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In 1997, doctors in Canada did a study to see what type of anesthesia was most effective in relieving the pain of circumcision. As with any study, they needed a control group that received no anesthesia. The doctors quickly realized that the babies who were not anesthetized were in so much pain that it would be unethical to continue with the study. Even the best commonly available method of pain relief studied, the dorsal penile nerve block, did not block all the babies' pain. Some of the babies in the study were in such pain that they began choking and one even had a seizure
Seeing this, makes you think feminists are assholes for not even touching this but then again, i suspect that most of the protestors are women because the men with a mutilated penis are too prideful to admit that what happened to them wasn't anything to be proud of.
netscape joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 20 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^][v]#523,286
i am circumsized but i did not think about it until later how much pain it puts the child in
and is completely unnecessary
in terms of the after effects i still dont think i prefer one or the other, i have heard horror stories of people ripping their foreskin in the shower trying to clean it
and when i think about those things it makes me wonder if i just opted to experience that pain earlier in life compared to if i did not get circumsision, the possibility of me doing damage to my body trying to clean it
idk
genitals are strange
edit: i should clarify i am grateful to have them, genitals, and not have to use a catheter i suppose, genital mutilation of all kind creeps me out, even those who have opted to have sex changes, or opted to go through nullification for other reasons, chemical castration- sexual reasons
i feel like i would rather add more abilities to my body rather than get rid of some, for any reason, unless it is damaged i guess!
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Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^][v]#523,289
> i have heard horror stories of people ripping their foreskin in the shower trying to clean it
Well i think that has something to do with the very same people who advocate circumcision?
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#523,343
@523,199 (I)
Do Egyptian women sound like whiners just because their genital mutilation aint as bad as the one in Somalia? Did you know that even a pinprick to draw blood counts as illegal FGM? @523,270 (J)
You would be surprised how many anticircs are feminists...
Anonymous I replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#523,347
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
You're over-the-top, buddy. First you make a weird analogy (really bad thing exists, so anthing imagined to be of the same kind is also bad no matter if minimized) and then you shoot down your own analogy by pointing out the problem with it (minimizing past the post of reason -- pinprick is not mutilation). Relax and stop thinking about sleek weiners so much. Cocks cocks cocks.
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Anonymous I double-posted this 11 years ago, 55 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#523,348
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#523,349
@523,347 (I)
Should women in Egypt quit whining about their "designer vaginas"?
Also, intact dicks look really nice and sleek. Restoration is also great, looking into a device myself
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Anonymous I replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#523,350
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Make a cunt thread about it. What is your thread title here again?
"Restoration" lol, you are doing this on a lark aren't you, you bored and idle devil
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#523,353
@previous (I)
Not even kidding. It is something i am genuinely considering.
Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#523,389
> You're over-the-top, buddy.
Nah, but my regrown foreskin will be over-the-top of my dickhead. > First you make a weird analogy (really bad thing exists, so anthing imagined to be of the same kind is also bad no matter if minimized)
Non-consensual mutilation is non-consensual mutilation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaEoQVZnN8IThe Consequences can be worse for Boy than for Girl (unlike you, Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a survivor of FGM, though according to you it is not FGM at all, since "pinprick is not mutilation") https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggqa6CCTR-4Soraya Mire on male and female genital mutilation (another survivor of FGM) > and then you shoot down your own analogy by pointing out the problem with it (minimizing past the post of reason -- pinprick is not mutilation).
I guess you know more about FGM than the World Health Organization. You wouldn't happen to be part of the American Academy of Pediatrics, would you?
http://www.who.int/reproductivehealth/topics/fgm/overview/en/
Female genital mutilation is classified into four major types.
1. Clitoridectomy: partial or total removal of the clitoris (a small, sensitive and erectile part of the female genitals) and, in very rare cases, only the prepuce (the fold of skin surrounding the clitoris).
2. Excision: partial or total removal of the clitoris and the labia minora, with or without excision of the labia majora (the labia are "the lips" that surround the vagina).
