Topic: Kunming China stinks, Apart from the germs spread by spitting and blowing your nose everywhere
Rantsaboutchina started this discussion 12 years ago #37,447
Even Dirtier - Kunming China, Toilet Habits
Children learn bad toilet habits from young. They will literally stoop and pee or defecate on the street, despite there being a public toilet 10 metres away.
Apart from the germs spread by spitting and blowing your nose everywhere, there are other things you have to contend with in Kunming China. Perhaps the vilest of these are the toilet habits of the Chinese, so vile so that they deserve a chapter to themselves.
Some may argue that these are cultural differences. But I beg to differ. There are cultural differences that can and should be tolerated, and there are just plain nasty habits that hark back to an era of primitiveness when we still walked on all fours. China has squat toilets and Western style toilets. The squat toilets are traditional and are a cultural difference. But the toilet habits of many Chinese are not. They are extraordinarily dirty. Sometimes, I think even a dog has cleaner potty habits than many of them.
A toilet in Chinese countryside is usually a harrowing experience and one you will unfortunately remember for the rest of your life (unless you're Chinese). First, the smell: you can usually smell a Chinese toilet from far off. When you enter, you may run back out. What greets you are a row of rectangular holes in the ground and all around them are strewn lumps of stale feces and used toilet paper. There are no doors on the stalls, sometimes, even no partitions between the holes. But those are just the very sometimes when you've eaten some of China’s finest prepared laxatives, prepared in a dirty restaurant by dirty people. So you quickly glance around, then run back in, clutching your aching stomach in agony. You very gingerly step towards the toilet, taking utmost care not to step on any stale shit or used toilet paper and do your business.
If you are lucky, you will use the toilet in privacy. But if you aren't, some Chinese person will enter, see you, a foreigner squatting and start giggling. If you’re in a school, then you may very well die of embarrassment when the kids see you and not only giggle, but beckon their friends, loudly proclaiming, “Waiguo laoshi shang cesuo” – Foreign teacher using toilet, and the whole lot come running in and trying to see if your bottom is blue in colour.
Yet, I feel the behaviour of the kids is tame compared to the animals whose are so primitive they can’t defecate into the toilet and throw toilet paper in the toilet or wastebasket provided for the purpose. You start asking yourself if they know what a toilet is to be used for in the first place. What is wrong with these people? Is this how they behave in their houses? Do they like to see stale shit on entering the toilet? Or do they get woozy from the stench and accidentally position their rear ends wrongly.
City people will claim these are dirty countryside habits but this is a blatant lie. For two years, I lived in a provincial capital in China's northeast. I worked in a modern high rise building on the eleventh floor in the most cosmopolitan area of the city. You could smell the toilets when you got off the elevator, despite the doors to the toilets being shut. The act of going to use the toilet was filled with apprehension, because 75% of the time, when you entered, the toilet was un-flushed by the last occupant and full of reeking shit. Judging by the amount of shit, sometimes it was the last 2 or 3 occupants. On many occasions, I almost puked. And even in the squat pots, they spit on the floor, not in the pot. So when you go in and squat, you're staring at frothy spit in front of you.
Children learn bad toilet habits from young. They will literally stoop and pee or defecate on the street, despite there being a public toilet 10 metres away. The vast majority of Chinese children have never worn a diaper. Instead, they have a big slit that, when they stoop down, opens and allows them to pass whatever. Or if it’s a baby, the mother will hold the baby up, and indecently open the baby’s legs as wide as possible. Once I was on a train and there was a toddler who wanted to use the toilet. Rather than take the child to the toilet 5 metres away, the mother opened a bottle and had the child pee in that. Have some of these people no shame, no sense of what is decent and acceptable to civilized people? Really, what do these people think sometimes? Is there shit in their heads as well as in their lower parts?
The state of Chinese toilets is the one thing most repulsive to foreigners in China. And this is the thing I most cannot understand about China: the toilet habits of not all but so very many. I can understand the lack of privacy - Chinese people grow up with the community and family so they do everything together, including using the toilet. So to them it doesn’t matter if there are no doors. But for the filthiness, there is just NO excuse. When I went hiking about the countryside in England, I came to a conclusion that humans are different from animals. Animals shit everywhere and don’t care. Humans, on the other hand, have a sense of decency, self respect and an appreciation for hygiene.
Chinese people are human right, so why can't they realize that the sight and smell of shit that’s weeks old is repulsive? That toilet paper thrown everywhere is unsightly and disgusting? Really, you don’t have to have a brain to realize this. But like obeying traffic laws, littering and queuing, this is just another example of the Chinese state of mind where common sense and what is practical and beneficial to the society takes second place to uncivilized impulsiveness, selfishness and stupidity. And dirtiness.
