Topic: Women should stop dressing so sluttily if they don't want to get raped.
Anonymous A started this discussion 15 years ago #3,930
> dress up like a whore
> get drunk at a bar
> raep
> "OMG why me???"
> get drunk at a bar
> raep
> "OMG why me???"
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #70,796
That doesn't give someone the right to rape her, you ignorant twat. Choosing to dress a specific way gives no one the right to force themselves on another person.
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 seconds later, 1 minute after the original post[^] [v] #70,797
Tons of men, women and children are raped and very few are dressed provocatively. Unlike what some people think, men can control themselves, they just choose not to.
psychopath !PAHVpsycho joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,799
A woman is at its most fertile when she is getting raped. This also weeds out the non-strong in society and allows only those that are strong and smart enough to breed.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 38 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,803
Nigga, you just went full boners.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,805
5/10.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 44 seconds later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,807
@70,796 (B)
> That doesn't give someone the right to rape her, you ignorant twat.
I never said it did.
> Choosing to dress a specific way gives no one the right to force themselves on another person.
Idiot. They have the right, doesn't mean it's not tempting to people.
> That doesn't give someone the right to rape her, you ignorant twat.
I never said it did.
> Choosing to dress a specific way gives no one the right to force themselves on another person.
Idiot. They have the right, doesn't mean it's not tempting to people.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,810
@70,797 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
Who do you think is going to have a better chance of getting raped:
A drunk woman wearing a short skirt.
A sober woman dressed casually.
Doesn't matter if the man can control himself, many wont, and you have to acknowledge that.
Who do you think is going to have a better chance of getting raped:
A drunk woman wearing a short skirt.
A sober woman dressed casually.
Doesn't matter if the man can control himself, many wont, and you have to acknowledge that.
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Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,811
@70,805 (F)
I'm a troll for saying women who get drunk and dress like sluts are going to get raped? Are you a fucking idiot?
> hurr men are equal opportunity rapists
I'm a troll for saying women who get drunk and dress like sluts are going to get raped? Are you a fucking idiot?
> hurr men are equal opportunity rapists
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 27 seconds later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,812
7/10. I have to admit, quite good. Bonus points on the fresh approach, women's rights hasn't been used as much as it could be, and it's got plenty of potential.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,818
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0/10
0/10
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 7 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,819
@70,810 (A)
No, it depends on circumstance. Such as the area, the time, and how the person projects themselves. If a woman is in a sexy dress, but walks with her head held high and keeps track of her surroundings, she is much less likely to be raped then someone on headphones who walks with their head down. Before you can make a claim like this, you have to do research into what rape victims are normally wearing at the time.
No, it depends on circumstance. Such as the area, the time, and how the person projects themselves. If a woman is in a sexy dress, but walks with her head held high and keeps track of her surroundings, she is much less likely to be raped then someone on headphones who walks with their head down. Before you can make a claim like this, you have to do research into what rape victims are normally wearing at the time.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 53 seconds later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,820
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 37 seconds later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,823
matt !!3gpAcg/hF joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 12 seconds later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,824
what if the rapist is blind?
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 51 seconds later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,828
@70,823 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
> men go after drunk women dressed as sluts
> silly claims.
Can't tell if trolling or just idiot...
> men go after drunk women dressed as sluts
> silly claims.
Can't tell if trolling or just idiot...
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 19 seconds later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,830
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 11 seconds later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,831
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 seconds later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,832
Word. I was wearing a cute dress today and old men were looking at my legs. Maybe they were commenting on the weather and how you know its summer when girls wear dresses but I think dressing revealingly does give off attention and sometimes, dirty thoughts or mixed signals.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,837
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,839
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 15 years ago, 22 seconds later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,840
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic triple-posted this 15 years ago, 20 seconds later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,841
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 44 seconds later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,843
Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 30 seconds later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,844
It's not that simple, but I am afraid you wouldn't understand.
Keep on living in your world of twisted mirrors and clear-cut black and white, OP.
Keep on living in your world of twisted mirrors and clear-cut black and white, OP.
