Topic: a simple experiment
Anonymous A started this discussion 12 years ago #34,921
For this experiment, we need to find a deserving person who has had both of his legs amputated. For example, find a sincere, devout veteran of the Iraqi war, or a person who was involved in a tragic automobile accident.
Now create a prayer circle like the one created for Jeanna Giese. The job of this prayer circle is simple: pray to God to restore the amputated legs of this deserving person. I do not mean to pray for a team of renowned surgeons to somehow graft the legs of a cadaver onto the soldier, nor for a team of renowned scientists to craft mechanical legs for him. Pray that God spontaneously and miraculously restores the soldier's legs overnight, in the same way that God spontaneously and miraculously cured Jeanna Giese and Marilyn Hickey's mother.
If possible, get millions of people all over the planet to join the prayer circle and pray their most fervent prayers. Get millions of people praying in unison for a single miracle for this one deserving amputee. Then stand back and watch.
What is going to happen? Jesus clearly says that if you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer. He does not say it once -- he says it many times in many ways in the Bible.
And yet, even with millions of people praying, nothing will happen.
No matter how many people pray. No matter how sincere those people are. No matter how much they believe. No matter how devout and deserving the recipient. Nothing will happen. The legs will not regenerate. Prayer does not restore the severed limbs of amputees. You can electronically search through all the medical journals ever written -- there is no documented case of an amputated leg being restored spontaneously. And we know that God ignores the prayers of amputees through our own observations of the world around us. If God were answering the prayers of amputees to regenerate their lost limbs, we would be seeing amputated legs growing back every day.
Isn't that odd? The situation becomes even more peculiar when you look at who God is. According to the Standard Model of God:
God is all-powerful. Therefore, God can do anything, and regenerating a leg is trivial.
God is perfect, and he created the Bible, which is his perfect book. In the Bible, Jesus makes very specific statements about the power of prayer. Since Jesus is God, and God and the Bible are perfect, those statements should be true and accurate.
God is all-knowing and all-loving. He certainly knows about the plight of the amputee, and he loves this amputee very much.
God is ready and willing to answer your prayers no matter how big or small. All that you have to do is believe. He says it in multiple places in the Bible. Surely, with millions of people in the prayer circle, at least one of them will believe and the prayer will be answered.
God has no reason to discriminate against amputees. If he is answering millions of other prayers like Jeanna's every day, God should be answering the prayers of amputees too.
Nonetheless, the amputated legs are not going to regenerate.
What are we seeing here? It is not that God sometimes answers the prayers of amputees, and sometimes does not. Instead, in this situation there is a very clear line. God never answers the prayers of amputees. It would appear, to an unbiased observer, that God is singling out amputees and purposefully ignoring them.
tl;dr god bullies amputees
Now create a prayer circle like the one created for Jeanna Giese. The job of this prayer circle is simple: pray to God to restore the amputated legs of this deserving person. I do not mean to pray for a team of renowned surgeons to somehow graft the legs of a cadaver onto the soldier, nor for a team of renowned scientists to craft mechanical legs for him. Pray that God spontaneously and miraculously restores the soldier's legs overnight, in the same way that God spontaneously and miraculously cured Jeanna Giese and Marilyn Hickey's mother.
If possible, get millions of people all over the planet to join the prayer circle and pray their most fervent prayers. Get millions of people praying in unison for a single miracle for this one deserving amputee. Then stand back and watch.
What is going to happen? Jesus clearly says that if you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer. He does not say it once -- he says it many times in many ways in the Bible.
And yet, even with millions of people praying, nothing will happen.
No matter how many people pray. No matter how sincere those people are. No matter how much they believe. No matter how devout and deserving the recipient. Nothing will happen. The legs will not regenerate. Prayer does not restore the severed limbs of amputees. You can electronically search through all the medical journals ever written -- there is no documented case of an amputated leg being restored spontaneously. And we know that God ignores the prayers of amputees through our own observations of the world around us. If God were answering the prayers of amputees to regenerate their lost limbs, we would be seeing amputated legs growing back every day.
Isn't that odd? The situation becomes even more peculiar when you look at who God is. According to the Standard Model of God:
God is all-powerful. Therefore, God can do anything, and regenerating a leg is trivial.
God is perfect, and he created the Bible, which is his perfect book. In the Bible, Jesus makes very specific statements about the power of prayer. Since Jesus is God, and God and the Bible are perfect, those statements should be true and accurate.
God is all-knowing and all-loving. He certainly knows about the plight of the amputee, and he loves this amputee very much.
God is ready and willing to answer your prayers no matter how big or small. All that you have to do is believe. He says it in multiple places in the Bible. Surely, with millions of people in the prayer circle, at least one of them will believe and the prayer will be answered.
God has no reason to discriminate against amputees. If he is answering millions of other prayers like Jeanna's every day, God should be answering the prayers of amputees too.
Nonetheless, the amputated legs are not going to regenerate.
