Topic: Rape cannot be objectively wrong
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 started this discussion 12 years ago #35,079
If there is no god then rape can't be objectively wrong as it happens in the animal kingdom.
Check mate atheists
Check mate liberals
Check mate feminists
Check mate atheists
Check mate liberals
Check mate feminists
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #483,111
you'd like that, you weirdo
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #483,112
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I'm not for rape, I'm point out the flaws in atheist, liberal and feminist logic.
I'm not for rape, I'm point out the flaws in atheist, liberal and feminist logic.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #483,113
There is no god and yet this thread is objectively stupid. Checkmate theists.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #483,114
@483,112 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
Allright, I'll go along with your nonsense for a bit.
Why does something occurring in the animal kingdom make it okay? Is this the only factor, in the absence of a god, which decided whether or not something is okay?
Allright, I'll go along with your nonsense for a bit.
Why does something occurring in the animal kingdom make it okay? Is this the only factor, in the absence of a god, which decided whether or not something is okay?
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 11 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #483,115
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #483,116
@483,114 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
It makes it netural. The lack of god means a lack of morality so we can't really say if rape is good or bad unless something uber to humans tells us it's wrong.
It makes it netural. The lack of god means a lack of morality so we can't really say if rape is good or bad unless something uber to humans tells us it's wrong.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #483,117
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
I think that the victims would disagree with your assertion that it is a neutral act.
But okay, if a lack of some omnipotent being forcing a morality system on us makes everything acceptable, then what about murder? Or cannibalism? Those happen in nature too. Do you also think that these are "not objectively wrong"? You're also saying that humans are comparable to animals, which is hardly the best comparison.
I think that the victims would disagree with your assertion that it is a neutral act.
But okay, if a lack of some omnipotent being forcing a morality system on us makes everything acceptable, then what about murder? Or cannibalism? Those happen in nature too. Do you also think that these are "not objectively wrong"? You're also saying that humans are comparable to animals, which is hardly the best comparison.
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ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #483,118
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> I think that the victims would disagree with your assertion that it is a neutral act.
Ofc they would but you're just acting on emotion.
> But okay, if a lack of some omnipotent being forcing a morality system on us makes everything acceptable, then what about murder? Or cannibalism? Those happen in nature too. Do you also think that these are "not objectively wrong"? You're also saying that humans are comparable to animals, which is hardly the best comparison.
Correct, those are not objectively wrong if you're an atheist, liberal and/or a feminist
> I think that the victims would disagree with your assertion that it is a neutral act.
Ofc they would but you're just acting on emotion.
> But okay, if a lack of some omnipotent being forcing a morality system on us makes everything acceptable, then what about murder? Or cannibalism? Those happen in nature too. Do you also think that these are "not objectively wrong"? You're also saying that humans are comparable to animals, which is hardly the best comparison.
Correct, those are not objectively wrong if you're an atheist, liberal and/or a feminist
The Captain !PundosRBSM joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 15 minutes later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #483,120
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 51 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #483,122
@483,118 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
If you're going to go back to your usual grumbling about liberals, then I don't want to play. :/
If you're going to go back to your usual grumbling about liberals, then I don't want to play. :/
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #483,123
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #483,124
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #483,125
ShitArseKiller Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,126
@previous (F)
I think that it's a little bit of both. He does try to annoy people, but his rage at various minorities and "the liberals" seems to be real.
I think that it's a little bit of both. He does try to annoy people, but his rage at various minorities and "the liberals" seems to be real.
Anonymous D replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,132
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 49 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,140
@483,126 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> I think that it's a little bit of both. He does try to annoy people, but his rage at various minorities and "the liberals" seems to be real.
Do don't like my opinion so dismiss it as a troll. Life must be so simple for you
> I think that it's a little bit of both. He does try to annoy people, but his rage at various minorities and "the liberals" seems to be real.
Do don't like my opinion so dismiss it as a troll. Life must be so simple for you
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,141
@483,114 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Ooooh I want to play around with this too, just for fun. I would say, yes. If there is no God and no objective morality then the only point of life is which genes can replicate the most and the fastest. Therefore, whatever happens in the animal kingdom must be best.
Ooooh I want to play around with this too, just for fun. I would say, yes. If there is no God and no objective morality then the only point of life is which genes can replicate the most and the fastest. Therefore, whatever happens in the animal kingdom must be best.
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,142
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)> Therefore, whatever happens in the animal kingdom must be best.
Not Exactly
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,143
Given that there is no God, if a bear gets pregnant in the woods is she free to run off to South Dakota?
Anonymous F replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,144
@previous (I)
> if a bear gets pregnant in the woods is she free to run off to South Dakota?
If the bear shaves off all that hair, then yes.
> if a bear gets pregnant in the woods is she free to run off to South Dakota?
If the bear shaves off all that hair, then yes.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,146
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 31 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,148
@483,140 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
I only dismissed you as half troll. You fucking low IQ conservative scum! <3
I only dismissed you as half troll. You fucking low IQ conservative scum! <3
Metæ joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,160
@OP
But homosexuality and race mixing occur in the animal world, too. So are those value-neutral as well?
But homosexuality and race mixing occur in the animal world, too. So are those value-neutral as well?
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 replied with this 12 years ago, 17 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,163
@previous (Metæ)
Proof that liberals, atheists and feminists cherry pick their morals. Those who race mix, are homo and are against god should also rape or view rape as netural as they have no moral foundation.
Proof that liberals, atheists and feminists cherry pick their morals. Those who race mix, are homo and are against god should also rape or view rape as netural as they have no moral foundation.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 2 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,169
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
In what way is he cherry picking?
