Topic: It's time to admit that Matt and I were 100% right about cops in America.
beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao started this discussion 12 years ago #38,495
Discuss.
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| Poll option | Votes | Percentage | Graph |
|---|---|---|---|
| Becky and Matt were 100% right about cops in America. I apologize. | 2 | 20% | |
| I have agreed with Becky and Matt all along. | 4 | 40% | |
| I am a ridiculous individual who wants to argue against reality. I disagree with Becky and Matt. | 2 | 20% | |
| boners | 2 | 20% |
Metæ's haunted ten myle ghost joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 22 minutes later[^] [v] #514,333
I've always been stridently anti-state and anti-police. Thanks.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 17 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,336
wat
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 8 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,337
@OP
A couple of isolated cases is not all cops.
A couple of isolated cases is not all cops.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,338
@previous (D)
A couple? What other first world country has cops killing civilians on a regular basis?
A couple? What other first world country has cops killing civilians on a regular basis?
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,339
@previous (E)
Other first world countries don't have as many black people committing so many crimes that they need to kill as often.
Other first world countries don't have as many black people committing so many crimes that they need to kill as often.
Anonymous E replied with this 12 years ago, 54 seconds later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,340
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,341
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,342
I think that your view is rather narrow and one-sided. Not to say that there aren't problems, but your posts read like you have a predjudice against cops. And that's never a good mindset to evaluate things.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,343
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Wow you are so dumb dude I swear lol
@OP
> Discuss.
Discuss how you turn a series of tragedies and widespread injustice into a personal victory? No thanks
Wow you are so dumb dude I swear lol
@OP
> Discuss.
Discuss how you turn a series of tragedies and widespread injustice into a personal victory? No thanks
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,346
@previous (G)
Wow, good argument. Are you on a debating team, or something? I know you just utterly destroyed my point, but even I can't help but be impressed by that. Such a masterful rebuttal.
Wow, good argument. Are you on a debating team, or something? I know you just utterly destroyed my point, but even I can't help but be impressed by that. Such a masterful rebuttal.
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,347
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I dont suffer fools
Prejudice against cops? You are retarded dude
Is it religions fault too? Lol
I dont suffer fools
Prejudice against cops? You are retarded dude
Is it religions fault too? Lol
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,348
@previous (G)
That is the impression I have got from her posts, yes. Negative and sweeping generalisations of police. Comparable to a prejudice. I would prefer a less one-sided outlook. I don't think that somg saying all police are thugs is the answer.
That is the impression I have got from her posts, yes. Negative and sweeping generalisations of police. Comparable to a prejudice. I would prefer a less one-sided outlook. I don't think that somg saying all police are thugs is the answer.
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,349
ISIS beheads a couple of people, admit matt and becky were right about muslims
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,350
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,351
@514,348 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Then why don't you offer an intelligent alternative?
The police force is a largely corrupt institutuon that's in need of massive reform in the states. You don't live here, just a reminder. Are all cops evil? No, nobody with half a brain is literally saying all cops are evil. What we're saying is that enough cops are corrupt for it to be a nationwide problem. It's cops, it's our justice system, and it's white people at large. Am I saying all white people are evil? No, but enough are. Are all prosecutors corrupt? No, but enough are.
Seriously go paint some toys
Then why don't you offer an intelligent alternative?
The police force is a largely corrupt institutuon that's in need of massive reform in the states. You don't live here, just a reminder. Are all cops evil? No, nobody with half a brain is literally saying all cops are evil. What we're saying is that enough cops are corrupt for it to be a nationwide problem. It's cops, it's our justice system, and it's white people at large. Am I saying all white people are evil? No, but enough are. Are all prosecutors corrupt? No, but enough are.
Seriously go paint some toys
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 11 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,352
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 42 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,353
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 59 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,354
@514,351 (G)
No one cares when blacks kill other blacks. Only when the killer is a white cop does it matter.
No one cares when blacks kill other blacks. Only when the killer is a white cop does it matter.
Anonymous E replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,355
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 12 years ago, 44 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,356
@514,353 (G)
Then why don't you offer an intelligent alternative?
