Topic: What is with the increasing random number of thread deletions/bans on 4chan?
Anonymous A started this discussion 11 years ago #39,511
2, 3 years ago, it was nowhere near this bad. About 5 years ago i would say that things were great and there were no major/consistent problems. For the last year it has been getting steadily worse.I remember when moot decided to standardize ban messages to "improve clarity" or something like that. Most people took it as a sign that moot had finally decided to stop mods from rage banning people who broke no actual rules, with ban messages like "fuck you", "get the fuck out", etc. Things were OK for a while with the new system until the mods realised that they could simply still delete threads they didnt like and issue random short term bans with completely irrelevant ban messages. Since they were short bans, they couldn't be appealed and nobody was going to check to make sure the bans were justified.
Fast forward to today and threads are getting deleted and people banned for attempting to discuss an anime character/series that a mod doesn't like on /a/. Ban mesage? "Off topic". Apparently discussing anime characters/series on /a/ is considered off topic now. Hardly a rare occurence either, and just looking at the bans page (which may or may not be a true random representative of bans, since it's entirely possible that the mods have the option of hiding a ban from the ban page to make themselves look good), it's easy to spot bans that make no sense. Pic related. Also someone keeps randomly deleting fantasy discussion threads from /tg/ for some reason, and there is no way to find out what is going on there.
(If anyone really wants to nitpick it, technically everything can be argued to belong in /r/ as everything is indirectly a request for something, such as discussion on a particular topic. But let's not get autistic over this.)
For a normal site, you could contact the administrators and ask them what is going on. This doesn't work for 4chan because they have gone out of their way to remove all methods to contact them. All non business email addresses were removed (and before they were removed, moot almost never read any of the emails anyway). The IRC channel is specifically noted as not a place to contact the staff (and attempts to do so usaully result in tons of vulgarities hurled at you or sarcastic responses). Nobody responds to attempts to contact the staff via twitter. Almost nothing except the most mundane of posts submitted through the feedback form are replied to (look at the feedback responses, the only ones that get answered are ones like "how do i report post". no, seriously, go look at it now).
You are not even allowed to discuss or mention anything about 4chan on any 4chan board. /q/ is gone, and while it had marginal usefulness when it was alive (almost none of the threads got a official response and threads were often hijacked by backseat moderators who would make up endless "maybes" as excuses), did at least result in SOME responses from the admins.
Not sure what is going on here, but there is a very obvious downhill slide in moderation and massive increase in random thread deletions and bans (especially bans with clearly irrelevant ban messages, like complaining that an anime thread on /a/ is offtopic) and the deliberate removal of all avenues to contact moot or the administration is very conveniently timed. Does this have anything to do with the rumours i've heard about moot making some SJWs mods relatively recently?
netscape joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #525,742
damn op....
you seem mad as fuck....
> Does this have anything to do with the rumours i've heard about moot making some SJWs mods relatively recently?
fuck off
you seem mad as fuck....
> Does this have anything to do with the rumours i've heard about moot making some SJWs mods relatively recently?
fuck off
(Edited 5 minutes later.)
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #525,747
Autism
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #525,749
Because 4chan is shit.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 12 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #525,752
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 16 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #525,769
@525,742 (netscape)
> damn op....
> you seem mad as fuck....
>
>
> >Does this have anything to do with the rumours i've heard about moot making some SJWs mods relatively recently?
>
> fuck off
Well if thats not the reason, then what is?
> damn op....
> you seem mad as fuck....
>
>
> >Does this have anything to do with the rumours i've heard about moot making some SJWs mods relatively recently?
>
> fuck off
Well if thats not the reason, then what is?
Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #525,774
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #525,775
@previous (E)
> Could the Jews be in on this conspiracy, too?
You are the only one who mentioned a conspiracy.
> Could the Jews be in on this conspiracy, too?
You are the only one who mentioned a conspiracy.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 34 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #525,779
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #525,780
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #525,782
@OP
> Does this have anything to do with the rumours i've heard about moot making some SJWs mods relatively recently?
