Topic: I might be a father
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 started this discussion 12 years ago #34,957
So a few weeks ago I made a topic about a girl I was seeing broke up with me and became a stripper. Well, I just found out she's going on 14 weeks pregnant. I may or may not be the father. Having a kid doesn't even freak me out. What freaks me out is she's crazy and is talking about running off to South Dakota to start fresh and get away from everything, and I have to be the one to file a paternity suit just to keep her from running off with what could be my kid.
A lot of guys would be relieved that she's running off and not demanding support but that's not the type of guy I am. I want to take responsibility and be a part of the child's life if it's mine, but she's being as difficult as possible.
A lot of guys would be relieved that she's running off and not demanding support but that's not the type of guy I am. I want to take responsibility and be a part of the child's life if it's mine, but she's being as difficult as possible.
squeegee joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 14 minutes later[^] [v] #481,138
i was going to post first but this is a serious threadbeckyderp !8ElfFaoFao joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 13 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #481,139
You can't file a paternity suit against a pregnant woman to "keep her from running off" with what you think might be your kid. WTF?
Can you imagine if all 20 guys she was fucking tried to file paternity suits to keep her in one place? You can't do that. That's not how the law works.
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Can you imagine if all 20 guys she was fucking tried to file paternity suits to keep her in one place? You can't do that. That's not how the law works.
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ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 20 minutes later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #481,140
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #481,141
Lol owned
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 47 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,144
Son of Broseph: Nephseph
Syntax joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 19 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,147
Broseph
If she does run off to South Dakota - My understanding is that South is not all that far from North Dakota.
Walter can help you out by taking her off your hands.
Now on the serious side - I have a daughter who has no clue I exist - Wood have wanted to provide support but that was not possible re the other guy who thinks he is the dad
But currently I am putting her through Harvard Med School - However she has no clue I be doing that.
Anyway good luck and let us no how this plays out legally.
If she does run off to South Dakota - My understanding is that South is not all that far from North Dakota.
Walter can help you out by taking her off your hands.
Now on the serious side - I have a daughter who has no clue I exist - Wood have wanted to provide support but that was not possible re the other guy who thinks he is the dad
But currently I am putting her through Harvard Med School - However she has no clue I be doing that.
Anyway good luck and let us no how this plays out legally.
Elim joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 22 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,149
@481,139 (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
> You can't file a paternity suit against a pregnant woman to "keep her from running off" with what you think might be your kid. WTF?
Seriously wtf damn
CANT SAY IM SURPRISED tho OP is a fucking tool
> You can't file a paternity suit against a pregnant woman to "keep her from running off" with what you think might be your kid. WTF?
Seriously wtf damn
CANT SAY IM SURPRISED tho OP is a fucking tool
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 25 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,154
@previous (Elim)
I thought becky's
> your hero schtick is retarded and so is the baby she is probably going to abort.
Kinda made the most cents
I thought becky's
> your hero schtick is retarded and so is the baby she is probably going to abort.
Kinda made the most cents
Elim replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,155
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,156
@previous (Elim)
I do remember that feeling of my Stomach falling to my knees when I first found out my Married GF was with child.
Its all to often I remind chan users that Condoms are NOT 100% fail proof. Add to this - The non bio dad who raised my daughter has a blood type that makes it impossible for him to be the dad.
So one day for simple reasons he could discover the Girl is not of his making.
Rare to see broseph around anymore.
I do remember that feeling of my Stomach falling to my knees when I first found out my Married GF was with child.
Its all to often I remind chan users that Condoms are NOT 100% fail proof. Add to this - The non bio dad who raised my daughter has a blood type that makes it impossible for him to be the dad.
So one day for simple reasons he could discover the Girl is not of his making.
Rare to see broseph around anymore.
Elim replied with this 12 years ago, 32 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,157
Anonymous F replied with this 12 years ago, 11 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,160
@481,156 (Syntax)
Was this around the time you were advising Ernst Gräfenberg on interuterine contraceptive devices?
Was this around the time you were advising Ernst Gräfenberg on interuterine contraceptive devices?
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,161
@previous (F)
Oh you want me to Google Ernst? Some other wanker yesterday got me to Google a Head Shrink who died during Jogging
Did Ernst die from finding a way to put his head back in2 the womb?
Is Ernst related to Ernst & Julio wines?
@481,157 (Elim)
Elim
Condoms a little 2close to home?
Seinfield episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH-LHOFqH74
Oh you want me to Google Ernst? Some other wanker yesterday got me to Google a Head Shrink who died during Jogging
Did Ernst die from finding a way to put his head back in2 the womb?
Is Ernst related to Ernst & Julio wines?
@481,157 (Elim)
Elim
Condoms a little 2close to home?
Seinfield episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH-LHOFqH74
Elim replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,164
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,165
You're an idiot OP.
beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,167
Anonymous I replied with this 12 years ago, 13 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,168
Anonymous F replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,170
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,173
@previous (F)
So Ernst was successful and could afford a quality wine. I when I have tyme look into Ernst Gräfenberg
Hey it just hit me - Bet this is the dude who found the G-Spot after like 100,000 years of other men finding it?
So Ernst was successful and could afford a quality wine. I when I have tyme look into Ernst Gräfenberg
Hey it just hit me - Bet this is the dude who found the G-Spot after like 100,000 years of other men finding it?
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 15 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,176
@OP talk about political suicide
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 6 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,223
@481,139 (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
Actually, you can, at least in Delaware. By "run off" of course I don't mean that they treat leaving the state like it's breaking parole, it just means that she would be ordered by the court to submit to a paternity test and if she were hiding in South Dakota she would be held in contempt of court. Also, if the court decided that there should be joint custody, then she would be required to bring the kid back. I am hoping that she'll be reasonable and voluntarily do the test and if it's mine, allow me to help her and the child and be a part of its life, but since she's already talking about moving away I may have to take legal action if I want to be a part of my child's life. Delaware is not a "mom first" state. Both parents have equal rights.