The Islamic religion is a largely corrupt institutuon that's in need of massive reform in the middle east. You don't live here, just a reminder. Are all muslims evil? No, nobody with half a brain is literally saying all muslims are evil. What we're saying is that enough muslims are corrupt for it to be a worldwide problem. It's muslims, it's our islamic justice system, and it's brown people at large. Am I saying all brown people are evil? No, but enough are. Are all imams corrupt? No, but enough are.
Seriously go paint some toys
Then why don't you offer an intelligent alternative?
The Islamic religion is a largely corrupt institutuon that's in need of massive reform in the middle east. You don't live here, just a reminder. Are all muslims evil? No, nobody with half a brain is literally saying all muslims are evil. What we're saying is that enough muslims are corrupt for it to be a worldwide problem. It's muslims, it's our islamic justice system, and it's brown people at large. Am I saying all brown people are evil? No, but enough are. Are all imams corrupt? No, but enough are.
Seriously go paint some toys
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Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,357
@514,354 (D)
... Is white on white crime a problem? I've said it before and I'll say it again, intraracial violence is a false narrative.
Black people live near and around black people. Crime happens within communities. The crime in ANY community will largely be white on white, black on black, etc and that doesn't mean shit except for that crime is happening. Police killing innocent black people happens at an overwhelmingly increased rate.
and yes , Black officers are still officers
Do they make mistakes? Yeah, they're cops
Is there irony there? Yes
... Is white on white crime a problem? I've said it before and I'll say it again, intraracial violence is a false narrative.
Black people live near and around black people. Crime happens within communities. The crime in ANY community will largely be white on white, black on black, etc and that doesn't mean shit except for that crime is happening. Police killing innocent black people happens at an overwhelmingly increased rate.
and yes , Black officers are still officers
Do they make mistakes? Yeah, they're cops
Is there irony there? Yes
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Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 57 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,358
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 5 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,359
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 33 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,360
@514,351 (G)
I would agree with police reforms, actually. That would be an essential part of helping to fix these issues. All I am saying is that it is best to keep a balanced outlook on things, to not demonise the police force as a legion of thugs. Many are good people, just trying to do their jobs well. This should be kept in mind.
> white people at large
It never ceases to amaze me how you can say this. Can you not see how naive it is to so massively generalise an entire group like that, just because of skin colour? you can't just build up one group as the root of all society's problems, that's narrow-minded at best, bigoted at worst.
> Seriously go paint some toys
Can't right now, buddy. Coming to the end of an epic video game. Maybe when I'm done, though, I will take you friendly advice. Think I'll paint my Exorcist tank, next. Such a detailed and striking model.
I would agree with police reforms, actually. That would be an essential part of helping to fix these issues. All I am saying is that it is best to keep a balanced outlook on things, to not demonise the police force as a legion of thugs. Many are good people, just trying to do their jobs well. This should be kept in mind.
> white people at large
It never ceases to amaze me how you can say this. Can you not see how naive it is to so massively generalise an entire group like that, just because of skin colour? you can't just build up one group as the root of all society's problems, that's narrow-minded at best, bigoted at worst.
> Seriously go paint some toys
Can't right now, buddy. Coming to the end of an epic video game. Maybe when I'm done, though, I will take you friendly advice. Think I'll paint my Exorcist tank, next. Such a detailed and striking model.
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 28 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,361
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 21 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,362
@514,360 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Oh my god! I'm so sorry to have offended you on account of your whiteness.
Oh my god! I'm so sorry to have offended you on account of your whiteness.
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 5 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,363
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,365
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 12 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,366
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 12 years ago, 39 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,367
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 10 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,368
@514,356 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Amusing how this becomes a standard racist rant if you change some of the words around.
Ninjj, the problem with your minsdet is that you don't seem to have any problem at all with bigotry in itself, but only where it's directed. The logical conclusion of your mindset, if it became popular, would just be the current situation but reversed. There'd still be racism and discrimination, just directed differently,
Amusing how this becomes a standard racist rant if you change some of the words around.