As far as I know, that rumour came from one anonymous poster claiming he was an ex-mod, saying that they and every other established mod had been purged from 4chan's moderation and replaced with a team of "SJW" mods. Not exactly solid evidence, but fear of the SJW boogeyman is rampant on 4chan, so between that and 4chan telling GamerGate to move their discussion elsewhere, a lot of people were willing to believe it. Really, it just sounds like wishful thinking and assumptions, to me.
Think about it, is it more likely that the 4chan moderation staff has suddenly developed an overt political agenda, or that all of 4chan's fear over SJWs is making them assign blame?
This could well just be a tightening of moderation policy to try and cut down shitposting, or a rise in shitposting necessitating increased moderation. There are more down-to-earth explanations.
Edit: having read your post more fully, I will agree that the thing in the OP is odd, as is the /tg/ thing you mentioned.
Edit 2: Just skimmed the ban page myself, and it looks fine to me. All of the stuff that's been deleted has been shite.
> Does this have anything to do with the rumours i've heard about moot making some SJWs mods relatively recently?
As far as I know, that rumour came from one anonymous poster claiming he was an ex-mod, saying that they and every other established mod had been purged from 4chan's moderation and replaced with a team of "SJW" mods. Not exactly solid evidence, but fear of the SJW boogeyman is rampant on 4chan, so between that and 4chan telling GamerGate to move their discussion elsewhere, a lot of people were willing to believe it. Really, it just sounds like wishful thinking and assumptions, to me.
Think about it, is it more likely that the 4chan moderation staff has suddenly developed an overt political agenda, or that all of 4chan's fear over SJWs is making them assign blame?
This could well just be a tightening of moderation policy to try and cut down shitposting, or a rise in shitposting necessitating increased moderation. There are more down-to-earth explanations.
Edit: having read your post more fully, I will agree that the thing in the OP is odd, as is the /tg/ thing you mentioned.
Edit 2: Just skimmed the ban page myself, and it looks fine to me. All of the stuff that's been deleted has been shite.
(Edited 8 minutes later.)
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 20 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,785
Post a thread about syntax and it gets deleted too...
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,787
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,799
Who the fuck gives a shit anymore? Thank God for moot banning Gamergate threads, as that gave people a great excuse to fuck off to 8chan, a site with a superior board format. Basically Reddit in imageboard form, something I've wanted for a while now.
@525,782 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Really, all they had to do to avoid this controversy was allow one Gamergate thread on either /vg/ or /pol/ at a time. They didn't, and everyone involved left to 8chan with much less strict rules.
But I am thankful for 8chan, especially for /8/cuteboys as that faggot cunt moot has something against crossdressers for some reason (skeleton in the closet?).
@525,782 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Really, all they had to do to avoid this controversy was allow one Gamergate thread on either /vg/ or /pol/ at a time. They didn't, and everyone involved left to 8chan with much less strict rules.
But I am thankful for 8chan, especially for /8/cuteboys as that faggot cunt moot has something against crossdressers for some reason (skeleton in the closet?).
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,800
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Didn't 8chan have lots of borderline (if not actual) CP on it, and got shut down as a result? That's not really a point in its favour.
I admit, the create your own board gimmick is a very cool idea, but culture of the site repulses me so much.
As for GamerGate, it was probably too big for just one thread, and it's doubtless spill out into ither threads. But blw they have their own places to talk amongst themselves, and they're off 4chan. So it all worked out.
Didn't 8chan have lots of borderline (if not actual) CP on it, and got shut down as a result? That's not really a point in its favour.
I admit, the create your own board gimmick is a very cool idea, but culture of the site repulses me so much.
As for GamerGate, it was probably too big for just one thread, and it's doubtless spill out into ither threads. But blw they have their own places to talk amongst themselves, and they're off 4chan. So it all worked out.
(Edited 2 minutes later.)
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,804
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> Didn't 8chan have lots of borderline (if not actual) CP on it, and got shut down as a result?
Nope, the CP boards were deleted in October 31 2013. And no, fucking /8/cuteboys is not a goddamn CP board and neither is /8/loli.
https://8chan.co/obscenity.html
> I admit, the create your own board gimmick is a very cool idea, but culture if the board repulses me so much.