Actually, you can, at least in Delaware. By "run off" of course I don't mean that they treat leaving the state like it's breaking parole, it just means that she would be ordered by the court to submit to a paternity test and if she were hiding in South Dakota she would be held in contempt of court. Also, if the court decided that there should be joint custody, then she would be required to bring the kid back. I am hoping that she'll be reasonable and voluntarily do the test and if it's mine, allow me to help her and the child and be a part of its life, but since she's already talking about moving away I may have to take legal action if I want to be a part of my child's life. Delaware is not a "mom first" state. Both parents have equal rights.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,224
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) triple-posted this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,225
Ash !bbKEtchUp. joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 45 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,231
Not really. I might be committing political suicide by saying this, and be accused of selling out, but here it goes: I want to get away from the baby daddy altogether. I want to get away from the idea of being a mom altogether. I want to create a babby that is more like a fashion accessory than anything else. It would be like a little dog, with the focus being on the clothes and real cuteness rather than it focusing on food, poop, nap-nap, peekaboo, milk, etc. It would give you the option to go party rather than forcing you to "look after its welfare", but waiting and holding off on the shots for 10 more minutes would be an option.
Metæ joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,233
@481,139 (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
In all seriousness, if the kid is his (proven by DNA or whatever after birth) can he sue for visitation rights if she leaves the state? How does that work?
In all seriousness, if the kid is his (proven by DNA or whatever after birth) can he sue for visitation rights if she leaves the state? How does that work?
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,234
@previous (Metæ)
In Delaware, if a parent doesn't show up to the family court he/she is held in contempt of court, and they basically treat it like a kidnapping. Doesn't matter if it's the mother or father. I know a guy who's ex-wife wanted to move just to Jersey, but the judge said "nope, it's your responsibility to get the kids to him when he has custody." I know another guy whose ex-wife tried to run off to Texas with the kid, now he has full custody of the kid and she has to pay him child support because of the stunts she pulled.
In Delaware, if a parent doesn't show up to the family court he/she is held in contempt of court, and they basically treat it like a kidnapping. Doesn't matter if it's the mother or father. I know a guy who's ex-wife wanted to move just to Jersey, but the judge said "nope, it's your responsibility to get the kids to him when he has custody." I know another guy whose ex-wife tried to run off to Texas with the kid, now he has full custody of the kid and she has to pay him child support because of the stunts she pulled.
Anonymous E replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,241
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
Same shit happened to my friends brother, she took the kids to another town and was arrested for attempted kidnappings, visitation rights ain't no joke...
Same shit happened to my friends brother, she took the kids to another town and was arrested for attempted kidnappings, visitation rights ain't no joke...
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 hours later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,250
Anonymous F replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #481,251
beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao replied with this 12 years ago, 8 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,278
@481,223 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
Ok I mean, you can't get a court to order a paternity test while she's pregnant though. She can do whatever she wants while she's pregnant.
Ok I mean, you can't get a court to order a paternity test while she's pregnant though. She can do whatever she wants while she's pregnant.
beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao double-posted this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,279
@481,233 (Metæ)
Sure, he can sue for it. But I doubt a judge is going to order an ex-girlfriend who moved while she was pregnant to come back, if they were never married and he never established a relationship with the baby.
Sure, he can sue for it. But I doubt a judge is going to order an ex-girlfriend who moved while she was pregnant to come back, if they were never married and he never established a relationship with the baby.
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Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,284
It's cool you want kids, but you'd be a lot better off if this one isn't yours.
Anonymous M replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,285
@481,278 (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
@481,279 (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
Becky, stop. You don't know about the law. :-/
@481,279 (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
Becky, stop. You don't know about the law. :-/
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Ash !bbKEtchUp. replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,287
beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao replied with this 12 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,288
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,298
@481,279 (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
In Delaware, if paternity is established, it would be no different than if we were divorced. She would have to be living in South Dakota for at least 6 months before I file suit for them to say she doesn't have to come back. The only way she could move to South Dakota would be to give full custody to me.
In Delaware, if paternity is established, it would be no different than if we were divorced. She would have to be living in South Dakota for at least 6 months before I file suit for them to say she doesn't have to come back. The only way she could move to South Dakota would be to give full custody to me.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,299
@481,284 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
I agree with that sentiment, but if it's mine I want to take responsibility a be part of the kid's life. Having a kid growing up not knowing me is one of my biggest fears.
I agree with that sentiment, but if it's mine I want to take responsibility a be part of the kid's life. Having a kid growing up not knowing me is one of my biggest fears.
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Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,302
@481,278 (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
Right, but I would file it now and the court would wait until after the child is born to test for paternity. I'm hoping she'll voluntarily do a prenatal test so we can find out sooner and not deal with a legal battle.
Right, but I would file it now and the court would wait until after the child is born to test for paternity. I'm hoping she'll voluntarily do a prenatal test so we can find out sooner and not deal with a legal battle.
beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao replied with this 12 years ago, 55 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,317
@481,298 (A)
Source? I mean it's possible (states differ), but I have never seen a family law be so explicit where you could say for sure how custody decisions would come out ahead of time. It's normally something like "the court may make decisions based on the best interests of child, considering the following factors," one of which would be the relationship the father had with the child before the mother tried to move.
If you want a say in the kid's life, you pretty much have to marry her, or establish a relationship with the kid first somehow. If someone has to move, it's probably you. You don't get possession over people when you fuck them. This is why people get married!!
@previous (A)
How on earth do you file now? She could abort the baby tomorrow. There is no legal person to argue over yet. I love arguing with you, but where are you even getting this stuff from?!
Source? I mean it's possible (states differ), but I have never seen a family law be so explicit where you could say for sure how custody decisions would come out ahead of time. It's normally something like "the court may make decisions based on the best interests of child, considering the following factors," one of which would be the relationship the father had with the child before the mother tried to move.
If you want a say in the kid's life, you pretty much have to marry her, or establish a relationship with the kid first somehow. If someone has to move, it's probably you. You don't get possession over people when you fuck them. This is why people get married!!
