FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later[^][v]#515,285
Yeah twitter is full of dumb shit.
Syntax joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 9 minutes later, 11 minutes after the original post[^][v]#515,289
LOL
Anyone foolish nuff to think major Govs cannot track Tor packets and compile is a fool nuff to end up needing lots of butt lube when in lock up.
World runs on Cisco router technology which is wot they developed for Telco packets years ago. Collating and parsing such packets is wot makes old fashioned Telco work.
Tor splits are no more advanced then old telco currently so good luck to any anon.
And if anyone thinks they are protected with a crypto key? Even Snowden nos better
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^][v]#515,291
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^][v]#515,292
@515,289 (Syntax)
This was a friend of mine, it was 2004, nobody (in the media, elsewhere) had heard of Tor yet!
It's all NSA tech anyway, so back then, yeah everyone had suspicions.
I'm surprised they didn't teach you in CS 101...
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 31 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^][v]#515,301
@previous (A)
Not NSA technology. NRL technology. Not my area of expertise. Butttttt back a few years ago AT&T sent me to schools lots of Bell lab schools located in New Jersey and Sacramento and SF San Jose schools that AT&T runs and then on to Cisco corp for their stuff.
Frankly I wanted NO part of taking those courses at the time and only took them because a company I wanted to be hired to work for directly told me I had more then they could ask for but NO telco Engineering level experience - (That person later got fired by me after I ended up hired but not because they chose not to hire me)
I spent months in study as kiddlet with the Bell System Technical journals that spell out ever detail one needs to know about Telco and Internet interface. The Onion being much the same as current Tor - Classes were just a few years b4 Tor hit the web. Later looked at it for work reasons and said oh sure sure as if any one packet can hit a Cisco router and not end up logged. Packets have so much info at beginning middle and end so as to Collate then Parse and have LookC is just not that big of a deal for computers a 3 letter US Gov agency owns PLUS all traffic does go through such entry points b4 Agency passes it through to u and me- Not just USA - You should see the installations in Canberra Au and England n n n all over Planet Earth for LookC
Snowden thought he was the 1st to reveal but books have been ritten for years b4 about Project Echelon. This shit goes back to 60's. Tor is just one more reason that such projects keep expanding using anything but servers you and I see as hardware. Its major Supercomputers and servers take up a very small part of the installation. I think if you look at Google Earth you can see the key entry points for Overseas cables right next door to AT&T or the MCI now Verizon buildings - Hint the larger buildings are NOT Telco company buildings
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#515,303
@previous (Syntax)
NSA, NRL, CIA, NASA, ARMY, ETC... What is the real difference?
NSA was the big bad scary at the time, as it is again today...
Splitting has always been considered immoral and an abusive use of public resources.
REEL REASON EVERY1 SO SCARED???
NSA planted backdoors in EVERYTHING... Maybe they didnt pioneer this tech... but they went to town with it alright!
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Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#515,307
And more specifically, the NSA encouraged the creation of an information/security climate such as what we see today... That could be seen as their real crime against humanity... Hopefully this doesn't extend for much longer... before we conquer Sol, this needs to come to an end.
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Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 21 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#515,313
@previous (A)
LOL
All I can say is - Canberra was a nice Gig for a long time. I will also say this much. Back in my days at Hughes Malibu Research Labs which still are in business - First Laser lased there - and the Ion engines that power the Direct TV Satellites I work on time to time use that technology
That 3 Letter agency could walk in doors - No appoit required - they called the meeting and said who they wanted in meetings and ran the meetings as if ALL worked directly for them.
They wood ask for a design of something never attempted b4 no matter the cost or time to develop. All it took was one of 50 engineers to stand up and say Hey I think I might no a solution butttt it could take a long time and cost my God wood it cost plus parts not on market wood have to be invented to make it work and shoot one part might take a full decade and its just one part of 10,000 required
3 letter guys wood say OK go do it - Not kidding - Money never ever allowed to get in the way. It seemed as if unlimited money was available. So just imagine the technology developed that way. No sane business wud ever run that way. Then again there was no exec oversight of any program at that time.