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 6 seconds later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,845
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 54 seconds later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,846
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 5 seconds later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,847
@70,839 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
You have to admit, he's doing something new here. Religion has been done to death, this guy is a trail-blazer.
You have to admit, he's doing something new here. Religion has been done to death, this guy is a trail-blazer.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 49 seconds later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,848
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,851
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 27 seconds later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,853
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 7 seconds later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,854
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 34 seconds later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,855
@70,844 (Nega !34Kas0OdzM)
Also, this. It isn't a black and white case. Nor would I put the cause of rape solely because girls dress "slutty".
Also, this. It isn't a black and white case. Nor would I put the cause of rape solely because girls dress "slutty".
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 4 seconds later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,856
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,857
George Carlin !!4KU9PSdLG joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,859
They say you can't joke about something because it's not funny. Comedians run into that shit all the time. Like rape. They'll say, "You can't joke about rape. Rape's not funny." I say, "Fuck you, I think it's hilarious! How do you like that?" I can prove to you that rape is funny. Picture Porky Pig raping Daisy Duck! Well, why do you think they call him Porky?. I know what you're going to say. "Daisy was asking for it. Daisy was coming on to Porky. She was wearing tight feathers, he got a hard-on, he got horny, he lost control, and he couldn't help himself." A lot of men talk like that, like it's the woman's fault...These guys think women ought to go to prison for being cockteasers. Don't seem fair to me. Don't seem fair at all...but you can joke about it. I believe you can joke about anything. It all depends on how you construct the joke. What the exaggeration is. What the exaggeration is! Because every joke needs one exaggeration. Every joke needs one thing to be WAY out of proportion. Give you an example. Did you ever see a news story like this in the paper? Every now and then you run into a story, says, "some guy broke into a house, stole a lot of things and while he was in there, he raped an 81 year old woman." And I'm thinking to myself, "WHY??? What the fuck kind of a social life does this guy have?" I want to say, "Why did you do that?" "Well, she was coming on to me. We were dancing and I got horny. Hey, she was asking for it, she had on a tight bathrobe." I'll say, "Jesus Christ, be a little fucking selective next time will you?"
Now, speaking of rape, do you know what I wonder? I wonder is there more rape at the equator or the north pole. These are the kind of things I think about when I'm sitting home alone and the power goes out. I wonder is there more rape at the equator or the north pole. I mean per capita, I know the populations are different. Most people think it's the equator, I think it's the north pole. People think it's the equator because it's hot down there, they don't wear a lot of clothing, guys can see women's tits, they get horny and there's a lot of fucking going on. That's exactly why there's less rape at the equator. Because there's a lot of fucking going on! You can tell there's a lot of fucking at the equator, take a look at the population figures. Billions of people live near the equator. How many Eskimos do we have? Thirty? Thirty five? No one's getting laid at the north pole, it's too fucking cold! Guys say to their wives, "Hey, tonight honey, huh, tonight, huh?" "Are you crazy? The wind chill factor is three hundred below!" These guys are deprived. They're horny. They're pent up. Every now and then they bust out, they got to rape somebody. Now, the biggest problem an Eskimo rapist has: trying to get wet leather leggings off a woman who's kicking. Did you ever try to get leather pants off of someone who doesn't want to take them off? You would lose your hard-on in the process. Up at the north pole, your dick would shrivel up like a stack of dimes! That's another thing I wonder. I wonder, does a rapist have a hard-on when he leaves the house in the morning, or does he develop it during the day while he's walking around looking for somebody. These are the kind of thoughts that kept me out of the really good schools.
