Topic: ~★:.Okay, Matt – you've asked for it, Poop-proof™ You are what you Eat.:★~
Syntax started this discussion 12 years ago#37,810
Readers digest version for those who fear tl:dr
Okay, Matt – you've asked for it and now you've got it. Presented below, in unexpurgated form, is the Poop-proof™
Compiled by Syntax, with editing services provided by The Promethean Corporation.
Starting with the bottom line first – Matt posted all of this logged in: Anonymous posting is not possible at GoKunming. This is where he first mentions that he has no issues with eating sewer oil which – as we will see later in this document – is an unsanitary product loaded with fecal matter, with the most unsavory origins imaginable.
Now for some preliminary info – only a few of the 250,000 manufactures of this oil attempt to filter it at all. Most is put in huge drums or large cans for restaurant use and it does come out brown in color. Links are only for your quick reference and amusement.
***mmkunmingteacher (561 posts) • 5 months ago
Peter99, fair enough. I just personally want to experience everything I can about China while I am here.
And if that means that I occasionally will unknowingly eat filtered, re-used oil, then so be it. It is worth it to me.
Again, that is just my opinion.
Author comment: ‘’The Sewage oil is never filtered. The Oil floats to the surface of the sewage, and is scooped off with a hand ladle.
Syntax (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later[^][v]#507,224
Matt you argue the Poop Oil scandal has been shut down: Poop in food in China a Cultural Necessity
mmkunmingteacher (561 posts) • 5 months ago
Matt tells Member: @Magnifico, there have been gutter oil scandals, and the authorities have shut them down. In like manner, there have been scandals in Paris about using recycled cooking oil.
Author: ‘’Of course, I could not find any info on this alleged Parisian sewer oil incident, except for one:
Corruption around the UN oil-for-food programme in Iraq..... Google comes up with nothing on Parisian re-cycled oil for human consumption.
Next, let’s examine his statement: “[if I] unknowingly eat filtered, re-used oil, then so be it.”
One of many photos of the sewage vat cooking oil is removed from
The more established Western expats for the most part do not eat in Kunming restaurants because:
Sometimes you're better off drinking from a restaurant toilet than its carbonated drinks.
‘’’Ice cubes served in soft drinks can be dirtier than toilet water,’’’ an investigation by China's national television revealed on Monday.
A statement released by the Hainan provincial agriculture department on Monday said bacterial counts 13 times higher than toilet water and 18 times higher than the national standard, is the average after testing Kunming restaurants. The next phase of testing will include water used in food preparation.
Author note: Rinsing hands after washing in contaminated water and washing vegetables in contaminated water is another reason so many outsiders become ill. ‘’Imagine taking a shower in water with more bacterial then in your toilet’’
Li Jiheng (李纪恒) governor of Yunnan, apologizes for the report.
ebobbinator
Finally, truth be told, if you stay in Kunming long enough, you no longer consider diarrhea to be an illness, just another part of eating out.
I have been sicker here from the food than any other city in China. I'm looking to get out of this town as soon as possible.
tigertiger
After a nasty bout of food poisoning, I am a little fearful of going out to eat at local establishments again.
Dazzer
I do not eat in Kunming restaurants Why? Because I don't like playing Russian roulette in my pants when I fart.
zhulaoye
[border]Diarrhea after eating is often a crap shoot
And, dear reader. this is where I get bogged down in word salad because for scientific technical presentations, it’s all about supporting documentation.
I was surprised by this – and first, you need to know that Chinese food, Yunnan style differs from the rest of China by the huge amount of oil they cook and fry with as well as huge amounts of chile added, to basically dull food. Cooking oil thus ends up as the single most expensive ingredient a restaurant uses. http://www.haohaoreport.com/china-news/have-you-had-your-gutter-oil-today-a-32000-ton-food-scandal-hits-yunnan
Have you had your gutter oil today? A 32,000-ton food scandal hits Yunnan
Chinese police have investigated 1.3 million cases of gutter oil production in 250,000 illegal factories over the last 18 months/
So, readers, is this a brand new problem? Enterprising Chinese restaurateurs trying to save every last yuan? This is the shocker – It has been culturally acceptable forever. http://urbachina.hypotheses.org/5586
Kunming confronted to the issue of recycled cooking oil
Kunming, the capital city of China’s Yunnan province, is having problems dealing with recycled cooking oil – often derisively referred to as “gutter oil”. [h}City municipal officials told the
Chinese media that the problems with “gutter oil” have existed for centuries.[/h}
One official, Xi Qingyang, said they dated back to the time of China’s Qing Dynasty (1644 to 1912).
