Topic: Global waring is a myth.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 started this discussion 12 years ago #35,239
Thanks to Syntax's satellites we can now prove that global warming is a myth and any strange weather pattens you might see is just that "weather" Here are some fact...MYTH 1: Global temperatures are rising at a rapid, unprecedented rate.
FACT: Accurate satellite, balloon and mountain top observations made over the last three decades have not shown any significant change in the long term rate of increase in global temperatures. Average ground station readings do show a mild warming of 0.6 to 0.8Cover the last 100 years, which is well within the natural variations recorded in the last millennium. The ground station network suffers from an uneven distribution across the globe; the stations are preferentially located in growing urban and industrial areas ("heat islands"), which show substantially higher readings than adjacent rural areas ("land use effects").
There has been no catastrophic warming recorded.
MYTH 2: The "hockey stick" graph proves that the earth has experienced a steady, very gradual temperature increase for 1000 years, then recently began a sudden increase.
FACT: Significant changes in climate have continually occurred throughout geologic time. For instance, the Medieval Warm Period, from around 1000 to1200 AD (when the Vikings farmed on Greenland) was followed by a period known as the Little Ice Age. Since the end of the 17th Century the "average global temperature" has been rising at the low steady rate mentioned above; although from 1940 – 1970 temperatures actually dropped, leading to a Global Cooling scare.
The "hockey stick", a poster boy of both the UN's IPCC and Canada's Environment Department, ignores historical recorded climatic swings, and has now also been proven to be flawed and statistically unreliable as well. It is a computer construct and a faulty one at that.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 26 seconds later[^] [v] #484,953
MYTH 3: Human produced carbon dioxide has increased over the last 100 years, adding to the Greenhouse effect, thus warming the earth.
FACT: Carbon dioxide levels have indeed changed for various reasons, human and otherwise, just as they have throughout geologic time. Since the beginning of the industrial revolution, the CO2 content of the atmosphere has increased. The RATE of growth during this period has also increased from about 0.2% per year to the present rate of about 0.4% per year,which growth rate has now been constant for the past 25 years. However, there is no proof that CO2 is the main driver of global warming. As measured in ice cores dated over many thousands of years, CO2 levels move up and down AFTER the temperature has done so, and thus are the RESULT OF, NOT THE CAUSE of warming. Geological field work in recent sediments confirms this causal relationship. There is solid evidence that, as temperatures move up and down naturally and cyclically through solar radiation, orbital and galactic influences, the warming surface layers of the earth's oceans expel more CO2 as a result.
MYTH 4: CO2 is the most common greenhouse gas.
FACT: Greenhouse gases form about 3 % of the atmosphere by volume. They consist of varying amounts, (about 97%) of water vapour and clouds, with the remainder being gases like CO2, CH4, Ozone and N2O, of which carbon dioxide is the largest amount. Hence, CO2 constitutes about 0.037% of the atmosphere. While the minor gases are more effective as "greenhouse agents" than water vapour and clouds, the latter are overwhelming the effect by their sheer volume and – in the end – are thought to be responsible for 60% of the "Greenhouse effect".
Those attributing climate change to CO2 rarely mention this important fact.
FACT: Carbon dioxide levels have indeed changed for various reasons, human and otherwise, just as they have throughout geologic time. Since the beginning of the industrial revolution, the CO2 content of the atmosphere has increased. The RATE of growth during this period has also increased from about 0.2% per year to the present rate of about 0.4% per year,which growth rate has now been constant for the past 25 years. However, there is no proof that CO2 is the main driver of global warming. As measured in ice cores dated over many thousands of years, CO2 levels move up and down AFTER the temperature has done so, and thus are the RESULT OF, NOT THE CAUSE of warming. Geological field work in recent sediments confirms this causal relationship. There is solid evidence that, as temperatures move up and down naturally and cyclically through solar radiation, orbital and galactic influences, the warming surface layers of the earth's oceans expel more CO2 as a result.
MYTH 4: CO2 is the most common greenhouse gas.
FACT: Greenhouse gases form about 3 % of the atmosphere by volume. They consist of varying amounts, (about 97%) of water vapour and clouds, with the remainder being gases like CO2, CH4, Ozone and N2O, of which carbon dioxide is the largest amount. Hence, CO2 constitutes about 0.037% of the atmosphere. While the minor gases are more effective as "greenhouse agents" than water vapour and clouds, the latter are overwhelming the effect by their sheer volume and – in the end – are thought to be responsible for 60% of the "Greenhouse effect".
Those attributing climate change to CO2 rarely mention this important fact.
The Captain !PundosRBSM joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 26 seconds later, 52 seconds after the original post[^] [v] #484,954
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MYTH 5: Computer models verify that CO2 increases will cause significant global warming.
