Topic: Is Zero gravity comparable to orbital free fall
Anonymous A started this discussion 12 years ago #38,468
What even is a zero gravity environment outside of orbit like
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later[^] [v] #514,076
Also earlier I smelled poop and I was like where did that come from so I cleaned my cats butt
But just now i farted and it smelled like poop
Didn't know i farted earlier
My farts usually don't smell
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But just now i farted and it smelled like poop
Didn't know i farted earlier
My farts usually don't smell
Power up power up
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,078
Also has anybody heard of like a reverse wet willy
Where you put your finger in your ear and then put it in someone's mouth
Has that been conceived of
Where you put your finger in your ear and then put it in someone's mouth
Has that been conceived of
Syntax joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,079
There is no such thing as zero gravity. Just words that someone applied to the experience of floating in space or on earth where temporary low gravity is simulated.
Orbital free fall - Huge volume of physics books cover this topic. Use search term Orbital Mechanics to look for dissertations of or perhaps a wiki on
Again its word play not physics when Zero gravity and orbital free fall are discussed or written about in text. Its even difficult for me to use Zero but since you did I will as well.
I believe Einstein used Thought experiments to explain Gravity b4 he put pen to paper. Turns out most of the math people see that is attributed to Einstein is the work of others because Einstein did not do all that well in school albeit on a scale of top mathematicians he was just shy and towards last in class. Class of course consisted of very sharp Physicists.
Orbital free fall - Huge volume of physics books cover this topic. Use search term Orbital Mechanics to look for dissertations of or perhaps a wiki on
Again its word play not physics when Zero gravity and orbital free fall are discussed or written about in text. Its even difficult for me to use Zero but since you did I will as well.
I believe Einstein used Thought experiments to explain Gravity b4 he put pen to paper. Turns out most of the math people see that is attributed to Einstein is the work of others because Einstein did not do all that well in school albeit on a scale of top mathematicians he was just shy and towards last in class. Class of course consisted of very sharp Physicists.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 20 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,082
@previous (Syntax)
Syntax is actually right here. Hank Green (Brother of John Green, author of The Fault in our Stars) explains the difference.
Syntax is actually right here. Hank Green (Brother of John Green, author of The Fault in our Stars) explains the difference.
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Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 21 minutes later, 59 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #514,084
@514,079 (Syntax)
@previous (D)
i know that 'zero gravity' is semantically incorrect im asking what the conditions would be like if you're not in orbit
But I guess this is what I get for asking Bad Nerds
@previous (D)
i know that 'zero gravity' is semantically incorrect im asking what the conditions would be like if you're not in orbit
But I guess this is what I get for asking Bad Nerds
Anonymous E double-posted this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,085
@514,079 (Syntax)
thanks for the tropey lecture and Einstein trivia tho totally never heard any of that before
thanks for the tropey lecture and Einstein trivia tho totally never heard any of that before
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,087
@514,084 (E)
@previous (E)
Yo not trying to make it difficult for you at all. So to answer your direct question
> im asking what the conditions would be like if you're not in orbit
That is a most excellent question. If you have a spare $5000 you can find out for yourself. Actually you can get a sense of it for much less money but if you want to float free like you see astronauts - then its going to be the 5K
http://www.gozerog.com/
Lots of countries have modified aircraft to study low to wot is called Zero Gravity. I have only experienced it for about 15 or so seconds on a KC-135A. I signed up on a list and waited months the first time I got a go at it. Anyone working in my dept could and many said no way. Frankly I found it weird/disorientated. Wanted it to end the first time. 2nd same but when that plane did it over and over I got sorta used to it but STILL was happy to have feets on floor! So its 15 or a few more seconds and you get to do it over n over n over - Nothing like the thrills of Roller Coasters that do put you in2 super low G's from Super High G's but of course u are strapped in.
@previous (E)
Yo not trying to make it difficult for you at all. So to answer your direct question
> im asking what the conditions would be like if you're not in orbit
That is a most excellent question. If you have a spare $5000 you can find out for yourself. Actually you can get a sense of it for much less money but if you want to float free like you see astronauts - then its going to be the 5K
http://www.gozerog.com/
Lots of countries have modified aircraft to study low to wot is called Zero Gravity. I have only experienced it for about 15 or so seconds on a KC-135A. I signed up on a list and waited months the first time I got a go at it. Anyone working in my dept could and many said no way. Frankly I found it weird/disorientated. Wanted it to end the first time. 2nd same but when that plane did it over and over I got sorta used to it but STILL was happy to have feets on floor! So its 15 or a few more seconds and you get to do it over n over n over - Nothing like the thrills of Roller Coasters that do put you in2 super low G's from Super High G's but of course u are strapped in.
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,091
@514,084 (E)
> Anonymous E joined in
> im asking what the conditions would be like if you're not in orbit
Oh, thanks for joining in and asking. Asking in the present tense? Like you just joined the thread and weren't doing it before? I think there are numerous Google and Youtube results that explain gravity and how it works.
