Topic: question: what have the jews been doing for the last 2000 years?
squeegee started this discussion 11 years ago #39,467
so, like, you read a lot about them in the old testament, but after they killed jesus you don't really hear anything else until 1945 when they were given israel. then you hear all kinds of stuff after that.
i guess i'm aware of the whole "international jew" thing, but that was really recently still.
so i guess what i'm asking is what were the jews doing between the period that they killed jesus and then became international scapegoats for everything bad happening?
there's like 1800 years of history that's just a big blank page for me. anyone care to fill me in on jewish history? was there a diaspora or something?
i guess i'm aware of the whole "international jew" thing, but that was really recently still.
so i guess what i'm asking is what were the jews doing between the period that they killed jesus and then became international scapegoats for everything bad happening?
there's like 1800 years of history that's just a big blank page for me. anyone care to fill me in on jewish history? was there a diaspora or something?
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #525,210
planting people in positions of power and the holocaust pretty much
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #525,211
squeegee (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #525,212
@525,210 (B)
i guess i need to google jerusalem becuase i'm not exactly sure who was ruling there. so i know like rome broke apart and then i think there was the byzantine empire or something in the east? so i guess the jews lost power and were slowly pushed out by the muslims over the last 800 years?
did the jews just go back to wandering? so i guess they just started spreading around the world after that and "lost" their homeland?
i seriously don't know why exactly they were regarded as nationless wanderers or whatever. did they ever really have their own nation or was jerusalem always basically part of some empire?
i guess i need to google jerusalem becuase i'm not exactly sure who was ruling there. so i know like rome broke apart and then i think there was the byzantine empire or something in the east? so i guess the jews lost power and were slowly pushed out by the muslims over the last 800 years?
did the jews just go back to wandering? so i guess they just started spreading around the world after that and "lost" their homeland?
i seriously don't know why exactly they were regarded as nationless wanderers or whatever. did they ever really have their own nation or was jerusalem always basically part of some empire?
squeegee (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #525,214
oh yeah, i forgot about the ottomans
Anonymous B replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #525,215
they even infiltrated minichan i hear
squeegee (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 17 minutes later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #525,217
@previous (B)
they were kicked out and barred from returning to the city many, many times apparently. so i guess they were pretty well forced out and had to settle elsewhere over like a 1000 year period over and over.
also they've been pretty much under the thumb of somone's empire for actually like 4k years. so i guess... i don't understand how they got scapegoated.
i guess it's just the familiar story or blaming societal problems on immigrants? is that what happened? i mean that still happens today...
they were kicked out and barred from returning to the city many, many times apparently. so i guess they were pretty well forced out and had to settle elsewhere over like a 1000 year period over and over.
also they've been pretty much under the thumb of somone's empire for actually like 4k years. so i guess... i don't understand how they got scapegoated.
i guess it's just the familiar story or blaming societal problems on immigrants? is that what happened? i mean that still happens today...
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Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 30 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #525,225
The late 1800s and early 1900s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz
The Owl !xi8/JKFwzo joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #525,226
They became scapegoats after pissing off Hadrian when he rebuilt Jerusalem which had been razed after the jewish revolt iirc
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,239
> there's like 1800 years of history that's just a big blank page for me.
I heard during those 1800 years that the rabbis used to have a lot of control over them and what dogma was correct. Like if you decide to be a secular jew or share Kaballah with gentiles, you'd get executed.
And Zionism is an attempt to bring that control back. There's lots more of this stuff:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/20/israel-mordechai-vanunu-hero-edward-snowden
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/natali-cohen-vaxberg-faces-charges-after-pooping-israeli-flag-n239846
http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/9-young-Jews-arrested-at-NYC-anti-Israel-protest-369365
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/7/23/not_in_our_name_jewish_activists
http://mondoweiss.net/2011/06/a-young-american-jew-describes-being-arrested-for-standing-in-opposition-to-the-jerusalem-day-parade
https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/blog/jewish-activists-arrested-in-civil-disobedience-action-at-friends-of-t
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/gaza-strip-meet-jew-who-was-arrested-attacking-israel-1459874
I heard during those 1800 years that the rabbis used to have a lot of control over them and what dogma was correct. Like if you decide to be a secular jew or share Kaballah with gentiles, you'd get executed.