'''The problem of ‘gutter oil’ has been around since the Qing Dynasty, And all of a sudden we have been ordered to regulate it,’’ Xi said. “This can not be done, he told Yunnan Information Daily.
“The use of illegal cooking oil - recycled from waste oil - is rampant in China. And because waste oil contains harmful carcinogens and other pollutants, mainland authorities have been determined to crack down on it for years.”
Thought you all might enjoy this as well – just one of many jabs by fellow expats at Matt. All found on gokunming.com
@mmkunmingteacher (Matt Miller) You are the most tiresome poster on this site and possibly the entire internet. You are incapable of reading and understanding what others post.
Defining us that disagree with your opinions as miserable, simply define you that way!
"'Another expat says "You're a dingbat. “You’re so absurd that it's pointless engaging in conversation with you.''
Now, finally some background as to how this subject came up on GoKunming:
Expats on GoKunming created a topic about a new McDonalds opening up. Most expats were thrilled at the opportunity to experience a clean, healthy, familiar taste of home. Matthew, of course, was displeased. Having been forced out of his home country with tax liens and bad debt, he has a visceral sour grapes reaction to anything that reminds him of his native land. Matthew wanted to know why anyone would eat at McDonald’s or KFC when “Chinese food is the world’s most exciting – variety and the best”, to which expats countered with firsthand experience of Chinese restaurant food making them sick.
http://www.gokunming.com/en/forums/thread/9766/import_foods_expanded_in_c4_nan_ya?page=6 Matt argues.” If we are in China, we should live like the Chinese. And Matt tells BillD (a much respected member of the forum and food writer with a blog):
mmkunmingteacher • 5 months ago @BillDan, moreover, this "gutter oil" stuff that everyone keeps insisting is used at every restaurant, is malarchy. There have been a couple of scandals about restaurants using recycled oil (which Western restaurants do too, by the way).
But these have been scandals — the authorities bust them and shut them down I see bottled, packaged oil being delivered to restaurants all the time.
To seriously make the argument that all local restaurants use human feces to cook in, is just silly, foreign, paranoid propaganda.
How some foreigners aren't too scared to even leave their apartments in the morning, boggles my mind.
Authors note: Ironic and hilarious because he appears afraid to leave his place on Friday and Saturday and Sunday evenings. Add Monday through Thursday evenings.
Yet below you will see this is as in Matt's words: “malarchy.” A Master of Arts in languages and yet he cannot spell malarkey correctly!
Yesterday I paid for some meat dish and I could smell how bad it was and it was 25 yuan. I just left it-
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beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 28 seconds later, 8 minutes after the original post[^][v]#507,228
Okay, so I read like two lines in, and it's basically him just using/eating low-grade cooking oils? Is that it? There's a possibility there's fecal matter in it, because lolchina, but your entire Matt-eating-shit thing is... this?
Dreamworks !jdTkvovFCQ joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 8 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^][v]#507,234
yes i am extremely disappointed and it was not worth the amount of star symbols that it had.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^][v]#507,242
It was also not worth the 5 months of research stalking kunming forums
Syntax (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^][v]#507,244
@507,228 (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao) > There's a possibility there's fecal matter in it, because lolchina, but your entire Matt-eating-shit thing is... this?
