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lol

Did you buy that at McDonald's?

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You guys havent changed at all. Literally.

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You won't find this at McDonald's.

@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Could you, peradventure, post some more about Chinese sewers?

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The recent bust of an illegal cooking oil production facility in nearby Anning illustrates how even the oil in which food is cooked can be more dangerous to diners than the food itself.

Police officials in Anning, 30 kilometers west of Kunming, are reporting that the illegal workshop was producing digouyou (地沟油, 'gutter oil') by processing "rotten animal entrails and low-quality meat" into an oily product that after bleaching and deodorization was used to prepare dishes in Kunming restaurants.

In only two months, the facility produced nearly 50 tons of the oil for the Kunming market.

According to Chen Weiyu (陈韦宇), chief of the Langjiazhuang police station in Anning, police were tipped off regarding the existence of a suspected illegal "gutter oil" operation in a nearby mountain pass on September 16. At 8pm that night, police raided the facility, arresting several workers, Chen said.

Chen added that although the workshop's employees initially insisted that the oil they produced was to be used in animal feed, the boss of the operation, surnamed Cheng, told police that the oil was transported to illegal "refining" facilities in Kunming where bleaching and deodorization work was done before the oil was resold to local restaurants.

Five people have been arrested in Anning in connection to the case. It is not yet clear if the investigation has been extended into the Kunming-based refining facilities.

How big a problem is so-called gutter oil? A recent Xinhua article entitled "Our kitchens must be freed from gutter oil" puts it rather bluntly:

"This gutter oil, made from restaurant leftovers and collected from sewers, is widely present across the market. Some estimates put the annual figure of such oil at 2.25 mln tons. To put it another way, there is a chance you will eat gutter oil once in every 10 times you eat out in China. Among the food safety scandals plaguing China, illegal cooking oil probably affects the largest number of consumers."

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Syntax, is that you?

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Sewer oil collecting sighting in Kunming!
mike4g_air (501 posts) • 3 years ago

11 pm Nov 29th, Monday night .
We just witnessed two guys collecting sewer oil in the north part of Kunming, in a very nice part of town with restaurants.
They were equipped with a man hole sewer opener( steel rod with J end), each had a small pot at the end of a long stick.
After skimming inside the hole they dumped the contents and oil in the barrels.
The van had 8 barrels.

We were next to the van, my friend got photos.

Micro van, white, Kunming lic #0007j

This was sickening to see!!
EnglishTeacher (101 posts) • 3 years ago

That's why I've decided to not eat out. It is so disgusting to know that people would do this. They reuse the oil and use it in the 'hotpot' restaurants and places where they sell 'noodles'. Yuk!
KMYOGA (7 posts) • 3 years ago

From what I've heard, not only the Hot Pot and the noodles restaurants use this gutter oil, but almost all the restaurants here, maybe only the really expensive ones don't. I've even heard they sell it in supermarkets, reusing oil bottles from known brands.
So,I also don't eat out anymore unless it's at a foreign-owned place..
It's really sad cos I love Chinese food!
Danmairen (510 posts) • 3 years ago

Never really gave this a second thought since I figured they were just taken away for animal fodder: What about those white and blue plastic canisters that every restaurant has where they dump all the patrons' leftovers and the kitchen fry in? They get collected every evening by those tri-bikes and taken somewhere else. Are they also skimmed for reusable oil you think? I mean, if people go through the trouble of skimming sewers then it's hard to imagine all that oil is just given to the animals. Damn,, I'm kinda talking myself into never eating out again here.
EnglishTeacher (101 posts) • 3 years ago

Disgusting indeed! I never even thought about that until I came to China! Fake Designer things, fake rice, reused oil, fake medicine, etc. It's really scary. I was getting stomach pains after I would finish eating meats. My wife told me that the meat wasn't from the ones we often see on the news but I told her from now on, I will not eat any meat. Lo and behold, my stomach feels much better. Be careful where you buy your stuff. I never buy stuff from the small stores since they tend to receive these fake stuff like sodas, oil, etc.
Call of Duty (38 posts) • 3 years ago

this is pretty sick...i love YN noodles tho

what should i do...
mike4g_air (501 posts) • 3 years ago

Danmairen..