@previous (A)
How on earth do you file now? She could abort the baby tomorrow. There is no legal person to argue over yet. I love arguing with you, but where are you even getting this stuff from?!
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Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,325
@481,285 (M)
I can back up the fact that becky indeed does no more about the law then most people here
Also she has access or at least once had access to a Computer tool/software for the law that almost no one here has. So she wood be able to look up law issues you cannot find on open net.
Me? I have to walk up the street to my Cousins law office to use such tools and the staff there is always expecting me to provide geek tools in trade.
I can back up the fact that becky indeed does no more about the law then most people here
Also she has access or at least once had access to a Computer tool/software for the law that almost no one here has. So she wood be able to look up law issues you cannot find on open net.
Me? I have to walk up the street to my Cousins law office to use such tools and the staff there is always expecting me to provide geek tools in trade.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,334
@481,317 (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
I am getting this info from friends and Delaware lawyers. Delaware protects father's just as much as mothers when it comes to parental rights. The reason the law in Delaware is set up this specifically is so that women can't run of to prevent fathers from building a relationship with their child. Do you really hate men that much that the thought of us having equal parental rights disgusts you?
In Delaware, custody is usually mediated through the courts to figure out what's in the best interest of the child but the only time they will say one parent had no right to custody is of they're deemed an unfit parent.
If she told me I had to move to South Dakota and marry her to be a part of the child's life, and take her up on the offer, but at least in Delaware, she doesn't have the option to be completely uncooperative to keep me out of his life.
> "You don't get possession over people when you fuck them."
I don't get what part of equal rights for both parents you don't get. Anything a woman can file for a man can file for as well. I can file a paternity suit now preemptively. She could still abort it and that would be the end of that.
I am getting this info from friends and Delaware lawyers. Delaware protects father's just as much as mothers when it comes to parental rights. The reason the law in Delaware is set up this specifically is so that women can't run of to prevent fathers from building a relationship with their child. Do you really hate men that much that the thought of us having equal parental rights disgusts you?
In Delaware, custody is usually mediated through the courts to figure out what's in the best interest of the child but the only time they will say one parent had no right to custody is of they're deemed an unfit parent.
If she told me I had to move to South Dakota and marry her to be a part of the child's life, and take her up on the offer, but at least in Delaware, she doesn't have the option to be completely uncooperative to keep me out of his life.
> "You don't get possession over people when you fuck them."
I don't get what part of equal rights for both parents you don't get. Anything a woman can file for a man can file for as well. I can file a paternity suit now preemptively. She could still abort it and that would be the end of that.
beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao replied with this 12 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,336
@previous (A)
You have no basis to file anything telling a woman she can't move to another state. That's your problem here: you're not a parent and you have no parental rights, because there is no fucking baby, and there's no presumption of paternity because you didn't marry her.
Do you think I could demand an order that an ex of mine can't leave the state? Legally, that example is exactly the same as the one you're in, because you have no legal rights over another woman's fetus, and you have no power to compel her to do anything. If you care about making babies with someone, you marry them so you get paternity at birth, and then you have some rights to the child.
You have no basis to file anything telling a woman she can't move to another state. That's your problem here: you're not a parent and you have no parental rights, because there is no fucking baby, and there's no presumption of paternity because you didn't marry her.
Do you think I could demand an order that an ex of mine can't leave the state? Legally, that example is exactly the same as the one you're in, because you have no legal rights over another woman's fetus, and you have no power to compel her to do anything. If you care about making babies with someone, you marry them so you get paternity at birth, and then you have some rights to the child.
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Anonymous M replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,337
@481,325 (Syntax)
Syntax, I was clearly joking with that comment. It is common knowledge that Becky knows her way around the law.
Syntax, I was clearly joking with that comment. It is common knowledge that Becky knows her way around the law.
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,341
@previous (M)
OK
This much I Have learned about the Law the hard way- Attorneys are similar to Engineers. Issues are complex and Attorneys end up specialized just like Engineers.
If you go to an office with a case - You could end up educating an Attorney who will learn the ins n outs of the law and charge you for that education but of course not tell you they are not experts cause well they want money from your wallet.
I will share a more direct better example that is close to home.
Back when I needed a divorce attorney years ago I found an office that had one very good family law set of attorneys and far more business case attorneys. That means there were CPAs and Tax law experts.
Now my Ex chose a rather Infamous Gloria Allred. Actually in my opinion she not so much so good because she ends up far to invested emotionally in each case but that is my opinion.
Her office did not have at the tyme anyone with any background in business issues and most important was anyone with any IRS background or even a CPA
So I ended up with my attorneys taking advantage of what the other side failed to have in expertise.
Since that tyme I use Attorneys mostly for real estate issues and the very best I found have reputations that are easy to check out. WoW what a difference it makes to get an attorney that will look at my case and show me examples of cases they won that were 99% similar. And the side benefits of them knowing the best fix it people to employ - Painters electricians contractors - all that for free because they knew who got sued and who didn't -
OK
This much I Have learned about the Law the hard way- Attorneys are similar to Engineers. Issues are complex and Attorneys end up specialized just like Engineers.
If you go to an office with a case - You could end up educating an Attorney who will learn the ins n outs of the law and charge you for that education but of course not tell you they are not experts cause well they want money from your wallet.
I will share a more direct better example that is close to home.
Back when I needed a divorce attorney years ago I found an office that had one very good family law set of attorneys and far more business case attorneys. That means there were CPAs and Tax law experts.
Now my Ex chose a rather Infamous Gloria Allred. Actually in my opinion she not so much so good because she ends up far to invested emotionally in each case but that is my opinion.
Her office did not have at the tyme anyone with any background in business issues and most important was anyone with any IRS background or even a CPA
So I ended up with my attorneys taking advantage of what the other side failed to have in expertise.
Since that tyme I use Attorneys mostly for real estate issues and the very best I found have reputations that are easy to check out. WoW what a difference it makes to get an attorney that will look at my case and show me examples of cases they won that were 99% similar. And the side benefits of them knowing the best fix it people to employ - Painters electricians contractors - all that for free because they knew who got sued and who didn't -
Anonymous M replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,342
@previous (Syntax)
Sigh. Why did I even bother making that post? I knew that it would prompt some barely related tangent, but I did it anyway.
