Topic: Why does everyone consider Rome such a great Civilization?
Anonymous A started this discussion 12 years ago #37,748
I'm not against Rome, I just don't know much about Rome, and it seems to me they didn't actually do much. Much of their culture and science seems to have come from the Greeks (who were amazing) but they themselves didn't seem to do much. I mean, sure, they conquered much of Europe, but the Mongol Empire was MUCH larger and grew much quicker, not to mention the British Empire. Also, they didn't last that long, relatively. 1000 years seems long, but consider that the Zhou dynasty of China alone lasted nearly that long, and other countries, too, such as Korea have a far longer history (Korea's history as a civilization is over 4300 years old).
In my own opinion, China, India, and Arabia just seem to be greater civilizations (my personal number one? China/ East Asia. Though they fell behind in scientific and military technology by the 1700s, their civilian and economic technology was still number one- in 1820 China alone controlled 33% of the world's economy!)
So, Rome lovers, what's great about Rome? Enlighten me!
In my own opinion, China, India, and Arabia just seem to be greater civilizations (my personal number one? China/ East Asia. Though they fell behind in scientific and military technology by the 1700s, their civilian and economic technology was still number one- in 1820 China alone controlled 33% of the world's economy!)
So, Rome lovers, what's great about Rome? Enlighten me!
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later[^] [v] #506,667
The main reason is that Rome brought Western-style, rationed, ordered thought and customs to the world. They were also geniuses at the art of war.
Icarus !!fxtF/31b/ joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 47 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #506,682
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 51 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #506,690
Typical ignorant brit/usamerican
Icarus !!fxtF/31b/ replied with this 12 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #506,694
@previous (D)A true Brit would not be that ignorant of his past. Much of our culture and virtually all of our early innovation came from the Romans.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 48 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #506,707
Icarus !!fxtF/31b/ replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #506,708
Spoken like a true ignoramUS.
Anonymous E replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #506,715
@previous (Icarus !!fxtF/31b/)
I'm British, you knob. Your gimmick is embarrassingly and completely unfunny.
I'm British, you knob. Your gimmick is embarrassingly and completely unfunny.
Icarus !!fxtF/31b/ replied with this 12 years ago, 16 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #506,720
@previous (E)Then you could never have studied history or you would understand the importance of our Roman heritage. A course in good manners would not go amiss either.
Syntax joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 25 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #506,728
@OP
YOUR TOPIC: Is totally copypasta PLAGIARIZED 2007 how do you sprel Busted
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=287613
YOUR TOPIC: Is totally copypasta PLAGIARIZED 2007 how do you sprel Busted
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=287613
Anonymous E replied with this 12 years ago, 31 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #506,735
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #506,766
Didn't ancient rome know about how toxic lead could be, but used lead anyway in places like aqueducts? That's not really great, is it ?
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #506,769
@previous (G)
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/23o92d/on_cosmos_neil_degrassetyson_said_some_historians/
Its a lot to read with a huge number of good links. Even though many debunk the theory that Rome used lead to make wines and water sweet - I suspect its true. Doubt they wood have a clue Lead was a poison
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/23o92d/on_cosmos_neil_degrassetyson_said_some_historians/
Its a lot to read with a huge number of good links. Even though many debunk the theory that Rome used lead to make wines and water sweet - I suspect its true. Doubt they wood have a clue Lead was a poison
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #506,775
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #506,776
@506,769 (Syntax)
thanks, its kind of funny because i heard it from Neil as well. Before that i thought it was just hogwash when i heard they used it in pluming. If i remember correctly, Neil said that they must have known, since they had a deity that was supposed to represent lead, and it represented lead in a very bad way.
@previous (H)
The world also knows about the effects of synthetic chemicals, if they are produced from oil that is. If you have never head, look up BPA on Wikipedia. Basically BPA is a chemical that does not only mimic estrogen but also is toxic. Every plastic bottled drink that you have drunk, contained BPA. Yet BPA never was listed on the contents of the drink, was it ? Nope.
thanks, its kind of funny because i heard it from Neil as well. Before that i thought it was just hogwash when i heard they used it in pluming. If i remember correctly, Neil said that they must have known, since they had a deity that was supposed to represent lead, and it represented lead in a very bad way.