Ninjj, the problem with your minsdet is that you don't seem to have any problem at all with bigotry in itself, but only where it's directed. The logical conclusion of your mindset, if it became popular, would just be the current situation but reversed. There'd still be racism and discrimination, just directed differently,
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Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,369
@514,360 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
You are straight up insane tho for real
Reverse racism is bullshit
You ARE the problem you ARE a nasty, nasty white person and that's not a prejudice of mine. it's experience. you say vile things and are backwards as hell. I know how you feel, and you feel wrong.
when will you go out of your way to defend someone who is actually subject to prejudice? would you ever defend someone who is a victim of an actual injustice? No, you are only concerned with keeping your white slate clean while attempting to delegitimize resistance to white supremacy
You are scum and I am done arguing with people like you
You are straight up insane tho for real
Reverse racism is bullshit
You ARE the problem you ARE a nasty, nasty white person and that's not a prejudice of mine. it's experience. you say vile things and are backwards as hell. I know how you feel, and you feel wrong.
when will you go out of your way to defend someone who is actually subject to prejudice? would you ever defend someone who is a victim of an actual injustice? No, you are only concerned with keeping your white slate clean while attempting to delegitimize resistance to white supremacy
You are scum and I am done arguing with people like you
Anonymous G double-posted this 12 years ago, 44 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,370
@514,368 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
No. I have no interest in taking up the reigns of the oppressor
Only to remove them and Move forward
No. I have no interest in taking up the reigns of the oppressor
Only to remove them and Move forward
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Anonymous G triple-posted this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,371
@514,368 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
you are only interested in maintaining a status quo
you don't understand the basic inklings of how race/racism mechanics work
you are only interested in maintaining a status quo
you don't understand the basic inklings of how race/racism mechanics work
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 21 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,373
Anonymous E replied with this 12 years ago, 12 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,374
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 40 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,375
@514,368 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
You don't know me, you don't try to understand my position, you only try to defend your precious supremacy
I try to appeal to your 'not all cops' bullshit and you call me a racist? Insanity
You don't know me, you don't try to understand my position, you only try to defend your precious supremacy
I try to appeal to your 'not all cops' bullshit and you call me a racist? Insanity
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,376
Cops are just niggers with badges.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,378
@514,369 (G)
There's not really such a thing as reverse racism, there is just racism. Discriminating against somebody on somethng as trivial as skin colour. And it's always wrong.
> when will you go out of your way to defend someone who is actually subject to prejudice?
...I do that a lot, actually. I often argue against buspuppie's transphobia, and have also argued in favour of gender equality, I also used to argue quite a bit against the typical sort of racism, but most of the racism trolls on here aren't worth bothering with. But anyway, my view is that discrimination is illogical. So I disapprove of racism against anybody, whether you social justice lot say they are labelled as "oppressed" or not.
> No, you are only concerned with keeping your white slate clean while attempting to delegitimize resistance to white supremacy
If you think that's what I'm saying, then you are deluded. I'm not thinking of myself as a white person in these debates, not do I support any notion of racial solidarity or whatever you're talking about.
But anyway, as usual, you are just going to throw a tantrum about it and go quiet. Hey, maybe it says something about the soundness of your logic that you always resort to raging rants, rather than any sort of reasoned rebuttal?
There's not really such a thing as reverse racism, there is just racism. Discriminating against somebody on somethng as trivial as skin colour. And it's always wrong.
> when will you go out of your way to defend someone who is actually subject to prejudice?
...I do that a lot, actually. I often argue against buspuppie's transphobia, and have also argued in favour of gender equality, I also used to argue quite a bit against the typical sort of racism, but most of the racism trolls on here aren't worth bothering with. But anyway, my view is that discrimination is illogical. So I disapprove of racism against anybody, whether you social justice lot say they are labelled as "oppressed" or not.
> No, you are only concerned with keeping your white slate clean while attempting to delegitimize resistance to white supremacy
If you think that's what I'm saying, then you are deluded. I'm not thinking of myself as a white person in these debates, not do I support any notion of racial solidarity or whatever you're talking about.
But anyway, as usual, you are just going to throw a tantrum about it and go quiet. Hey, maybe it says something about the soundness of your logic that you always resort to raging rants, rather than any sort of reasoned rebuttal?
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,379
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
By not thinking of yourself as a white person when you argue race, you are making a mistake
That's all I read, all I need to read
Stop talking about logic, you don't understand logic
By not thinking of yourself as a white person when you argue race, you are making a mistake
That's all I read, all I need to read
Stop talking about logic, you don't understand logic
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,380
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,381
@514,370 (G)
You wouldn't be taking up the reigns... I'm talking about what happens if you keep demonising one race as being problematic. What's always happened when people do that. Can you not imagine how that might end? What the logical conclusion of your "whites are bad" rhetoric is?
