Topic: Oh dear god, I cant even.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ started this discussion 12 years ago #36,674
http://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2014/08/22/laverne-cox-launches-media-campaign-in-support-of-transwoman-synthia-china-blast-convicted-for-the-rape-murder-and-abuse-of-the-corpse-of-thirteen-year-old-ebony-nicole-williams/#comments
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/2-kings-life-rape-slay-girl-13-article-1.737954#Pt0MJvEyxkpfVubl.97
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/2-kings-life-rape-slay-girl-13-article-1.737954#Pt0MJvEyxkpfVubl.97
kook !!32zdfdzi+ (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later[^] [v] #498,404
Laverne Cox’s video has been widely promoted as “Laverne Cox Reads A Letter From A Transwoman Currently In Prison”, but this isn’t the first publicized “letter” from Synthia China Blast, born Luis Morales.In 2004 Synthia China Blast emulated the New York Zodiac Killer Heriberto Seda, by sending a typewritten letter to the NY Daily News, titled “This is the voice of the Zodiac Killer’s Wife”. In the letter the sex-offender and child-killer expressed his desire to “become a woman” and “marry” the serial killer, who was serving his 235-year sentence in the same facility. “If I was a real woman I could bring about little future serial killers to terrorize NYC like my husband did. How [New Yorkers] would of loathed the Zodiac Children,” Blast wrote.
Out of all the causes in the entire world that could have been championed, the OITNB star Laverne Cox asks that you lend your support to a deranged, sadistic, life-extinguishing person who raped and murdered little Ebony Nicole Williams, then dumped her lifeless body off a highway underpass, later returning to burn her corpse.
Cox is joined in this action by the Sylvia Rivera Law Project, a transgender organization that supports incarcerated males who are serving sentences for the rape, murder, and sexual exploitation of children. The organization encourages transgender youth to write to these men, including pedophile Lewis Stevens who represents the Sylvia Rivera Law Project as “Lennea Elizabeth Stevens” in a blog on their website. Stevens is incarcerated for possessing a collection of videos of children being raped. See a partial list of his collection here:
kook !!32zdfdzi+ (OP) triple-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #498,405
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/zodiac-wife-curses-fate-weird-killer-couple-separated-prison-article-1.645709#HXuQVAf7tbXMDx6C.97
kook !!32zdfdzi+ (OP) quadruple-posted this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #498,406
http://checkingoftheprivilege.tumblr.com/post/95531157176/stop-attacking-my-goddess-laverne-cox
Stop attacking my goddess Laverne Cox
[TW: trans-hate, murder, prisons, body essentialism, TERFs]
OK I am getting FUCKING sick and tired of tumblr accusing Laverne Cox showing support for moving a real woman into a women’s prison. No it doesn’t matter if she was ‘born a male’ what matters is she’s stuck in the wrong prison. IT IS a social justice issue and if you think otherwise you’re perpetuating trans-hate.
Accusing Sinthia of being a rapist without any proof IS problematic. You are literally accusing a proud trans woman of color out of nowhere. I’m also skeptical about putting trans people in prison for killing or raping cis people since the cis almost always have way more privilege than the trans people (unless the trans people are DFAB) and I don’t see how you can truly be held accountable for killing or raping someone with way more privilege than you.
BUT STOP ATTACKING LAVERNE.
Stop attacking my goddess Laverne Cox
[TW: trans-hate, murder, prisons, body essentialism, TERFs]
OK I am getting FUCKING sick and tired of tumblr accusing Laverne Cox showing support for moving a real woman into a women’s prison. No it doesn’t matter if she was ‘born a male’ what matters is she’s stuck in the wrong prison. IT IS a social justice issue and if you think otherwise you’re perpetuating trans-hate.
Accusing Sinthia of being a rapist without any proof IS problematic. You are literally accusing a proud trans woman of color out of nowhere. I’m also skeptical about putting trans people in prison for killing or raping cis people since the cis almost always have way more privilege than the trans people (unless the trans people are DFAB) and I don’t see how you can truly be held accountable for killing or raping someone with way more privilege than you.
BUT STOP ATTACKING LAVERNE.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ (OP) quintuple-posted this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #498,407
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/2-kings-life-rape-slay-girl-13-article-1.737954
A Bronx mother yesterday berated two members of the Latin Kings gang for smirking while standing trial for torturing and killing her 13-year-old daughter. Yvonne Hill then nodded approvingly when the men were sentenced to life in prison for murdering Ebony Williams. "Ever since the trial was going on, all I see is Luis Morales grinning and Carlos Franco, too," Hill said. "You ain't smiling today. I hope you both rot in hell.
