Falco !MzQCNUfXbc started this discussion 15 years ago#363
And ask your friends: If someone were to create some sort of fanbase that was like the furry fandom, but without drama whores, scumbags, attention whores, disgusting fetishes, and the other unsavory things often associated with furrydom, would you be interested?
Another perk is that one wouldn't have to identify his or herself as a "furry" anymore, which tends to make people very uncomfortable if you mention it.
Simply put, it would be a community not held together by desperation and the need to belong, but rather a common interest without the bullshit. A kind of honest brotherhood, but without the dick sucking.
Starting something like this has been on my mind for about 3 years. Cause.. I just find it kind of disappointing that the only fandom presently established for this interest is kind of uh... freakish and unappealing.
Advi !!3gpAcg/hF replied with this 15 years ago, 1 second later, 10 minutes after the original post[^][v]#6,977
@6,972 (Falco !MzQCNUfXbc)
yeah, i have absolutely no idea how this would go.
a new website/chan? like a furaffinity without the faggotry?
Falco !MzQCNUfXbc (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^][v]#6,981
@previous (Advi !!3gpAcg/hF)
I'm thinking some sort of forum. Maybe a tinybbs, but I don't want to have to deal with kimmo.
Advi !!3gpAcg/hF replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^][v]#6,991
@previous (Falco !MzQCNUfXbc)
maybe a social networking kind of thing, with profiles, discussions, publishing content etc. but there would be stringent rules, i.e. no drama, no babyfur/scat fuckery, and stupid/sick fucks would be banned on sight.
RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ replied with this 15 years ago, 35 seconds later, 18 minutes after the original post[^][v]#6,993
@6,981 (Falco !MzQCNUfXbc)
I'd like a TinyBBS
Anything else just isn't as good!
Falco !MzQCNUfXbc (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 19 minutes after the original post[^][v]#6,995
@6,991 (Advi !!3gpAcg/hF)
That's actually a good idea, would be complex to make but still a good idea.
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this too but
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Advi !!3gpAcg/hF replied with this 15 years ago, 25 minutes later, 50 minutes after the original post[^][v]#7,049
@previous (Falco !MzQCNUfXbc)
thing is though the furry fandom is naturally inclined to having a sense of identity and community, i still think a more FA-esque site is better
Falco !MzQCNUfXbc (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#7,062
@previous (Advi !!3gpAcg/hF)
Yeah. People really do like showing their fursonas and what they like and stuff.
Advi !!3gpAcg/hF replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#7,073
@previous (Falco !MzQCNUfXbc)
Yeah, lol. The line has to be drawn though; creepy or pathetic behavior wouldn't be permitted, i.e. faggots like allan and dracoguard would be banned.
Falco !MzQCNUfXbc (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#7,084
@previous (Advi !!3gpAcg/hF)
Lots of references on ED for model bad behavior. :P
Advi !!3gpAcg/hF replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#7,090
@previous (Falco !MzQCNUfXbc)
Lol very true
should we find a place to collaborate with this on?
RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#7,105
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 47 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,193
Internet Furries with Utmost Respect (IFUR)
If you are anything like me, you just cannot stand people who just don't seem to respect furries in general. Since, on the Internet, text is (normally) all you've got to express yourself, it makes a lot of sense to care about who you respect. Unfortunately, at the time of writing, extremely few people do. One can hardly hope for this to ever change into "everyone", "most people" or even "the majority", but hopefully from the current "almost nobody" to "quite a few".
IFUR is a "secret" club/resistance for those of us who still "respect" in general. There is no membership fee and there is no need to sign up for anything. After reading this page, you simply decide mentally whether or not you want to "be in". That's it! (Most likely, you will not have to do much, if anything, differently if you agree.)
If you are respectful, you agree to the following:
* Always use correct terminology and image macros as your current knowledge allows you to, even in real-time chat sessions, no matter who you are talking to, regardless of any "peer pressure".
* Constantly strive to stop the fursecution and never settle for "good enough".
* Unless it will get you in trouble, try to correct people who are abusing other furries as often as possible. Beware that many operators in chats will kick or even ban you for doing this.
If enough people start respecting furries, the Internet may become usable again. It may seem hopeless, but you should still do your part. Don't be a sheep!
So why should you respect furries? The real question, at least in a sane world, would be more like this: "Why should you not respect us?" Have you ever felt the satisfaction of doing something right? Knowing that you are pushing yourself to the limit of your capabilities? It's quite addictive, and once you stop the fursecution, you will soon see it as something completely natural and become unable to go back to drinking the haterade without actively trying! I personally have serious trouble writing hatefully.
