Topic: some thoughts on gary oldman & slurs
stella started this discussion 12 years ago #35,276
gary oldman ranted about political correctness in an interview with playboy today. i just felt like discussing it because it kind of pisses me offhttp://variety.com/2014/film/news/gary-oldman-blasts-liberal-hollywood-defends-mel-gibson-and-alec-baldwin-1201243936/
> Gary Oldman has blasted Hollywood for what he perceives as a double standard — asserting that Bill Maher and Jon Stewart can get away with politically incorrect humor while others like Mel Gibson and Alec Baldwin cannot.
> The profanity-laced statements are included in an interview with the July-August issue of Playboy. The most explosive part of the interview includes attacks on Maher, Stewart and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, following his declaration that political correctness is “crap.”
> “Well, if I called Nancy Pelosi a c* — and I’ll go one better, a f** useless c* — I can’t really say that. But Bill Maher and Jon Stewart can, and nobody’s going to stop them from working because of it. Bill Maher could call someone a fag and get away with it. He said to Seth MacFarlane this year, ‘I thought you were going to do the Oscars again. Instead they got a lesbian.’ He can say something like that. Is that more or less offensive than Alec Baldwin saying to someone in the street, ‘You fag’? I don’t get it.”
colbert recently got into hot water for "satirically" mocking the asian language so i don't know if his point holds up.
however, i agree that just because someone is in the hip liberal entertainer circle or w/e doesn't mean they're free from the consequences of their words. bill maher and jon stewart can fucking go to hell, but that's an entirely different rant
> “Mel Gibson is in a town that’s run by Jews, and he said the wrong thing because he’s actually bitten the hand that I guess has fed him – and doesn’t need to feed him anymore because he’s got enough dough,” Oldman said. “He’s like an outcast, a leper, you know?”
i don't even know what he's referring to at this point. "town that's run by jews"? could someone enlighten me as to what he's talking about? i know gibson has said some shitty things in the past but is there a recent occurrence of him making anti-semetic remarks?
> “I don’t know about Mel. He got drunk and said a few things, but we’ve all said those things,” the actor told Playboy during the interview, which began with a discussion of Oldman’s role in “Dawn of Planet of the Apes.”
drunkenness isn't an excuse for anything
> “We’re all f** hypocrites,” he added. “That’s what I think about it. The policeman who arrested him has never used the word n* or that f** Jew?”
irrelevant
> “I’m being brutally honest here,” Oldman said. “It’s the hypocrisy of it that drives me crazy.”
> Oldman also defended Baldwin’s use of homophobic language: “Alec calling someone an F-A-G in the street while he’s pissed off coming out of his building because they won’t leave him alone. I don’t blame him. So they persecute.”
so using slurs is okay when you're really pissed off? okay
well whatever, just wanted to go through what he said. imo, "political correctness" is a bogeyman people like to whine about because it frees them from actually having to think about the nature of what they said and why it's upsetting people.
The Captain !PundosRBSM joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 9 minutes later[^] [v] #485,556
Boo-hoo, no one cares about celebrity opinions.stella (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #485,557
The Captain !PundosRBSM replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #485,558
@previous (stella)You said his quote about the policeman was irrelevant, when in reality his entire statement is irrelevant.
stella (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 45 seconds later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #485,559
The Captain !PundosRBSM replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #485,560
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Dw dragon ltd joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #485,563
yeah Colbert has been in hot water a bunch of times this year
He's wrong the only place he was right
There has been a recent shift into criticizing harmful satire like Ellen's Ghana joke and Colbert playing devils advocate with Janet mock
the rest sounds like a typical midlife actor crisis crazy Hollywood-Jew rant
the captain is a little right, it's not surprising
He's wrong the only place he was right
There has been a recent shift into criticizing harmful satire like Ellen's Ghana joke and Colbert playing devils advocate with Janet mock
the rest sounds like a typical midlife actor crisis crazy Hollywood-Jew rant
the captain is a little right, it's not surprising
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 11 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #485,633
Bill Maher, Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert all have television programs and they essentially are playing characters; especially Colbert whose entire show is parody.
I haven't heard of them (besides Maher) actually being assholes irl.
I haven't heard of them (besides Maher) actually being assholes irl.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 10 hours later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #485,720
ive never called someone a nigger out of malice (there are way better insults) and i dont know any jewish people to use "those fuckin jews!!"
so he's wrong about that
so he's wrong about that
Anonymous F double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #485,721
also this, isnt gary oldman english? where does he get the right to criticize people of another country? is he a citizen? no? he should probably shut the fuck up then and be in some good movies, he hasnt been in one for approaching 15 years
Anonymous E replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #485,737
@previous (F)
he already apologized though the jews are unlikely to forgive
also, what, in your opinion, was the last good movie he was in?
he already apologized though the jews are unlikely to forgive
also, what, in your opinion, was the last good movie he was in?
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@485,737 (E)
> he already apologized though the jews are unlikely to forgive
> also, what, in your opinion, was the last good movie he was in?
fifth element
> he already apologized though the jews are unlikely to forgive
> also, what, in your opinion, was the last good movie he was in?
fifth element
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lol OP is in asspain
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