And Zionism is an attempt to bring that control back. There's lots more of this stuff:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/20/israel-mordechai-vanunu-hero-edward-snowden
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/natali-cohen-vaxberg-faces-charges-after-pooping-israeli-flag-n239846
http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/9-young-Jews-arrested-at-NYC-anti-Israel-protest-369365
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/7/23/not_in_our_name_jewish_activists
http://mondoweiss.net/2011/06/a-young-american-jew-describes-being-arrested-for-standing-in-opposition-to-the-jerusalem-day-parade
https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/blog/jewish-activists-arrested-in-civil-disobedience-action-at-friends-of-t
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/gaza-strip-meet-jew-who-was-arrested-attacking-israel-1459874
Anonymous F double-posted this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,241
@525,217 (squeegee)
> they were kicked out and barred from returning to the city many, many times apparently. so i guess they were pretty well forced out and had to settle elsewhere over like a 1000 year period over and over.
>
It would've been nice if they were given a homeland like Birobidzhan far earlier.
In 1934 the Soviet Government established the Jewish Autonomous Region, popularly known as Birobidzhan, in a sparsely populated area some five thousand miles east of Moscow. Designated as the national homeland of Soviet Jewry, Birobidzhan was part of the Kremlin's effort to create an alternative to Palestine.
That means no having to deal with angry Muslims all around them. No draft. No hot weather.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birobidzhan
> they were kicked out and barred from returning to the city many, many times apparently. so i guess they were pretty well forced out and had to settle elsewhere over like a 1000 year period over and over.
>
It would've been nice if they were given a homeland like Birobidzhan far earlier.
In 1934 the Soviet Government established the Jewish Autonomous Region, popularly known as Birobidzhan, in a sparsely populated area some five thousand miles east of Moscow. Designated as the national homeland of Soviet Jewry, Birobidzhan was part of the Kremlin's effort to create an alternative to Palestine.
That means no having to deal with angry Muslims all around them. No draft. No hot weather.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birobidzhan
squeegee (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,243
@525,239 (F)
so zionism is an attempt to bring back distributed and decentralized power to individual rabbis who have unique interpretations of their religious texts?
really?
so zionism is an attempt to bring back distributed and decentralized power to individual rabbis who have unique interpretations of their religious texts?
really?
squeegee (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,245
@525,241 (F)
ah, so the whole international jewery thing was really just about immigration. so they were a lot of times "refugees" and their adopted countries basically treated them like italians, or the irish, or japanese people, mexicans and now muslims.
got it.
ah, so the whole international jewery thing was really just about immigration. so they were a lot of times "refugees" and their adopted countries basically treated them like italians, or the irish, or japanese people, mexicans and now muslims.
got it.
squeegee (OP) triple-posted this 11 years ago, 38 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,246
xenophobia is a fucking powerful thing, eh?
squeegee (OP) quadruple-posted this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,248
and now that i think about it xenophobia (which was pretty terrible over the last few hundred years) makes a lot more sense than 2000 year old illuminati conspiracy shit.
i mean even the catholics who were trying to rule the world couldn't manage to hold it together for any real length of time. so i doubt a spread out, decentralized group would ever be able to truly weild any power. i mean even as a full blown country they seem to be pretty... not in control of much...
i mean even the catholics who were trying to rule the world couldn't manage to hold it together for any real length of time. so i doubt a spread out, decentralized group would ever be able to truly weild any power. i mean even as a full blown country they seem to be pretty... not in control of much...
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Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,249
@525,243 (squeegee)
> so zionism is an attempt to bring back distributed and decentralized power to individual rabbis who have unique interpretations of their religious texts?
Karl Marx for instance was descended from rabbis and during the time when religion based on supernatural was waning, started his own religion based on class war.
@525,245 (squeegee)
> ah, so the whole international jewery thing was really just about immigration. so they were a lot of times "refugees" and their adopted countries basically treated them like italians, or the irish, or japanese people, mexicans and now muslims.
Emma Lazarus who wrote the famous poem on The Statue of Libery "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free," was jewish. http://www.libertystatepark.com/emma.htm
> so zionism is an attempt to bring back distributed and decentralized power to individual rabbis who have unique interpretations of their religious texts?
Karl Marx for instance was descended from rabbis and during the time when religion based on supernatural was waning, started his own religion based on class war.
@525,245 (squeegee)
> ah, so the whole international jewery thing was really just about immigration. so they were a lot of times "refugees" and their adopted countries basically treated them like italians, or the irish, or japanese people, mexicans and now muslims.