Now ask yourself: do you have r.e.s.p.e.c.t? Find out what it means to me.
Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,196
@7,191 (totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC)
Here's one of their comics:
totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,218
@7,196 (K)
That's funny. It really reminds me of something that would be written for teenagers.
Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,222
@previous (totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC)
Well, the main consumer of it is probably gay teens...
Do you think it's "awful"?
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totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,223
@previous (K)
I think it has awful writing, but not horrible animation or perverted.
Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,225
@previous (totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC)
It, uh, has no animation, and you're not supposed to read it for the writing, though the themes certainly play a role in the eroticism of it.
totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,231
@previous (K)
Sorry, I'm high. By animation, I meant the artwork. I think that it has more to do with being a woman, then the fact that I'm not a furry. I believe that most women need more of a storyline, and are much less visual than men.
RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,238
@previous (totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC)
As a male, I far prefer story.
Unless the visuals are really really nice, like so.
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totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,242
@previous (RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ)
You always have really nice pictures.
RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,246
totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,254
@7,249 (K)
Well I was slightly confused by that scenario. Were they first time partners or had this happened before? It would be much sexier if this had been the first time, but anyway the dialogue is very forced and stilted.
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totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC double-posted this 15 years ago, 58 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,256
@7,253 (RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ)
For some reason, I have always really liked furry artwork,
Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,261
@7,254 (totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC)
I think they had done it before, as the smaller character mentioned that he had forgotten how big the horse guy's cock was.
RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,263
@7,256 (totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC)
What's not to like?
totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC replied with this 15 years ago, 12 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,264
@7,261 (K)
I thought so. It would have been much sexier as a first time scenario. Maybe a best friend who comforts his bullied chum and then get's more than he bargained for?
Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 33 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,265
@7,254 (totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC)
Anyway, it just be me, but did you like the part where Marty, the smaller character, asked the horse guy to cum for him?
totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC replied with this 15 years ago, 28 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,266
@7,263 (RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ)
There must be a lot to hate because furries seem to enrage people.
Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,267
> I thought so. It would have been much sexier as a first time scenario.
Nah, they're established characters. Hardblush usually puts Marty into scenarios where he sucks multiple cocks...
RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,268
@7,266 (totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC)
Yeah, some seem, in some way, to be more annoying than normal, and they're the loudest ones so they get the most attention.
totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC replied with this 15 years ago, 41 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,269
I actually enjoyed that part.
totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC double-posted this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,270
@7,268 (RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ)
Perhaps, but I'm not sure. Furries tend to make people angrier than most other sexual orientations or fetishes.
Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,271
@previous (totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC)
It's just silly teenage boys who need a sense of belonging so they hate a "safe to hate" group. It instills a feeling of bonding to describe ways that they'd kill furries to each other. Group bonding by hating a "common enemy." You see the same effect with boy bands. Look at the enmity that Hanson and Justin Bieber have engendered.
RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ replied with this 15 years ago, 16 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,272
@7,270 (totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC)
Because they're actually very loud and annoying, and not really a minority. There's a lot of them.
And I think there's also a relatively large portion of extreme fetishists in the furry group, as well. Not a great image.
RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ double-posted this 15 years ago, 40 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,273
totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,276
@7,271 (K)
That was very insightful. I also think that because of the nature of their attraction, they seem less scary, nor likely to be dangerous.
totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC double-posted this 15 years ago, 36 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,277
@7,272 (RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ)
What are extreme fetishists?
RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,280
@previous (totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC)
Those that stack uncommon and, some would say, odd fetishes and combine them with fur.
Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,282
@7,276 (totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC)
True, they're easy targets. They're outside the norm--visibly different and don't conform to any sort of norm or gender role. Most likely gay and the haters probably have the idea that they're weak and effeminate. Since they are so different, it would be easy to classify them as "THEM" in an "Us vs. Them" scenario.
Anonymous K double-posted this 15 years ago, 25 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,284
@7,280 (RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ)
Like inflation and obese dragons?
RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,287
totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC replied with this 15 years ago, 9 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,288
@7,280 (RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ)
Those guys are do funny! I saw one man whose fetishes included babyfur, dirt and saggy diapers, rubber, and melting. His fursona was a blue bear cub who wore a saggy diaper. This character is was made of rubber and melting, he even got a tattoo of said character.
RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,290
@previous (totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC)
Yeah, that's what I was talking about.
totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,293
@previous (RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ)
I find people like that to be amazing. It really shows how strange human sexuality really is.
Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 39 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,295
@previous (totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC)
What do you like as far as that stuff goes?
RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,298
@7,293 (totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC)
But instead of being left to their of devices, they're targets for the bored haters.
totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,305
@previous (RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ)
That really bothers me. Furry is one of the safest fetishes that exist.
totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,308
@7,295 (K)
Are you asking me about which fetishes I think are interesting, or are you asking me what my fetishes are?
Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 46 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,309
totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,325
@previous (K)
Isn't it great?! Oh, and to answer your other question, I have a major tickling fetish. I frequently masturbate to tickling videos, but I never do that with type of porn.
Falco !MzQCNUfXbc (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 20 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,326
What happened to my thread? lol
totoforhire !!hWKWsQ1mC replied with this 15 years ago, 31 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,327
Falco !MzQCNUfXbc (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,333
I think the biggest problem is people being too open about their fetishes. You can't really control what turns you on the most, but it's not very difficult to keep it to yourself. Because the worst part is when people [usually furries] get upset because people don't understand their fetishes. It's pretty immature.
Advi !!3gpAcg/hF replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,334
@previous (Falco !MzQCNUfXbc)
That's pretty true. Using it as a form of self-identification is kinda stupid.
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Falco !MzQCNUfXbc (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,335
@previous (Advi !!3gpAcg/hF)
Exactly! They use it to freakin identify themselves! Like it's some sort of badge of honor.
I for one believe in self expression, but sometimes it just makes more sense to keep certain things to yourself.
Advi !!3gpAcg/hF replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,336
@previous (Falco !MzQCNUfXbc)
Question is how it will be possible to create a fanbase/community where that isn't the case? It seems inherently illogical...
Falco !MzQCNUfXbc (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,337
@previous (Advi !!3gpAcg/hF)
I honestly have no idea. It would have to work like a collaborative immune system of like-minded people.
Advi !!3gpAcg/hF replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,339
@previous (Falco !MzQCNUfXbc)
The main problem though, is that if we discourage identifying yourself as a furry, who the hell are we going to make a fanbase out of?
It seems the only logical choice would be to abandon it entirely and form a new fanbase, but what it would be centered around is the question. Most furries are simply weak-minded attention whores, they want to fit into a safe to hate group, like anonymous potassium said
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Falco !MzQCNUfXbc (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,342
@previous (Advi !!3gpAcg/hF)
Yeah. There should be like, a new word for it. The name of the community and it's members should sound nice... and fresh. Not something suspicious like "furry". Believe me, the first time I heard that word I was really, really concerned.
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Advi !!3gpAcg/hF replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,343
@previous (Falco !MzQCNUfXbc)
Agreed a hundred percent. This is probably going to take a lot of work to figure out.
RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#7,345
> Because the worst part is when people [usually furries] get upset because people don't understand their fetishes.
I think it's because they don't think of their sexual attraction as a "fetish." They see what they perceive as beautiful and sexy and wonderful and they want to share it. By sharing it, they think others will see the inherent beauty of it and become just as enamored by it.
Falco !MzQCNUfXbc (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 56 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#10,238
@previous (K)
This is true. It's VERY ignorant and selfish for someone think that way.
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#10,241
@previous (Falco !MzQCNUfXbc) @10,182 (K)
So what then is a fetish?
Falco !MzQCNUfXbc (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#10,245
It's a specific thing that is sexually arousing to certain people... It doesn't mean the world has to know what it is.
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#10,253
@previous (Falco !MzQCNUfXbc) > I think it's because they don't think of their sexual attraction as a "fetish." They see what they perceive as beautiful and sexy and wonderful and they want to share it. By sharing it, they think others will see the inherent beauty of it and become just as enamored by it.
Is this not true for all fetishes?
advi !!3gpAcg/hF joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#10,264
@previous (I)
Pretty much, lol.
It's easy to see how this is particularly annoying; furfaggots are hated by everyone because they're attention whoring drama queens, so they have a whiny persecution complex, so they feel the need to become a community, where the less retarded furfags are sucked in.
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Falco !MzQCNUfXbc (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#10,269
@10,253 (I)
Uh.. some people are capable of understanding that beauty is subjective.
advi !!3gpAcg/hF replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#10,275
@previous (Falco !MzQCNUfXbc)
seems like the goal is to create a community that tolerates absolutely nothing that makes the furry fandom the shitpile it is.
so long as it gets done thoroughly, that's hardly a challenge.
Falco !MzQCNUfXbc (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#10,277