@514,371 (G)
Not really. Again, you show little u sera fandub of my position. What if like is for all discrimination to be fought against and eliminated, and for humanity to see itself in a more equal way.
But by all means, keep strawmanning me as some closet racist who is scared of other races. Apparntly you don't have the imagination to do otherwise. Everyone who disagrees with you must have bought into the insidious white propaganda, right?
@514,375 (G)
lol. I understand your position perfectly well. You think you're fighting for the oppressed. A good cause, on paper, but you've taken it too far, and think of it's an epic struggle between the "oppressor group" and the oppressed.
You wouldn't be taking up the reigns... I'm talking about what happens if you keep demonising one race as being problematic. What's always happened when people do that. Can you not imagine how that might end? What the logical conclusion of your "whites are bad" rhetoric is?
@514,371 (G)
Not really. Again, you show little u sera fandub of my position. What if like is for all discrimination to be fought against and eliminated, and for humanity to see itself in a more equal way.
But by all means, keep strawmanning me as some closet racist who is scared of other races. Apparntly you don't have the imagination to do otherwise. Everyone who disagrees with you must have bought into the insidious white propaganda, right?
@514,375 (G)
lol. I understand your position perfectly well. You think you're fighting for the oppressed. A good cause, on paper, but you've taken it too far, and think of it's an epic struggle between the "oppressor group" and the oppressed.
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,382
Killer lettuce, the professional white victim and Devils Official Advocate, everyone
Anonymous G double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,383
Anonymous G triple-posted this 12 years ago, 31 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,384
O wait I forgot he's Kolor Blind
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,385
@514,379 (G)
Yes, like you always do, just back out of the debate when I start questioning your faulty logic on discrimination. Easier than actually thinking up counter-points, right?
And don't for a second entertain that a white person, those evil devils, could for a second put their race aside to discuss these things. Clearly, race and my racial membership matter to me dearly. Fuck, you got me, man.
Yes, like you always do, just back out of the debate when I start questioning your faulty logic on discrimination. Easier than actually thinking up counter-points, right?
And don't for a second entertain that a white person, those evil devils, could for a second put their race aside to discuss these things. Clearly, race and my racial membership matter to me dearly. Fuck, you got me, man.
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,386
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,388
@514,385 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
What? I'm still here and I've never 'had a debate' with you before?
Putting race aside in a discussion about race? What?
What? I'm still here and I've never 'had a debate' with you before?
Putting race aside in a discussion about race? What?
Anonymous G double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,389
@514,385 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Oh I'm colorblind too now
What was the issue again? Oh yeah there is no race so there isn't a real issue black people just make this shit up because they are racist
Oh I'm colorblind too now
What was the issue again? Oh yeah there is no race so there isn't a real issue black people just make this shit up because they are racist
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,390
@514,388 (G)
We are all white on the internet though. Even the niggers.
Anonymous debates on the internet must put aside the race and gender of the speaker and allow the idea or opinion to act on its own merits
We are all white on the internet though. Even the niggers.
Anonymous debates on the internet must put aside the race and gender of the speaker and allow the idea or opinion to act on its own merits
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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 8 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,391
@514,383 (G)
And your posts always reflect that!
"Ugh white people are awful. Ugh, those lousy whites are such a problem"
Yes, I agree that white supremacy is bad. So is any racial supremacy. But you don't seem to grasp that. I oppose your logic in generalising a whole race, and you can only think of me as some closet white bigot. You've taken things too far, man. You can't comprehend that anyone who opposes your views might not be some sort of white supremacist.
@514,382 (G)
What devil am I advocating, hmm? Not discriminating against people? Oh, such an evil cause. And yes, I mean all people, regardless of race.
@514,384 (G)
You say that like it's a bad thing. Tell me... Do you think that skin colour matters? Because it shouldn't. The individual should be judged for their actions and personality, not their skin colour.
And your posts always reflect that!
"Ugh white people are awful. Ugh, those lousy whites are such a problem"
Yes, I agree that white supremacy is bad. So is any racial supremacy. But you don't seem to grasp that. I oppose your logic in generalising a whole race, and you can only think of me as some closet white bigot. You've taken things too far, man. You can't comprehend that anyone who opposes your views might not be some sort of white supremacist.