Sigh. Why did I even bother making that post? I knew that it would prompt some barely related tangent, but I did it anyway.
Elim replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,345
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,346
@481,342 (M)
Yikes did not mean to offend you.
Not tangential - Broseph should on his own go to a library with law books in his locale and use Google and look up family laws, laws in his location. Dats copypasta from becky.
If he qualifies he can even get free legal help - There are other ways to get legal advise in general from a practicing attorney - Once I needed to go to city hall to get their legal dept to get parking cops off my case re a broken parking meter - Got the help I needed and then I said hey anyone around in another area of the law cause I have a quick question or three
Got all the help I needed and more opinions then I needed and walked out feeling real good -
Yikes did not mean to offend you.
Not tangential - Broseph should on his own go to a library with law books in his locale and use Google and look up family laws, laws in his location. Dats copypasta from becky.
If he qualifies he can even get free legal help - There are other ways to get legal advise in general from a practicing attorney - Once I needed to go to city hall to get their legal dept to get parking cops off my case re a broken parking meter - Got the help I needed and then I said hey anyone around in another area of the law cause I have a quick question or three
Got all the help I needed and more opinions then I needed and walked out feeling real good -
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,378
@481,336 (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
In not demanding that she can't lane the state. She can leave, but if she has the baby she has to come back to Delaware or would be held in contempt of court. If paternity is established through the test, which can be court ordered, it doesn't matter that we were never married. If paternity is established it's grayed like we're divorced. Just like a woman doesn't have to be married to man to sue for child support, the man doesn't have to be married to the woman to sue for custody if paternity is established. Delaware is not a "mom first" state and biological patents have equal rights. I'm not trying to pin her down. I just want the right to help raise my kid. I think it's really fucked up that you think a woman take a man's kid away and refuse to give the father a chance to be party of the kid's life, and you think that's justice. Delaware thinks it's fucked up to, and that's why they take more measures to protect the rights of fathers.
You seem to pissed off that sex can pin someone down, but it happens. It's no different from an unwed woman demanding child support from a biological father and telling him that he has to stay in the state of he wants custody, except the roles are reversed because DE protects both parents equally.
In not demanding that she can't lane the state. She can leave, but if she has the baby she has to come back to Delaware or would be held in contempt of court. If paternity is established through the test, which can be court ordered, it doesn't matter that we were never married. If paternity is established it's grayed like we're divorced. Just like a woman doesn't have to be married to man to sue for child support, the man doesn't have to be married to the woman to sue for custody if paternity is established. Delaware is not a "mom first" state and biological patents have equal rights. I'm not trying to pin her down. I just want the right to help raise my kid. I think it's really fucked up that you think a woman take a man's kid away and refuse to give the father a chance to be party of the kid's life, and you think that's justice. Delaware thinks it's fucked up to, and that's why they take more measures to protect the rights of fathers.
You seem to pissed off that sex can pin someone down, but it happens. It's no different from an unwed woman demanding child support from a biological father and telling him that he has to stay in the state of he wants custody, except the roles are reversed because DE protects both parents equally.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,387
http://www.dhss.delaware.gov/dcse/estpat.html
Paternity/parentage establishment means determining the parent of a child. If a child's parents were not married or in a civil marriage/union when the child was born, the law does not recognize the other parent unless paternity/parentage is legally established. Establishing paternity/parentage will give your child the same rights and benefits as children born to married parents. These rights and benefits include:
Other parent's name is on the birth certificate
Legal proof and identity of the child's parents
Family medical history (helpful with inherited health issues)
Medical or life insurance from either parent (if available)
Financial support from both parents, including child support, inheritance, military allowances, social security, and/or veteran benefits.
Establishing paternity/parentage gives both parents legal rights to:
Seek a court order for child support.
Seek a court order for custody or visitation.
Have a say in certain legal decisions about the child.
Paternity/parentage establishment means determining the parent of a child. If a child's parents were not married or in a civil marriage/union when the child was born, the law does not recognize the other parent unless paternity/parentage is legally established. Establishing paternity/parentage will give your child the same rights and benefits as children born to married parents. These rights and benefits include:
Other parent's name is on the birth certificate
Legal proof and identity of the child's parents
Family medical history (helpful with inherited health issues)
Medical or life insurance from either parent (if available)
Financial support from both parents, including child support, inheritance, military allowances, social security, and/or veteran benefits.
Establishing paternity/parentage gives both parents legal rights to:
Seek a court order for child support.
Seek a court order for custody or visitation.
Have a say in certain legal decisions about the child.
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 7 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,440
@481,378 (A)
> In not demanding that she can't lane the state. She can leave, but if she has the baby she has to come back to Delaware or would be held in contempt of court.
I minored in law back at UCLA in the dark ages and some wood tell you it was b4 US Constitution was written - learned just enough to not trust common sense and the law
That having to come back to Delaware? Just guessing only - You want the court to make an order b4 she leaves your state that forces her to take the test after she has the baby and if it links to you then she has to return to Delaware
Did I get that correct?
I am betting that its up to you to go to South Dakota and take her to court there. Asking the court to bring her back and impose your State laws when she is not going to be a resident of your state and asking your state to enforce your state laws on her when she goes back to South Dakota?
I fully understand why you wood like it that way. Just doubt its going to happen. Another State will enforce another states court order like say Child support so that is not a problem - Its the bringing her back by court order? Just don't see that happening. Again the one thing I learned in two years of UCLA law was never to trust my use of common sense vs the law.
> In not demanding that she can't lane the state. She can leave, but if she has the baby she has to come back to Delaware or would be held in contempt of court.
I minored in law back at UCLA in the dark ages and some wood tell you it was b4 US Constitution was written - learned just enough to not trust common sense and the law
That having to come back to Delaware? Just guessing only - You want the court to make an order b4 she leaves your state that forces her to take the test after she has the baby and if it links to you then she has to return to Delaware
Did I get that correct?