> Anonymous E joined in
> im asking what the conditions would be like if you're not in orbit
Oh, thanks for joining in and asking. Asking in the present tense? Like you just joined the thread and weren't doing it before? I think there are numerous Google and Youtube results that explain gravity and how it works.
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,092
This is for a poster who goes by The Asshole
He was requesting that I yes Me post about my Satellites. Fact is most people have learned to change channels or turn pages or close book or open another but The Asshole is not mature nuff to do such.
So back to Gravity and orbital free fall
Consider the case of my Satellites or any Satellite. One wants the Orbit to be an Exact Something You want to know exactly where it is nor does anyone including Govs have equipment to locate them if they drift away from where they are expected to be. We all have to depend on NORAD to keep track and report back if our Satellites drift away from where we expect them to be.
So consider the following - Every planet every star every moon of every planet every Black hole - they all exert gravitational forces which directly effect small bodies in space. Moons gravity and Sun make Ocean waves for instance. Nor are any planet/starts totally round/spherical. Planets are not perfectly spherical and they all have uneven mass distribution. These fluctuations have an effect on a spacecraft's trajectory. The effects are slight but over time unless the gravitational forces are considered, one cannot expect to have Satellites maintain selves without excess fuel burn to keep them where they need b.
Nor do I do those kind of calculations. That is Orbital science stuff that only huge data basis have wot is needed and the processing in hours of Supercomputer time. The data bases of course contain static information - Our Sun when it spews out mass of gases in wot you wood call Sun Spots - That can make minor movements of Satellites. Usually the on board Gyro's and Wheels - Large spinning Momentum Wheels under microcomputer control can make the necessary corrections without the need to burn fuel. The blasts of X-rays n Nuke particles can cripple short term or end up as long term damage.
He was requesting that I yes Me post about my Satellites. Fact is most people have learned to change channels or turn pages or close book or open another but The Asshole is not mature nuff to do such.
So back to Gravity and orbital free fall
Consider the case of my Satellites or any Satellite. One wants the Orbit to be an Exact Something You want to know exactly where it is nor does anyone including Govs have equipment to locate them if they drift away from where they are expected to be. We all have to depend on NORAD to keep track and report back if our Satellites drift away from where we expect them to be.
So consider the following - Every planet every star every moon of every planet every Black hole - they all exert gravitational forces which directly effect small bodies in space. Moons gravity and Sun make Ocean waves for instance. Nor are any planet/starts totally round/spherical. Planets are not perfectly spherical and they all have uneven mass distribution. These fluctuations have an effect on a spacecraft's trajectory. The effects are slight but over time unless the gravitational forces are considered, one cannot expect to have Satellites maintain selves without excess fuel burn to keep them where they need b.
Nor do I do those kind of calculations. That is Orbital science stuff that only huge data basis have wot is needed and the processing in hours of Supercomputer time. The data bases of course contain static information - Our Sun when it spews out mass of gases in wot you wood call Sun Spots - That can make minor movements of Satellites. Usually the on board Gyro's and Wheels - Large spinning Momentum Wheels under microcomputer control can make the necessary corrections without the need to burn fuel. The blasts of X-rays n Nuke particles can cripple short term or end up as long term damage.
Syntax double-posted this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #514,093
@514,091 (D)
> I think there are numerous Google and Youtube results that explain gravity and how it works.
Sure but that wood not really answer the question directly
> im asking what the conditions would be like if you're not in orbit
You could be in a book all the way to the end of Orbit Physics and still not have a sense of in orbit vs not in orbit. Of course the only real difference is TIME
15+ seconds vs hours/days
> I think there are numerous Google and Youtube results that explain gravity and how it works.
Sure but that wood not really answer the question directly
> im asking what the conditions would be like if you're not in orbit
You could be in a book all the way to the end of Orbit Physics and still not have a sense of in orbit vs not in orbit. Of course the only real difference is TIME
15+ seconds vs hours/days
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,096
@previous (Syntax)
Actually, I am a NASA engineer, and I can tell you that you are very wrong on most of this.
Actually, I am a NASA engineer, and I can tell you that you are very wrong on most of this.
The Asshole joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 29 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,099
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Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,108
@514,084 (E)
Within our solar system you're pretty much always in orbit around something, all of the body's their gravitational pulls will still be affecting you. Now, you may be going fast enough to have reached this orbit's escape velocity so you will soon move into another orbit, or maybe even reach the escape velocity of our sun and leave our solar system. But, there is no atmosphere there. Thus I assume the difference between being in orbit and not being are minimal, except that with one you move in an ellipsis around a body, and the latter you move away from it.
