Topic: What you white Americans do not understand...
Anonymous A started this discussion 12 years ago #38,532
...is that you will never stop your oppression of us blacks, until it starts to hurt you too.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #514,653
Wow, you're racist!
In case you can't see the obvious: Making negative generalizations about a race is, by definition, racist.
In case you can't see the obvious: Making negative generalizations about a race is, by definition, racist.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,657
@previous (B)
Then tell me how racism feels? We have been hearing it for hundreds of years now. Maybe it's time you felt a little racism on your end.
Then tell me how racism feels? We have been hearing it for hundreds of years now. Maybe it's time you felt a little racism on your end.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,661
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 41 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,663
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,666
@514,657 (A)
Not sure if this is a troll thread or not. But, if only to throw in my two cents, I'll note that this is pretty bad reasoning. Going after a while group simply because some of said group gave your lot a hard time isn't a good thing to do. Then you're just as bad as the people who were racist towards you.
Rather, a good approach would be to debate against the racists specifically, whilst championing a message of unity regardless of race. We are, after all, all humans.
@previous (A)
Okay... This is probably a troll thread, and I feel sorta dumb for taking it seriously. Oh well.
Not sure if this is a troll thread or not. But, if only to throw in my two cents, I'll note that this is pretty bad reasoning. Going after a while group simply because some of said group gave your lot a hard time isn't a good thing to do. Then you're just as bad as the people who were racist towards you.
Rather, a good approach would be to debate against the racists specifically, whilst championing a message of unity regardless of race. We are, after all, all humans.
@previous (A)
Okay... This is probably a troll thread, and I feel sorta dumb for taking it seriously. Oh well.
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Anonymous C replied with this 12 years ago, 35 seconds later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,667
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 42 seconds later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,668
@514,666 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
But white people have proven for hundreds of years, that they do not care about facts and reason: they care mostly about power and money.
But white people have proven for hundreds of years, that they do not care about facts and reason: they care mostly about power and money.
Anonymous C replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,670
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,677
@514,657 (A)
> Then tell me how racism feels?
When the government, media, and education constantly bash your race with lies.
When laws are enacted to penalize your race in jobs, education, etc.
When hate crimes against your race are unpunished and hidden by the media who manufacturers fake hate crimes claimed by your race.
When systematic genocide against your race (e.g. Zimbabwe, South Africa) is hidden by the media.
When it's socially acceptable to attack your race while if anyone of your race bashes another, they are forced to do things like sell their nobel prize, sell their sports team, lose their job, etc.
When most of your race is racist against itself.
> We have been hearing it for hundreds of years now. Maybe it's time you felt a little racism on your end.
All of the governments of people of my race since the 1960s has advertised to people of other races, payed them for coming, payed them to stayed, and taxed it from my race with the goal of my race becoming a minority in all of our own countries. Every country.
> Then tell me how racism feels?
When the government, media, and education constantly bash your race with lies.
When laws are enacted to penalize your race in jobs, education, etc.
When hate crimes against your race are unpunished and hidden by the media who manufacturers fake hate crimes claimed by your race.
When systematic genocide against your race (e.g. Zimbabwe, South Africa) is hidden by the media.
When it's socially acceptable to attack your race while if anyone of your race bashes another, they are forced to do things like sell their nobel prize, sell their sports team, lose their job, etc.
When most of your race is racist against itself.
> We have been hearing it for hundreds of years now. Maybe it's time you felt a little racism on your end.
All of the governments of people of my race since the 1960s has advertised to people of other races, payed them for coming, payed them to stayed, and taxed it from my race with the goal of my race becoming a minority in all of our own countries. Every country.
Anonymous B double-posted this 12 years ago, 45 seconds later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,679
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,681
@514,677 (B)
Oh, give me a break with your "white plight". You still have privilege, and we blacks are oppressed.
Oh, give me a break with your "white plight". You still have privilege, and we blacks are oppressed.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 26 seconds later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,682
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,687
@514,670 (C)
> That's the Jews, silly nigger.