Children learn bad toilet habits from young. They will literally stoop and pee or defecate on the street, despite there being a public toilet 10 metres away.
Apart from the germs spread by spitting and blowing your nose everywhere, there are other things you have to contend with in Kunming China. Perhaps the vilest of these are the toilet habits of the Chinese, so vile so that they deserve a chapter to themselves.
Some may argue that these are cultural differences. But I beg to differ. There are cultural differences that can and should be tolerated, and there are just plain nasty habits that hark back to an era of primitiveness when we still walked on all fours. China has squat toilets and Western style toilets. The squat toilets are traditional and are a cultural difference. But the toilet habits of many Chinese are not. They are extraordinarily dirty. Sometimes, I think even a dog has cleaner potty habits than many of them.
A toilet in Chinese countryside is usually a harrowing experience and one you will unfortunately remember for the rest of your life (unless you're Chinese). First, the smell: you can usually smell a Chinese toilet from far off. When you enter, you may run back out. What greets you are a row of rectangular holes in the ground and all around them are strewn lumps of stale feces and used toilet paper. There are no doors on the stalls, sometimes, even no partitions between the holes. But those are just the very sometimes when you've eaten some of China’s finest prepared laxatives, prepared in a dirty restaurant by dirty people. So you quickly glance around, then run back in, clutching your aching stomach in agony. You very gingerly step towards the toilet, taking utmost care not to step on any stale shit or used toilet paper and do your business.
If you are lucky, you will use the toilet in privacy. But if you aren't, some Chinese person will enter, see you, a foreigner squatting and start giggling. If you’re in a school, then you may very well die of embarrassment when the kids see you and not only giggle, but beckon their friends, loudly proclaiming, “Waiguo laoshi shang cesuo” – Foreign teacher using toilet, and the whole lot come running in and trying to see if your bottom is blue in colour.
Yet, I feel the behaviour of the kids is tame compared to the animals whose are so primitive they can’t defecate into the toilet and throw toilet paper in the toilet or wastebasket provided for the purpose. You start asking yourself if they know what a toilet is to be used for in the first place. What is wrong with these people? Is this how they behave in their houses? Do they like to see stale shit on entering the toilet? Or do they get woozy from the stench and accidentally position their rear ends wrongly.
City people will claim these are dirty countryside habits but this is a blatant lie. For two years, I lived in a provincial capital in China's northeast. I worked in a modern high rise building on the eleventh floor in the most cosmopolitan area of the city. You could smell the toilets when you got off the elevator, despite the doors to the toilets being shut. The act of going to use the toilet was filled with apprehension, because 75% of the time, when you entered, the toilet was un-flushed by the last occupant and full of reeking shit. Judging by the amount of shit, sometimes it was the last 2 or 3 occupants. On many occasions, I almost puked. And even in the squat pots, they spit on the floor, not in the pot. So when you go in and squat, you're staring at frothy spit in front of you.
Children learn bad toilet habits from young. They will literally stoop and pee or defecate on the street, despite there being a public toilet 10 metres away. The vast majority of Chinese children have never worn a diaper. Instead, they have a big slit that, when they stoop down, opens and allows them to pass whatever. Or if it’s a baby, the mother will hold the baby up, and indecently open the baby’s legs as wide as possible. Once I was on a train and there was a toddler who wanted to use the toilet. Rather than take the child to the toilet 5 metres away, the mother opened a bottle and had the child pee in that. Have some of these people no shame, no sense of what is decent and acceptable to civilized people? Really, what do these people think sometimes? Is there shit in their heads as well as in their lower parts?
The state of Chinese toilets is the one thing most repulsive to foreigners in China. And this is the thing I most cannot understand about China: the toilet habits of not all but so very many. I can understand the lack of privacy - Chinese people grow up with the community and family so they do everything together, including using the toilet. So to them it doesn’t matter if there are no doors. But for the filthiness, there is just NO excuse. When I went hiking about the countryside in England, I came to a conclusion that humans are different from animals. Animals shit everywhere and don’t care. Humans, on the other hand, have a sense of decency, self respect and an appreciation for hygiene.
Chinese people are human right, so why can't they realize that the sight and smell of shit that’s weeks old is repulsive? That toilet paper thrown everywhere is unsightly and disgusting? Really, you don’t have to have a brain to realize this. But like obeying traffic laws, littering and queuing, this is just another example of the Chinese state of mind where common sense and what is practical and beneficial to the society takes second place to uncivilized impulsiveness, selfishness and stupidity. And dirtiness.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 35 seconds later[^] [v] #504,552
Just out of curiosity, have you been to Kunming?