@514,382 (G)
What devil am I advocating, hmm? Not discriminating against people? Oh, such an evil cause. And yes, I mean all people, regardless of race.
@514,384 (G)
You say that like it's a bad thing. Tell me... Do you think that skin colour matters? Because it shouldn't. The individual should be judged for their actions and personality, not their skin colour.
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,392
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I haven't even been reading these and you keep writing novels wtf
I don't think of you as a closeted bigot, I think of you as someone who doesn't understand prejudice or race issues
I haven't even been reading these and you keep writing novels wtf
I don't think of you as a closeted bigot, I think of you as someone who doesn't understand prejudice or race issues
Anonymous G double-posted this 12 years ago, 39 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,393
@514,391 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
It does matter, kids are dropping like flies because of their skin color here
Your color blindness doesn't change that
It does matter, kids are dropping like flies because of their skin color here
Your color blindness doesn't change that
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 21 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,394
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Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 47 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,401
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 45 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,402
@514,391 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
also it's rude to call someone out on minor fallacies (like calling you dumb) in a casual discussion this isn't debate team nerd
also it's rude to call someone out on minor fallacies (like calling you dumb) in a casual discussion this isn't debate team nerd
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,404
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,406
@previous (D)
Show me where, show me how.
On what planet are those roles reversed in reality? Not this one
What did I say that was offensive to what group of people? Cops? How would it be offensive? Show me. And explain to me, please, how the reversal has any bearing in reality
Show me where, show me how.
On what planet are those roles reversed in reality? Not this one
What did I say that was offensive to what group of people? Cops? How would it be offensive? Show me. And explain to me, please, how the reversal has any bearing in reality
Anonymous G double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,407
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,408
@514,389 (G)
You're just incapable of understanding me, aren't you?
Racism against blacks is bad, and definitely happens. It must be fought against and made extinct to improve society. As well as that, similar discrimination against any race is also bad, and isn't the answer to any problems.
You're just incapable of understanding me, aren't you?
Racism against blacks is bad, and definitely happens. It must be fought against and made extinct to improve society. As well as that, similar discrimination against any race is also bad, and isn't the answer to any problems.
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 47 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,409
@514,404 (D)
because I just re read all my posts
and don't see how that applies
Reversing the words in my posts would remove them from reality and they wouldn't mean anything
because I just re read all my posts
and don't see how that applies
Reversing the words in my posts would remove them from reality and they wouldn't mean anything
Anonymous G double-posted this 12 years ago, 51 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,410
@514,408 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Nobody is discriminating against your race
I'm saying your race needs to work on itself and stop being racist
Nobody is discriminating against your race
I'm saying your race needs to work on itself and stop being racist
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 57 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,411
@514,406 (G)> Then why don't you offer an intelligent alternative?
> The Islamic religion is a largely corrupt institutuon that's in need of massive reform in the middle east. You don't live here, just a reminder. Are all muslims evil? No, nobody with half a brain is literally saying all muslims are evil. What we're saying is that enough muslims are corrupt for it to be a worldwide problem. It's muslims, it's our islamic justice system, and it's brown people at large. Am I saying all brown people are evil? No, but enough are. Are all imams corrupt? No, but enough are.
> Seriously go paint some toys
Muslims are a worldwide problem, just like cops.
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 17 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,412
@514,408 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Whites stopping being racist WOULD be the answer to a LOT of problems here
People resenting whites for being racist isn't racist
Whites stopping being racist WOULD be the answer to a LOT of problems here
People resenting whites for being racist isn't racist
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,413
@514,392 (G)
I understand them the issue very well, actually. It's not rocket science. One group develops negative stereotypes against another. In-groups and our-groups form, an us and them mentality. You don't need to be some Tumblr guru to understand how that works.
@514,394 (D)
Too hard. He's content to just strawman me as some white apologist so he can better pretend he is right.
I understand them the issue very well, actually. It's not rocket science. One group develops negative stereotypes against another. In-groups and our-groups form, an us and them mentality. You don't need to be some Tumblr guru to understand how that works.
@514,394 (D)
Too hard. He's content to just strawman me as some white apologist so he can better pretend he is right.