Within our solar system you're pretty much always in orbit around something, all of the body's their gravitational pulls will still be affecting you. Now, you may be going fast enough to have reached this orbit's escape velocity so you will soon move into another orbit, or maybe even reach the escape velocity of our sun and leave our solar system. But, there is no atmosphere there. Thus I assume the difference between being in orbit and not being are minimal, except that with one you move in an ellipsis around a body, and the latter you move away from it.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 5 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,139
@514,091 (D)
I am op retard I don't give a fuck about UIDS
@previous (H)
that's what I thought thanks
I am op retard I don't give a fuck about UIDS
@previous (H)
that's what I thought thanks
Anonymous C replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,140
Anonymous I replied with this 12 years ago, 5 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,141
Anonymous I double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,142
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,143
@514,141 (I)
OP did
I told OP he could experience free floating. I did not pay for it as I was on salary at the time so it was a paid for experience. Really of Zero value in my daily work. In no way could I apply that experience to the work I do. My time wood have been better spent in an amusement park on roller coasters. Its a damn good thing you're not OP
OP did
I told OP he could experience free floating. I did not pay for it as I was on salary at the time so it was a paid for experience. Really of Zero value in my daily work. In no way could I apply that experience to the work I do. My time wood have been better spent in an amusement park on roller coasters. Its a damn good thing you're not OP
Syntax double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,144
@514,142 (I)
> What the fuck man you are out of control
Its more better best when orbital free fall is in control.
> What the fuck man you are out of control
Its more better best when orbital free fall is in control.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,151
@previous (Syntax)
@514,143 (Syntax)
I am the op you crazy son of a bitch
In other news the Orion craft is launching in a few days and was designed to take astronauts beyond low earth orbit
@514,143 (Syntax)
I am the op you crazy son of a bitch
In other news the Orion craft is launching in a few days and was designed to take astronauts beyond low earth orbit
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #514,169
@previous (J)
> I am the op you crazy son of a bitch
If your not brite nuff to keep id then clearly ur not brite nuff to be the OP
Yea Orion is one of two important missions that missed launch re bad weather n other glitches - the other is 1/2 around the world
"Arianespace Vol VA221
Ariane 5 ECA –DIRECTV-14/GSAT-16
Launch postponed
In keeping with the CNES/CSG safety regulations, the launch of Arianespace Flight 221 has been postponed due to unfavourable weather conditions over the launch pad in Kourou, French Guiana. Flight 221 will place into geostationary transfer orbit the DIRECTV-14 and GSAT-16 telecommunications satellites."
The GSAT Satellite is NOT a Globalstar which traditional uses GSAT as designation - It runs on Curry power for India.
> I am the op you crazy son of a bitch
If your not brite nuff to keep id then clearly ur not brite nuff to be the OP
Yea Orion is one of two important missions that missed launch re bad weather n other glitches - the other is 1/2 around the world
"Arianespace Vol VA221
Ariane 5 ECA –DIRECTV-14/GSAT-16
Launch postponed
In keeping with the CNES/CSG safety regulations, the launch of Arianespace Flight 221 has been postponed due to unfavourable weather conditions over the launch pad in Kourou, French Guiana. Flight 221 will place into geostationary transfer orbit the DIRECTV-14 and GSAT-16 telecommunications satellites."
The GSAT Satellite is NOT a Globalstar which traditional uses GSAT as designation - It runs on Curry power for India.
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@514,169 (Syntax)
Let me guess: you were somehow fucking personally involved with the fucking Orion project.
Let me guess: you were somehow fucking personally involved with the fucking Orion project.
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Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #514,323
@514,301 (M)
No not at all. Currently that is. Can be in future if I were willing to take a huge cut of hourly fee (not about 2 make that mistrake) NASA takes advantage of a USGov rule - if you cut fee for one program they expect that fee to be fee for all else. Silly Gov - Even at CNN contract correspondents negotiate unique fees for different events.
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Spot on. Belt for todays outfit is subject of decision process : Will it be a white belt for Red Tux Dress pants or White belt with White Cummerbund over? White dinner jacket or Red Tux Jacket - with Tails or Without - much depends on final weather report.
Need to end up lookin as some kind of Christmas Dancing God 2day - 2morrows outfit also depends on final weather outcome - each day has tiny chance of liquids falling from space
No not at all. Currently that is. Can be in future if I were willing to take a huge cut of hourly fee (not about 2 make that mistrake) NASA takes advantage of a USGov rule - if you cut fee for one program they expect that fee to be fee for all else. Silly Gov - Even at CNN contract correspondents negotiate unique fees for different events.
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Spot on. Belt for todays outfit is subject of decision process : Will it be a white belt for Red Tux Dress pants or White belt with White Cummerbund over? White dinner jacket or Red Tux Jacket - with Tails or Without - much depends on final weather report.
Need to end up lookin as some kind of Christmas Dancing God 2day - 2morrows outfit also depends on final weather outcome - each day has tiny chance of liquids falling from space