the case against him on Monday after he wrote “Tonight, as far as I’m concerned, I feel like Charlie Coulibaly” – mixing the slogan “Je suis Charlie”, used in tribute to the journalists killed at magazine Charlie Hebdo, with a reference to gunman Amédy Coulibaly. Dieudonné was arrested on Wednesday.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/14/dieudonne-arrest-facebook-post-charlie-coulibaly-paris-gunman

So sure, go as far as you want doing things calculated to cause the greatest possible offense to Muslims, but even sort of vaguely obliquely kinda-sorta hint at anything anti-Semitic and you face up to seven years in prison.

I think the terrorist attacks in Paris were abhorrent and I don't advocate or sympathize with Islamaphobia or Antisemitism, but if France is going to have free speech, they need to be consistent about it.

Anonymous H replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #526,108

@previous (Metæ)
satire is protected speech

J A !!mN+S+BSBW joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #526,127

@previous (H)

> satire is protected speech
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