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,414
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 21 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,415
Anonymous G double-posted this 12 years ago, 21 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,416
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 32 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,417
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 11 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,418
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 33 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,419
@514,412 (G)
Resenting a whole race is the definition of racism. A reasoned response would be to hate specific racists, not just the race that the racist happens to belong to.
@514,410 (G)
I agree, racism from whites should be addressed, and steps can be taken to address that. But thinking badly of white people isn't good solution.
Resenting a whole race is the definition of racism. A reasoned response would be to hate specific racists, not just the race that the racist happens to belong to.
@514,410 (G)
I agree, racism from whites should be addressed, and steps can be taken to address that. But thinking badly of white people isn't good solution.
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 13 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,420
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 44 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,421
@514,413 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Look who is on your side, for a second. Anonymous D is a proud racist and he's trying to help you. Give him some thanks
Look who is on your side, for a second. Anonymous D is a proud racist and he's trying to help you. Give him some thanks
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 53 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,422
@514,418 (G)
Keep telling yourself that. It's not like I've disavowed racial membership as a good motivation for anything.
Keep telling yourself that. It's not like I've disavowed racial membership as a good motivation for anything.
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,423
@514,419 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
When did I say I resented a whole race? Show me where i said Anything inflammatory about white people? I said white people need to change. Not 'I hate white people', not anything like that
When did I say I resented a whole race? Show me where i said Anything inflammatory about white people? I said white people need to change. Not 'I hate white people', not anything like that
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 47 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,424
@514,421 (G)
I think he is just winding you up. But whether they are or not, that is utterly irrelevant. My views are my own, and just bejng on somebody's "side" on one issue doesn't mean that everybody on one "side" is the same.
I think he is just winding you up. But whether they are or not, that is utterly irrelevant. My views are my own, and just bejng on somebody's "side" on one issue doesn't mean that everybody on one "side" is the same.
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 48 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,425
@514,419 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
And when did I say that was a solution? Pretty sure I haven't offered any solutions
And when did I say that was a solution? Pretty sure I haven't offered any solutions
Anonymous G double-posted this 12 years ago, 52 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,426
@514,424 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Well, you've taken a side on the issue and it's the one that all racists take so idk take from that what you will
Well, you've taken a side on the issue and it's the one that all racists take so idk take from that what you will
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 35 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,427
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 55 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,428
@514,424 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I can ignore people like that
I can't ignore someone who calls me a racist for criticizing white oppression
I can ignore people like that
I can't ignore someone who calls me a racist for criticizing white oppression
Anonymous G double-posted this 12 years ago, 31 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,429
@514,424 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
You are taking this personally
This isn't remotely personal for me
You are taking this personally
This isn't remotely personal for me
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 10 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,430
@514,428 (G)
That is pretty racist though. I'm actually shocked that you think in such a racist way like that.
That is pretty racist though. I'm actually shocked that you think in such a racist way like that.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 6 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,431
@514,423 (G)
For a start, you've made numerous comments saying bad things about "white people" I'm general. You never really clarify if you mean any particular white people, it's just "white prople" and nothing more. And right there, you say that "white people" need to change, as if whites are some sort of hive mind. And that's typical predjudiced thinking, downplaying the diversity and individuality in a whole group, like that.
For a start, you've made numerous comments saying bad things about "white people" I'm general. You never really clarify if you mean any particular white people, it's just "white prople" and nothing more. And right there, you say that "white people" need to change, as if whites are some sort of hive mind. And that's typical predjudiced thinking, downplaying the diversity and individuality in a whole group, like that.
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,432
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
In this thread? Have i? Bullshit. How else do I denote ... Uh... White people
You have a problem with my semantic use of 'white people' alone now? Not a people, I see
I forget how precious individuality is to whites
In this thread? Have i? Bullshit. How else do I denote ... Uh... White people
You have a problem with my semantic use of 'white people' alone now? Not a people, I see
I forget how precious individuality is to whites
Anonymous G double-posted this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,433
@514,431 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
And are those things not true? Do white people not hold power? Privilege? Are they not the root of anti black and all racism? Do you not understand that prejudice and racism aren't the same thing? How else do I address that
And are those things not true? Do white people not hold power? Privilege? Are they not the root of anti black and all racism? Do you not understand that prejudice and racism aren't the same thing? How else do I address that
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 21 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,434
@514,426 (G)
No racist would take the position of "stop discrimination against blacks" or "give equal treatment to trans people", you mora. Your narrow-mindedness is really quite astounding.
