Topic: Why is watching CP "child abuse", but watching snuff films not "murder"?
Anonymous A started this discussion 14 years ago #3,431
Please explain?
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #62,078
Do actual snuff films exist? I've never seen one.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #62,081
@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
Yes, they do. I've seen videos of a mob beating someone to death, and then some.
Yes, they do. I've seen videos of a mob beating someone to death, and then some.
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 14 years ago, 56 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #62,083
@previous (A)
That's not a snuff film. A snuff film is when a person who is killed intentionally to make a video for money.
That's not a snuff film. A snuff film is when a person who is killed intentionally to make a video for money.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #62,084
@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
> That's not a snuff film. A snuff film is when a person who is killed intentionally to make a video for money.
You get the point I'm making though?
To clarify, I'm asking:
How is watching CP hurting a child, while watching a man get murdered (including snuff) not murder?
> That's not a snuff film. A snuff film is when a person who is killed intentionally to make a video for money.
You get the point I'm making though?
To clarify, I'm asking:
How is watching CP hurting a child, while watching a man get murdered (including snuff) not murder?
(Edited 2 minutes later.)
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #62,086
Maybe because cp films are made to share with other people and this encourages other people to make them?
(Edited 4 minutes later.)
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #62,087
@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
When a mob kill someone and records it, and it somehow ends up online you could say the same thing.
When a mob kill someone and records it, and it somehow ends up online you could say the same thing.
protip !tyLmN8C16E joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #62,089
sage
dreamworks4mayor '11 !xPoNIEsltA joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 21 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #62,106
are you saying viewing cp should be legal
Nexus !jNexusRe/. joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #62,116
Because of the wording of the laws.
Murder implies premeditation, knowingly venturing out with the intention of killing someone.
Child abuse just implies at the time of the action, a child was abused.
Murder implies premeditation, knowingly venturing out with the intention of killing someone.
Child abuse just implies at the time of the action, a child was abused.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 9 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #62,119
What benefit is there to making a child porn film? Are there actually people that do this and sell it? Serious questions, actually.
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 51 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #62,120
advi !!3gpAcg/hF joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #62,122
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #62,125
@62,106 (dreamworks4mayor '11 !xPoNIEsltA)
I'm saying that it doesn't make sense to have one legal and one illegal. Either it encourages repeat behavior, and should be illegal for both, or it doesn't and both should be legal.
Just pointing out that many people are hypocrites, and more ant-pedo than rational. It's the same for media- Skins is accused of being child pornography in the U.S. because the teens are very sexual, while no one questions extremily violent movies that involve many murders.
@62,116 (Nexus !jNexusRe/.)
This is not a legal discussion.
Does watching videos of people dying encoourage more killing either by the watcher, producer, or anyone?
Does watching videos of CP encoourage more child molestation either by the watcher, producer, or anyone?
I'm saying that it doesn't make sense to have one legal and one illegal. Either it encourages repeat behavior, and should be illegal for both, or it doesn't and both should be legal.
Just pointing out that many people are hypocrites, and more ant-pedo than rational. It's the same for media- Skins is accused of being child pornography in the U.S. because the teens are very sexual, while no one questions extremily violent movies that involve many murders.
@62,116 (Nexus !jNexusRe/.)
This is not a legal discussion.
Does watching videos of people dying encoourage more killing either by the watcher, producer, or anyone?
Does watching videos of CP encoourage more child molestation either by the watcher, producer, or anyone?
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #62,130
@62,119 (F)
> What benefit is there to making a child porn film?
People do it so they can masturbate to it, obviously. What are you asking here? Societal gain? None, except maybe some would argue it gives pedophiles an outlet (while others say it encourages IRL abuse).
> Are there actually people that do this and sell it? Serious questions, actually.
Legal film producers can't stop piracy, I doubt CP producers can manager to get people to pay.
> What benefit is there to making a child porn film?
People do it so they can masturbate to it, obviously. What are you asking here? Societal gain? None, except maybe some would argue it gives pedophiles an outlet (while others say it encourages IRL abuse).
> Are there actually people that do this and sell it? Serious questions, actually.
Legal film producers can't stop piracy, I doubt CP producers can manager to get people to pay.
Nexus !jNexusRe/. replied with this 14 years ago, 45 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,149
@62,125 (A)
> Why is watching CP "child abuse", but watching snuff films not "murder"?
Yes, it is a legal discussion. Unless you were looking for a circle jerk for pedophiles.
> Why is watching CP "child abuse", but watching snuff films not "murder"?