Emma Lazarus who wrote the famous poem on The Statue of Libery "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free," was jewish. http://www.libertystatepark.com/emma.htm
Anonymous F double-posted this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,250
@525,248 (squeegee)
> i mean even the catholics who were trying to rule the world couldn't manage to hold it together for any real length of time. so i doubt a spread out, decentralized group would ever be able to truly weild any power. i mean even as a full blown country they seem to be pretty... not in control of much...
Over 1000 years. That's longer than the USA (the most powerful nation) has existed. That's longer than any Chinese dynasty. It's longer than the Roman Empire lasted, albeit The Catholic Church was a kind of continuation of Rome. The Catholic Church exterminated native European religion and replaced it with their own, which was a massive change.
> i mean even the catholics who were trying to rule the world couldn't manage to hold it together for any real length of time. so i doubt a spread out, decentralized group would ever be able to truly weild any power. i mean even as a full blown country they seem to be pretty... not in control of much...
Over 1000 years. That's longer than the USA (the most powerful nation) has existed. That's longer than any Chinese dynasty. It's longer than the Roman Empire lasted, albeit The Catholic Church was a kind of continuation of Rome. The Catholic Church exterminated native European religion and replaced it with their own, which was a massive change.
Anonymous F triple-posted this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,251
@525,248 (squeegee)
> 2000 year old illuminati conspiracy shit.
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_King_List -- the oldest kings lived a very long time. Antediluvian rulers lived tens of thousands of years. Post-Antediluvian rulers lived thousands for some time. If you add up all the timelines, and chart it with human evolution it adds up to an interesting start of about 450,000 years ago, to Homo heidelbergensis, the first pre-human species to bury its dead.
Conspiracy theories are cool by the way. Don't forget a jew started the game series Deus Ex. There's awesome quotes in the first game. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Deus_Ex
> 2000 year old illuminati conspiracy shit.
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_King_List -- the oldest kings lived a very long time. Antediluvian rulers lived tens of thousands of years. Post-Antediluvian rulers lived thousands for some time. If you add up all the timelines, and chart it with human evolution it adds up to an interesting start of about 450,000 years ago, to Homo heidelbergensis, the first pre-human species to bury its dead.
Conspiracy theories are cool by the way. Don't forget a jew started the game series Deus Ex. There's awesome quotes in the first game. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Deus_Ex
squeegee (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,254
@525,250 (F)
yeah, but they had powerful central control and a single message, not hundreds or more rabbis each with their own interpretation. you can't control much like that. even marx's ideas needed strong authoritarian centralized control.
@525,249 (F)
yeah, but we also killed the irish in the streets becuase they were "ruining the city." so her words, today especially, are pretty hollow. today we don't want immigrants that aren't already successful basically. yesterday on NPR i heard someone say, "if you want to work and earn, we want you, if you want to mooch off our social welfare, gtfo," basically.
yeah, but they had powerful central control and a single message, not hundreds or more rabbis each with their own interpretation. you can't control much like that. even marx's ideas needed strong authoritarian centralized control.
@525,249 (F)
yeah, but we also killed the irish in the streets becuase they were "ruining the city." so her words, today especially, are pretty hollow. today we don't want immigrants that aren't already successful basically. yesterday on NPR i heard someone say, "if you want to work and earn, we want you, if you want to mooch off our social welfare, gtfo," basically.
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Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 12 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,257
@previous (squeegee)
> yeah, but we also killed the irish in the streets becuase they were "ruining the city."
I dunno about that. What I know is that Irish besides forcibly starved with 1.5 million dead, were shipped off as slaves in the Americas and treated worse than blacks. Because blacks they had to pay some tribal chieftans in Africa for (white people couldn't survive very long in Africa back then so they couldn't snatch slaves hiding in the jungle) whereas the Irish they just snatched up out of their homes.
> today we don't want immigrants that aren't already successful basically. yesterday on NPR i heard someone say, "if you want to work and earn, we want you, if you want to mooch off our social welfare, gtfo," basically.
Immigrants tend to have a far easier time getting jobs than citizens for some reason.
> yeah, but we also killed the irish in the streets becuase they were "ruining the city."