Now, speaking of rape, do you know what I wonder? I wonder is there more rape at the equator or the north pole. These are the kind of things I think about when I'm sitting home alone and the power goes out. I wonder is there more rape at the equator or the north pole. I mean per capita, I know the populations are different. Most people think it's the equator, I think it's the north pole. People think it's the equator because it's hot down there, they don't wear a lot of clothing, guys can see women's tits, they get horny and there's a lot of fucking going on. That's exactly why there's less rape at the equator. Because there's a lot of fucking going on! You can tell there's a lot of fucking at the equator, take a look at the population figures. Billions of people live near the equator. How many Eskimos do we have? Thirty? Thirty five? No one's getting laid at the north pole, it's too fucking cold! Guys say to their wives, "Hey, tonight honey, huh, tonight, huh?" "Are you crazy? The wind chill factor is three hundred below!" These guys are deprived. They're horny. They're pent up. Every now and then they bust out, they got to rape somebody. Now, the biggest problem an Eskimo rapist has: trying to get wet leather leggings off a woman who's kicking. Did you ever try to get leather pants off of someone who doesn't want to take them off? You would lose your hard-on in the process. Up at the north pole, your dick would shrivel up like a stack of dimes! That's another thing I wonder. I wonder, does a rapist have a hard-on when he leaves the house in the morning, or does he develop it during the day while he's walking around looking for somebody. These are the kind of thoughts that kept me out of the really good schools.
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,860
@70,851 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
I think Brainwurms is serious, unfortunately.
On the other hand, this guy's crude delivery really works.
I think Brainwurms is serious, unfortunately.
On the other hand, this guy's crude delivery really works.
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,864
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,868
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 15 years ago, 27 seconds later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,869
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,877
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 44 seconds later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,879
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 15 seconds later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,881
@70,877 (J)
Because it's shocking to hear a woman think like that. Mod confirm please.
Because it's shocking to hear a woman think like that. Mod confirm please.
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Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,883
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,884
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,885
@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
Just saying, it's not that strange. I'd say it's more of a logical perspective, if you know what I mean.
Just saying, it's not that strange. I'd say it's more of a logical perspective, if you know what I mean.
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,886
@70,881 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
That I think dressing revealingly gives off attention, etc.? It does. Do I think that's the reason women get raped? No. Could dressing revealingly be a factor to why a woman got raped? Perhaps! Who knows. Is it the womans fault? Not at all.
Mods, I own a blackberry torch. D:
That I think dressing revealingly gives off attention, etc.? It does. Do I think that's the reason women get raped? No. Could dressing revealingly be a factor to why a woman got raped? Perhaps! Who knows. Is it the womans fault? Not at all.
Mods, I own a blackberry torch. D:
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 59 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #70,889
@70,885 (G)
How is it? I would never blame a man for getting beat up or a woman for being raped. Everyone has a body, people of various sexes and ages and lifestyles are raped, and there has been no proven correlation between appearance and rape. So why is it logical?
How is it? I would never blame a man for getting beat up or a woman for being raped. Everyone has a body, people of various sexes and ages and lifestyles are raped, and there has been no proven correlation between appearance and rape. So why is it logical?
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,893
@70,886 (J)
Why does showing your body give mixed signals? If men walk around without their shirts, what signals are they giving off?
Why does showing your body give mixed signals? If men walk around without their shirts, what signals are they giving off?
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 39 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,895
ITT: Shit tier trolling
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,898
Anonymous M replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,900
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 38 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,901
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,903
Anonymous M replied with this 15 years ago, 58 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,904
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 45 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,906
Anonymous M replied with this 15 years ago, 41 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,908
@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
I'm only pulling your leg. You're not a twat, gullible, but no twat.
I'm only pulling your leg. You're not a twat, gullible, but no twat.
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,910
@70,893 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
Maybe you don't see it the way other people do. My mother always told me to "dress upon occasion" and "not to bitch when you're the center of attention because you want to flaunt your body." Its different for men than it is for women and is seen more socially acceptable for men to go shirtless. I assume if breasts were just breasts and not a "private" area it would be okay for a woman to go around walking shirtless as well.
Maybe you don't see it the way other people do. My mother always told me to "dress upon occasion" and "not to bitch when you're the center of attention because you want to flaunt your body." Its different for men than it is for women and is seen more socially acceptable for men to go shirtless. I assume if breasts were just breasts and not a "private" area it would be okay for a woman to go around walking shirtless as well.
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,914
@previous (J)
But why is it more acceptable? Also, getting raped is not bitching about getting attention. Rape is not a compliment.
But why is it more acceptable? Also, getting raped is not bitching about getting attention. Rape is not a compliment.