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 22 minutes later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #504,554
@previous (B)
Hell is believed to be a place of eternal torment that one is sentenced to after death. China must be that purgatory one resides in, before entering hell.
Hell is believed to be a place of eternal torment that one is sentenced to after death. China must be that purgatory one resides in, before entering hell.
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 11 minutes later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #504,555
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 second later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #504,556
Google search on "Chinese culture"
romper stomper wrote:
Chinese culture- just visit a pig farm you will see all the same behavior.
The Chinese literally are the ignorant pigs of the planet
http://www.shanghaiexpat.com
romper stomper wrote:
Chinese culture- just visit a pig farm you will see all the same behavior.
The Chinese literally are the ignorant pigs of the planet
http://www.shanghaiexpat.com
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Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #504,560
ITT: people who have never been to China and know nothing about it, judging an 8,000 year old culture on the comments of a few angry expats online.
8,000 year old culture? 3-2014 joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 15 minutes later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #504,561
@previous (B)http://www.chinahush.com/2014/03/17/the-most-disgusting-trains-in-china/
The most disgusting trains in China
Mitch Blatt | March 17th, 2014
Dirty beds on overnight trains became the focus of discussion in China after a Tencent microblog user shared a photo of the disgusting sheets on his ride from Fujian to Changsha.
Bedbugs on train D313 from Beijing to Shanghai
DIRTY FLOORS
Trains are dirty because people throw trash on the floor. The train workers are supposed to periodically sweep it up, they don’t.
(Edited 27 seconds later.)
Soph joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 13 seconds later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #504,562
@504,560 (B)
> the degenerated remains of an 8.000 year old culture thanks in no small part due to commie dysgenics
ftfy
> the degenerated remains of an 8.000 year old culture thanks in no small part due to commie dysgenics
ftfy
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #504,563
Soph replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 59 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #504,564
Anonymous F replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #504,565
@504,562 (Soph)8.000 year old culture
Communist assholes treat humans with dignity? no no no no no no no
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #504,566
Soph replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #504,568
@previous (B)
More than a failed White who fleed his own country in an audacious undeestimation of the Chinese' intolerance for such lowly, defective weigao.
More than a failed White who fleed his own country in an audacious undeestimation of the Chinese' intolerance for such lowly, defective weigao.
(Edited 29 seconds later.)
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 27 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #504,569
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Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #504,572
@previous (Soph)
I am aworld traveling, swashbuckling adventurer. You are an Autistic basement dweller. Thanks.
I am aworld traveling, swashbuckling adventurer. You are an Autistic basement dweller. Thanks.
Soph replied with this 12 years ago, 29 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #504,573
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@504,563 (B)
> You know nothing about China or Kunming. Thanks.
New to this bbs. Is it ok if I comment here?
In response to your question, here are my thoughts. I’ll tell you honestly, after reading about China, why would I subject myself to what I see here?
> You know nothing about China or Kunming. Thanks.
New to this bbs. Is it ok if I comment here?
In response to your question, here are my thoughts. I’ll tell you honestly, after reading about China, why would I subject myself to what I see here?
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 45 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #504,582
@previous (H)
What you are reading, are the rants of a handful of angry, spoiled expats. The real China is wonderful.
What you are reading, are the rants of a handful of angry, spoiled expats. The real China is wonderful.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #504,584
@504,569 (B)
> You have never left your basement, you Autistic weirdo.
Reward for reply of the century.
You go girl.
> You have never left your basement, you Autistic weirdo.
Reward for reply of the century.
You go girl.
Soph replied with this 12 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #504,586
The real China joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #504,591
@504,580 (H)@504,582 (B)
Angry overworked Chinese worker, sleeping on factory food, ready for shipment as quality off the floor food for all Chinese including expats consumption.
And now this sad 106 year old minichan poster will hobble wobble n wiggle on my MORE THEN 10 Miles today to work off the tears of last night (World class major wonderful gal friend passed away last night)
That said: I submitted the final work product for Proof as I said I wood. Editor has completed the task. Yes there are a couple 3 changes I wood like to make. However after working with editors I pay a small fortune too, for a number of years, I have learned the bitter lesson of - Editors are usually right and I no so much. Because I besides being Dyslexic; I have little respect for a language so boggled down in uncommon sense when compared to Mathematics and Logic, which have filled my wallet AND THIS WEEK to Temporary Overflowing as MicroShit lets call them Micro Soft this AM has completed the Electronic Transfer to my business bank account of 125% of what they owe me (based on my billing based on hours total)
Its so fucking rare for a client to pay a bonus - Qualcomm does treat Consultants as well as contracted Janitorial services with the same respect they treat employees. Always invited to company events and parties and often THEY give out bonuses as well as stock options to even contracted Janitorial services.