Aren't you the one who is cherry picking by accepting the behaviour of animals to justify one thing, and then rejecting it for justification of behaviour that you do not approve of?
In what way is he cherry picking?
Aren't you the one who is cherry picking by accepting the behaviour of animals to justify one thing, and then rejecting it for justification of behaviour that you do not approve of?
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 replied with this 12 years ago, 12 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,170
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Look, it's quite simple. Evolution has shown that humans are all animals so what is netural in the animal Kingdom is netural for humans UNLESS you accept there is a God from where your morals stem from. You can't cherry pick what is right or wrong when all you're doing is part of nature.
Look, it's quite simple. Evolution has shown that humans are all animals so what is netural in the animal Kingdom is netural for humans UNLESS you accept there is a God from where your morals stem from. You can't cherry pick what is right or wrong when all you're doing is part of nature.
The Captain !PundosRBSM replied with this 12 years ago, 9 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,171
Ash !bbKEtchUp. joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 5 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,172
> netural
> netural
> netural
> You can't cherry pick what is right or wrong even though I'm claiming that you have a subjective moral system
> netural
> netural
> You can't cherry pick what is right or wrong even though I'm claiming that you have a subjective moral system
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 replied with this 12 years ago, 23 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,174
@previous (Ash !bbKEtchUp.)
Go give some people food poisoning you little runt. Yes I know you're a short man. That must suck
Go give some people food poisoning you little runt. Yes I know you're a short man. That must suck
Metæ replied with this 12 years ago, 32 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,181
@483,163 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
I'm not cherry picking anything. If anything, it's the opposite of cherry picking by listing more examples of things animals do. If you want to base your moral code on what animals do, fine. But at least be consistent about it.
@483,169 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
We cannot hope to understand ShitLogic®™ with our liberal, feminist, atheist IQs.
I'm not cherry picking anything. If anything, it's the opposite of cherry picking by listing more examples of things animals do. If you want to base your moral code on what animals do, fine. But at least be consistent about it.
@483,169 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
We cannot hope to understand ShitLogic®™ with our liberal, feminist, atheist IQs.
Ash !bbKEtchUp. replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,183
Anonymous C replied with this 12 years ago, 35 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,186
@483,170 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
Divine command theory has been dead since Plato wrote the Euthyphro Socratic dialogue. If you want to know how secular morality grounds itself, read up on Deontology, Utilitarianism, Virtue Ethics, and Social Contract theory. Ethics is a very cool field of inquiry if you give it a shot!
Divine command theory has been dead since Plato wrote the Euthyphro Socratic dialogue. If you want to know how secular morality grounds itself, read up on Deontology, Utilitarianism, Virtue Ethics, and Social Contract theory. Ethics is a very cool field of inquiry if you give it a shot!
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squeegee !first/o5zA joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,206
you're right, OP, raping women is a-okay.
But dating a porn star and sleeping with her and her friend was wrong
But dating a porn star and sleeping with her and her friend was wrong
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,217
@483,181 (Metæ)
Ha, true. Anyone who even vaguely fits those descriptions is clearly too deluded to understand anything.
@483,186 (C)
> inb4 accusations of liberal propaganda
Ha, true. Anyone who even vaguely fits those descriptions is clearly too deluded to understand anything.
@483,186 (C)
> inb4 accusations of liberal propaganda
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx double-posted this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,218
@483,206 (squeegee !first/o5zA)
Now you're getting it.
It turns out that the world's most objective source on morality is a bitter and angry bigot living somewhere in England. Who would have thought?
Now you're getting it.
It turns out that the world's most objective source on morality is a bitter and angry bigot living somewhere in England. Who would have thought?
JesusKun !S62Cksi7/k joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,219
This thread and every post within it are liberal propagandas out to brainwash your mindbanks.
Anonymous I replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,225
@previous (JesusKun !S62Cksi7/k)
Shitarse is utterly incapable of brainwashing anyone here as we discard pretty much everything he says as buttmad trolling.
Shitarse is utterly incapable of brainwashing anyone here as we discard pretty much everything he says as buttmad trolling.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,238
@previous (I)
I think, if anything, he's having the opposite effect. People become less sympathetic to his viewpoints as he goes on.
I think, if anything, he's having the opposite effect. People become less sympathetic to his viewpoints as he goes on.
Anonymous I replied with this 12 years ago, 18 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,243
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I actually feel for him now... Maybe he is doing a good thing by pretending to be a total fucktard... I was once was a proud Southern Baptist, but because of Shitarse's stupid opinions, I have become a sanctimonious liberal atheist! Holy shit Shitarse!? What have you done to me?! My parents have disowned me! How do you live with yourself??
I actually feel for him now... Maybe he is doing a good thing by pretending to be a total fucktard... I was once was a proud Southern Baptist, but because of Shitarse's stupid opinions, I have become a sanctimonious liberal atheist! Holy shit Shitarse!? What have you done to me?! My parents have disowned me! How do you live with yourself??
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 hours later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #483,250
@483,163 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
How do you explain that most of the users of Ashley Madison are religious?
How do you explain that most of the users of Ashley Madison are religious?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #483,261
@previous (N)
Liberal Jewish feminist conspiracy, obviously.
@483,243 (I)
Indeed. I used to to be an upstanding young bigot, but exposure to ShitArse caused me to mutate into a scheming Liberal, hell-bent on bringing down the white race and eliminating heterosexuality.
Thanks a lot for that, ShitArse. :-/
Liberal Jewish feminist conspiracy, obviously.
@483,243 (I)
Indeed. I used to to be an upstanding young bigot, but exposure to ShitArse caused me to mutate into a scheming Liberal, hell-bent on bringing down the white race and eliminating heterosexuality.
Thanks a lot for that, ShitArse. :-/