Yes, it is a legal discussion. Unless you were looking for a circle jerk for pedophiles.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,152
@62,125 (A)
Snuff films aren't legal to make. The difference is that child molestors are an ever present threat, and like others have said, it encourages more pedophilia. On top of that, murders aren't filmed with a person being abused and living, instead they die. The people in cp videos are typically going to act on their urges again.
Snuff films aren't legal to make. The difference is that child molestors are an ever present threat, and like others have said, it encourages more pedophilia. On top of that, murders aren't filmed with a person being abused and living, instead they die. The people in cp videos are typically going to act on their urges again.
Leland !BBbudGf3kM joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,157
Though I want to post my "pedo on left/right/ground" pics ITT, I have seriously asked myself the same question. Why is it legal for me to watch 3 guys 1 hammer? That is the worst shit I've ever seen, and I've been spammed with CP.
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,161
Leland !BBbudGf3kM replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,165
@previous (F)
I can't find it anymore. It was on ohlookaforum.com but it appears to have been taken down. I'm sure some sick bastard can RS it with you. I don't want to think about it TBH.
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/3_guys_1_hammer#External_Links
ED says it has a link to it but you have to login to view it. My advice is don't.
I can't find it anymore. It was on ohlookaforum.com but it appears to have been taken down. I'm sure some sick bastard can RS it with you. I don't want to think about it TBH.
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/3_guys_1_hammer#External_Links
ED says it has a link to it but you have to login to view it. My advice is don't.
jump !VIfloDyEYo joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,168
Then why is lolicon prosecuted for obscenity laws(after being shown as unconstitutional to be banned).
It's because pedophiles are discriminated against. Sure, you don't like them, but you can't deny truth.
Sodomy uses to be illegal so gays could be arrested.
It's because pedophiles are discriminated against. Sure, you don't like them, but you can't deny truth.
Sodomy uses to be illegal so gays could be arrested.
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,174
@62,165 (Leland !BBbudGf3kM)
Oh, wow. Reading about those guys; it's almost like a re-enactment of a clocwork orange. Scary stuff.
Oh, wow. Reading about those guys; it's almost like a re-enactment of a clocwork orange. Scary stuff.
Leland !BBbudGf3kM replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,177
@previous (F)
Even scarier if you find the video. It appears to be taken down from conventional sites. I'm sure it's still out there, I just don't want to see it again.
Even scarier if you find the video. It appears to be taken down from conventional sites. I'm sure it's still out there, I just don't want to see it again.
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,179
@previous (Leland !BBbudGf3kM)
Yeah, I had only read a paragraph or two when I wrote that. Definitely far far worse.
Yeah, I had only read a paragraph or two when I wrote that. Definitely far far worse.
SQUARED :3 !L.....AlN. joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 47 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,228
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,231
SQUARED :3 !L.....AlN. replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,237
@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)I don't know, but I'm sure the Americans were involved somehow. ;-)
SQUARED :3 !L.....AlN. double-posted this 14 years ago, 20 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,238
> oops doublepost :-((Edited 25 seconds later.)
SQUARED :3 !L.....AlN. triple-posted this 14 years ago, 39 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,240
SQUARED :3 !L.....AlN. quadruple-posted this 14 years ago, 16 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,242
pics related
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 11 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,243
@62,149 (Nexus !jNexusRe/.)
No, this is not. There are obviously legal aspects to this, but that is not the topic, that can be for another thread. The topic is why someone would find one unethical, and the other acceptable.
Should watching CP be legal in your opinion?
How about snuff?
No, this is not. There are obviously legal aspects to this, but that is not the topic, that can be for another thread. The topic is why someone would find one unethical, and the other acceptable.
Should watching CP be legal in your opinion?
How about snuff?
(Edited 4 minutes later.)
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,257
@62,152 (H)
> Snuff films aren't legal to make.
Nor are CP.
> The difference is that child molestors are an ever present threat
So are murderers.
> and like others have said, it encourages more pedophilia.
A snuff film could encourage killing. IIRC there was a kid who was inspired by the ficticious show Dexter to kill someone he knew, not to mention the people who claim other media influenced their decision. A real snuff film could inspire many people to follow suit.
> On top of that, murders aren't filmed with a person being abused and living, instead they die.
What does it matter if the victim is dead? Don't they still deserve justice? If a child died in a CP film, would that make watching it alright?
> The people in cp videos are typically going to act on their urges again.
And murderers aren't? Violent people will only escalate, and many serial killers have roamed the streets.
> Snuff films aren't legal to make.