Two lines in does not give you the numbers as found outside tl;dr - the total amount of sewage oil produced exceeds all Men Women Children who could consume just feces oil. With plenty left over for export EXCEPT all the other cities in China make there own because the Gov official says - ITS always been done that way for Centuries for instance under the sieve is the cooking oil separated from raw turds
Syntax (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^][v]#507,246
@507,234 (Dreamworks !jdTkvovFCQ)
'''Have you had your gutter oil today? A 32,000-ton food scandal hits Yunnan
Chinese police have investigated 1.3 million cases of gutter oil production in 250,000 illegal factories over the last 18 months/'''
Less than 10 factories shut down of the 250,000 so this is how it works every day of the week
Hands are washed - showers maybe taken in soap and water - then one rinses off in water that has more bacterial of fecal content then the toilets in China - That actually makes no sense to me but those are the lab tests so go figure
Then most food if not all food is cooked in the fecal oil which is the reason most expats cannot stomach the food without serious sickness
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 27 seconds later, 31 minutes after the original post[^][v]#507,248
Typical Syntax crap. Nothing new whatever. Everyone knows when Matt refers to scat eating he is talking about eating fresh shit straight from the bowel. Syntax you are a cheap fraud. No better than Matt himself.
Syntax (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 33 minutes after the original post[^][v]#507,249
@507,242 (D)
LOL I only skim gokunming and have yet to read the one post I wanted to read re my question - Why do people move to a 5th tier city that is not on any list on web as a city that one should visit.
Why are they there when there are lots of alternatives?
Syntax (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 34 minutes after the original post[^][v]#507,250
@507,248 (E)
HEY I can only lay out the facts. If they are not good enough for you so be it. Its not for me to change your mind. And I do offer my Reading 101 course where it teaches you how to skip pages or not even open a book.
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 3 seconds later, 35 minutes after the original post[^][v]#507,251
> that is not on any list on web as a city that one should visit.
Nice reasoning, you weird obsessed shit stalker
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[^][v]#507,252
yawn
Anonymous E replied with this 12 years ago, 57 seconds later, 38 minutes after the original post[^][v]#507,253
@507,250 (Syntax)
You have proven nothing and told us nothing we didn't already know - a complete waste of space.
Syntax (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 39 minutes after the original post[^][v]#507,254
Shit stalker? Matt being of no choice -Wait he has a choice - He can chose to not eat Street food or chose to eat lots of Street food and increase his feces input
Other expats pointed out the Sewage problem and said THEY no eat shit - Matt says he is happy to eat shit if shit is there to eat - Except of course he seems to have no clue its culturally acceptable to eat shit in oil and has been for ages. He even said it was made up those in2 Propaganda cept the Gov says otherwise
Chinese media that the problems with “gutter oil” have existed for centuries.[/h}
One official, Xi Qingyang, said they dated back to the time of China’s Qing Dynasty (1644 to 1912).
'''The problem of ‘gutter oil’ has been around since the Qing Dynasty,
And all of a sudden we have been ordered to regulate it,’’ Xi said. “This can not be done, he told Yunnan Information Daily.
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Anonymous E replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 46 minutes after the original post[^][v]#507,255
@previous (Syntax)
Please don't keep repeating your non argument - He does not eat scat, at worst he ingests bacterial waste which comes from many sources in the gutter. You attempt to convince us he is eating raw faeces. I call bullshit.
Syntax (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^][v]#507,257
@previous (E)
He eats more then just his own turd products- Rat droppings Cat Dogs fleas cockroaches - any vermin about end up in sewage and you can see the deluxe filtering
Bacteria + Virus + Carcinogens added - Vat a deal
80,000 years of Civilization as shown in Photo here LOL
Anonymous E replied with this 12 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#507,260
@previous (Syntax)
But it is not scat eating in the sexual sense which you assured us you would prove. You haven't and you can't..
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#507,262
• Matt claims he doesn't eat feces.
• Matt always lies.
• Therefore, Matt eats feces.
There, done. I proved that Matt eats poop. Deal with it.
Anonymous E replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#507,264
@previous (G)
That is at least better logic than Syntax's long-winded spiel.
Anonymous F replied with this 12 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#507,265
Syntax (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#507,266
@507,260 (E)
Proof re sexual sense? Yea I get your well made point and its valid and stands on its own- Except for one thing - Matt for 20+ years has a Sexual history with scat as published on the web - Do a fast few weeks/months/year review of this for instance http://www.scatchan.net/mod_log
99.9% of the Sex scat is by one poster. So NO I doubt Matt gets a woody if he thinks he is eating feces - On the other hand based on years of observing and the number of tymes he said he did, perhaps he really does- Does not matter because he dare not try that here anymore LOL nor does TC stand for it - Bobby6sucks on the other hand appears to live with it as that weee child must obey his parent.