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Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,918
@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
Do you walk around shirtless with no bra on in public or to the beach? I know rape is not a compliment but sometimes men *think* that these woman are "easy", "asked for it", or "deserve it".
Do you walk around shirtless with no bra on in public or to the beach? I know rape is not a compliment but sometimes men *think* that these woman are "easy", "asked for it", or "deserve it".
!5qPJGR/JRI (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,919
@70,914 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
People dress up to get people to look at them. That gets attention, good and bad, and a rapist is going to see them and be more inclined to go after them. Someone who dresses inconspicuously isn't going to be blinking on the rapists radar.
People dress up to get people to look at them. That gets attention, good and bad, and a rapist is going to see them and be more inclined to go after them. Someone who dresses inconspicuously isn't going to be blinking on the rapists radar.
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totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,923
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 15 years ago, 22 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,925
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,932
!5qPJGR/JRI (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 10 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,933
@70,923 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
> Provide proof.
It's common sense that people dress up to get attention.
You are a terrible troll.
> Provide proof.
It's common sense that people dress up to get attention.
You are a terrible troll.
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 7 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,934
@70,889 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
Some would see more logic in the argument that a woman who dresses in revealing clothes in the wrong place is asking for trouble, while others would see the logic in how it was the rapists fault for doing it.
Personally I'm of the second mindset. Rapists are horrible human beings and there's no excuse for their vile practice.
Some would see more logic in the argument that a woman who dresses in revealing clothes in the wrong place is asking for trouble, while others would see the logic in how it was the rapists fault for doing it.
Personally I'm of the second mindset. Rapists are horrible human beings and there's no excuse for their vile practice.
!5qPJGR/JRI (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 34 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,935
@70,925 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
> But they don't, so it shouldn't matter how they dress.
> it shouldn't matter
I agree, it shouldn't. But it does.
Reality, and an ideal world are two different things.
> But they don't, so it shouldn't matter how they dress.
> it shouldn't matter
I agree, it shouldn't. But it does.
Reality, and an ideal world are two different things.
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 29 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,937
Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,938
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 3 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,939
!5qPJGR/JRI (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 41 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,940
@70,934 (G)
I am not saying it's an excuse for the rapist, I never said that once in this thread.
You can't be surprised you were picked to be victimized when you make yourself stand out is all.
I am not saying it's an excuse for the rapist, I never said that once in this thread.
You can't be surprised you were picked to be victimized when you make yourself stand out is all.
!5qPJGR/JRI (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,942
@70,939 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
Common sense: Scantily clad people will get a rapists attention. Breasts, butts, legs, and many other parts of the body arouse men. When these body parts are accentuated they will get a rapists attention.
Common sense: Having the rapists attention, and turning him on with your accentuation will make you a bigger target.
Just because there are no statistics about this does not make it a mystery, or untrue. There are no conclusions that need leaping to, it's all common sense.
Common sense: Scantily clad people will get a rapists attention. Breasts, butts, legs, and many other parts of the body arouse men. When these body parts are accentuated they will get a rapists attention.
Common sense: Having the rapists attention, and turning him on with your accentuation will make you a bigger target.
Just because there are no statistics about this does not make it a mystery, or untrue. There are no conclusions that need leaping to, it's all common sense.
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 10 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,943
@70,937 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
No, lol. I'm putting myself in a rapists shoes and I'd rather go for a woman with something sexy on as opposed to a woman wearing normal clothes. Considering I don't know them personally and was forced to make a choice based on physical appearance and how they presented theirselves.
No, lol. I'm putting myself in a rapists shoes and I'd rather go for a woman with something sexy on as opposed to a woman wearing normal clothes. Considering I don't know them personally and was forced to make a choice based on physical appearance and how they presented theirselves.
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,945
@70,942 (!5qPJGR/JRI)
You don't know that. So many people get raped are not scantily clad or attractive, so you can't make such a statement and just pretend that it's true.
You don't know that. So many people get raped are not scantily clad or attractive, so you can't make such a statement and just pretend that it's true.
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 15 years ago, 43 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,946
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,953
@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
Did it ever occur to you that I just might have known people that got raped, COULD HAVE GOTTEN RAPED *cough* and molested? :O!!!