So it shocks me that Micro Soft who I despise with every bone in my 106 year old body has paid me with a bonus (Yes I phoned them to be sure it was not a mistrake of over payment) They apologized for just a show of extra cold hard cash because they have additional plans
New Product has passed the official FCC lab tests - Am allowed to say - A new Nokia like Smart phone from Micro Soft contains Qualcomm Snapdragon Processor as well as two other Qualcomm chips AND a 4th chip for the RF power output section - Not a Qualcomm product as stamped but NOW NOW a Qualcomm newly purchased company.
Does this new MicroSoft product use a Microsoft O/S? Not according to those in the no. All Snapdragon CPU's run on a British paid for License for ARM/RISC technology. Its the Kernel (British of origin) of course the British version is the basis and that is all it is. This Snapdragon MS is buying by the Millions along with the other chips by the same millions, is happy to run on MS 8.1 or Apple o/s any version OR ON Android. No other company provides a CPU that can do that.
So will the Smartphone ship with MS O/S? Well of course NOT with Apple O/S so that leaves Chrome Android. Wood MS use Chrome? Stay tuned.
Exits Rite Exits Left for MORE MORE then 10 as to drive away my tears very real tears OH OH OH
Editor if you per chance read all the wayyyyyy down to here? My decision is to go 100% with your Edit - Needed to get Cousins Legal opinion which cost me a horrid $1.00 and 6 bucks this AM at Starbucks. Cousin for them who Google has law office on Coast Hwy 101 in short walking distance from me - One edit required a Legal Opinion and Legal says more then OK
Now When does this Epic post get published? After a few tears have dried enough. I cry so rare so very rare so I think Publication is soon very soon or sooner
Of course Editor is free to beat me to the Punch and Publish in my name with my permission OR it can wait till I hit my keys on a real keyboard
Matt goin to SHIT Bricks and by the way Matt, have you talked to your dad recently? I no someone who has (ok not on phone but for sure in mail) And soon he is going to shit bricks as result but ONLY when Work Product is Published
Now Matt will say with meme "You know nothing about China or Kunming. Thanks."
I have been there for limited days many tymes - Next tyme you go to Beijing check out where Globalstar is located. Ya do no Globalstar covers ALL of China and there are several OTHER ground station locations BUT I R NOT Allowed to mention where they are located cause China policy says so. Weird but it cost China extra for such policy
Be back in few hours - Sleep well Matt as you goin soon to b busy with extra tasks you not prepared to be busy for
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #504,593
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Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 45 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #504,602
@previous (D)
He claimed that a month ago, and insisted he had "proof", but there is no proof here yet.
He claimed that a month ago, and insisted he had "proof", but there is no proof here yet.
Anonymous C replied with this 12 years ago, 7 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #504,603
Anonymous F replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #504,604
@504,602 (B)
Preview of his unedited proof and read of the edited version.
No comment about either version. Will after its posted.
Preview of his unedited proof and read of the edited version.
No comment about either version. Will after its posted.
advi !!3gpAcg/hF joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 54 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #504,605
Aren't squat shitters actually better for you, assuming they're kept clean? People aren't designed to shit like they're sitting in an office chair.
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #504,606
@previous (advi !!3gpAcg/hF)
Yes. They are much better, and more natural. They also get more crap out of your intestines.
Yes. They are much better, and more natural. They also get more crap out of your intestines.
Soph replied with this 12 years ago, 26 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #504,607
@504,605 (advi !!3gpAcg/hF)
We have evolved beyond squatting like some jungle negrid, uncivilized churl.
We have evolved beyond squatting like some jungle negrid, uncivilized churl.
Cambert (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #504,608
!EPeQhdx0ZE replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #504,616
@504,605 (advi !!3gpAcg/hF)
@504,606 (B)
Rantsaboutchina
> And even in the squat pots, they spit on the floor, not in the pot. So when you go in and squat, you're staring at frothy spit in front of you.
@504,606 (B)
Rantsaboutchina
> And even in the squat pots, they spit on the floor, not in the pot. So when you go in and squat, you're staring at frothy spit in front of you.
advi !!3gpAcg/hF replied with this 12 years ago, 16 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #504,627
@504,607 (Soph)
Damn stupid nignogs and their efficient bowel movements
@previous (!EPeQhdx0ZE)
> they spit on the floot, not in the pot
Sounds a lot like American kids, too.
Damn stupid nignogs and their efficient bowel movements
@previous (!EPeQhdx0ZE)
> they spit on the floot, not in the pot
Sounds a lot like American kids, too.