Topic: I am now a communist and an admirer of Tito's Yugoslavia.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY started this discussion 12 years ago #36,111
Thanks, fora.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 35 seconds later[^] [v] #494,177
kill yourself
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 18 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #494,178
The point of communism is that it results from the withering away of the state, so being a statist and a communist is self-contradictory thanks.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 34 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #494,181
As in Surfshack Tito?
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Dr. !aL1sLG5aP6 joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #494,182
Eastern European Marxism is fundamentally flawed, as explained in Ko Pong's Guiding Light of Destiny:
History extracts due payment from those who abandon faith. This is proved by the
present realities in the former Soviet Union and the socialist countries of Eastern
Europe, where socialism, which was built at the expense of the blood, sweat and tears
of preceding generations, crumbled overnight, leaving the people floundering in a
society mired in unemployment, poverty, corruption, debauchery, crimes and narcotics.
This is the result of their forsaking faith in the future, faith in the struggle to lead a life
worthy of humankind.
Only if man relies on a scientific and revolutionary philosophy can he adopt a
correct world-view and have the conviction that he will emerge victorious in the
struggle to carve out his own destiny.
There has been a resurgence of interest in philosophy in recent times. This is
because in the 1 990s the limitations of Marxism-Leninism were exposed with the
collapse of distorted socialism in the East European countries, and independent
thinking was sought for a way out.
Now we have a philosophy complying with this requirement: the man-centred
Juche philosophy, the political philosophy that "The People are my God." The
philosophical outlook of Juche is the faith that one must keep steadfast in the struggle
for a society where people can lead a life worthy of humankind; it is also the torchlight
of struggle that guides one to carve out one's destiny.
Serving as the guiding light of human destiny, the Juche world-view elucidates the great truth that man is the master of his own destiny and that he has the power to carve
out his own destiny.
History extracts due payment from those who abandon faith. This is proved by the
present realities in the former Soviet Union and the socialist countries of Eastern
Europe, where socialism, which was built at the expense of the blood, sweat and tears
of preceding generations, crumbled overnight, leaving the people floundering in a
society mired in unemployment, poverty, corruption, debauchery, crimes and narcotics.
This is the result of their forsaking faith in the future, faith in the struggle to lead a life
worthy of humankind.
Only if man relies on a scientific and revolutionary philosophy can he adopt a
correct world-view and have the conviction that he will emerge victorious in the
struggle to carve out his own destiny.
There has been a resurgence of interest in philosophy in recent times. This is
because in the 1 990s the limitations of Marxism-Leninism were exposed with the
collapse of distorted socialism in the East European countries, and independent
thinking was sought for a way out.
Now we have a philosophy complying with this requirement: the man-centred
Juche philosophy, the political philosophy that "The People are my God." The
philosophical outlook of Juche is the faith that one must keep steadfast in the struggle
for a society where people can lead a life worthy of humankind; it is also the torchlight
of struggle that guides one to carve out one's destiny.
Serving as the guiding light of human destiny, the Juche world-view elucidates the great truth that man is the master of his own destiny and that he has the power to carve
out his own destiny.
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HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 12 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #494,241
@494,178 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Whatever. It's a better term than national socialist. And Tito does an authoritative socialist regime well, WITHOUT any of that hideous genocide stuff.
Whatever. It's a better term than national socialist. And Tito does an authoritative socialist regime well, WITHOUT any of that hideous genocide stuff.
Metæ joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #494,256
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 51 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #494,266
Metæ replied with this 12 years ago, 12 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #494,269
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)There's always Franco, he did Fascism without genocide or being in the Axis. Although, for my money, Peron is the best Fascist dictator of all.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #494,270
@previous (Metæ)
In my view Yugoslavia was a peaceful, prosperous third position society. I wouldn't call it Fascism given that Fascism in Yugoslavia refers to, well, Ustase butchers, but it wasn't exactly a pure communist state, and Tito refused to join the Soviet state in international communism, and it had market socialism. Yugoslavia, a nation born from fascism and genocide, and died a nation of fascism and genocide. Quite a strange little history.
In my view Yugoslavia was a peaceful, prosperous third position society. I wouldn't call it Fascism given that Fascism in Yugoslavia refers to, well, Ustase butchers, but it wasn't exactly a pure communist state, and Tito refused to join the Soviet state in international communism, and it had market socialism. Yugoslavia, a nation born from fascism and genocide, and died a nation of fascism and genocide. Quite a strange little history.
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Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 28 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #494,271
@494,256 (Metæ)
Mussolini was a visionary. His brand of fascism was much more adaptable and flexible than Hitler's dogmatic, exclusive ideology, which is what the average person thinks when they hear the word "fascism"
My favorite fascist is Codreanu though!
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
As opposed to Cetnik butchers? Yugoslavia was a bad idea from start, a time bomb. Only multiethnic state that can function properly without large doses of oppression is Switzerland.
Mussolini was a visionary. His brand of fascism was much more adaptable and flexible than Hitler's dogmatic, exclusive ideology, which is what the average person thinks when they hear the word "fascism"
My favorite fascist is Codreanu though!
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
As opposed to Cetnik butchers? Yugoslavia was a bad idea from start, a time bomb. Only multiethnic state that can function properly without large doses of oppression is Switzerland.