Did it ever occur to you that I just might have known people that got raped, COULD HAVE GOTTEN RAPED *cough* and molested? :O!!!
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,959
@previous (J)
So do I, but that doesn't mean that we understand what rapists think. Why did you throw a cough in there?
So do I, but that doesn't mean that we understand what rapists think. Why did you throw a cough in there?
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,963
@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
Okay then. ;O
Lol one day I'll tell you the story of how I almost got raped. It's silly. Omg I just remembered, an ex saved me! :O
Okay then. ;O
Lol one day I'll tell you the story of how I almost got raped. It's silly. Omg I just remembered, an ex saved me! :O
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,964
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,967
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #70,970
@previous (J)
I see. If you ever want to share your experience feel free to email me so that it won't be all over the board, if you would like.
I see. If you ever want to share your experience feel free to email me so that it won't be all over the board, if you would like.
Tekamine !AnRbswGQv. replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #70,971
Until you've been raped, or know someone very close to you that has been raped, you cannot possibly have an opinion.
I personally think that rapist's (and I use that term as an umbrella term; Paedos, sex offenders etc) should suffer the mental torment that their victims do. Send them to the darkest parts of war, let them get PTSD and live as total shells of their former pathetic existances.
Feel free to berate my opinion but it's my opinion and I think anything contrary to this, is wrong.
I personally think that rapist's (and I use that term as an umbrella term; Paedos, sex offenders etc) should suffer the mental torment that their victims do. Send them to the darkest parts of war, let them get PTSD and live as total shells of their former pathetic existances.
Feel free to berate my opinion but it's my opinion and I think anything contrary to this, is wrong.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #70,972
@previous (Tekamine !AnRbswGQv.)
Yes, because the best way to deal with abuse is to abuse the abusers. Then we're so much better than them. Oh wait, no we're not.
Yes, because the best way to deal with abuse is to abuse the abusers. Then we're so much better than them. Oh wait, no we're not.
Tekamine !AnRbswGQv. replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #70,973
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #70,975
@previous (Tekamine !AnRbswGQv.)
So we should just give into our biological hardwiring? I don't think so. What separates humans from the rest of the animal kingdom is our ability to reason. If we give that up, we're giving up on our humanity, and I'm not willing to do that, no matter how good it might make us feel at the moment.
So we should just give into our biological hardwiring? I don't think so. What separates humans from the rest of the animal kingdom is our ability to reason. If we give that up, we're giving up on our humanity, and I'm not willing to do that, no matter how good it might make us feel at the moment.
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Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 51 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #70,979
Anonymous J double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #70,980
Tekamine !AnRbswGQv. replied with this 15 years ago, 9 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #70,981
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 1 second later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #70,982
@70,975 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
What's your stance on punishing rapists? I take it you'd advocate imprisoning them?
What's your stance on punishing rapists? I take it you'd advocate imprisoning them?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #70,985
@70,981 (Tekamine !AnRbswGQv.)
Nope.
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Imprisonment is fine as long as it's not punishment for punishment's sake, but it instead helps to reform them such that they never rape again.
Nope.
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Imprisonment is fine as long as it's not punishment for punishment's sake, but it instead helps to reform them such that they never rape again.
Tekamine !AnRbswGQv. replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #70,987
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Then I feel your liberal views on the punishment of rapists are somewhat wasted on me.
Then I feel your liberal views on the punishment of rapists are somewhat wasted on me.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #70,989
@70,985 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I'm not sure about the reforming part, it hardly ever seems to work.
They have decided to commit rape, which is terrible, so they do deserve a fitting punishment, which in the case of our legal systems would be a huge jail sentence.
I'm not sure about the reforming part, it hardly ever seems to work.
They have decided to commit rape, which is terrible, so they do deserve a fitting punishment, which in the case of our legal systems would be a huge jail sentence.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 46 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #70,990
@70,987 (Tekamine !AnRbswGQv.)
I'm sorry that you're so driven by emotion that you won't even consider an opposing viewpoint. You're not being rational, and no one is going to take you seriously until you consider this issue more objectively.