3. Infibulation: narrowing of the vaginal opening through the creation of a covering seal. The seal is formed by cutting and repositioning the inner, or outer, labia, with or without removal of the clitoris. 4. Other: all other harmful procedures to the female genitalia for non-medical purposes, e.g. pricking, piercing, incising, scraping and cauterizing the genital area.
> Relax and stop thinking about sleek weiners so much. Cocks cocks cocks.
Fuck off. Do not post in my threads again, you ignorant piece of shit. People like you are why genital mutilation still exists at all.
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swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#523,415
> >i have heard horror stories of people ripping their foreskin in the shower trying to clean it > > Well i think that has something to do with the very same people who advocate circumcision?
but i think you should have the option later on in life
that way you could opt to have a proper procedure
and anesthesia can be used
there is no reason for it to be done at such a young age and in such a way
and the fact that we still do it the same way it has always been done within the 21st century
i mean there are no mohel's putting their mouths on infant genitals anymore as far as i know
it makes me kinda sad
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 54 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#523,667
> but i think you should have the option later on in life
Agreed 100%. If my future sons wanted to get cut I would be happy to find a way to pay for it. A good surgeon too. > there is no reason for it to be done at such a young age and in such a way
Agreed. Even phimosis can be treated without a circ, thanks to steroid creams and stretches, or even preputioplasty or minimal circ. > i mean there are no mohel's putting their mouths on infant genitals anymore as far as i know
I have some bad news for ya. http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Haredi-circumcision-practice-infects-New-York-baby-with-herpes-385675
Anonymous I replied with this 11 years ago, 21 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#523,674
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
still obsessing over your cock, haha
get a hobby that isn't cock-related
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swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 5 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#523,675
@523,652 (netscape)
There are definitely Mohels that still perform that procedure.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#523,679
@523,674 (I)
Can't refute my post, anon? Sorry, but your homophobic accusation won't stick to me.
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HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#523,680
@523,675 (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
How do you feel about Anon I trying to redefine the definition of FGM?
netscape replied with this 11 years ago, 57 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#523,688
swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#523,739
@523,680 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
I feel like its unnecessary. A pin prick is still mutilation, even if its not as severe as cutting off a labia.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#523,810
@previous (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
Why is it that those who get offended when I call circumcision genital mutilation, often find themselves trivializing the much less severe forms of female genital mutilation in an effort to discredit the act of calling circumcision genital mutilation? "pinprick is not mutilation" > A pin prick is still mutilation, even if its not as severe as cutting off a labia.
I agree. This is why there are degrees, or tiers, of FGM. All of it is bad, but some are worse than others.
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swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#523,817
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
I really dont know why people do this.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#523,830
@previous (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
Because they don't know what FGM really is. I can't blame them, since the news media often goes "YOU CAN'T COMPARE THE TWO, ONE IS THIS HORRIFIC PROCEDURE DONE IN BUMFUCK AFRICA DONE TO OPPRESS WOMEN (note: it's actually almost entirely done by women to girls because they think it's what their men prefer and because they think it's cleaner; sound familiar??), while the other is done in a hospital done by professionals". Which is all fine and good if you want to defend your own culture's genital cutting (ours of course is done to males) while appealing to those who blast the female genital cutting, but it is effectively letting the camel's nose into the tent.
And this isn't even mentioning what's done to the intersex children... Now THAT is great shame on us.
netscape replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#523,835
walter is showing a lot of interest in
little kids wieners
truly disgusting
Green joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 second later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#523,836
@523,830 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
They're is no conspiracy you cunt. I was circumcised and I fucking loved it.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#523,849
@523,835 (netscape)
I would rather people have less interest in little kid weiners. That's the whole point here. People need to fricken stop and leave them alone. @previous (Green)
Weren't you cut for a medical reason?
Green replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#523,854
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
I was cut fora medical reason. I would've been severly ill if I hadn't.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#523,864
@previous (Green)
Well that's a good reason I guess.
Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#523,869