" Morales, 22, and Franco, 24, appeared unmoved as Bronx Supreme Court Justice Martin Marcus sentenced them to 25 years to life for the 1993slaying. Bronx Prosecutor William Hrabsky said the two held the girl captive in a Hunts Point apartment, Morales raping her and repeatedly slashing her body. Franco was charged with killing the girl after breaking her neck. "The suffering that this poor child went through is beyond belief and puts this crime in the category of monstrous and barbarous," Hrabsky said. Investigators said the men shoved Ebony's body into a box and dumped it on the Sheridan Expressway at E. 165th St., where it was set on fire. They later bragged about the crime to friends, many of whom testified against them. In court, a defiant Morales wore a black-and-gold Latin Kings necklace and insisted that other gang members, not he and Franco, killed Ebony. "I will be back down and I will be vindicated," he said. "I didn't kill her. I didn't do it. But whatever happens here today, I'll take it like a man.
" The judge denied last-minute requests both men wrote seeking to overturn their convictions on technicalities. He then chastised them for their cavalier attitudes throughout the trial. "Their demeanor in this courtroom . . . speaks volumes," he said.
A Bronx mother yesterday berated two members of the Latin Kings gang for smirking while standing trial for torturing and killing her 13-year-old daughter. Yvonne Hill then nodded approvingly when the men were sentenced to life in prison for murdering Ebony Williams. "Ever since the trial was going on, all I see is Luis Morales grinning and Carlos Franco, too," Hill said. "You ain't smiling today. I hope you both rot in hell.
" Morales, 22, and Franco, 24, appeared unmoved as Bronx Supreme Court Justice Martin Marcus sentenced them to 25 years to life for the 1993slaying. Bronx Prosecutor William Hrabsky said the two held the girl captive in a Hunts Point apartment, Morales raping her and repeatedly slashing her body. Franco was charged with killing the girl after breaking her neck. "The suffering that this poor child went through is beyond belief and puts this crime in the category of monstrous and barbarous," Hrabsky said. Investigators said the men shoved Ebony's body into a box and dumped it on the Sheridan Expressway at E. 165th St., where it was set on fire. They later bragged about the crime to friends, many of whom testified against them. In court, a defiant Morales wore a black-and-gold Latin Kings necklace and insisted that other gang members, not he and Franco, killed Ebony. "I will be back down and I will be vindicated," he said. "I didn't kill her. I didn't do it. But whatever happens here today, I'll take it like a man.
" The judge denied last-minute requests both men wrote seeking to overturn their convictions on technicalities. He then chastised them for their cavalier attitudes throughout the trial. "Their demeanor in this courtroom . . . speaks volumes," he said.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #498,408
kook !!32zdfdzi+ (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #498,410
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #498,414
@498,408 (B)
TL;DR: a transexual person murdered somebody and expressed their admiration for the zodiac killer. Some other transexual activists supported this person for some reason.
I'm expecting that buspuppie will use this to try and claim that all or most transexuals are immoral and crazy. Though there is also a legitimate criticism to be made on the mentality of those supporting this person or the crazed SJW types like in @498,406 (kook !!32zdfdzi+) .
TL;DR: a transexual person murdered somebody and expressed their admiration for the zodiac killer. Some other transexual activists supported this person for some reason.
I'm expecting that buspuppie will use this to try and claim that all or most transexuals are immoral and crazy. Though there is also a legitimate criticism to be made on the mentality of those supporting this person or the crazed SJW types like in @498,406 (kook !!32zdfdzi+) .
beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #498,416
I believe this transwoman should be allowed to use any bathroom she wants, including ones frequented by little girls. Transwomen pose no threat to real females ever.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #498,418
@498,414 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I dont believe that all transexuals are crazy. I do believe that transwomen are males who act like males, and who dont care for or respect females.-
I dont believe that all transexuals are crazy. I do believe that transwomen are males who act like males, and who dont care for or respect females.-
kook !!32zdfdzi+ (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #498,419
@498,416 (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
I should go kill a few children, so that the Hollywood elite will publicly suck my clit.-
I should go kill a few children, so that the Hollywood elite will publicly suck my clit.-
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 12 seconds later, 51 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #498,420
@498,418 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Oh course, you just want to use this to generalise transexuals as bad people.
Oh course, you just want to use this to generalise transexuals as bad people.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 37 seconds later, 51 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #498,421
Dw !jdTkvovFCQ joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #498,422
@498,418 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Why do you keep claiming to 'not believe in gender' and then associating social aspects with being male?
Why do you keep claiming to 'not believe in gender' and then associating social aspects with being male?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #498,423
@498,421 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
This doesn't really change what I said. You want to portray MtF transexuals as being uniformly hateful women.
