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Topic: Will a full black man ever be elected president?

Anonymous A started this discussion 12 years ago #36,066

Obama is half white.
Poll option Votes Percentage Graph
Yes. 2 40%
No. 1 20%
Sprite. 1 20%
Boners. 1 20%

dw !jdTkvovFCQ joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 9 minutes later[^] [v] #493,602

there are black presidents

Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #493,603

If the right guy came along I think it could happen eventually. Racism is quickly becoming a thing of the past in the US.

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HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #493,606

@previous (Ks !KansasxqvM)
> Racism is quickly becoming a thing of the past in the US.
Sure thing.

Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #493,608

@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Cultural changes take time. The further back in time you go the more prevalent racism is. If the trend continues it is only a matter of time. There's no reason to thing the trend will change.

HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #493,612

@previous (Ks !KansasxqvM)
I see the opposite in my area. I have found people here saying shit I would never dare say just a few years ago. This feels like a different sort of racism. A resentment towards the blacks who refuse to be civilized or lift a goddamn finger to help in society, while moving out of their shit zones and into ours, like a sort of tumor that must be excised or else the entire Detroit area will fall.

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #493,617

Arent most American blacks, part white?

Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #493,621

@493,612 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Detroit was doomed when the auto industry pulled out. Think of all the former mining towns (gold, silver, copper etc) that are ghost towns now. It's the same concept only on a larger scale. Blaming the blacks is just scapegoating. All over the world poor areas are dirty and dangerous, race has nothing to do with it. Racism has played a role in keeping blacks poor for a long time though, things are getting better but there's still a lone way to go.

Unless something comes in to Detroit to replace the auto industry (nothing will) Detroit is gonna experience a large downsizing. Surely people more informed and educated than me have already written about this inevitability extensively.

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ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 8 minutes later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #493,625

@previous (Ks !KansasxqvM)
Gold/Silver towns went bust because the the gold and silver ran out. Hiroshima was nuked ffs and was rebuilt, when the auto industry left the city could have evolved especially as it was a US city but liberals and blacks saw to that. Blaming blacks might only be scapegoating to those who can't see the truth due to propaganda and fear of being called a racist

HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #493,627

@493,621 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
> Detroit was doomed when the auto industry pulled out.
They didn't pull out so much as they moved to the suburbs. Unless you're talking about NAFTA and that was done way after Detroit went to shit from the riot.
> Think of all the former mining towns (gold, silver, copper etc) that are ghost towns now. It's the same concept only on a larger scale.
Not really. The white mining towns are quite peaceful but the drinking and meth use is a problem but not nearly like that of the ghettoes full of crack addicts.
> Blaming the blacks is just scapegoating.
They make it so easy by behaving like monstrous degenerates. Violent scum with no reason for their existence. And we get to pay for it all in our taxes while leftists try to make us feel guilty for the sins committed by the rich southerners. Almost like the Israelis when they moved into Palestine and took it over while screeching about the goddamn Holocaust. Damn them.
> All over the world poor areas are dirty and dangerous, race has nothing to do with it.
I've got relatives in the appalachian mountains and while they may be dirt poor, I felt no danger at all. Blacks, on the other hand, cannot resist shooting each other and white people.
> Racism has played a role in keeping blacks poor for a long time though, things are getting better but there's still a lone way to go.
Yeah how awful of us to let them into the city, work good jobs and then riot over stupid bullshit and kick us out of our own city.
> Unless something comes in to Detroit to replace the auto industry (nothing will) Detroit is gonna experience a large downsizing. Surely people more informed and educated than me have already written about this inevitability extensively.
Then again, we hold a strategic point when it comes to the upcoming water shortage. The Motor City will be the Water City.

Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 12 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #493,647

@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Country poor and city poor are different breeds. I should have used the word slums, slums all over the world are very similar regardless of race or culture.

I don't live in Detroit or claim to know that much about the entire situation, but I do think it's naive to blame race. Black culture could definitely be blamed for some stuff though.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #493,657

@previous (Ks !KansasxqvM)
This. Environmental influences are to blame, here. I think I recall that Walter himself admitted as much, even, when I asked him if he thought that a black kid raised in some middle-class suburb would turn out okay.

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 50 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #493,659

@493,617 (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
Yes. If you want a pure black, better go to Africa

HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #493,661

@493,647 (Ks !KansasxqvM)

> Country poor and city poor are different breeds. I should have used the word slums, slums all over the world are very similar regardless of race or culture.
Well I guess so. Chavs and slavs ain't much better now that I think about it.
> I don't live in Detroit or claim to know that much about the entire situation, but I do think it's naive to blame race. Black culture could definitely be blamed for some stuff though.
@493,657 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Often they succumb to wigger bullshit. It's their culture I despise and if not for it they'd be the best Americans because they actually stand up for themselves. But sadly the Jews in media poisoned them.

Metæ joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #493,662

Eventually, yes. Though as Kook said, the idea of a "full black" man (or a full white man, for that matter), is a dicey proposition in the great melting pot of America. Virtually everyone has some admixture, and I think that's a good thing: with no genetic diversity we'll end up like the Amish, all inbred and diseased.

HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #493,663

@previous (Metæ)
And we have tons of interbreeding within whites too.

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #493,664

@493,662 (Metæ)
Have you looked up some of the problems in the Amish because of this? Holy shit, its disgusting.

Metæ replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #493,666

@493,663 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Of course, intra-racial ethnicity becomes meaningless after a few generations of intermarriage amd assimilation. In fact what is a white? Are Spaniards white? Are Turks? What about Albanians? Iranians ought to be, since they were the original Aryans. Historically, the Irish weren't considered white in this country, but now they are. Race is a concept which falls apart with the slightest scrutiny.

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 12 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #493,668

@previous (Metæ)
Dont tell our resident tumblr warrior such things. It might make him faint.

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 12 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #493,708

@493,666 (Metæ)
Historically "white" refers to europeans, with some parts being excluded from the category depending on the time(southern iberians & italians, balkans and slavs et al)

The word "aryan" never meant what it means today(pure bred white people), it was twisted by shithead English antropologues obsessed with this kind of theory. Aryan would be any people descended from the original Indo-European people who were from the southern Russian steppe, including iranians, northern indians, afghans and most europeans. By that definition, the basques, finns, hungarians wouldn't be aryan, despite being overwhelmingly white, while you could say that a pashtun or kurd is aryan, but not white.

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 hours later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #493,727

@493,603 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
.................... Ks come on

Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 12 years ago, 11 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #493,733

@previous (K)
I'm open to the idea that I could be wrong, but IME there are less openly racist people today than there was 20 years ago even. I think the fact a half black man was able to be elected POTUS speaks volumes about the state of racism. Does anyone believe that would have been possible in the 60's or 70's? IMO the tide has turned against racism, sexism, and bigotry in general, though all three will likely always exist to some extant and certainly still exist today.

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Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #493,758

@previous (Ks !KansasxqvM)
Class has become a stand in for race and it is commonly used to turn middle class people against working poor. On the face it is not racism but black and brown people are strongly held back from equal opportunity and protection

Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #493,777

@OP
Yeah, this half-black president stuff is nothing new. We've had mulatto US presidents since Jefferson!
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