I dunno about that. What I know is that Irish besides forcibly starved with 1.5 million dead, were shipped off as slaves in the Americas and treated worse than blacks. Because blacks they had to pay some tribal chieftans in Africa for (white people couldn't survive very long in Africa back then so they couldn't snatch slaves hiding in the jungle) whereas the Irish they just snatched up out of their homes.
> today we don't want immigrants that aren't already successful basically. yesterday on NPR i heard someone say, "if you want to work and earn, we want you, if you want to mooch off our social welfare, gtfo," basically.
Immigrants tend to have a far easier time getting jobs than citizens for some reason.
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netscape joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 35 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,258
stealing land from underneath peoples feet
comitting war crimes (though that is not
to say america is innocent!!)
generally just being dicks
in the name of a promised land
that was written about
in a made up book
comitting war crimes (though that is not
to say america is innocent!!)
generally just being dicks
in the name of a promised land
that was written about
in a made up book
Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,268
@previous (netscape)
> stealing land from underneath peoples feet
> comitting war crimes
I'm not sure who you're talking about there, but that's the history of mankind.
> stealing land from underneath peoples feet
> comitting war crimes
I'm not sure who you're talking about there, but that's the history of mankind.
netscape replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,272
@previous (F)
> > stealing land from underneath peoples feet
> > comitting war crimes
>
> I'm not sure who you're talking about there, but that's the history of mankind.
ah yeah i forgot
that makes it
alright....
ＹＯＵ ＤＵＭＢＡＳＳ
> > stealing land from underneath peoples feet
> > comitting war crimes
>
> I'm not sure who you're talking about there, but that's the history of mankind.
ah yeah i forgot
that makes it
alright....
ＹＯＵ ＤＵＭＢＡＳＳ
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,274
@525,257 (F)
> Immigrants tend to have a far easier time getting jobs than citizens for some reason.
Because SJs want to regulate who you can hire based on their skin color/religion/country of birth etc. They need to let businesses hire based on qualifications and work on making educational opportunities equal. When a black man can be as proficient in math as a Chinese man and a Mexican can write computer software on the same level as a Caucasian, then you won't have to worry about diversity quotas.
> Immigrants tend to have a far easier time getting jobs than citizens for some reason.
Because SJs want to regulate who you can hire based on their skin color/religion/country of birth etc. They need to let businesses hire based on qualifications and work on making educational opportunities equal. When a black man can be as proficient in math as a Chinese man and a Mexican can write computer software on the same level as a Caucasian, then you won't have to worry about diversity quotas.
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netscape replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,275
Not only that but the jews couldn't
have gotten their land grabbing
over with in the last 2000
or so years? no so called
"first world nation"
does that anymore
have gotten their land grabbing
over with in the last 2000
or so years? no so called
"first world nation"
does that anymore
squeegee (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 second later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,276
@525,251 (F)
interesting. but i am in the camp that believes no human has ever lived a life much longer than the average at the time. no human has probably ever lived longer than todays longest lived humans. a human living past 100 in biblical times or before is just a story, and matching up with early human burial is merely coincidental.
i just have a hard time believing a single sentence from the bible that says moses lived 900 years or whatever is not actual proof.
interesting. but i am in the camp that believes no human has ever lived a life much longer than the average at the time. no human has probably ever lived longer than todays longest lived humans. a human living past 100 in biblical times or before is just a story, and matching up with early human burial is merely coincidental.
i just have a hard time believing a single sentence from the bible that says moses lived 900 years or whatever is not actual proof.
Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 25 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,277
@525,274 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
http://www.wsj.com/articles/bipartisan-senate-bills-would-increase-visas-and-green-cards-for-high-tech-workers-1421191748
http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/03/the-myth-of-the-science-and-engineering-shortage/284359/
http://www.wsj.com/articles/bipartisan-senate-bills-would-increase-visas-and-green-cards-for-high-tech-workers-1421191748
http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/03/the-myth-of-the-science-and-engineering-shortage/284359/
netscape replied with this 11 years ago, 59 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,278
@525,274 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
> >Immigrants tend to have a far easier time getting jobs than citizens for some reason.
> Because SJs want to regulate who you can hire based on their skin color/religion/country of birth etc. They need to let businesses hire based on qualifications and work on making educational opportunities equal. When a black man can be as proficient in math as a Chinese man and a Mexican can write computer software on the same level as a Caucasian, then you won't have to worry about diversity quotas.
what about ｎｅｉｌ ｄｅｇｒａｓｓｅ ｔｙｓｏｎ
he is an astrophysicist!!!!