My experience with jews has been...
Average ordinary Jews are generaly nice. No worse than any white person, some are better.
Powerful political Jews whether they are in power in the USA, Britain, Israel, former Soviet Union, etc. are monsters.
> That's the Jews, silly nigger.
My experience with jews has been...
Average ordinary Jews are generaly nice. No worse than any white person, some are better.
Powerful political Jews whether they are in power in the USA, Britain, Israel, former Soviet Union, etc. are monsters.
Anonymous B double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,688
@514,681 (A)
> Oh, give me a break with your "white plight". You still have privilege
Go around and talk about "jewish privilege" or "east asian privilege" and see how long till the backlash gets you fired.
> and we blacks are oppressed.
You're not black, Matt.
> Oh, give me a break with your "white plight". You still have privilege
Go around and talk about "jewish privilege" or "east asian privilege" and see how long till the backlash gets you fired.
> and we blacks are oppressed.
You're not black, Matt.
Anonymous B triple-posted this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,689
@514,682 (A)
How important is cultural diversity at your school?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fonSqHNoWkQ
How important is cultural diversity at your school?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fonSqHNoWkQ
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,690
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,691
@previous (A)
And what racism have you suffered from some distant African ancestry, which is likely just Berber (white) anway.
Watch these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACKmYhlTx5k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYKUYdu6ULI
And what racism have you suffered from some distant African ancestry, which is likely just Berber (white) anway.
Watch these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACKmYhlTx5k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYKUYdu6ULI
Anonymous C replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,692
@514,690 (A)
French-Spanish-African privileged son of a bitch. How dare you talk about racism. Your people are the most oppressive and racist of all
French-Spanish-African privileged son of a bitch. How dare you talk about racism. Your people are the most oppressive and racist of all
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,694
Metæ joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,696
@previous (A)
The French and Spanish parts of you are. You add up the oppressiveness points of French and Spanish parts, then deduct the African oppression points, leaving you with your total oppression score. If you are more than half Spanish and African, you are net oppressive.
The French and Spanish parts of you are. You add up the oppressiveness points of French and Spanish parts, then deduct the African oppression points, leaving you with your total oppression score. If you are more than half Spanish and African, you are net oppressive.
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,697
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,698
@514,696 (Metæ)
So what is the point range of the Oppression Score? What are the points for each of my ethnicities? And, which ethnicity(-ies) are you?
So what is the point range of the Oppression Score? What are the points for each of my ethnicities? And, which ethnicity(-ies) are you?
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 47 seconds later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,699
@514,694 (A)
Besides Egyptians, Subsaharan Africans enslaved people too. White people didn't enslave blacks, they bought them from other blacks who enslaved their own people.
Besides Egyptians, Subsaharan Africans enslaved people too. White people didn't enslave blacks, they bought them from other blacks who enslaved their own people.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,700
@previous (B)
Nonsense. There were some black African conspirators who caught other blacks, but it was the whites who were the driving force behind the slave trade.
Nonsense. There were some black African conspirators who caught other blacks, but it was the whites who were the driving force behind the slave trade.
Metæ replied with this 12 years ago, 31 seconds later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,701
@514,698 (A)
What are your ratios? French is 35% oppressive, and Spanish is 45%. African is -100% if sub-Saharan, and -25% if North African (ie Arab). So every 10% French you are, add 3.5 points, and every 10% African you are, deduct 10 points.
What are your ratios? French is 35% oppressive, and Spanish is 45%. African is -100% if sub-Saharan, and -25% if North African (ie Arab). So every 10% French you are, add 3.5 points, and every 10% African you are, deduct 10 points.
Metæ double-posted this 12 years ago, 50 seconds later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,702
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 45 seconds later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,703
@514,698 (A)
Blacks in the white countries live better lives than anywhere else. Blacks in countries ruled by their own people (Africa, Haiti) live worse, starving, ebola, wars, AIDS rape.