I'm sorry that you're so driven by emotion that you won't even consider an opposing viewpoint. You're not being rational, and no one is going to take you seriously until you consider this issue more objectively.
Tekamine !AnRbswGQv. replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #70,992
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Sorry, but that's my stance on the matter. Why should these 'people' get to live a normal life after prison when their actions have given a life sentence to the victim?
Sorry, but that's my stance on the matter. Why should these 'people' get to live a normal life after prison when their actions have given a life sentence to the victim?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 13 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #70,993
@70,990 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
To be fair, it'd be hard to maintain a more light-handed approach if it affected you personally, but I can see your logic.
Speaking as someone who hasn't been affected in any way, I'd still advocate harsh punishments. Rapists are not good people.
To be fair, it'd be hard to maintain a more light-handed approach if it affected you personally, but I can see your logic.
Speaking as someone who hasn't been affected in any way, I'd still advocate harsh punishments. Rapists are not good people.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #70,994
@70,989 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> I'm not sure about the reforming part, it hardly ever seems to work.
What's the recidivism rate for rapists who had undergone some reforming in prison?
> They have decided to commit rape, which is terrible,
Agreed.
> so they do deserve a fitting punishment
No. Punishment for the sake of punishment is barbaric and ineffective. Punishment should be used in order to help make society better as a whole, rather than abusing a criminal who will eventually be let back out into the public with no future and no money and contempt for the society he's re-entering.
> I'm not sure about the reforming part, it hardly ever seems to work.
What's the recidivism rate for rapists who had undergone some reforming in prison?
> They have decided to commit rape, which is terrible,
Agreed.
> so they do deserve a fitting punishment
No. Punishment for the sake of punishment is barbaric and ineffective. Punishment should be used in order to help make society better as a whole, rather than abusing a criminal who will eventually be let back out into the public with no future and no money and contempt for the society he's re-entering.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #70,995
@70,992 (Tekamine !AnRbswGQv.)
Are you just asking this question rhetorically, or would you actually consider my answer? So far it seems like you're dismissing my arguments solely on the basis that I haven't known anyone who has been raped, which is silly. My arguments stand or fall on their own merits; they don't become inherently true or false based on whether I have intimate personal knowledge of the issue.
Are you just asking this question rhetorically, or would you actually consider my answer? So far it seems like you're dismissing my arguments solely on the basis that I haven't known anyone who has been raped, which is silly. My arguments stand or fall on their own merits; they don't become inherently true or false based on whether I have intimate personal knowledge of the issue.
!!4KU9PSdLG replied with this 15 years ago, 42 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #70,997
@70,994 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
> No. Punishment for the sake of punishment is barbaric and ineffective. Punishment should be used in order to help make society better as a whole, rather than abusing a criminal who will eventually be let back out into the public with no future and no money and contempt for the society he's re-entering.
In general I'd agree with this to some extent. That 'contempt' you speak of seems to suggest that there is no reason anymore for them to not commit further crimes, and that seems to be a rather unpleasant and yet self-perpetuating problem. The problem exists though that if you don't nail the criminal to a cross, you're going to allow their original crimes to continue. It seems like society in general is hard-pressed to find some sort of middle ground.
> No. Punishment for the sake of punishment is barbaric and ineffective. Punishment should be used in order to help make society better as a whole, rather than abusing a criminal who will eventually be let back out into the public with no future and no money and contempt for the society he's re-entering.
In general I'd agree with this to some extent. That 'contempt' you speak of seems to suggest that there is no reason anymore for them to not commit further crimes, and that seems to be a rather unpleasant and yet self-perpetuating problem. The problem exists though that if you don't nail the criminal to a cross, you're going to allow their original crimes to continue. It seems like society in general is hard-pressed to find some sort of middle ground.
Tekamine !AnRbswGQv. replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #71,000
@70,995 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
To be honest, when I talk about things like this, i'm not very good at expressing myself and I'm really tired so please excuse me if I am coming across condescending. I'd never dismiss your opinion as it is your opinion. And no it wasn't a rhetorical question.
