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Topic: Did Scotland leave yet?

Anonymous A started this discussion 12 years ago #36,605

Are they out of the UK?

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 25 minutes later[^] [v] #497,897

no

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #497,898

Nor will they be if they have any sense.

TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 24 seconds later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #497,899

Not until tomorrow.

Metæ joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 36 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #497,929

Forgive my USAmericanness, but why is everyone saying Scotland would have to leave the pound? Ireland kept the Irish pound, on a 1:1 basis with the UK pound until they moved to the Euro. Also breaking apart from the UK doesn't seem to have hurt Ireland that badly.

Syntax joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #497,976

@previous (Metæ)
Which wot Ireland? Republic of Ireland, or the other guys? Northern Ireland.

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 26 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #497,986

@497,929 (Metæ)

any country can issue stirling but only the uk gets any say over inflation etc so if scotland didn't like it they'd have to suck it

Metæ replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #497,991

@497,976 (Syntax)
The Republic, mora.
@previous (G)
Yeah, but that's better. Scotland could stay with the pound, or if Bank of England policy didn't work, they could go to the Euro or just make their own currency.

TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs replied with this 12 years ago, 9 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #498,000

@497,929 (Metæ)
Because Ireland and the United Kingdom were part of a currency union. Our current government, and Labour, and the Liberal Democrats, have all said a currency union is off the table. It won't happen.

Scotland desperately don't want to be in a situation where they're informally using a currency over which they have absolutely no control. Salmond, brainless mora that he is, is insisting a currency union will be agreed, despite the Tories' emphatic "no". They'd either need to create their own currency (lol) or use the Euro, both slightly more desirable than sticking informally with the Quid.

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Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #498,002

@497,991 (Metæ)
For a reply on TC I just ran the number for lowball value of Scotch North Sea Oil.

COPYPASTA


A quick look at value of Oil in North Sea is lowballed at 1.29 Trillion USA Dollars and can be as large as 4.4 Trillion bucks depending on price people are willing to pay for such oil in the future.

I remember when people felt Ireland could not sustain self yet they are doing more then OK If you look at the Ireland mostly free of invading Gestapo Brits.

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #498,005

@previous (Syntax)
Please copy and paste the entire contents of a doctoral thesis on macroeconomic effects of commodity pricing to support your point.

TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #498,008

@previous (H)
I'm surprised he hasn't mentioned the Falklands, yet.

Anonymous H replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #498,012

@previous (TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs)
damlol

Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #498,065

@498,008 (TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs)
I have elsewhere on chans re how difficult it is to escape from clutches of British Empire. Just look at Ireland n the er Troubles

@498,005 (H)
Wayyyyy to easy. So many versions on net. U go first

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #498,067

@previous (Syntax)
in the 18th century a bunch welsh people migrated down to the desert wstelands argentinian patagonia just to escape from the slimy tentacles of the brits, that's how repulsive the british empire is

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #498,070

did you see that funny onion article

Metæ replied with this 12 years ago, 27 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #498,077

@498,000 (TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs)
I think the Scots could pull off a Scottish pound and either peg it at 1:1 or keep it more or less in line with Sterling (which wouldn't require a currency union) or the Euro beckons with open arms.

From my outside position, the UK seems desperate to keep Scotland like England would be the losing partner if they split, and not the other way round. I don't think it will go through, though. I bet it's a 52/48 split in favor of staying in the UK.

Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #498,085

@498,067 (I)
Thanks for the reminder. Ya got me to hit the web for the tyme line. Odd that at the same tyme USA was round up and holocausting our indigenous Native Americans ...Argentinia was doing exactly the same thing at the same tyme. I did NOT no it was Welsh caught up in that desert mess.

With Globalstar loss of Delta2's from the Cape and Russia taking over it meant the need for several new Command Tracking n Control staions and Argentina fit in most purrrrfect. Lots of Italian and of course the Infamous Germans but it was rare I ran in2 any Welsh with left over accents

TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs replied with this 12 years ago, 18 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #498,092

@498,077 (Metæ)
> I think the Scots could pull off a Scottish pound and either peg it at 1:1 or keep it more or less in line with Sterling
Yeah, that's an option that has been discussed, but it's far from what Scots want. They - Scottish people and their SNP government included - want nothing short of a full currency union, but that's very unlikely since the UK gov't has been very strongly saying no. This entire time, Salmond has been insisting they are merely posturing and they'll "give in" when Scotland is independent. That's a bloody big gamble, and it's fuel for the 'No' campaign for sure.
> From my outside position, the UK seems desperate to keep Scotland like England would be the losing partner if they split, and not the other way round.
Think about that, though: it's almost invariably true in independence campaigns. Scotland is the one with grievances, not the UK. And Scotland isn't some tiny island far away nobody cares about, it's one of only four constituent countries of the UK. People are certainly eager not to see an incredibly successful union torn apart, pro-Union rUK folk and Scottish 'no' voters alike (who are just as desperate to stay together). I think that's fair, and you see exactly the same thing in, f.i., Catalonia -- ask a Spaniard how they feel about that; most polarising thing ever. The Spanish government as recently as last week reminded Catalans it'll block any independence vote at all costs.

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