Blacks in the white countries live better lives than anywhere else. Blacks in countries ruled by their own people (Africa, Haiti) live worse, starving, ebola, wars, AIDS rape.
Anonymous B double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,704
Metæ replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,706
@514,698 (A)
So say you're half French, 1/4 Spanish, and 1/4 Sub Saharan African. You add (5*3.5)+(2.5*4.5)+(2.5*-10) giving you a score of 37.5% oppressive.
So say you're half French, 1/4 Spanish, and 1/4 Sub Saharan African. You add (5*3.5)+(2.5*4.5)+(2.5*-10) giving you a score of 37.5% oppressive.
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,708
@514,701 (Metæ)
> African is -100% if sub-Saharan
They're less effective at oppressing but they try way harder.
In Haiti in 1804, blacks murdered all whites on the island and then later the mixed ones. In Germany when they felt the same way to Jews as blacks do about whites, they were reluctant to kill them, and didn't kill all of them. And when the killing took place it was a small number of them doing it. It was secret and when the majority found out, they were horrified and ashamed. Germany pays billions a year to Israel and survivors in shame. Haiti pays nothing and whenever blacks harm whites, their people are proud.
> African is -100% if sub-Saharan
They're less effective at oppressing but they try way harder.
In Haiti in 1804, blacks murdered all whites on the island and then later the mixed ones. In Germany when they felt the same way to Jews as blacks do about whites, they were reluctant to kill them, and didn't kill all of them. And when the killing took place it was a small number of them doing it. It was secret and when the majority found out, they were horrified and ashamed. Germany pays billions a year to Israel and survivors in shame. Haiti pays nothing and whenever blacks harm whites, their people are proud.
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Metæ replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,710
@previous (B)
I say -100% because all sub Saharan African countries (bar Ethiopia) have been subjugated by European colonial powers, but sub-Saharan Africa has never subjugated people outside of Africa, so -100%.
It's true, of course that the different tribes and nationalities within sub-Saharan Africa engage in warfare and genocide against each other (viz. the Rwandan Genocide, Robert Mugabe's brutal oppression of the Matabele, Darfur, the Congo Wars, etc, etc) but none of this spills outside of the continent.
I say -100% because all sub Saharan African countries (bar Ethiopia) have been subjugated by European colonial powers, but sub-Saharan Africa has never subjugated people outside of Africa, so -100%.
It's true, of course that the different tribes and nationalities within sub-Saharan Africa engage in warfare and genocide against each other (viz. the Rwandan Genocide, Robert Mugabe's brutal oppression of the Matabele, Darfur, the Congo Wars, etc, etc) but none of this spills outside of the continent.
Syntax joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,712
@514,702 (Metæ)
Given WE all originated from Africa, we all can claim we have black in us.
OP is really fucked up because he says he is French/Spanish and the French raped and pillaged most of North Africa and were a major factor in the slave trade. The Spanish raped and pillaged in inslaved much of Planet Earth. Here in my land of USA the Spanish raped and pillaged the native American Indians and turned them into slaves to build their missions.
> ..is that you will never stop your oppression of us blacks, until it starts to hurt you too.
You fully admit your part of the problem and not part of the solution.
Given WE all originated from Africa, we all can claim we have black in us.
OP is really fucked up because he says he is French/Spanish and the French raped and pillaged most of North Africa and were a major factor in the slave trade. The Spanish raped and pillaged in inslaved much of Planet Earth. Here in my land of USA the Spanish raped and pillaged the native American Indians and turned them into slaves to build their missions.
> ..is that you will never stop your oppression of us blacks, until it starts to hurt you too.
You fully admit your part of the problem and not part of the solution.
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 43 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,713
Anonymous B double-posted this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,719
Anonymous B triple-posted this 12 years ago, 19 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,733
> stop your oppression of us blacksHollywood could start by changing Captain America from a white guy into a black guy.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,735
@previous (B)
The comic books are doing that right now. Thor has also had his role taken by a woman.