Parent n this comment is safe as tl;dr no one will C - Just talked to his parent in fact and wot a laff that was nor do I dare say more. Learned a lesson about talking to weeee child's parent 2day
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#507,267
http://www.scatchan.net/topic/37561 > No it is not. That wood make it to easy and he could argue all year long the food is quality then do a review and put in blog. He could even take photos of each element that the vendor uses to prove otherwise
Anonymous E replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#507,268
@507,266 (Syntax) > Matt for 20+ years has a Sexual history with scat as published on the web
I don't recall a single mention of Scat on Ghoul 1 or 2 nor on TC when he posted here in the early day and certainly not on MC. I think you are getting carried away by your own exaggerations.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#507,270
Oh look, its fucking nothing. As expected.
Syntax (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#507,273
@507,267 (H)
No it is not. That wood make it to easy and he could argue all year long the food is quality then do a review and put in blog. He could even take photos of each element that the vendor uses to prove otherwise
That said virtually all expats avoid that street food with some hilarious comments about sickness after. Retarded China still allows DDT which is far far more of a problem then it was in USA
I mean a very terrible problem along with a lot of topical chemicals designed to make it very difficult to wash off when home. A Rain thing so as to not wash off
> Proof cannot be good if it can be argued
No need for me to repeat the numbers - Numbers do prove most of the oil used in Kunming kitchens is poured through a simple wide wire mess screen and put in cans and sold or bottles as in pic abouve
There is no way to avoid the large fecal content - Except smart xpats do buy name brand oils they trust and do not eat out - or if they do its steamed items like Steam fish
Of course the steam is from water loaded up with feces and other chemicals but one might say heat kills? LOL - The heat on cooking oil only turns shit into Carcinogens. @507,268 (E)
> > Matt for 20+ years has a Sexual history with scat as published on the web > > I don't recall a single mention of Scat on Ghoul 1 or 2 nor on TC when he posted here in the early day and certainly not on MC. I think you are getting carried away by your own exaggerations.
DID I say or imply he posts Scat on every forum he uses? For sure not on Toyota where he got promptly kicked out as well as the other car forums - MC? as TC early days lots of anon scat - more like the Emma Watson variety or yea Veronica Moser sp? lots of that. Ghoul? hardly looked at - Sure to help a few of his friends at his school when they asked me to but other then that no
You mean no Ghost scat porn?
Anonymous E replied with this 12 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#507,277
> We still await proof - stop posing and admit it is you that is full of shit.
Proof of wot?
Proof he brushes his teeth with feces water on tooth brush and then rinses brush off with water loaded with feces?
Proof that he posts scat sex all over the net where he can get away with it? Go find out how bobby6suxs likes it at SC - He don't but owner forces him Otherwise
Proof that Matt n fact goes out of way to eat food cooked in sewage? That is in fact proven and other expats who are aware of what is going on and have figured out why the get so sick stopped doing the street food Matt says is so tasty - His taste buds must be tuned to feces as a Condiment
vocalon !74TdoRkjCc joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#507,279
who cares
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#507,312
@507,273 (Syntax)
You went to all this trouble to "prove" something which is already self evident (ie that Chinese food is prepared under highly unsanitary conditions)?
Lynne, your obsessions are bordering on psychosis. Have you considered seeking professional help?
DasSheeple joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#507,313
It's 3:36 AM here in Poland... and all I see here is matt is cooking with pee pee and poo poo infested oil? And that's the proof? And and and... and... oh boy...
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#507,377
If only we knew someone who writes for the Huffington Post, this story with it's expert editing and fantastic evidence would be well received in political and tech writing circles.
Ks joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 12 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#507,379
Oily poop.
Indy joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#507,380
This is your "proof"? LMAO 20 years of making outrageous claims and backing them up with bullshit.
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 40 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#507,391
OP is obsessed
Icarus !!RYuDwL6YV joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 7 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#507,433
> Bobby6sucks on the other hand appears to live with it as that weee child must obey his parent.
