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Topic: What are the natural tastes?

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM started this discussion 12 years ago #38,055

I mean, there are tastes like sweet, sour, bitter, etc.

But how many are actually found in nature from plants or animals?

I'd Google this myself, but not sure what exactly to search under without getting possible advertisements.

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 39 seconds later[^] [v] #509,713

inb4 syntax copypasta

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 26 seconds later, 1 minute after the original post[^] [v] #509,714

Sweet, sour, salty, bitter, umami

Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 52 seconds later, 1 minute after the original post[^] [v] #509,715

@previous (C)
you didn't answer the question, dingus

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #509,717

@509,714 (C)
> umami
I have honestly never heard of this before.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #509,718

@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
it is a japanese loan-word.

basically it means 'savoury' but has a meaning that doesnt quite translate.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #509,719

> I'd Google this myself, but not sure what exactly to search under without getting possible advertisements.
Oh my god. And this is a problem, why? Just ignore the advertisements and refine your search, they're not the end of the fucking world.

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 15 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #509,721

Could hotness and coolness count as natural tastes?
I mean peppers are naturally hot.

Anonymous C replied with this 12 years ago, 8 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #509,724

@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)

Those are sensations.

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 14 minutes later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #509,725

Do animals share the same taste sensations as we do?

I am particularly interested in Labradors and tortoiseshell cats, here.

McWalter joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #509,726

Salty, greasy, fatty, oily, lardy, and deep fried.

Syntax joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 14 minutes later, 51 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #509,729

@previous (McWalter)
> tastes like sweet, sour, bitter, etc.
Cited Walter cause actually Oil and no this is not a slam about Kunming - Oil like say Olive oils and not only complex flavors they also add Mouth feel

A number of ingredients contribute to mouth feel. Tip a glass of classy wine and look as the Glycerin like trails - cheep box wines no such - Full body feel

Texture is a major component to taste - Recipes that use the same ingredients but are a mix of different preps so result ends up more complex upon tasting

Example take the pork I made for my Green Chile Stew fresh from freezer as last made I made2much - Pork was grilled first to bring out the sugars and the brown crispy takes extra work

Could have done the stew real fast buy just dumping raw pork into pot but with the Grill n brown n sugars one ends up with a much more complex result taste mouth feel and Mouth Orgasam

Slime - Okra can be such and the Tomatillo's as in photo are NOT green tomatoes and offer a sour and somewhat slimy nature that does disappear on cooking much like Okra and make for BODY lots of Body which makes for texture and mouth feel

Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #509,731

@previous (Syntax)

Zooooom ------------>

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #509,733

Holy fuck.

Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #509,736

@509,731 (G)
Exactly

Green Chile Stew down stairs in Kitchen needs heat up - Need to fire blast some of these to put some stew in2 which 2nite will b wrapped in Burritos
Stuffing Green pork chile stew into more Green chiles just luv my Chiles

Just got green lite from G*star for one 16oz beer with dinner

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Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #509,737

@509,729 (Syntax)
shut the fuck up about Chinese oils

Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #509,739

Should add a couple more re taste

Complexity - Go to taco bell and get a taco and its edible - cheep meat cheep cheese nor does it resemble a real taco but one can fill up on

Try a real taco with quality grilled or even Carnitas which is pork deep fried so crisp on outside and tender inside and the complex salsa like add ons - Fresh tortilla is far more better then what comes out of package - Squeeze of lime and almost impossible to explain what some call Salsas yet are really Chile which is NOT the plant Chile but is made from

Some use dried peppers and others fresh and very complex or simple ways to make that make for one hell of variations for a simple real taco - Extend that to every other dish prepared on Planet Earth

Sure I will come up with more Cathy.

Chewy on purpose like Squid or Octopus can be Chewy or not depending on cooking - Chewy can be good great but if a cheep piece of gristly meat then of course not

All that is back to texture and mouth feel

Syntax double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #509,740

@509,737 (B)
No

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Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #509,754

@previous (Syntax)

SHUT THE FUCK UP FAGGOT

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Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #509,769

hopefully all of the food and spices you eat is from nature/animals/plants
If not what the fuck have you been eating all your life gushers and soda?

Anonymous K double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #509,770

@509,739 (Syntax)
shut the fuck up old ass white dude in southern california thinks he's a goddamn taco expert stop talking about tacos

Anonymous K triple-posted this 12 years ago, 22 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #509,771

@509,739 (Syntax)
Food elitist piece of shit

Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 12 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #509,775

@509,770 (K)

Syntax double-posted this 12 years ago, 59 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #509,776

Syntax triple-posted this 12 years ago, 58 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #509,777

@509,771 (K)
What is elite about bits of meat and hot stuff in a corn tortilla?