Though, as is usual with comics, they'll likely revert to the status quo sooner or later.
The comic books are doing that right now. Thor has also had his role taken by a woman.
Though, as is usual with comics, they'll likely revert to the status quo sooner or later.
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,739
Interesting how I call a spade a spade and OP runs for cover given he admits his genetic roots are the cause of a great deal of misery of blacks on Planet Earth.
For accuracy since its clear OP is uneducated on such matters nor am I exactly current with the time line - So a LookC
> 1315: Louis X, king of France, publishes a decree proclaiming that "France signifies freedom" and that any slave setting foot on the French ground should be freed
Damn that does seem progressive until one looks at Algeria and Tunisia later. Then Morocco and the Islands all the Island people turned into slaves and ooooooops
> slavery is restored by Napoleon in 1802
I could go on and on about the Horrid nature of Spanish people and how they even currently are infamous for turning children in2 sex slaves but of course they share that with the Catholic Italians.
For accuracy since its clear OP is uneducated on such matters nor am I exactly current with the time line - So a LookC
> 1315: Louis X, king of France, publishes a decree proclaiming that "France signifies freedom" and that any slave setting foot on the French ground should be freed
Damn that does seem progressive until one looks at Algeria and Tunisia later. Then Morocco and the Islands all the Island people turned into slaves and ooooooops
> slavery is restored by Napoleon in 1802
I could go on and on about the Horrid nature of Spanish people and how they even currently are infamous for turning children in2 sex slaves but of course they share that with the Catholic Italians.
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,746
@previous (Syntax)
> I could go on and on about the Horrid nature of Spanish people and how they even currently are infamous for turning children in2 sex slaves but of course they share that with the Catholic Italians.
A lot of conquerers were bad to the people... all the various invaders to Great Britain, the Mongols, even the ancient Israelites.
> I could go on and on about the Horrid nature of Spanish people and how they even currently are infamous for turning children in2 sex slaves but of course they share that with the Catholic Italians.
A lot of conquerers were bad to the people... all the various invaders to Great Britain, the Mongols, even the ancient Israelites.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 25 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,751
Dead blacks.
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 20 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,755
@514,746 (B)
> A lot of conquerers were bad to the people... all the various invaders to Great Britain, the Mongols, even the ancient Israelites.
Exactly
Darwin had it rite re Animals and Humans. The only difference is the Latin terms applied. Was not that long ago we had a US President who decided a leader in Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and with a stroke of his pen 1 Trillion dollars a full decade of war and Masses of people on both sides dead dead dead and wots even worse is - the long term damage as the Arab/Muslims in hood hate USA more then ever b4 and the Stability that horrid leader Saddam as mean as cruel as he was - he kept the shit stable in his region. Now its anything but stable
Great Brits n Falklands or Gibraltar and USA and Guam or Puerto Rico - Lines drawn on maps and with Great Britain craving up North Africa along with France wot a mess they have made.
So its not just the ancients its the presents - bad bad very bad people. I still cant figure out why Britain held on to Ireland based on the way things have turned out to benefit Ireland and all England got out of that long war was still very bad feelings and lots of dead on both sides.
> A lot of conquerers were bad to the people... all the various invaders to Great Britain, the Mongols, even the ancient Israelites.
Exactly
Darwin had it rite re Animals and Humans. The only difference is the Latin terms applied. Was not that long ago we had a US President who decided a leader in Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and with a stroke of his pen 1 Trillion dollars a full decade of war and Masses of people on both sides dead dead dead and wots even worse is - the long term damage as the Arab/Muslims in hood hate USA more then ever b4 and the Stability that horrid leader Saddam as mean as cruel as he was - he kept the shit stable in his region. Now its anything but stable
Great Brits n Falklands or Gibraltar and USA and Guam or Puerto Rico - Lines drawn on maps and with Great Britain craving up North Africa along with France wot a mess they have made.