I am betting that its up to you to go to South Dakota and take her to court there. Asking the court to bring her back and impose your State laws when she is not going to be a resident of your state and asking your state to enforce your state laws on her when she goes back to South Dakota?
I fully understand why you wood like it that way. Just doubt its going to happen. Another State will enforce another states court order like say Child support so that is not a problem - Its the bringing her back by court order? Just don't see that happening. Again the one thing I learned in two years of UCLA law was never to trust my use of common sense vs the law.
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,452
Loving this thread.
beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao replied with this 12 years ago, 5 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #481,495
@481,440 (Syntax)
Exactly. It's a problem of jurisdiction -- which is the power of a state's court to make and enforce orders. "Rights" to a child are very different from a court's jurisdiction over the parties.
Broseph is getting hung up on the "same rights as married couple" things, but there are big differences between the two scenarios.
- A married couple is (usually) living together, in one state.
- The child is conceived and born in that one state.
- The father usually has a chance to establish a relationship with the child before any custody disputes arise. Courts care a lot about maintaining stability for the child: it's easier to "continue" custody than fight for custody you never had, once the child is in another state.
- The custody dispute is dealt with as part of a larger case, one in which both parties consent to the state's jurisdiction over them.
It's true that Broseph can file a paternity action now, but it's going to be pointless if his ex wants to dodge the court. DE cannot order testing of the child in utero - she has to agree to it. See Uniform Parentage Act Sec. 8-502(c). (While it's called "uniform," it's not a law South Dakota has adopted; a few other states have, though.)
Let's assume ex has already fled to South Dakota. (She would be wise to leave now before anything is filed, if you're talking crazy about forcing her back to DE.) Delaware loses jurisdiction over her the instant she leaves the state because she is simply a woman traveling by herself and states can't restrict interstate travel. Having sex in Delaware does not obligate a person to stay or return to that state. (It apparently does confer jurisdiction on SD courts if the sex occurs in SD, though: see here for each state's "long arm statute.")
So, the baby is born in SD. SD courts gain jurisdiction over the child upon birth and over the mother because she's a resident. Now Broseph can file in SD, get a genetic test and a declaration of his paternity, but she can make life super difficult if she doesn't consent to Delaware's jurisdiction. He will have to attend court in SD (may be possible to Skype but it won't look good), have interviews with social workers there, let them determine who's the fitter and better parent, because the parties have forced a decision about where the child goes. If he doesn't have a job or a residence there, he doesn't look good in that analysis. He has no history/relationship with the child to point to.
You cannot turn this into an acrimonious thing, Broseph - either cut bait or decide you are all-in, which means working with her. She can agree to any custody arrangement that isn't blatantly crazy, and the courts will accept it. If she wants to go to SD, you basically either have to join her or accept being an absentee father. She can and will get a child support order against you, too.
Exactly. It's a problem of jurisdiction -- which is the power of a state's court to make and enforce orders. "Rights" to a child are very different from a court's jurisdiction over the parties.
Broseph is getting hung up on the "same rights as married couple" things, but there are big differences between the two scenarios.
- A married couple is (usually) living together, in one state.
- The child is conceived and born in that one state.
- The father usually has a chance to establish a relationship with the child before any custody disputes arise. Courts care a lot about maintaining stability for the child: it's easier to "continue" custody than fight for custody you never had, once the child is in another state.
- The custody dispute is dealt with as part of a larger case, one in which both parties consent to the state's jurisdiction over them.
It's true that Broseph can file a paternity action now, but it's going to be pointless if his ex wants to dodge the court. DE cannot order testing of the child in utero - she has to agree to it. See Uniform Parentage Act Sec. 8-502(c). (While it's called "uniform," it's not a law South Dakota has adopted; a few other states have, though.)
Let's assume ex has already fled to South Dakota. (She would be wise to leave now before anything is filed, if you're talking crazy about forcing her back to DE.) Delaware loses jurisdiction over her the instant she leaves the state because she is simply a woman traveling by herself and states can't restrict interstate travel. Having sex in Delaware does not obligate a person to stay or return to that state. (It apparently does confer jurisdiction on SD courts if the sex occurs in SD, though: see here for each state's "long arm statute.")
So, the baby is born in SD. SD courts gain jurisdiction over the child upon birth and over the mother because she's a resident. Now Broseph can file in SD, get a genetic test and a declaration of his paternity, but she can make life super difficult if she doesn't consent to Delaware's jurisdiction. He will have to attend court in SD (may be possible to Skype but it won't look good), have interviews with social workers there, let them determine who's the fitter and better parent, because the parties have forced a decision about where the child goes. If he doesn't have a job or a residence there, he doesn't look good in that analysis. He has no history/relationship with the child to point to.
You cannot turn this into an acrimonious thing, Broseph - either cut bait or decide you are all-in, which means working with her. She can agree to any custody arrangement that isn't blatantly crazy, and the courts will accept it. If she wants to go to SD, you basically either have to join her or accept being an absentee father. She can and will get a child support order against you, too.
(Edited 23 minutes later.)
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #481,500
@481,452 (O)
Glad you like the thread - a lot of wot goes on in chans resembles white noise - on occasion serious issues are brought up and there is much to learn about the real world instead of just net play.
@previous (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
Your bottom line:
> She can and will get a child support order against you, too.
I think that will end up being his best line of defense. If he ends up paying because she takes action with the courts then at least much of the paper work is done and he gets a chance to ask for visitation etc.
I could but won't go into how this subject gets on my nerves as it has for years. I did the crime and its my burden to live with the outcome. Maybe one day I can be more a part of my daughters life but hey shit happens.
>
Glad you like the thread - a lot of wot goes on in chans resembles white noise - on occasion serious issues are brought up and there is much to learn about the real world instead of just net play.
@previous (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
Your bottom line:
> She can and will get a child support order against you, too.
I think that will end up being his best line of defense. If he ends up paying because she takes action with the courts then at least much of the paper work is done and he gets a chance to ask for visitation etc.