FACT: Computer models can be made to "verify" anything by changing some of the 5 million input parameters or any of a multitude of negative and positive feedbacks in the program used.. They do not "prove" anything. Also, computer models predicting global warming are incapable of properly including the effects of the sun, cosmic rays and the clouds. The sun is a major cause of temperature variation on the earth surface as its received radiation changes all the time, This happens largely in cyclical fashion. The number and the lengths in time of sunspots can be correlated very closely with average temperatures on earth, e.g. the Little Ice Age and the Medieval Warm Period. Varying intensity of solar heat radiation affects the surface temperature of the oceans and the currents. Warmer ocean water expels gases, some of which are CO2. Solar radiation interferes with the cosmic ray flux, thus influencing the amount ionized nuclei which control cloud cover.
MYTH 6: The UN proved that man–made CO2 causes global warming.
FACT: In a 1996 report by the UN on global warming, two statements were deleted from the final draft. Here they are:
1) “None of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence that we can attribute the observed climate changes to increases in greenhouse gases.”
2) “No study to date has positively attributed all or part of the climate change to man–made causes”
To the present day there is still no scientific proof that man-made CO2 causes significant global warming.
FACT: Computer models can be made to "verify" anything by changing some of the 5 million input parameters or any of a multitude of negative and positive feedbacks in the program used.. They do not "prove" anything. Also, computer models predicting global warming are incapable of properly including the effects of the sun, cosmic rays and the clouds. The sun is a major cause of temperature variation on the earth surface as its received radiation changes all the time, This happens largely in cyclical fashion. The number and the lengths in time of sunspots can be correlated very closely with average temperatures on earth, e.g. the Little Ice Age and the Medieval Warm Period. Varying intensity of solar heat radiation affects the surface temperature of the oceans and the currents. Warmer ocean water expels gases, some of which are CO2. Solar radiation interferes with the cosmic ray flux, thus influencing the amount ionized nuclei which control cloud cover.
MYTH 6: The UN proved that man–made CO2 causes global warming.
FACT: In a 1996 report by the UN on global warming, two statements were deleted from the final draft. Here they are:
1) “None of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence that we can attribute the observed climate changes to increases in greenhouse gases.”
2) “No study to date has positively attributed all or part of the climate change to man–made causes”
To the present day there is still no scientific proof that man-made CO2 causes significant global warming.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 53 seconds later, 2 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #484,956
@484,954 (The Captain !PundosRBSM)
That's fine. Just believe in what the liberal media tell you is true.
That's fine. Just believe in what the liberal media tell you is true.
The Captain !PundosRBSM replied with this 12 years ago, 54 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #484,957
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putting fact in front of something makes it true
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Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 51 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #484,966
Didn't read OP's shit, just came to say that "Global Warming" is not of concern to anybody with a functional brain.
Yes, "Global Warming" is the phrase that the uneducated use for the phenomenon of global climate change which is actually happening constantly and is non-debatable fact. Did humans do this? Probably not, we are nothing in the face of nature.
Yes, "Global Warming" is the phrase that the uneducated use for the phenomenon of global climate change which is actually happening constantly and is non-debatable fact. Did humans do this? Probably not, we are nothing in the face of nature.
Metæ joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 8 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #484,967
What happened to the Medieval Warm Period from '91 to '01?Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #484,968
Anonymous F replied with this 12 years ago, 42 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #484,970
@484,967 (Metæ)
The guy drawing the chart must have slipped on the spilled coffee on his desk so his pen hand jerked up all of a sudden and then he said to himself "oh, way cool! A hockey stick I am leaving it!"
It certainly couldn't be true or anything.
The guy drawing the chart must have slipped on the spilled coffee on his desk so his pen hand jerked up all of a sudden and then he said to himself "oh, way cool! A hockey stick I am leaving it!"
It certainly couldn't be true or anything.
base dew ltd joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 22 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #484,971
99.9% of scientists are Jew-brainwashed sheep like if u agree
Metæ replied with this 12 years ago, 21 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #484,974
@484,970 (F)
Of course. Maybe the Medieval Warm Period was an illusion or someone drew the graph wrong or they did better science in the intervening decade. Cause it's not like, you know, that graph represented the scientific consensus in 1990 or anything.
Of course. Maybe the Medieval Warm Period was an illusion or someone drew the graph wrong or they did better science in the intervening decade. Cause it's not like, you know, that graph represented the scientific consensus in 1990 or anything.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 13 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #485,010
@OP
http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/17695/did-the-arctic-ice-sheet-grow-by-60-from-2012-to-2013
http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/17695/did-the-arctic-ice-sheet-grow-by-60-from-2012-to-2013