The board culture was actually relatively nice until moot fucked with /pol/ and all the unironic MUH DEGENERACY fucks poured right in.
Quite honestly I really do miss the early gamergate, when it was with TFYC and /v/ and fucking Maddox and even Christina Sommers against that hideous fat fucking criminal bitch Matt Miller with tits and purple hair Chelsea Valkenberg and the colluding media. Now it's turned into a fucking Twitter shitfest.
> As for GamerGate, it was probably too big for just one thread, and it's doubtless spill out into ither threads.
Plenty of other topics like that. Don't see the problem with exposing the cronyism and borderline prostitution demanded by those ugly white hipster fucks who "review" games with a faux-progressive outlook.
> But blw they have their own places to talk amongst themselves, and they're off 4chan. So it all worked out.
It is good. Any amount of people leaving 4chan is a good thing. I wouldn't be surprised if /lgbt/ is the next board to go, since it's full of actually logical people who call out stupid tumblr rubbish.
> Didn't 8chan have lots of borderline (if not actual) CP on it, and got shut down as a result?
Nope, the CP boards were deleted in October 31 2013. And no, fucking /8/cuteboys is not a goddamn CP board and neither is /8/loli.
https://8chan.co/obscenity.html
> I admit, the create your own board gimmick is a very cool idea, but culture if the board repulses me so much.
The board culture was actually relatively nice until moot fucked with /pol/ and all the unironic MUH DEGENERACY fucks poured right in.
Quite honestly I really do miss the early gamergate, when it was with TFYC and /v/ and fucking Maddox and even Christina Sommers against that hideous fat fucking criminal bitch Matt Miller with tits and purple hair Chelsea Valkenberg and the colluding media. Now it's turned into a fucking Twitter shitfest.
> As for GamerGate, it was probably too big for just one thread, and it's doubtless spill out into ither threads.
Plenty of other topics like that. Don't see the problem with exposing the cronyism and borderline prostitution demanded by those ugly white hipster fucks who "review" games with a faux-progressive outlook.
> But blw they have their own places to talk amongst themselves, and they're off 4chan. So it all worked out.
It is good. Any amount of people leaving 4chan is a good thing. I wouldn't be surprised if /lgbt/ is the next board to go, since it's full of actually logical people who call out stupid tumblr rubbish.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,823
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
> Nope, the CP boards were deleted in October 31 2013. And no, fucking /8/cuteboys is not a goddamn CP board and neither is /8/loli.
Did you not hear? They were posting some really sketchy stuff just recently. From what I've read, there was tons of borderline CP. That's not really okay. The average person doesn't want to see boards full of half-naked children when they visit a site. And the guy running the place defended it as free speech, so apparently he's not willing to crack down on rampant pedophilia as long as they keep it borderline.
> Quite honestly I really do miss the early gamergate, when it was with TFYC and /v/ and fucking Maddox and even Christina Sommers against that hideous fat fucking criminal bitch Matt Miller with tits and purple hair Chelsea Valkenberg and the colluding media.
Eh... I think even then, it was, at its core, and anti-feminist anti-progressivist movement. There was more enthusiasm about the gaming journalism ethics, sure, but the harassment was also there from the start.
> Nope, the CP boards were deleted in October 31 2013. And no, fucking /8/cuteboys is not a goddamn CP board and neither is /8/loli.
Did you not hear? They were posting some really sketchy stuff just recently. From what I've read, there was tons of borderline CP. That's not really okay. The average person doesn't want to see boards full of half-naked children when they visit a site. And the guy running the place defended it as free speech, so apparently he's not willing to crack down on rampant pedophilia as long as they keep it borderline.
> Quite honestly I really do miss the early gamergate, when it was with TFYC and /v/ and fucking Maddox and even Christina Sommers against that hideous fat fucking criminal bitch Matt Miller with tits and purple hair Chelsea Valkenberg and the colluding media.
Eh... I think even then, it was, at its core, and anti-feminist anti-progressivist movement. There was more enthusiasm about the gaming journalism ethics, sure, but the harassment was also there from the start.