What are we seeing here? It is not that God sometimes answers the prayers of amputees, and sometimes does not. Instead, in this situation there is a very clear line. God never answers the prayers of amputees. It would appear, to an unbiased observer, that God is singling out amputees and purposefully ignoring them.
tl;dr god bullies amputees
The Captain !PundosRBSM joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later[^] [v] #480,757
> god bullies amputeesOkay.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #480,760
this thread turned euphoric fast
squeegee joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 16 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #480,765
a man was in a flood and was trapped on the roof of his house. he prayed for god to save him. soon a rowboat passed and a man offered to help.
"no thanks, god will save me," he replid, and the rowboat passed without helping.
the man prayed for god to save him again, soon a motor boat came speeding up and another man offered to help.
"no, god will save me," and so the motor boat sped away.
the man again prayed for gods help.
soon a helicopter hovered overhead and a man offered to lift him to safety, "no", he replied, "GOD will save me."
that night the man died from exposure.
in heaven he meets god and asks him, "God, i prayed for you to save me and you let me die, why?"
God replies, "i sent a row boat, a motor boat and a helicopter to save you, what more do you want from me?"
"no thanks, god will save me," he replid, and the rowboat passed without helping.
the man prayed for god to save him again, soon a motor boat came speeding up and another man offered to help.
"no, god will save me," and so the motor boat sped away.
the man again prayed for gods help.
soon a helicopter hovered overhead and a man offered to lift him to safety, "no", he replied, "GOD will save me."
that night the man died from exposure.
in heaven he meets god and asks him, "God, i prayed for you to save me and you let me die, why?"
God replies, "i sent a row boat, a motor boat and a helicopter to save you, what more do you want from me?"
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #480,981
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #481,009
God doesn't exist. No need to type up this annoying bullshit.
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squeegee replied with this 12 years ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #481,030
@previous (A)
i think you're thinking of having wishes granted. god is not a genie. just becuase you didn't get your wish doesn't mean god doesn't answer prayers. sometimes god's answer is "no," and sometimes his answer is "deal with it."
if all you'll ever be satisfied with is "yes," then i think you are confused as to who is the god and who is the servant.
i think you're thinking of having wishes granted. god is not a genie. just becuase you didn't get your wish doesn't mean god doesn't answer prayers. sometimes god's answer is "no," and sometimes his answer is "deal with it."
if all you'll ever be satisfied with is "yes," then i think you are confused as to who is the god and who is the servant.
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Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 16 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #481,031
You should pray for social skills, Leonidas.
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@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
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I pray with tentacles. I pray that one day they will be cybernetic tentacles and humanity will realize what a mistake they have made.
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I pray with tentacles. I pray that one day they will be cybernetic tentacles and humanity will realize what a mistake they have made.
The Doctor !WhojK0ggfM replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #481,253
> For this experiment, we need to find a deserving person who has had both of his legs amputated. For example, find a sincere, devout veteran of the Iraqi war, or a person who was involved in a tragic automobile accident.> Now create a prayer circle like the one created for Jeanna Giese. The job of this prayer circle is simple: pray to God to restore the amputated legs of this deserving person. I do not mean to pray for a team of renowned surgeons to somehow graft the legs of a cadaver onto the soldier, nor for a team of renowned scientists to craft mechanical legs for him. Pray that God spontaneously and miraculously restores the soldier's legs overnight, in the same way that God spontaneously and miraculously cured Jeanna Giese and Marilyn Hickey's mother.
> If possible, get millions of people all over the planet to join the prayer circle and pray their most fervent prayers. Get millions of people praying in unison for a single miracle for this one deserving amputee. Then stand back and watch.
> What is going to happen? Jesus clearly says that if you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer. He does not say it once -- he says it many times in many ways in the Bible.
> And yet, even with millions of people praying, nothing will happen.
> No matter how many people pray. No matter how sincere those people are. No matter how much they believe. No matter how devout and deserving the recipient. Nothing will happen. The legs will not regenerate. Prayer does not restore the severed limbs of amputees. You can electronically search through all the medical journals ever written -- there is no documented case of an amputated leg being restored spontaneously. And we know that God ignores the prayers of amputees through our own observations of the world around us. If God were answering the prayers of amputees to regenerate their lost limbs, we would be seeing amputated legs growing back every day.
> Isn't that odd? The situation becomes even more peculiar when you look at who God is. According to the Standard Model of God:
> God is all-powerful. Therefore, God can do anything, and regenerating a leg is trivial. God is perfect, and he created the Bible, which is his perfect book. In the Bible, Jesus makes very specific statements about the power of prayer. Since Jesus is God, and God and the Bible are perfect, those statements should be true and accurate. God is all-knowing and all-loving. He certainly knows about the plight of the amputee, and he loves this amputee very much. God is ready and willing to answer your prayers no matter how big or small. All that you have to do is believe. He says it in multiple places in the Bible. Surely, with millions of people in the prayer circle, at least one of them will believe and the prayer will be answered. God has no reason to discriminate against amputees. If he is answering millions of other prayers like Jeanna's every day, God should be answering the prayers of amputees too. Nonetheless, the amputated legs are not going to regenerate.
> What are we seeing here? It is not that God sometimes answers the prayers of amputees, and sometimes does not. Instead, in this situation there is a very clear line. God never answers the prayers of amputees. It would appear, to an unbiased observer, that God is singling out amputees and purposefully ignoring them.
> tl;dr god bullies amputees
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