So its not just the ancients its the presents - bad bad very bad people. I still cant figure out why Britain held on to Ireland based on the way things have turned out to benefit Ireland and all England got out of that long war was still very bad feelings and lots of dead on both sides.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,757
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 43 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,786
@previous (A)
It wood be a waste of my time to rite a lengthy reply. As I can C you cannot reply back until much much much later
lol
It wood be a waste of my time to rite a lengthy reply. As I can C you cannot reply back until much much much later
lol
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,792
@514,657 (A)
> Then tell me how racism feels? We have been hearing it for hundreds of years now. Maybe it's time you felt a little racism on your end.
What about me who is not a racist? Why be racist towards me?
> Then tell me how racism feels? We have been hearing it for hundreds of years now. Maybe it's time you felt a little racism on your end.
What about me who is not a racist? Why be racist towards me?
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 31 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,795
fuck off nigger
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 44 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,797
DIE NIGGER
Anonymous I replied with this 12 years ago, 6 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,838
white people are gods just accept it, look at any artistic interpretation of deities and you'll find they all are white and european looking
Triptych !!/xkPL9myM joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 27 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,842
Metæ replied with this 12 years ago, 19 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,846
@previous (Triptych !!/xkPL9myM)
What fraction of PoC ancestry does it take to be a PoC?
Lousiana had a 1/32nd fraction to be considered legally black (or "negro", in the terminology of the day), --which as far as I know was never repealed-- (though not enforced anymore) so if this is true, Matt is legally black under Louisiana state law.
Edit nevermind it was repealed, though still in force when Matt was born.
What fraction of PoC ancestry does it take to be a PoC?
Lousiana had a 1/32nd fraction to be considered legally black (or "negro", in the terminology of the day), --which as far as I know was never repealed-- (though not enforced anymore) so if this is true, Matt is legally black under Louisiana state law.
Edit nevermind it was repealed, though still in force when Matt was born.
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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,847
@previous (Metæ)
> What fraction of PoC ancestry does it take to be a PoC?
You pretty much just need to be born in Cornwall, and have adopted the Cornish culture. We allow all to join, as long as they show the proper understanding.
> What fraction of PoC ancestry does it take to be a PoC?
You pretty much just need to be born in Cornwall, and have adopted the Cornish culture. We allow all to join, as long as they show the proper understanding.
Metæ replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,848
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Do you have to do an apprenticeship in the mines, or is it just enough to like pasties?
Do you have to do an apprenticeship in the mines, or is it just enough to like pasties?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 26 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,853
@previous (Metæ)
The ability to retrieve tin from underground is preferable, but people will generally settle for a strong appreciation of Cornish cuisine.
The ability to retrieve tin from underground is preferable, but people will generally settle for a strong appreciation of Cornish cuisine.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,870
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Metæ replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,884
@514,880 (M)
You can clearly see the black ancestry here. Notice the darker skin and afro-texture hair. There is, literally,NO WAY this is a white man. If you put him next to a white man like Ninjj, the African features are just unmistakable.
You can clearly see the black ancestry here. Notice the darker skin and afro-texture hair. There is, literally,
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Anonymous M replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,885
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 24 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,887
@previous (M)
Don't try to convince people that Matt is black. That just gives white supremacists another reason to gloat.
Don't try to convince people that Matt is black. That just gives white supremacists another reason to gloat.
Anonymous M replied with this 12 years ago, 41 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,891
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,914
@514,885 (M)
The ancient aliens guy has a bigger afro. https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Giorgio+Tsoukalos%22+hair&btnG=Search&tbm=isch&hl=en&biw=&bih=&gbv=1&safe=off
The ancient aliens guy has a bigger afro. https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Giorgio+Tsoukalos%22+hair&btnG=Search&tbm=isch&hl=en&biw=&bih=&gbv=1&safe=off