I have posted this b4 - Robert McNamara who had the unique middle name of "Strange" He flew in to Hughes Airport on a Jet - Secretary of Defense/Kennedy/Johnson and called a meeting and said Hey you guys my guys are loosing the war in Viet Nam cause Gooks hide in tunnels and we need to see and find and destroy such tunnels. Ya all have anything on drawing board that can see underground from the air? AND I have One Billion bucks to spend ASAP and more if needed. Bet that is a close quote - Many of us stood up and said hummmm well actually -
So we spent the One Billion plus - Got me a ride on a stripped down brand new not in service F-14 still just out as Beta models while Hughes in Culver city was till in design of the fire control and Missiles for the F-14 program. Flew breadboards wayyyyyyy to the side of Nam to lookC underground - Imaging Radar only works at a very sharp angle which is cool cause you never have to fly over the target and be a sitting duck. The sharper the Angle the more better it worked buttttt NO it never did work worth shit cause McNamara micor-managed and forced early breadboards on aircraft with testing wayyyyy over in Nam which means no real time to sort out lab work. If it appeared to work just once in lab it was put on the plane AFTER it passed the Gas test - In a hanger a bucket of gas was dropped to floor and electronics was turned on off bunch of times n if no explodes it was fit to fly
Shit does work super NOW LOL
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#515,315
@previous (Syntax)
No, Syntax, you did not work for some secret government agency. Sorry.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#515,319
Well his description is off. Firstly almost all webmail systems log in through SSL and most do all their webmail viewing through SSL too. So they wouldn't know someone is using that webmail unless they embed an IMG file in an email (something eBay and PayPal constantly do) to spy on the IP. Even then, Tor switches IPs a lot and if someone is really fearful then they can close and reopen Tor.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#515,324
Someone dedicated enough can find you, even if you are the most fearful, paranoid person alive!
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Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#515,326
@515,289 (Syntax)
Joking about prison rape isn't a toy bud, grow up and leave
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 23 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#515,328
@515,315 (E)
Hummmmm is this from perhaps the person who spend 15 years in a useless degree? One who took lots of languages but none Asian? One who is life fail re not being acceptable for PhD program. One who now has dad on the run from creditors and Feds raided his tiny silly office of years n years as he was 6 months in rears re rent for 900 sq feet for 11 business's?
One who has to low n IQ to have any idea re who I worked for or wot I did for a living and still do cept ITS NOT secret stuff except every Intel agency does use it as its ideal for agents in field but I wood have no clue if they were on the system - Also Gov owns its own Gateway which is truly unique.
Could this also be the person who lives in Metaphorical basement and only can get around on Electric Short range Hoveraround? One who ran ad for a Chinese girl and at same time posted he got a girl pregnant and was getting married? The same one who falsified his age when running the ad? The same one that tried to get granny pregnant after age of consent after she was beyond child bearing years when in full on dementia. One who eats output of anal system as turn on. The same one who asked multiple times for child porn?
Could it b?
Syntax double-posted this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#515,330
@515,319 (F)
You Miss-understood my point - Access points to head end of Net which are very limited points - Very few tier one companies are head end ISP points - They are either Co-located with US Gov equipment that Passes the traffic through their system b4 it gets to Head end OR its at all Overseas cable access points so it passes through US Gov equip b4 it moves on to Tier 1 ISP.
Why not hit Net and look up Project Echelon and then follow a system diagram for full net connect - That is the business they are in. 60 Mins TV has covered multiple times over the years and systems in therms of size continue to skyrocket in size even has technology makes stuff smaller - Only recently did Snowden disclose a system not yet covered in disclosers
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#515,334
@previous (Syntax) > mentions echelon for no reason on a site he claims to enjoy posting on > 2012
Any way. Snowden did his entire drop at once... If anything new comes out thrn he said it himself with no proof (nonebut his word), or it is included in his drops to the journalists... He has no control over the media, so he has no idea what will be published.
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#515,338
@previous (A)
Its a lot like me posting about Moot on TC - Odd how often minutes after mention of Moot - Moot shows up and not some imp but Moot with image holding up paper of todays date etc for TC
There was a time when I typed Echelon on a forum I got phone calls but that was like 5 years ago last time. For sure U could post some text and in a few minutes u wood find law at your door real fast.
Them supercomputers work wonders on key words - Of course just once might not get knocks on door - do it nuff and meet your local FBI guy - I live 5 minutes from a Field office
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#515,340
@previous (Syntax)
Like in Doctor Who, searching for 'The Doctor' online (or mentioning it certain places) turns up numerous agencies all trying to get there first so they can a moment of The Doctor's time... on EArth anyway... Other places are pretty much tired of him by now.