> >Immigrants tend to have a far easier time getting jobs than citizens for some reason.
> Because SJs want to regulate who you can hire based on their skin color/religion/country of birth etc. They need to let businesses hire based on qualifications and work on making educational opportunities equal. When a black man can be as proficient in math as a Chinese man and a Mexican can write computer software on the same level as a Caucasian, then you won't have to worry about diversity quotas.
what about ｎｅｉｌ ｄｅｇｒａｓｓｅ ｔｙｓｏｎ
he is an astrophysicist!!!!
Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 44 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,279
squeegee (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,280
@525,275 (netscape)
they were given israel by the us, the brits and the ruskies. they didn't take anything... and probably would have been stupid to decline an actual sovereign nation of their own.
maybe it wasn't ours to give originally, but we did win the war and dividing up countries and carving out states is a winners... perogative.
they were given israel by the us, the brits and the ruskies. they didn't take anything... and probably would have been stupid to decline an actual sovereign nation of their own.
maybe it wasn't ours to give originally, but we did win the war and dividing up countries and carving out states is a winners... perogative.
squeegee (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,281
@525,279 (F)
ah, gotcha. yeah... nah. interesting stuff, but for me it's just something to think up reasons to argue against.
ah, gotcha. yeah... nah. interesting stuff, but for me it's just something to think up reasons to argue against.
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netscape replied with this 11 years ago, 41 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,282
@525,280 (squeegee)
> they were given israel by the us, the brits and the ruskies. they didn't take anything... and probably would have been stupid to decline an actual sovereign nation of their own.
>
> maybe it wasn't ours to give originally, but we did win the war and dividing up countries and carving out states is a winners... perogative.
they immediately kicked out all palestinians
and forced them into ghettos; but yet
nobody talks about that being ironic
> they were given israel by the us, the brits and the ruskies. they didn't take anything... and probably would have been stupid to decline an actual sovereign nation of their own.
>
> maybe it wasn't ours to give originally, but we did win the war and dividing up countries and carving out states is a winners... perogative.
they immediately kicked out all palestinians
and forced them into ghettos; but yet
nobody talks about that being ironic
netscape double-posted this 11 years ago, 50 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,283
I should also mention, palestinians
are obviously upset, yet whenever
someone mentions it, it is
labeled as being
anti-semetic
just, ugh..
especially now
whenever someone
or any place in israel
is attacked it is
automatically listed
as being anti-semetic
instead of it just being
labeled as the real reason!
which is, pissed off palestinians
dont get me wrong though
i dont like islam too much..
but how can one claim to be
any sort of "less guilty" than another
are obviously upset, yet whenever
someone mentions it, it is
labeled as being
anti-semetic
just, ugh..
especially now
whenever someone
or any place in israel
is attacked it is
automatically listed
as being anti-semetic
instead of it just being
labeled as the real reason!
which is, pissed off palestinians
dont get me wrong though
i dont like islam too much..
but how can one claim to be
any sort of "less guilty" than another
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Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,284
netscape replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,285
@previous (F)
> I will leave that for Fake_anon to explain. I hope he chimes in.
I do not care what anyone has to say about it.
it is wrong, anyone involved in it is in
the wrong, bottom line, has nothing to
do with religion (for me at least)
in the slightest
but also before anyone takes this the
wrong way, just let it be known
that i dont hate jews, but i
do think zionism is shitty
> I will leave that for Fake_anon to explain. I hope he chimes in.
I do not care what anyone has to say about it.
it is wrong, anyone involved in it is in
the wrong, bottom line, has nothing to
do with religion (for me at least)
in the slightest
but also before anyone takes this the
wrong way, just let it be known
that i dont hate jews, but i
do think zionism is shitty
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Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 24 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,286
@525,282 (netscape)
They could just buy them land somewhere else and then forcibly move them to new homes elsewhere. But they don't. Israel was a country was given not to the jews, but to the Rothschild family, to whom every dollar in US currency is essentialy an IOU to their family so they can afford buying them all new homes elsewhere and moving them.
They could just buy them land somewhere else and then forcibly move them to new homes elsewhere. But they don't. Israel was a country was given not to the jews, but to the Rothschild family, to whom every dollar in US currency is essentialy an IOU to their family so they can afford buying them all new homes elsewhere and moving them.