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 20 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,832
Gamergate should just be deleted from the internet entirely. People have been sleeping with other people in exchange for favors since forever, humans suck at equality, the end.
squeegee joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 18 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,835
@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
but the whole gamersgate thing is based on the false claims of a jilted lover who was trying to tarnish his exgirlfriend's reputation.
so it's 100% manufactured outrage over a bit of rumor-mill gossip.
but the whole gamersgate thing is based on the false claims of a jilted lover who was trying to tarnish his exgirlfriend's reputation.
so it's 100% manufactured outrage over a bit of rumor-mill gossip.
Netscape joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,887
@525,769 (A)
> > damn op....
> > you seem mad as fuck....
> >
> >
> > >Does this have anything to do with the rumours i've heard about moot making some SJWs mods relatively recently?
> >
> > fuck off
>
> Well if thats not the reason, then what is?
you go to 4chan
I'm making fun
> > damn op....
> > you seem mad as fuck....
> >
> >
> > >Does this have anything to do with the rumours i've heard about moot making some SJWs mods relatively recently?
> >
> > fuck off
>
> Well if thats not the reason, then what is?
you go to 4chan
I'm making fun
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,889
@525,823 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> > Nope, the CP boards were deleted in October 31 2013. And no, fucking /8/cuteboys is not a goddamn CP board and neither is /8/loli.
> Did you not hear? They were posting some really sketchy stuff just recently. From what I've read, there was tons of borderline CP. That's not really okay. The average person doesn't want to see boards full of half-naked children when they visit a site. And the guy running the place defended it as free speech, so apparently he's not willing to crack down on rampant pedophilia as long as they keep it borderline.
I'm not a fan of it, but I don't think it's illegal to have AT-style discussions. If I were Hotwheels I'd tell them to keep it to drawn, fictional characters please. Thanks.
> > Quite honestly I really do miss the early gamergate, when it was with TFYC and /v/ and fucking Maddox and even Christina Sommers against that hideous fat fucking criminal bitch Matt Miller with tits and purple hair Chelsea Valkenberg and the colluding media.
> Eh... I think even then, it was, at its core, and anti-feminist anti-progressivist movement. There was more enthusiasm about the gaming journalism ethics, sure, but the harassment was also there from the start.
I don't know about that one. Back before Milo and /pol/ ruined it, it was full of left-leaning libertarian types who tend to hate disgusting hypocrites. Also that bitch Zoe Quinn/Chelsea Valkenberg is genuinely rotten.
> > Nope, the CP boards were deleted in October 31 2013. And no, fucking /8/cuteboys is not a goddamn CP board and neither is /8/loli.
> Did you not hear? They were posting some really sketchy stuff just recently. From what I've read, there was tons of borderline CP. That's not really okay. The average person doesn't want to see boards full of half-naked children when they visit a site. And the guy running the place defended it as free speech, so apparently he's not willing to crack down on rampant pedophilia as long as they keep it borderline.
I'm not a fan of it, but I don't think it's illegal to have AT-style discussions. If I were Hotwheels I'd tell them to keep it to drawn, fictional characters please. Thanks.
> > Quite honestly I really do miss the early gamergate, when it was with TFYC and /v/ and fucking Maddox and even Christina Sommers against that hideous fat fucking criminal bitch Matt Miller with tits and purple hair Chelsea Valkenberg and the colluding media.
> Eh... I think even then, it was, at its core, and anti-feminist anti-progressivist movement. There was more enthusiasm about the gaming journalism ethics, sure, but the harassment was also there from the start.
I don't know about that one. Back before Milo and /pol/ ruined it, it was full of left-leaning libertarian types who tend to hate disgusting hypocrites. Also that bitch Zoe Quinn/Chelsea Valkenberg is genuinely rotten.
Netscape replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,893
Wrong
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,896
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,971
@OP
Well shit that huge wall of text was not copypasta. You wrote it all. Seems offtopic here.
It's probably because of political drama and antisemitism being posted a lot.
/b/ doesn't seem censored. You can still post anything there, even scat porn!
Well shit that huge wall of text was not copypasta. You wrote it all. Seems offtopic here.
It's probably because of political drama and antisemitism being posted a lot.
/b/ doesn't seem censored. You can still post anything there, even scat porn!