@previous (H)
The world also knows about the effects of synthetic chemicals, if they are produced from oil that is. If you have never head, look up BPA on Wikipedia. Basically BPA is a chemical that does not only mimic estrogen but also is toxic. Every plastic bottled drink that you have drunk, contained BPA. Yet BPA never was listed on the contents of the drink, was it ? Nope.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 9 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #506,777
because white people use and spread stories, myths, and histories of their cultural lineage while ignoring other cultures they are less familiar with?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 16 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #506,782
The Roman Empire was also full of degenerates.
Anonymous J replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #506,784
(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
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Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #506,806
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 56 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #506,813
@506,775 (H)Exactly And radiation is a key factor in health the hurting of health in many of my Satellites. In fact by a simple Ignore on selection of over the top elliptical orbits of a few - They reach up to far into a zone of extra hurt and expire as a result much to soon. And currently with hydrocarbons, countries that have a clue still look like this and its truly lulz to see how China figures how to solve this mess quickly without doing anything at the source of the problem like burning bad coal or putting on smog devices for autos
Syntax double-posted this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #506,814
@506,776 (I)
Years ago with just common sense I said no wrap with saran wrap or any food cooked in Microwave in plastic. Figure pre melting plastic wood outgas and poison food
On the if they new and wood they have stopped? People still smoke with full knowledge of high risk of heart problems and cancer.
Years ago with just common sense I said no wrap with saran wrap or any food cooked in Microwave in plastic. Figure pre melting plastic wood outgas and poison food
On the if they new and wood they have stopped? People still smoke with full knowledge of high risk of heart problems and cancer.
dw (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 month later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #516,036
nerds
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #516,038
m8, no. Rome was fucking cool as shit. Those armies! Those awesome shield formations! That rich history! Those interesting leaders! That epic rise and fall!
Uh. Yes. I thought they were an interesting civilisation, myself.
Uh. Yes. I thought they were an interesting civilisation, myself.
Anonymous H replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #516,090
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #516,091
@previous (H)
They never went into Cornwall.
I once heard that we gave them tin so they'd leave us alone.
They never went into Cornwall.
I once heard that we gave them tin so they'd leave us alone.
Anonymous H replied with this 12 years ago, 55 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #516,112
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
But they went as deep as welsh country didn't they? Roman presence in England is a bit cloudy to me.
But they went as deep as welsh country didn't they? Roman presence in England is a bit cloudy to me.
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #516,129
War. War never changes.
The Romans waged war to gather slaves and wealth. Spain built an empire from its lust for gold and territory. Hitler shaped a battered Germany into an economic superpower.
But war never changes.
The Romans waged war to gather slaves and wealth. Spain built an empire from its lust for gold and territory. Hitler shaped a battered Germany into an economic superpower.
But war never changes.
squeegee joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #516,134
the romans were great assimilators. they basically had open borders, meaning anyone could head to rome and go there and gain citizenship. they also brought in lots of slaves of varrying cultures and treated them mostly like indentured employees and not so much like a whipping slave so people sold themselves into slavery for periods of time to transition into their meltingpot culture. sure greeks were great at many things but they were racist as fuck and their culture merely influenced a major culture that could spread like wildfire. so more than anything romans accumulated culture and ideas from all over the world and had a largely open society and that concept was their big innovation and influence on the future of global civilizations.
Anonymous N replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #516,138
@previous (squeegee)
> they basically had open borders, meaning anyone could head to rome and go there and gain citizenship
That was what killed them. When all of Northern Europe fled from The Huns, it overwhelmed them.
> they basically had open borders, meaning anyone could head to rome and go there and gain citizenship
That was what killed them. When all of Northern Europe fled from The Huns, it overwhelmed them.