To be honest, when I talk about things like this, i'm not very good at expressing myself and I'm really tired so please excuse me if I am coming across condescending. I'd never dismiss your opinion as it is your opinion. And no it wasn't a rhetorical question.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 45 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #71,002
@70,994 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
They shouldn't get light sentences either. If they're gone easy on, a good number of them will try it again.
I'm guessing from your reply that the recidivism rate of rapists who have undergone reforming is favourable. I'll concede that some reforming can be applied, but it won't work in all cases.
Rapists who exit prison and are pissy at society have only themselves to blame. They raped, they incurred the rightful long sentence, and if they don't feel that they should try to contribute and improve and just end up commuting another crime, then that's their fault.
They shouldn't get light sentences either. If they're gone easy on, a good number of them will try it again.
I'm guessing from your reply that the recidivism rate of rapists who have undergone reforming is favourable. I'll concede that some reforming can be applied, but it won't work in all cases.
Rapists who exit prison and are pissy at society have only themselves to blame. They raped, they incurred the rightful long sentence, and if they don't feel that they should try to contribute and improve and just end up commuting another crime, then that's their fault.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 9 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #71,003
@70,997 (!!4KU9PSdLG)
> The problem exists though that if you don't nail the criminal to a cross, you're going to allow their original crimes to continue.
The punishment for rape is very severe today, and yet rape happens all the time. Giving harsh punishments in no way guarantees that people will avoid doing an action. Most rapes are not the result of rational thinking. No rapist says "I'm going to rape this girl, but I've calculated that my enjoyment of this act will outweigh the negative consequences of a long prison sentence." Rape is irrational and instinctual, so no amount of punishment will prevent it from happening.
> The problem exists though that if you don't nail the criminal to a cross, you're going to allow their original crimes to continue.
The punishment for rape is very severe today, and yet rape happens all the time. Giving harsh punishments in no way guarantees that people will avoid doing an action. Most rapes are not the result of rational thinking. No rapist says "I'm going to rape this girl, but I've calculated that my enjoyment of this act will outweigh the negative consequences of a long prison sentence." Rape is irrational and instinctual, so no amount of punishment will prevent it from happening.
!!4KU9PSdLG replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #71,007
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Indeed. Then again, most assume that they won't be caught or reprimanded for their actions anyway.
Indeed. Then again, most assume that they won't be caught or reprimanded for their actions anyway.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #71,020
@71,000 (Tekamine !AnRbswGQv.)
In that case, people who rape should be given a second chance because, contrary to your beliefs, rapists are still people, and they deserve a second chance. Yes their victims may never have a second chance, but if it's wrong for the rapist to ruin someone else's life, it's wrong for us to ruin his life. Two wrongs don't make a right.
@71,002 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> I'll concede that some reforming can be applied, but it won't work in all cases.
It certainly should be tried in all cases, but if it doesn't work, the situation gets tricker.
> Rapists who exit prison and are pissy at society have only themselves to blame
Why? What if a rapist was mistreated by society? What if he was abused at home, or received a poor education, or was raped by a priest or any number of things? None of that excuses the rape or makes it less evil, but every time someone rapes, society has failed, and we ought to own up to that fact, and stop blaming the rapist solely.
In that case, people who rape should be given a second chance because, contrary to your beliefs, rapists are still people, and they deserve a second chance. Yes their victims may never have a second chance, but if it's wrong for the rapist to ruin someone else's life, it's wrong for us to ruin his life. Two wrongs don't make a right.
@71,002 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> I'll concede that some reforming can be applied, but it won't work in all cases.
It certainly should be tried in all cases, but if it doesn't work, the situation gets tricker.
> Rapists who exit prison and are pissy at society have only themselves to blame
Why? What if a rapist was mistreated by society? What if he was abused at home, or received a poor education, or was raped by a priest or any number of things? None of that excuses the rape or makes it less evil, but every time someone rapes, society has failed, and we ought to own up to that fact, and stop blaming the rapist solely.
Tekamine !AnRbswGQv. replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #71,024
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Try telling that to a rape victim. Bet you wouldn't have the bollocks to.
Try telling that to a rape victim. Bet you wouldn't have the bollocks to.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #71,026
@previous (Tekamine !AnRbswGQv.)