This doesn't really change what I said. You want to portray MtF transexuals as being uniformly hateful women.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 10 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #498,424
@498,422 (Dw !jdTkvovFCQ)
Because its due to their sex. Even when claiming to be "female minded" they act like males, because they are males.
Because its due to their sex. Even when claiming to be "female minded" they act like males, because they are males.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #498,425
@498,423 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
LOL no. They hate women the same amount or more as other males. maybe more because they rarely try to hide their contempt, because they can just say I hate cis people, and it wont seem sexist.
LOL no. They hate women the same amount or more as other males. maybe more because they rarely try to hide their contempt, because they can just say I hate cis people, and it wont seem sexist.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #498,426
@498,424 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
So... You do believe in innate gender behaviours, then? Because you were very against this concept before, such as when we discussed David Reimer. You were adamant that he identified as male and acted in a "male" fashion due to unwitting cues from his parents, not because he had some innate drive to engage in such behaviours.
So... You do believe in innate gender behaviours, then? Because you were very against this concept before, such as when we discussed David Reimer. You were adamant that he identified as male and acted in a "male" fashion due to unwitting cues from his parents, not because he had some innate drive to engage in such behaviours.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 40 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #498,427
Laverne Cox certainly hates females, because "she" has more pity for a convicted violent male, than a dead female child.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #498,428
@498,425 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
So now you're saying that all men have an innate hatred towards women? That's... Really cynical, and not really very reasonable. Surely, views on gender equality are largely (if not entirely) down to an individual's own viewpoint?
So now you're saying that all men have an innate hatred towards women? That's... Really cynical, and not really very reasonable. Surely, views on gender equality are largely (if not entirely) down to an individual's own viewpoint?
kook !!32zdfdzi+ (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 6 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #498,429
@498,426 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I believe that some behaviors are taught, and some are biological. David Reimer looked just like his identical twin brother and was sexually abused by being forced to play the "passive role" in sex acts with his own brother. Of course he didnt want to be a woman. A female probably wouldnt have wanted to be a woman in that scenario.
I believe that some behaviors are taught, and some are biological. David Reimer looked just like his identical twin brother and was sexually abused by being forced to play the "passive role" in sex acts with his own brother. Of course he didnt want to be a woman. A female probably wouldnt have wanted to be a woman in that scenario.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #498,430
@498,428 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I'd say that many males hate women and dont care about their safety. Transwoman are males and act in the same manner. If you are triggered by your own penis, you dont use that penis to rape people.
I'd say that many males hate women and dont care about their safety. Transwoman are males and act in the same manner. If you are triggered by your own penis, you dont use that penis to rape people.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ (OP) triple-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #498,431
Becky, it should be interesting to see how the males on this site respond to Laverne Cox's dirty actions. But the reactions wont be surprising. You know that.
Dw !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 12 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #498,432
@498,424 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
> Because its due to their sex.
[citation needed]
> they act like males
elaborate
> Because its due to their sex.
[citation needed]
> they act like males
elaborate
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #498,434
@498,431 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
> Us against them! Us against them!
What a healthy mentality.
And, just to clarify, of course I don't approve of the murdering or the support of the murderer just because they a transexual. That should be a given. What I also take issue with is your reason for posting this. Namely, to prop up your dislike of MtF transexuals.
@498,430 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
"Many". That's an interesting choice of words. You won't to say that lots exist, but stop short of saying most? That's something good, I suppose.
I would say that most males don't hate women. Which is probably a given, really.
@498,429 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
But he had no idea he was a male. Only ever told he was a girl. And yet, he had an innate aversion to going into that gender role. I don't think that the weird stuff that Money made him do would make him want to completely reverse his perceived gender role.
> Us against them! Us against them!
What a healthy mentality.
And, just to clarify, of course I don't approve of the murdering or the support of the murderer just because they a transexual. That should be a given. What I also take issue with is your reason for posting this. Namely, to prop up your dislike of MtF transexuals.
@498,430 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
"Many". That's an interesting choice of words. You won't to say that lots exist, but stop short of saying most? That's something good, I suppose.
I would say that most males don't hate women. Which is probably a given, really.
@498,429 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
But he had no idea he was a male. Only ever told he was a girl. And yet, he had an innate aversion to going into that gender role. I don't think that the weird stuff that Money made him do would make him want to completely reverse his perceived gender role.
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 41 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #498,437
> Laverne Cox
> Cox
Heh
> Cox
Heh
swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #498,440
Hey im out with friends. I'll talk more about this when I get home. I love you all!