Anonymous K replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #509,779

@previous (Syntax)
nothing about tacos it's you. you act like a goddamn authority on tacos because you live in like san Diego it's annoying

Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #509,782

@previous (K)
Mention literally ANY topic, and he will claim to be a world authority on it.

Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #509,783

@509,779 (K)
> goddamn authority on tacos
Hardly authority - the down side of living here say compared to Los Angeles

In LA lots of Russian and Cuban and a world of world cuisine. San Diego is more about lay'd back beach existance with border food everywhere
A few nice places to eat but NOTHING like LA or San Francisco or NEW YORK CITY - NOT much French here and a good Bouillabaisse is near impossible to get eating out so I end up spending hours n hours for wot should be a simple fish stew

Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 11 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #509,789

@previous (Syntax)
How do you DECIDE which WORDS to capitalyze?

Anonymous K replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #509,791

@509,783 (Syntax)
@previous (B)
This

@509,783 (Syntax)
i live in the bay so it's not hard to find a good taco

squeegee joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #509,810

twang is a taste. everyone always forgets twang.

Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 39 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #509,817

@509,789 (B)
@509,789 (B)

> How do you DECIDE which WORDS to capitalyze?

Hell if I have a clue its so random YOU NO

@509,791 (K)
If you mean literal?
Photo of Fish Tacos wood be soggy taco shells but no need added salt

@previous (squeegee)

> twang is a taste. everyone always forgets twang.

@509,789 (B)
OK wot is Twang?

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #509,837

Syntax, when you were in my town; did you ever try Baja Taco?
They are a local business and I think they might pretty darn good cheap tacos.

Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 12 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #509,839

@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
It has been years now since last time - About 6 years ago mates I work with at Qualcomm took a special outfitted company van loaded with stuff to test Satellites and drove up the 15 from here to Vegas

Stopped in your town of course for lunch along the way. No memories of where we ate. Up until recently Qualcomm had a product called Omnitracs which was first product of the company - they just sold it off - in Vegas Q has a remote facility to operate the GEO Satellite dedicated to Ominitracs - Mostly used to keep track of big trucks across the planet. Had a friend who worked as Exec for electronics company in San Fernando valley and he chose to live where you live which can you believe meant driving all that way twice a day YIKES

Remote in Vegas just in case Earthquake takes out primary site

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Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #509,851

@previous (Syntax)
"Mouthfeel" etc. are not "tastes". They are "sensations".

Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #509,886

@previous (N)
Try this and its the very first attempt using Google to do this so its on top as #1 return for the question
Google:tastes like sweet, sour, bitter, etc.

Comes up in very simple detail and they add the Umami - 5 senses
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Sensory_Systems/Gustatory_System

Now when you are on that page - let me do it for you

Signal Processing

In humans, the sense of taste is transmitted to the brain via three cranial nerves. The VII facial nerve carries information from the anterior 2/3 part of the tongue and soft palate. The IX nerve or glossopharyngeal nerve carries taste sensations from the posterior 1/3 part of the tongue and the X nerve or vagus nerve carries information from the back of the oral cavity and the epiglottis.

The gustatory cortex is the brain structure responsible for the perception of taste. It consists of the anterior insula on the insular lobe and the frontal operculum on the inferior frontal gyrus of the frontal lobe. Neurons in the gustatory cortex respond to the five main tastes.

Taste cells synapse with primary sensory axons of the mentioned cranial nerves. The central axons of these neurons in the respective cranial nerve ganglia project to rostral and lateral regions of the nucleus of the solitary tract in the medulla. Axons from the rostral (gustatory) part of the solitary nucleus project to the ventral posterior complex of the thalamus, where they terminate in the medial half of the ventral posterior medial nucleus. This nucleus projects to several regions of the neocortex, which include the gustatory cortex.

Gustatory cortex neurons exhibit complex responses to changes in concentration of tastant. For one tastant, the same neuron might increase its firing and for an other tastant, it may only respond to an intermediate concentration.

Taste and Other Senses

In general the Gustatory Systems does not work alone.

While eating, consistency and texture are sensed by the mechanoreceptors from the somatosensory system. The sense of taste is also correlated with the olfactory system because if we lack the sense of smell it makes it difficult to distinguish the flavor.
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