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netscape replied with this 11 years ago, 56 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,287
@previous (F)
> They could just buy them land somewhere else and then forcibly move them to new homes elsewhere. But they don't. Israel was a country was given not to the jews, but to the Rothschild family, to whom every dollar in US currency is essentialy an IOU to their family.
please try to be serious about this
instead of spouting alex jones
bullshit
> They could just buy them land somewhere else and then forcibly move them to new homes elsewhere. But they don't. Israel was a country was given not to the jews, but to the Rothschild family, to whom every dollar in US currency is essentialy an IOU to their family.
please try to be serious about this
instead of spouting alex jones
bullshit
Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 56 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,289
@525,285 (netscape)
> but also before anyone takes this the
> wrong way, just let it be known
> that i dont hate jews, but i
> do think zionism is shitty
Nazis used jews as the boogyman to control Germans.
Zionists use antisemitism as the boogyman to control jews.
> but also before anyone takes this the
> wrong way, just let it be known
> that i dont hate jews, but i
> do think zionism is shitty
Nazis used jews as the boogyman to control Germans.
Zionists use antisemitism as the boogyman to control jews.
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squeegee (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,290
@525,282 (netscape)
well, technically the jews had the land way before muslims. the muslims took it for themselves a long time ago, then had it taken away from them and were forced to share it, and then it was taken back.
idk, jerusalem has changed hands 44 times or something in its long history.
no one can really claim it as their birthright. even people born there are all decended from usurpers. i think even the jews that originally settled there took it from someone. the site goes way back into the bronze age, so there's no telling who "has rights to it."
it's not like america where the land was undeniably stolen from the native americans who settled here 40k years ago in the stone age.
well, technically the jews had the land way before muslims. the muslims took it for themselves a long time ago, then had it taken away from them and were forced to share it, and then it was taken back.
idk, jerusalem has changed hands 44 times or something in its long history.
no one can really claim it as their birthright. even people born there are all decended from usurpers. i think even the jews that originally settled there took it from someone. the site goes way back into the bronze age, so there's no telling who "has rights to it."
it's not like america where the land was undeniably stolen from the native americans who settled here 40k years ago in the stone age.
Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 28 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,291
@525,287 (netscape)
I am. If they want the Palestinians gone, they could buy them land somewhere else and then just pack their stuff up and move them by force instead of slowly killing them.
Also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration it was to Lord Rothschild.
I am. If they want the Palestinians gone, they could buy them land somewhere else and then just pack their stuff up and move them by force instead of slowly killing them.
Also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration it was to Lord Rothschild.
netscape replied with this 11 years ago, 11 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,292
@525,289 (F)
> > but also before anyone takes this the
> > wrong way, just let it be known
> > that i dont hate jews, but i
> > do think zionism is shitty
>
> Nazis used jews as the boogyman to control Germans.
> Zionists use antisemitism as the boogyman to control jews.
i was speaking of the rothschilds
i know they do some shady shit
but to say they bought israel
that is just laughable
> > but also before anyone takes this the
> > wrong way, just let it be known
> > that i dont hate jews, but i
> > do think zionism is shitty
>
> Nazis used jews as the boogyman to control Germans.
> Zionists use antisemitism as the boogyman to control jews.
i was speaking of the rothschilds
i know they do some shady shit
but to say they bought israel
that is just laughable
Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,294
@previous (netscape)
Near the end of WWI, German had blockaded Britain and the people were starving to death. The Rothschilds went to Britain and said they'll bring the US and Russia into the war if upon winning, they give the Rothschilds Palestine.
Near the end of WWI, German had blockaded Britain and the people were starving to death. The Rothschilds went to Britain and said they'll bring the US and Russia into the war if upon winning, they give the Rothschilds Palestine.
netscape replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,296
i'd also like to say that if the united states
does anything, it should be dropping
all sorts of nuclear weapons
on isis, collateral damage
will happen sure....
but i also think that
it might be a small
price to pay for
everyone else's
safety
does anything, it should be dropping
all sorts of nuclear weapons
on isis, collateral damage
will happen sure....
but i also think that
it might be a small
price to pay for
everyone else's
safety
squeegee (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 38 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,298
@525,291 (F)
he was the head of a jewish federation, it wasn't "to him personally," but to the jewish federation he represented.
this is all from your wiki link. did you read it?
he was the head of a jewish federation, it wasn't "to him personally," but to the jewish federation he represented.
this is all from your wiki link. did you read it?