I could but won't go into how this subject gets on my nerves as it has for years. I did the crime and its my burden to live with the outcome. Maybe one day I can be more a part of my daughters life but hey shit happens.
>
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #481,502
beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #481,503
@481,378 (A)
> You seem to pissed off that sex can pin someone down, but it happens. It's no different from an unwed woman demanding child support from a biological father and telling him that he has to stay in the state of he wants custody, except the roles are reversed because DE protects both parents equally.
It is different:
The mother doesn't determine where the father stays - the courts do. They make custody determinations based on the best interests of the child. Most courts will have a standard order they follow if the parties cannot agree. In the court I'm familiar with, that would be every other weekend and one night a week. In South Dakota - well, read this: http://www.keloland.com/newsdetail.cfm/shared-parenting-signed-into-sd-law/?id=161454.
There's a legal difference between child support and custody/visitation. Child support is considered a right belonging to the child, and is analyzed differently from decisions on visitation (which is considered a right of the parent). She can seek money from you after the child is born in SD. She can get a child support order against you and Delaware will recognize and enforce that order, without your gaining any visitation rights. You can seek visitation/custody from that SD court, but you will have to play by their rules.
> You seem to pissed off that sex can pin someone down, but it happens. It's no different from an unwed woman demanding child support from a biological father and telling him that he has to stay in the state of he wants custody, except the roles are reversed because DE protects both parents equally.
It is different:
The mother doesn't determine where the father stays - the courts do. They make custody determinations based on the best interests of the child. Most courts will have a standard order they follow if the parties cannot agree. In the court I'm familiar with, that would be every other weekend and one night a week. In South Dakota - well, read this: http://www.keloland.com/newsdetail.cfm/shared-parenting-signed-into-sd-law/?id=161454.
There's a legal difference between child support and custody/visitation. Child support is considered a right belonging to the child, and is analyzed differently from decisions on visitation (which is considered a right of the parent). She can seek money from you after the child is born in SD. She can get a child support order against you and Delaware will recognize and enforce that order, without your gaining any visitation rights. You can seek visitation/custody from that SD court, but you will have to play by their rules.
(Edited 1 minute later.)
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #481,584
@481,495 (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
I'm all in and willing to work with her. I'm just scared right now because so far she hasn't given me much of a chance to work with her. I don't want it to turn into a big legal battle, I just need to know what to do if it does. She re-friended me on Facebook and said she wants to meet up to talk next week, so I'm hoping that last week she was just scared (understandably so) and after thinking it over is going to work with me. I'm talking to lawyer just in case.
I'm all in and willing to work with her. I'm just scared right now because so far she hasn't given me much of a chance to work with her. I don't want it to turn into a big legal battle, I just need to know what to do if it does. She re-friended me on Facebook and said she wants to meet up to talk next week, so I'm hoping that last week she was just scared (understandably so) and after thinking it over is going to work with me. I'm talking to lawyer just in case.
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 43 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #481,600
@previous (A)
Some words of advise I got from an Ex-GF that was a head shrink
Make sure you rehearse what you will say under pressure and do it over and over - If you hit any hot buttons then you end up cutting off further communication and it can be costly and make you fail.
Let her do 90% of the talking and be a good listener. This may be your only opportunity to set the stage for a better long term relationship which means cooperation at the minimum.
Some words of advise I got from an Ex-GF that was a head shrink
Make sure you rehearse what you will say under pressure and do it over and over - If you hit any hot buttons then you end up cutting off further communication and it can be costly and make you fail.
Let her do 90% of the talking and be a good listener. This may be your only opportunity to set the stage for a better long term relationship which means cooperation at the minimum.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 4 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #481,614
@481,503 (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
Thank you for sharing that link. It does make me feel a little better about the situation. It's good to know that South Dakota is becoming more like Delaware with equal parenting rights. It would suck if I have to go to South Dakota to fight for all this shit, but I'd rather try to start in new life in South Dakota if I have to to be part of the kid's life than have to pay child support for a kid that I barely, or never get to see. Child support doesn't bother me if I get to be a significant part of the kid's life. I just hope it doesn't boil down to all this legal crap.
Thank you for sharing that link. It does make me feel a little better about the situation. It's good to know that South Dakota is becoming more like Delaware with equal parenting rights. It would suck if I have to go to South Dakota to fight for all this shit, but I'd rather try to start in new life in South Dakota if I have to to be part of the kid's life than have to pay child support for a kid that I barely, or never get to see. Child support doesn't bother me if I get to be a significant part of the kid's life. I just hope it doesn't boil down to all this legal crap.
beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #481,615
@481,584 (A)
I feel badly that I came out swinging on this one -- sorry. Hope your meeting with her goes well. And good idea on talking to a lawyer.
I feel badly that I came out swinging on this one -- sorry. Hope your meeting with her goes well. And good idea on talking to a lawyer.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #481,617
@previous (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
No need to apologize becky. I wouldn't have you any other way. My friends recommended a good lawyer and I sent her an email summing up most of what's going on. She's out of her office until Wednesday so now I'm just waiting.
No need to apologize becky. I wouldn't have you any other way. My friends recommended a good lawyer and I sent her an email summing up most of what's going on. She's out of her office until Wednesday so now I'm just waiting.
beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #481,619
squeegee !first/o5zA joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #481,622
@481,615 (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)i told y'all this shit was serious, but noooo, don't listen to squeegee, just swing for the fences
TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs replied with this 12 years ago, 11 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #481,660
lol
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #481,695
squeegee replied with this 12 years ago, 22 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #481,699
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
it's fine, i accept your apology, try to not let it happen again.
it's fine, i accept your apology, try to not let it happen again.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 week later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #483,066
So, an update. The other guy reached out to me on Facebook and he's being very friendly about the whole situation. She's calmed down a bit and isn't talking about going to South Dakota anymore. Everyone is on board to get a non-invasive prenatal paternity test done. There's not much of a point though, because unless the ultrasound is off by about 2 weeks there's no chance he's the father. The test is more to just prove it to her than anything. She was never going to tell me, until he saw the first ultrasound result, did the math, and flipped out on her for lying about it the whole time.