> Parent n this comment is safe as tl;dr no one will C - Just talked to his parent in fact and wot a laff that was nor do I dare say more. Learned a lesson about talking to weeee child's > parent 2day.
Well there you go!!!
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Anonymous I replied with this 12 years ago, 1 day later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#507,969
@previous (Icarus !!RYuDwL6YV)
Syntax talked to your dad?!
Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 13 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#507,974
R U aware? Many on chans are a lot younger as true as can b. Many and you no this for a fact of life ...Many are young and living life as if they were old as fuck. For instance take Fatfuck as 42 or so now and did you per chance take a view of how this Young person spent his Friday as in day n Night and Saturday as in day n night in total in chair or couch only on WWW and Sunday Sunday
Has he no clue time stamps no lie?
So U C my point eh. Young may someone be but if they live life as if very old ready to croak stuck in Metaphorical basement 24/7 Young does them no good at all.
Anonymous I replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#508,021
@previous (Syntax)
Didn't read that illegible gibberish, but yes, creepy old fucker.
beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#508,024
@508,012 (Syntax)
That's really crossing a line, man. I don't want to hear about it.
Syntax (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 28 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#508,033
@previous (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao) > That's really crossing a line, man. I don't want to hear about it.
for someone about to enter the world of professional Legal
One should keep an open mind and have a few more facts before saying as you say
Just Saying
Honest it will make you smile I promise because its something that cannot be shared in the open and ITS not what you think it is ~k~
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#508,034
> Everyone already knows bobby is an old guy pretending to be a wee english schoolboy. So you've been talking to his father have you?
That is for me to no and for you to find out.
Syntax (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#508,208
Oh and based on his real age, its possible the guy I talked to is his step dad or something of that order - It was not my business for me to ask details of their relationship - its even possible they are on very intimate terms? I really do not no
Anonymous T replied with this 12 years ago, 1 day later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#508,350
@previous (Syntax)
His real age is 27. He has not been 15 years old for 5 years. His parents are not a Lord and Lady headmaster/headmistress. He has not survived 2.5 deadly plane crashes and a boat explosion. He does not have a black manservant and also a black Au Pair. He, like you (x2) and Matt, has an imaginary girlfriend. He enjoys talking about being spanked for being ever so beastly by his parents (matter and patter) whilst wearing a top hat, bow tie and having a cup of tea and a crumpet etc.
It's no wonder you and he are friends, do you spend your time together making outlandish unbelievable claims and believing each other?
It sure seems like it bud.
Syntax (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 46 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#508,355
@previous (T) Excuse me but
I come in from dancing the nite away (early start 7:30 pm early end 11:30PM band has to be in a studio very early AM)
Where did you cum up with Bobby6Sux and I as friends? I think its more of a mutually tolerate situation at best. AND You No there really is a simple way to resolve if Bobby is a teen cough cough but again its real easy for him to prove Teen or Over the Top Middle age such as Matt
Matt as u no lives as if he is in a Hospice as in very very old
> He has not been 15 years old for 5 years.
Totally agree and to believe that he was 0 or 10 on AnT as Kimmo fan is just bizarre
Anonymous U joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#508,356
@previous (Syntax)
Do you ALWAYS have to bring up Matt, you obsessed weirdo?
Syntax (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#508,359
@previous (U)
As you I several times a day flush my toilet and contents travel down a pipe to system to deal with it and get rid of in total.
Matt = Toilet
Toilet needed Flushed
I bet you always flush yours
I bet Matt does not until the last possible second
Anonymous T replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#508,361
@508,356 (U)
Awww, let the old fool have his crazy thread about Matt and poop. It might contain the overflow into other threads
Anonymous V joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 week later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#510,886
poo oil bump
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Syntax replied with this 9 years ago, 14 minutes later, 2 years after the original post[^][v]#796,910
@previous (beckyderp !yDoooooooo)
Dayuuuuummmmm look at the number of people that looked at this topic.
Turns out this disgusting practice has spread to India
And it continues in practice to this year in China -
PUBLISHED : Thursday, 27 April, 2017, 2:00pm
UPDATED : Monday, 12 June, 2017, 12:53pm