I presume they do skim the oil from the restaurant leftovers although this is still not correct it's not as bad as skimming oil from sewers.
Sewers contain many toxic chemicals including heavy metals which can accumulate in one's body, mercury, lead and the list goes on.
bosnianXCII (36 posts) • 3 years ago

i just solve this problem like i solve all my problems in china. don't think about it. 8 kuai for niu rou gei fan is just too delicious
harukimurakami (27 posts) • 3 years ago

Stay tuned on this one. My mail is that there will be a part-time home-based restaurant that will feature Chinese home style cooking on Saturday nights starting in the next few weeks. It will be by reservation only. You will be able to enjoy great and affordable Chinese food uncontaminated by sewer oil before you know it.
Marco Polo (19 posts) • 3 years ago

harukimurakami, this is an interesting phenomenon, which, as I'm sure you know, is growing fast in other cities around the world. Closed-door restaurants at people's homes, where trust levels are a lot higher can deliver high quality cuisine at an affordable level. However, I'm sure the authorities will not want small groups of people meeting behind closed doors, so I would imagine there will be action at some point soon to stop people carrying out these revolting acts.

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It is you, Syntax! Welcome back!

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Kunming confronted to the issue of recycled cooking oil
June 30, 2013
By Monique Abud

Luo, Chris. “Kunming struggling to deal with ‘gutter oil’”. South China Morning Post. 27 June 2013. http://www.scmp.com/article/1270196/kunmings-making-gutter-oil-use-comes-stall [Accessed 27 June 2013]

Kunming, the capital city of China’s Yunnan province, is having problems dealing with recycled cooking oil – often derisively referred to as “gutter oil”. City municipal officials told the Chinese media that the problems with “gutter oil” have existed for centuries.

His comments attracted widespread condemnation from internet users. Some accused city authorities of shirking their responsibilities over the issue.

The use of illegal cooking oil – recycled from waste oil – is rampant in China. And because waste oil contains harmful carcinogens and other pollutants, mainland authorities have been determined to crack down on it for years.

Kunming has a national pilot scheme which converts recycled cooking oil into bio-fuels for vehicles. But the scheme is not working very well, the media also reports [...] Read more

赵晨, 朱虹 Zhao Chen, Zhu Hong. “红头文件出台年余成摆设 “地沟油”上餐桌仍无” Hongtou wenjian chutai nian yu cheng baishe “digou you” shang canzhuo reng wu. 云南网 Yunnan wang. 2013年 6 月6 日. http://news.ynxxb.com/content/2013-6/26/N10987618934.aspx [Accessed 27 June 2013]

今年3月前后，“金菜花”和“吉象”桶装菜籽油和猪油被爆出原料涉嫌掺杂“地沟油”，地沟油的回收利用因此再成焦点。

事实上，早在去年4月，云南省政府就出台了全国首个《关于做好地沟油制生物柴油工作的指导意见》（以下简称《指导意见》），对地沟油的去向及管理早 已有规定。然而，据记者了解，《指导意见》出台至今，执行仍是空白。就昆明市而言，每天有1500吨餐厨废弃物及150吨地沟油仍处于无人监管的状态。简 而言之，已出台一年多的指导意见沦为一纸空文 [...] 更多

Scally, Patrick. “Details emerge in Yunnan’s largest-ever gutter oil case”. GoKunming. 10 April 2013. http://www.gokunming.com/en/blog/item/2949/details_emerge_in_yunnans_largest_ever_gutter_oil_case [Accessed 27 June 2013]

An ongoing Yunnan court case involving an edible oil company is growing more bizarre and disgusting as it enters its third week. What originally began as an investigation into using recycled food oil has transformed into a series of indictments over the production of thousands of tons of potentially harmful cooking oil.

Fourteen executives of Qujing-based Yunnan Fengrui Oil Company (云南丰瑞粮油有限公司) stand accused of knowingly manufacturing and distributing toxic food products. Over a ten-year period the company allegedly sold 32,000 tons of ‘cooking oil’ in Yunnan — much of it consisting of industrial and commercial waste [...] Read more

Related:

Zhou, Wenting. “Gutter oil to be used as auto fuel”. China daily. 27 May 2013. http://europe.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2013-05/27/content_16533914.htm [Accessed 27 June 2013]

wow. you guys really have not changed at all. Making the same posts every day. The predictability is comforting. Change is scary.