She's still working at the club, but stopped stripping and works there as a DJ now. I'm still a little salty about the whole situation, because she's still not giving much thought to giving me another chance so the kid can grow up with both parents. I told her I'm not trying to get her into a relationship she doesn't want to be in, but I want the kid to have a chance to have both parents and I want the chance to be a good father. It's not like things ended on bad terms. We never fought or anything so I just don't get why she's not even willing to give it chance. She has this idea stuck in her head that even if it's mine she wants to stay with him and have him be like a step dad, which is why I'm salty. The kid's not even born yet and she's already got a step dad picked out, which isn't giving me much of a chance to be a father. She actually suggested that I move in with them and pay rent, like I'm supposed to be OK with living with the guy fucking the mother of my child. I don't think he's going to want to stay with her if the tests prove it's mine though, but I'm worried that when this fantasy of hers comes tumbling down she'll freak out and start thinking of going to South Dakota again. The other guy is an outstanding gentleman and has really gone to bat for me, and keeps telling her she should give me a chance if I'm the father.
All I can do now is hope that things will work out. If she's not willing to give the idea of trying to start a family chance, then all I can do is file for custody when the baby is born.
She's still working at the club, but stopped stripping and works there as a DJ now. I'm still a little salty about the whole situation, because she's still not giving much thought to giving me another chance so the kid can grow up with both parents. I told her I'm not trying to get her into a relationship she doesn't want to be in, but I want the kid to have a chance to have both parents and I want the chance to be a good father. It's not like things ended on bad terms. We never fought or anything so I just don't get why she's not even willing to give it chance. She has this idea stuck in her head that even if it's mine she wants to stay with him and have him be like a step dad, which is why I'm salty. The kid's not even born yet and she's already got a step dad picked out, which isn't giving me much of a chance to be a father. She actually suggested that I move in with them and pay rent, like I'm supposed to be OK with living with the guy fucking the mother of my child. I don't think he's going to want to stay with her if the tests prove it's mine though, but I'm worried that when this fantasy of hers comes tumbling down she'll freak out and start thinking of going to South Dakota again. The other guy is an outstanding gentleman and has really gone to bat for me, and keeps telling her she should give me a chance if I'm the father.
All I can do now is hope that things will work out. If she's not willing to give the idea of trying to start a family chance, then all I can do is file for custody when the baby is born.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 7 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #483,106
beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #483,119
@483,066 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
She sounds young. She's living in fantasy land.
She has to face some realities here: this other guy is totally free to run away from her and abandon the kid, up until an adoption, which you can challenge. He is never going to care about the kid the way you do, he will never pay for the little things you are willing to, he just doesn't have the buy-in.
The idea of moving you into their place reminds a lot of the kind of girl who will cheat on her SO and cuckhold him and all sorts of other foggy-thinking -- you have to see women breaking up their families for affairs to start to recognize that particular brand of crazy and where it can lead. I think you need to be really, really careful with her. Document every important conversation and every cent you give her; keep the facebook messages; etc.
But I think her mindset might change when she recognizes the vulnerability of her position. She will get big, no firm job, the guy might leave; the economic realities will hit her at some point. Does she have family in South Dakota -- what's the draw there?
She sounds young. She's living in fantasy land.
She has to face some realities here: this other guy is totally free to run away from her and abandon the kid, up until an adoption, which you can challenge. He is never going to care about the kid the way you do, he will never pay for the little things you are willing to, he just doesn't have the buy-in.
The idea of moving you into their place reminds a lot of the kind of girl who will cheat on her SO and cuckhold him and all sorts of other foggy-thinking -- you have to see women breaking up their families for affairs to start to recognize that particular brand of crazy and where it can lead. I think you need to be really, really careful with her. Document every important conversation and every cent you give her; keep the facebook messages; etc.
But I think her mindset might change when she recognizes the vulnerability of her position. She will get big, no firm job, the guy might leave; the economic realities will hit her at some point. Does she have family in South Dakota -- what's the draw there?
Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #483,129
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shut the fuck up op and stop being a bitch
shut the fuck up op and stop being a bitch
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 40 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #483,135
@483,066 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
> Stripper...got a step dad picked out
Sounds a little more then just dicey.
> Stripper...got a step dad picked out
Sounds a little more then just dicey.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #483,138
@483,119 (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
These were my thoughts exactly. You and I are on the same page. I have saved all the text messages. Like I said, I'm hoping once we do the test reality will start to set in and she might snap out of fantasy land. As far as the possibility of cheating, cuckolding, and not being able to trust her in general, I realized that as soon as the reality hit me that if the other guy had never caught on she might have never told me.
Oh, and the South Dakota thing. She has family in South Dakota, but she has family here, too. It's her dad's side of the family in South Dakota, but she told me that her dad wants nothing to do with her, so I have no idea what her reasoning was other than just wanting to run away from everything.
These were my thoughts exactly. You and I are on the same page. I have saved all the text messages. Like I said, I'm hoping once we do the test reality will start to set in and she might snap out of fantasy land. As far as the possibility of cheating, cuckolding, and not being able to trust her in general, I realized that as soon as the reality hit me that if the other guy had never caught on she might have never told me.
Oh, and the South Dakota thing. She has family in South Dakota, but she has family here, too. It's her dad's side of the family in South Dakota, but she told me that her dad wants nothing to do with her, so I have no idea what her reasoning was other than just wanting to run away from everything.
(Edited 2 minutes later.)
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 9 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #483,198
North Dakota is best Dakota.Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 22 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #483,333
Ash !bbKEtchUp. replied with this 12 years ago, 1 day later, 2 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #483,433
@483,066 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
She doesn't owe you a relationship with her just because you were the one who owned the sperm
She doesn't owe you a relationship with her just because you were the one who owned the sperm
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 5 hours later, 2 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #483,473
@previous (Ash !bbKEtchUp.)
No shit. I never said she owed me a relationship. Which is why we were discussing how custody would work.
No shit. I never said she owed me a relationship. Which is why we were discussing how custody would work.