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squeegee (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 30 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,299
Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,302
@525,296 (netscape)
ISIS isn't located in one specific spot to target with a bomb. They're hidding all around and getting new members all the time. http://www.tinychan.org/topic/40266
ISIS isn't located in one specific spot to target with a bomb. They're hidding all around and getting new members all the time. http://www.tinychan.org/topic/40266
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,303
netscape replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,304
@525,302 (F)
> ISIS isn't located in one specific spot to target with a bomb. They're hidding all around and getting new members all the time. http://www.tinychan.org/topic/40266
they are headquartered in syria
most of their action takes
place in syria-
I know they have other members in different places
but they are all the same radical islamists
the only people that can stop ISIS
are muslims themselves, -
you know how well that
has worked out so far
e: i hate bill mahr, but he did an alright job of
explaining his position, of which i am sort of
the same, i am as liberal as they come
but i cannot be cool with people being
executed in the name of "oooo
we feel so insulted!!!" shit
happens, they obviously
cannot deal with it
like human beings;
its unfortunate
> ISIS isn't located in one specific spot to target with a bomb. They're hidding all around and getting new members all the time. http://www.tinychan.org/topic/40266
they are headquartered in syria
most of their action takes
place in syria-
I know they have other members in different places
but they are all the same radical islamists
the only people that can stop ISIS
are muslims themselves, -
you know how well that
has worked out so far
e: i hate bill mahr, but he did an alright job of
explaining his position, of which i am sort of
the same, i am as liberal as they come
but i cannot be cool with people being
executed in the name of "oooo
we feel so insulted!!!" shit
happens, they obviously
cannot deal with it
like human beings;
its unfortunate
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Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,305
netscape replied with this 11 years ago, 36 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,306
@previous (F)
> I heard that here http://youtu.be/iKzlh9kN4HI?t=35m
you've invalidated every
point you could have
made
> I heard that here http://youtu.be/iKzlh9kN4HI?t=35m
you've invalidated every
point you could have
made
Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,307
@previous (netscape)
Sources are
https://board.freedomainradio.com/topic/41159-youtube-the-truth-about-israel-and-palestine/
Sources are
https://board.freedomainradio.com/topic/41159-youtube-the-truth-about-israel-and-palestine/
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squeegee (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,313
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,323
@previous (squeegee)Haven't you heard? Asking for credible sources is racist.
Well shit, that's a thumbnail.
Here: http://img.tinychan.org/img/1421186482648325.jpg
(Edited 1 minute later.)
squeegee (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,327
@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
i was going to ask, does that say "otherizing?"
and then i saw the full sized version and it does. lol
i was going to ask, does that say "otherizing?"
and then i saw the full sized version and it does. lol
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Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,330
@525,313 (squeegee)
His facts are credible. His opinions aren't.
Here http://history1900s.about.com/cs/holocaust/p/balfourdeclare.htm "During World War I, Great Britain needed help."
Britain got help in WWI and in return for it, gave the helpers their own country. Pretty simple.
His facts are credible. His opinions aren't.
Here http://history1900s.about.com/cs/holocaust/p/balfourdeclare.htm "During World War I, Great Britain needed help."
Britain got help in WWI and in return for it, gave the helpers their own country. Pretty simple.
squeegee (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,340
@previous (F)
but israel was created after ww2, not ww1.
the thing you cite was not about creating a state or giving the jews land. in fact the declaration itself specifically says so...
the guy you cite seems to be confusing things.
but israel was created after ww2, not ww1.
the thing you cite was not about creating a state or giving the jews land. in fact the declaration itself specifically says so...
the guy you cite seems to be confusing things.
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netscape replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,344
@525,307 (F)
> Sources are
> https://board.freedomainradio.com/topic/41159-youtube-the-truth-about-israel-and-palestine/
hahaha more bullshit, nice
its on the internet
it must be true!!
> Sources are
> https://board.freedomainradio.com/topic/41159-youtube-the-truth-about-israel-and-palestine/
hahaha more bullshit, nice
its on the internet
it must be true!!
swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 42 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,392
J A joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 58 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,419
@previous (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
This thread is kind of long...
but yes, I too, agree completely, with whatever they let slip, out they mouth.
This thread is kind of long...
but yes, I too, agree completely, with whatever they let slip, out they mouth.