@514,425 (G)
It's your response to racism against non-whites, and it isn't a good response.
@514,429 (G)
Oh don't try to make yourself look better by trying act all detached. You included plenty of personal insults.
No racist would take the position of "stop discrimination against blacks" or "give equal treatment to trans people", you mora. Your narrow-mindedness is really quite astounding.
@514,425 (G)
It's your response to racism against non-whites, and it isn't a good response.
@514,429 (G)
Oh don't try to make yourself look better by trying act all detached. You included plenty of personal insults.
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,435
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Personally I don't like you
That's as personal as this gets
And a racist would say that and then defend white people, pretend to be color blind, etc
You are a Modern Symbolic Racist
You don't need to use slurs to be a racist
Personally I don't like you
That's as personal as this gets
And a racist would say that and then defend white people, pretend to be color blind, etc
You are a Modern Symbolic Racist
You don't need to use slurs to be a racist
Metæ's haunted ten myle ghost replied with this 12 years ago, 12 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,436
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 25 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,437
@514,434 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
But did i call you a racist?
I said you don't understand race
If I called you a racist i take it back
You just don't get race
But did i call you a racist?
I said you don't understand race
If I called you a racist i take it back
You just don't get race
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,438
@514,432 (G)
You might denote them as "white racists". More accurate and still just two words. Easy enough?
@514,433 (G)
I do agree that racism is more generally against non-whites in western cultures, of course. It's a big problem that needs to be addressed. How should we address it? With a message of unity rather than more us and them stuff. Rather than talk about how terrible white people are for having so many racists, we say how we're all human, regardless of skin colour.
You might denote them as "white racists". More accurate and still just two words. Easy enough?
@514,433 (G)
I do agree that racism is more generally against non-whites in western cultures, of course. It's a big problem that needs to be addressed. How should we address it? With a message of unity rather than more us and them stuff. Rather than talk about how terrible white people are for having so many racists, we say how we're all human, regardless of skin colour.
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Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 5 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,439
@514,434 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
What do trans people have to do with you not being a racist
Sorry I didn't realize you were SO PROGReSSIVE THAT I DONT EVEN UNDErstand
What do trans people have to do with you not being a racist
Sorry I didn't realize you were SO PROGReSSIVE THAT I DONT EVEN UNDErstand
Anonymous G double-posted this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,440
@514,438 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Because ignoring race doesn't solve problems of inequality and deligitimizing disenfranchised people's identities won't either
That's why you can't leave race out of discussions about race
Resentment and anger are a natural response to systemic dehumanization and oppression
Should we not be angry? You can be angry too
I'm not saying shit about whites
This ain't about me hating whites
Why don't you understand that
Because ignoring race doesn't solve problems of inequality and deligitimizing disenfranchised people's identities won't either
That's why you can't leave race out of discussions about race
Resentment and anger are a natural response to systemic dehumanization and oppression
Should we not be angry? You can be angry too
I'm not saying shit about whites
This ain't about me hating whites
Why don't you understand that
Anonymous G triple-posted this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,441
@514,438 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
That unity bullshit doesn't work. We address it through governance and thorough upheaval of the white supremacist status quo
It's a long process
It's not just holding hands with whitey and singing kum baya
MLK tried that and look where we are now? The very same place
Your tired rhetoric of unity won't help
IT takes work and it takes thought
That unity bullshit doesn't work. We address it through governance and thorough upheaval of the white supremacist status quo
It's a long process
It's not just holding hands with whitey and singing kum baya
MLK tried that and look where we are now? The very same place
Your tired rhetoric of unity won't help
IT takes work and it takes thought
Anonymous G quadruple-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,442
@514,438 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
And so you don't accuse me of 'running away' for a third time I'll let you know that I have shit to do and am leaving
And so you don't accuse me of 'running away' for a third time I'll let you know that I have shit to do and am leaving
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,443
@514,439 (G)
I bought that up as an example of how I'm nothing like the bigots you keep trying to lump me in with. Yes, it wasn't quite relevant, but the reasoning worked.
@514,437 (G)
I "get" race, thanks. I just don't happen to share your slant on it.
@514,435 (G)
Ninjj, that's just a nonsense buzzword. I've said over and over again that I'm against discrimination of all kind, but you just can't process that.