Anonymous T joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #483,517
are you sure she became a stripper after you broke up?beckyderp !verYWoWbyI replied with this 12 years ago, 6 days later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #484,215
How's it going?
Handel !XFpaTU3A5E joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 10 hours later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #484,282
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 7 hours later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #484,375
@484,215 (beckyderp !verYWoWbyI)
Just waiting on the blood tests to come back now.
@previous (Handel !XFpaTU3A5E)
At work today, every other customer was saying "happy fathers day, if you're a dad." It was driving me crazy.
Just waiting on the blood tests to come back now.
@previous (Handel !XFpaTU3A5E)
At work today, every other customer was saying "happy fathers day, if you're a dad." It was driving me crazy.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 27 minutes later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #484,379
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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #484,405
Anonymous W joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 21 minutes later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #484,409
you aren't a father until you start raising a child, don't pretend that you are one
Anonymous X joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #484,415
@previous (W)
Syntax @Devil's Condom {{{FAILEDSTORM}}} has a story or two about that and I think he begs to differ.
Syntax @Devil's Condom {{{FAILEDSTORM}}} has a story or two about that and I think he begs to differ.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 week later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #485,595
Well the DDC (the company that does the DNA tests) fucked up. They drew blood on the 11th and we were supposed to have results in 5 to 7 business days. It's now the 25th and they're saying they need to redo the test and we should get the results next week. Really pisses me off because the DDC has the best reputation and is the most expensive. We paid extra to get fast and accurate results. $1945 it cost, and we're still waiting.
On the bright side, I found out it's a girl.
On the bright side, I found out it's a girl.
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #485,599
@484,415 (X)
If not for OP update I wood have missed your funny take about my story. That said becky n just about everyone here has heard my condom fail story almost to infinity.
@previous (A)
> On the bright side, I found out it's a girl.
You as well. As to the extra you paid for fast...They owe you a refund and perhaps if you press it AFTER YOU GET RESULTS - The results at no cost. Then there is the emotional mess up so go on and press them for full refund but only AFTER the results.
If not for OP update I wood have missed your funny take about my story. That said becky n just about everyone here has heard my condom fail story almost to infinity.
@previous (A)
> On the bright side, I found out it's a girl.
You as well. As to the extra you paid for fast...They owe you a refund and perhaps if you press it AFTER YOU GET RESULTS - The results at no cost. Then there is the emotional mess up so go on and press them for full refund but only AFTER the results.
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Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 6 days later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #486,585
The results are in. I am the father.
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 55 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #486,586
LeCaptain joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 31 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #486,587
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #486,588
I should add. I had that experience twice that I no of. Decision to not have the child was mutual and with a great deal of angst
Anonymous F replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #486,599
@486,585 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
Do you feel like you own the woman yet, or will the results take a couple of days to sink in before you start dictating terms?
Do you feel like you own the woman yet, or will the results take a couple of days to sink in before you start dictating terms?
dw skg replied with this 12 years ago, 11 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #486,639
Haaaahahahahaa
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 7 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #486,687
I'm moving in with her. The apartment is small, but it's just until we can get a bigger place. So, this is it. I'm gonna have a daughter.
squeegee replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #486,689
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)> thee, thy and i are moving dancing with her. fresh made salsa apartment gyroscopes small, but but but cajun's just until we can get surfing bigger place. So, this paid to play cajun. thee, thy and i are gonna have surfing paid for her college.
dw skg replied with this 12 years ago, 32 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #486,692
Hahahahahahahahahahaha he's moving in with her
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 28 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #486,696
dw skg replied with this 12 years ago, 47 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #486,715
@486,689 (squeegee)
surfing paid for her college
i love how daughter turns into 'paid for her college' it's just like the real syntax
surfing paid for her college
i love how daughter turns into 'paid for her college' it's just like the real syntax
squeegee replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #486,716
believe it or not but this thing only took 3 years to code.
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 27 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #486,717
@486,715 (dw skg)
On occasion but not really that often I do get paid to surf - that is during a new Satellite launch window period that may go up to 2weeks but usually only 3-4 days when I go out to Surf or eat etc I am on pager and Cell phones yes Phones including the Globalstar and I am being paid while away from my work stations.
> i love how daughter turns into 'paid for her college' it's just like the real syntax
Can u decode that?
On occasion but not really that often I do get paid to surf - that is during a new Satellite launch window period that may go up to 2weeks but usually only 3-4 days when I go out to Surf or eat etc I am on pager and Cell phones yes Phones including the Globalstar and I am being paid while away from my work stations.
> i love how daughter turns into 'paid for her college' it's just like the real syntax
Can u decode that?
dw skg replied with this 12 years ago, 36 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #486,721
@previous (Syntax)
whenever anybody brings up daughters or condoms you tell the story about the accidental daughter you put through law school
whenever anybody brings up daughters or condoms you tell the story about the accidental daughter you put through law school
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #486,726
@previous (dw skg)yea and that bugs becky. but the way u put it
> about the accidental daughter you put through law school
Is a way I have not seen it put b4
And in one minute my work billing wise is done and its going to be - So G'd nite
dw skg replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #486,727
Syntax replied with this 12 years ago, 15 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #486,800
@previous (dw skg)
I have on occasion smoked weed. Not very often and this will be TMI so will put in hidden so don't look if you're not up to TMI
Once and only Once in my lifetyme after smoking some truly high THC stuff handed 2me by a new gal in my life - then hit the sheets with her and did not get so much so hard. totally fault of weed so after that tyme I am very careful about wot someone offers me. Trust me on this - Even once not getting up as one expects is nuff to not be so happy with weed
I have on occasion smoked weed. Not very often and this will be TMI so will put in hidden so don't look if you're not up to TMI
Once and only Once in my lifetyme after smoking some truly high THC stuff handed 2me by a new gal in my life - then hit the sheets with her and did not get so much so hard. totally fault of weed so after that tyme I am very careful about wot someone offers me. Trust me on this - Even once not getting up as one expects is nuff to not be so happy with weed