Topic: Vocalon, where does "the government" get its money?
Anonymous A started this discussion 12 years ago #37,839
Where?
vocalon !74TdoRkjCc joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #507,508
Where do you get your money? $467.30, to be exact.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #507,510
@previous (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
I work for it. Now, please answer: where does "the government" get its money?
I work for it. Now, please answer: where does "the government" get its money?
vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #507,513
@previous (A)
Wow, it's almost as "work" is an arbitrary term.
Because I don't think asking people for money and never paying it back constitutes work.
Wow, it's almost as "work" is an arbitrary term.
Because I don't think asking people for money and never paying it back constitutes work.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 38 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #507,530
vocalon doesn't have an answer to the question. He's just as fucking stupid as syntax.
vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 12 years ago, 34 seconds later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #507,531
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 8 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #507,535
A mixture of debt-servicing and hyperinflationary money-supply injection. Any prole or even middle-class worker is deluding themselves if they regard themselves 'contributors.'
Meta joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #507,543
There are three, and only three ways government can get money: taxation (i.e. forcible confiscation), borrowing (an IOU on future confiscation) or printing (devaluation of presently existing money). You'll see, if you work this out logically that the government cannot create wealth but only transfer it, like a casino.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #507,548
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 27 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #507,560
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #507,561
Meta replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #507,562
@previous (H)
LOL
@507,560 (G)
Oil resources the government has confiscated, and/or forcible confiscation of private oil revenues.
LOL
@507,560 (G)
Oil resources the government has confiscated, and/or forcible confiscation of private oil revenues.
Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 13 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #507,564
Anonymous G double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #507,565
@507,562 (Meta)
uh, are you dumb? Its the Norwegian government that funded and worked to get that oil rig there.
> and/or forcible confiscation of private oil revenues
so obvious that you have no clue about what you speak.
uh, are you dumb? Its the Norwegian government that funded and worked to get that oil rig there.
> and/or forcible confiscation of private oil revenues
so obvious that you have no clue about what you speak.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #507,567
@507,562 (Meta)
The government is the acting hand of the people's will. The people cannot confiscate from themselves.
The government is the acting hand of the people's will. The people cannot confiscate from themselves.
Meta replied with this 12 years ago, 14 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #507,568
@507,565 (G)
Okay, so where did the government get the funds for it?
@previous (I)
Legal ≠ moral. Thanks.
Okay, so where did the government get the funds for it?
@previous (I)
Legal ≠ moral. Thanks.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 30 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #507,574
@previous (Meta)
That is a good point. But still, isn't Norway supposed to be a very good country to live in? If i remember correctly, the oil money is said to have played its part. Big time. Which is strange because i have also heard that they have not spent any of that money.
That is a good point. But still, isn't Norway supposed to be a very good country to live in? If i remember correctly, the oil money is said to have played its part. Big time. Which is strange because i have also heard that they have not spent any of that money.
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #507,577
@previous (J)
Their oil money is channeled into a fund to hedge future social welfare expense expansions; at this point, the returns from interest alone is more than paying for its current welfare expenses and as such, continues to grow.
So at this point, though it initially does require one of Meta's three options to be implemented, a fourth option has been created; living off the interest of previous exhausted physical wealth, which requires no further confiscation thereafter.
Their oil money is channeled into a fund to hedge future social welfare expense expansions; at this point, the returns from interest alone is more than paying for its current welfare expenses and as such, continues to grow.
So at this point, though it initially does require one of Meta's three options to be implemented, a fourth option has been created; living off the interest of previous exhausted physical wealth, which requires no further confiscation thereafter.
(Edited 2 minutes later.)
Anonymous I replied with this 12 years ago, 4 days later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #508,728
@507,568 (Meta)
What you consider moral is not an absolute universal moral and I've been to many Nordic countries and the people there like the fact they have high taxes to support such wonderful societies. Thanks.
What you consider moral is not an absolute universal moral and I've been to many Nordic countries and the people there like the fact they have high taxes to support such wonderful societies. Thanks.
Syntax joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 16 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #508,730
@507,543 (Meta)I disagree re the three ways. I say its just 2 ways
3 ways: taxation, printing, and/or borrowing, is a fallacy
10 myle truth is, borrowing is only detour from the only 2 ways Government actually raises money: taxation and/or printing. Unless government is going to default on borrowed funds, it still must pay back by taxation and/or printing. Like it pays for everything else. Of course Gov could and does all to often BORROWS more money to pay back the ORIGINAL BORROWED funds gRrrR!
HowSomEver, unless it is going to completely default on any and/or/all/ of its borrowed cold hard cash:
The only way government raises money is through taxation and/or printing.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 5 hours later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #508,779
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #508,787
@previous (L)
Agree the concept of Satellites up... that stay up 10 miles up is totally credulousness.
Its generally agreed that anything at or below 99 miles will experience very rapid orbital decay and come crashing down on someones haid or Ocean a Blue2
Its a tug of war between escape velocity and atmosphere/gravity drag. I think the 10 myle is a fatfuck meme or it could be Meta meme?
Agree the concept of Satellites up... that stay up 10 miles up is totally credulousness.
Its generally agreed that anything at or below 99 miles will experience very rapid orbital decay and come crashing down on someones haid or Ocean a Blue2
Its a tug of war between escape velocity and atmosphere/gravity drag. I think the 10 myle is a fatfuck meme or it could be Meta meme?
(Edited 23 seconds later.)