I bought that up as an example of how I'm nothing like the bigots you keep trying to lump me in with. Yes, it wasn't quite relevant, but the reasoning worked.
@514,437 (G)
I "get" race, thanks. I just don't happen to share your slant on it.
@514,435 (G)
Ninjj, that's just a nonsense buzzword. I've said over and over again that I'm against discrimination of all kind, but you just can't process that.
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,444
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
i am processing your white tears, I can process them all just fine
They're so
Salty
i am processing your white tears, I can process them all just fine
They're so
Salty
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,445
@514,441 (G)
That's a horribly defeatist attitude. Unity doesn't work? Some guy advocated it once, it didn't change the world overnight, so it must be a failiure? Idiotic. You would keep the racial divide going, and not strive towards equality between races? Why the hell not?
A world where race didn't matter would be bloody ideal. Because, really, race doesn't matter. It's just a skin colour.
@514,440 (G)
Of course people can be angry, but them being angry doesn't make discriminating back justified or right. Why can't you see that? But you have no problem with discrimination, do you? Just as long as it's directed at particular groups.
That's a horribly defeatist attitude. Unity doesn't work? Some guy advocated it once, it didn't change the world overnight, so it must be a failiure? Idiotic. You would keep the racial divide going, and not strive towards equality between races? Why the hell not?
A world where race didn't matter would be bloody ideal. Because, really, race doesn't matter. It's just a skin colour.
@514,440 (G)
Of course people can be angry, but them being angry doesn't make discriminating back justified or right. Why can't you see that? But you have no problem with discrimination, do you? Just as long as it's directed at particular groups.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx double-posted this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,447
@514,444 (G)
Im sorry, do my white tears not satisfy you? Maybe some fine asian tears would be more to your liking?
Im sorry, do my white tears not satisfy you? Maybe some fine asian tears would be more to your liking?
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,452
@514,445 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Nobody is discriminating against whites. You are just victimizing yourself
Nobody is discriminating against whites. You are just victimizing yourself
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,453
@previous (G)
Oh for... No I'm not. I don't care about my race. I don't think of myself as "a white person", just as myself . And yes, you are discriminating against whites by making negative generalisations against them, same logic as any other racial discrimination.
Hey, just answer me one question. Do you agree, that it is wrong to discriminate against a group of people for an innate attribute that is beyond their control? Just one a direct answer to this question would be great.
Also, somehow we're over 100 posts in this topic. Oh time flies when your having a good Internet argument. Wouldn't you agree, dear friend?
Oh for... No I'm not. I don't care about my race. I don't think of myself as "a white person", just as myself . And yes, you are discriminating against whites by making negative generalisations against them, same logic as any other racial discrimination.
Hey, just answer me one question. Do you agree, that it is wrong to discriminate against a group of people for an innate attribute that is beyond their control? Just one a direct answer to this question would be great.
Also, somehow we're over 100 posts in this topic. Oh time flies when your having a good Internet argument. Wouldn't you agree, dear friend?
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Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,454
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,455
@previous (J)
...is that why ninjj hates me? Because I'm a PoC? That fucking Cornophobic bigot! Just because I'm a minority, he talks down to me.
...is that why ninjj hates me? Because I'm a PoC? That fucking Cornophobic bigot! Just because I'm a minority, he talks down to me.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx double-posted this 12 years ago, 13 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,457
Ninjj, I gotta ask, if you think that unity between races won't work, then what are you advocating instead?
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Anonymous E replied with this 12 years ago, 40 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,459
squeegee joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,464
squeegee was here
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 11 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,466
I'm still a little unsure if ninjj identifies as black like me, or white like killer lettuce. Because that puts his racist views into perspective. He looks really, really, pasty white and would have enjoyed being assumed to be white. I feel like he grew up with the privilege of being white, because his skin is white, and now wants to swap sides or something. Maybe he has a grandparent with a tan and considers himself brown, idk.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 12 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,468
Fuck Ninjj. Fuck niggers. White pride. 14/88 gas the kikes race war now. Blacks have low IQs and know only a life of crime. Hang black people from trees. Remember the 14 words. :^)
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 15 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,470
kill police
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,475
Anonymous J replied with this 12 years ago, 26 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,476
fuck