I thought you said you could handle this rationally. I guess you were mistaken. You're too emotionally invested in this issue to discuss it reasonably.
I thought you said you could handle this rationally. I guess you were mistaken. You're too emotionally invested in this issue to discuss it reasonably.
Tekamine !AnRbswGQv. replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #71,030
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I'm being serious, would you ever say these views to a rape victim IRL?
I'm being serious, would you ever say these views to a rape victim IRL?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 16 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #71,031
@70,971 (Tekamine !AnRbswGQv.)
> Until you've been raped, or know someone very close to you that has been raped, you cannot possibly have an opinion.
The victim did not chose to be raped, the rapist chose the victim, so it would give someone a better picture if they were a rapist or knew one personally.
However anyone can have an opinon on anything. Chances are you are neither a Nazi or a Jew, and yet it is perfectly acceptable to have an opinion of the holocaust, isn't it? You odn't need to be involved in order to discuss something, in fact, it gives you objectivity if you weren't involved and allows you to have a less biased opinion.
> I personally think that rapist's (and I use that term as an umbrella term; Paedos, sex offenders etc) should suffer the mental torment that their victims do. Send them to the darkest parts of war, let them get PTSD and live as total shells of their former pathetic existances.
That is a completely useless scenario. It does not reverse the rape, it doesn't make anyone safer, in the end it just satisfies a blood lust. A complete waste of time, and meaningless suffering. Lock them up, don't bother going out of your way to make them happy, but don't use cruel and unusual punishment.
> Until you've been raped, or know someone very close to you that has been raped, you cannot possibly have an opinion.
The victim did not chose to be raped, the rapist chose the victim, so it would give someone a better picture if they were a rapist or knew one personally.
However anyone can have an opinon on anything. Chances are you are neither a Nazi or a Jew, and yet it is perfectly acceptable to have an opinion of the holocaust, isn't it? You odn't need to be involved in order to discuss something, in fact, it gives you objectivity if you weren't involved and allows you to have a less biased opinion.
> I personally think that rapist's (and I use that term as an umbrella term; Paedos, sex offenders etc) should suffer the mental torment that their victims do. Send them to the darkest parts of war, let them get PTSD and live as total shells of their former pathetic existances.
That is a completely useless scenario. It does not reverse the rape, it doesn't make anyone safer, in the end it just satisfies a blood lust. A complete waste of time, and meaningless suffering. Lock them up, don't bother going out of your way to make them happy, but don't use cruel and unusual punishment.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #71,032
Tekamine !AnRbswGQv. replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #71,034
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Well kudos to you, I'm sure their reaction would give you a slightly new outlook at things.
@71,031 (A)
My point was merely to envoke PTSD as that is essentially what rape victims suffer from and that was the only example I could think of that would seem appropriate.
Well kudos to you, I'm sure their reaction would give you a slightly new outlook at things.
@71,031 (A)
My point was merely to envoke PTSD as that is essentially what rape victims suffer from and that was the only example I could think of that would seem appropriate.
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #71,035
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Tekamine !AnRbswGQv. replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #71,043
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I hope that wasn't meant in a flippant way. It's not very nice mate. There's a look of lost hope you see, somethings missing when you glance in their eyes, well, in the person i'm talking about anyway.
@71,035 (O)
Wasn't on purpose.
I hope that wasn't meant in a flippant way. It's not very nice mate. There's a look of lost hope you see, somethings missing when you glance in their eyes, well, in the person i'm talking about anyway.
@71,035 (O)
Wasn't on purpose.
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Anonymous Q double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #71,049
Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 44 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #71,101
@71,034 (Tekamine !AnRbswGQv.)
> My point was merely to envoke PTSD as that is essentially what rape victims suffer from and that was the only example I could think of that would seem appropriate.
I'll restate my point: that accomplishes nothing. It's a waste of time, and no good comes of it.
> My point was merely to envoke PTSD as that is essentially what rape victims suffer from and that was the only example I could think of that would seem appropriate.
I'll restate my point: that accomplishes nothing. It's a waste of time, and no good comes of it.