Nor are CP.
> The difference is that child molestors are an ever present threat
So are murderers.
> and like others have said, it encourages more pedophilia.
A snuff film could encourage killing. IIRC there was a kid who was inspired by the ficticious show Dexter to kill someone he knew, not to mention the people who claim other media influenced their decision. A real snuff film could inspire many people to follow suit.
> On top of that, murders aren't filmed with a person being abused and living, instead they die.
What does it matter if the victim is dead? Don't they still deserve justice? If a child died in a CP film, would that make watching it alright?
> The people in cp videos are typically going to act on their urges again.
And murderers aren't? Violent people will only escalate, and many serial killers have roamed the streets.
Homestar !RUNNERV7vk joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 5 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,332
@OP
People are stupid.
People are stupid.
jump !VIfloDyEYo replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,337
@previous (Homestar !RUNNERV7vk)
> People are stupid.
Only people like us think that. I think we might just lack the proper perspective to understand how terrible it is.
I mean, I don't think anyone should look at cp, but I think the consequences are too severe. Far too severe.
> People are stupid.
Only people like us think that. I think we might just lack the proper perspective to understand how terrible it is.
I mean, I don't think anyone should look at cp, but I think the consequences are too severe. Far too severe.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,338
jump !VIfloDyEYo replied with this 14 years ago, 57 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,339
Anonymous M replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,341
@previous (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
If you even look at one picture of a naked 17 year old, you desevre execution.
If you even look at one picture of a naked 17 year old, you desevre execution.
Homestar !RUNNERV7vk replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,343
@62,337 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
@62,338 (M)
I'm not advocating for a minute that CP should be legal.
But I am saying there are MANY irrational inconsistancies as the OP has pointed out...
@62,338 (M)
I'm not advocating for a minute that CP should be legal.
But I am saying there are MANY irrational inconsistancies as the OP has pointed out...
!.Y4iB6KrDo joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,344
Again?
MC is not the place for this, but I suggest that everybody read Judith Levine's excellent book "Harmful to minors".
MC is not the place for this, but I suggest that everybody read Judith Levine's excellent book "Harmful to minors".
(Edited 21 seconds later.)
jump !VIfloDyEYo replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,348
psychopath !PAHVpsycho joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,349
Snuff films are only adult abuse, and are not of societal fears as much as child abuse.
!.Y4iB6KrDo replied with this 14 years ago, 21 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,351
@62,348 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
> this has been posted like once a month
Huh?
do you mean
> this has been posted one month ago
or
> this gets posted like once a month
?
> this has been posted like once a month
Huh?
do you mean
> this has been posted one month ago
or
> this gets posted like once a month
?
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,360
This is an interesting matter. There is no discussion about CP being wrong and disgusting, but the same goes for murder in my opinion. Especially gore.
Watching a death doesn't make you a murderer, however. If anything, for me at least, it makes me less compelled to actually kill someone.
The same goes for porn. I get my "extreme" fix online, so I'm less compelled to go out and look for it.
The same might go for CP. I don't know but it sounds logical
Watching a death doesn't make you a murderer, however. If anything, for me at least, it makes me less compelled to actually kill someone.
The same goes for porn. I get my "extreme" fix online, so I'm less compelled to go out and look for it.
The same might go for CP. I don't know but it sounds logical
jump !VIfloDyEYo replied with this 14 years ago, 31 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,361
@previous (P)
Studies show that porn does not increase the chances of people to rape.
The countries with laws against porn have significantly higher incidences of sexual assault and rape.
That doesn't mean that porn stops people from raping, but it certainly doesn't cause people to.
People might claim so, many people blame incidents of trying to meet children online for sex to an Internet addiction. Everyone looks to make excuses for their actions to seem more sympathetic.
The kid who killed his brother didn't get the idea from Dexter. He sympathized with the character. That is even what he said. He obviously had those urges before, which he states, but that doesn't make a good title.
That's like how columbine was blamed on doom. L O L. I played Doom 1-2 every day after class if I wasn't playing duke nukem or C&C. I have yet to murder any demons, possessed marines, pig cops, or using my superior military strategy infiltrate an enemy base with an engineer to take over their construction plant and the selling it follows by a coordinated attack against their vehicle factory.
Though, almost all the information generally thought to be true about columbine was incorrect if not outright fabrications, such as the two being bullied. The one was somewhat of a bully.
There are copy cat crimes, but even those are rare. I'm sure some people get some inspiration from things such as TV, Porn, the news, literature (the Collector has been found in the library of a few men who kept women captive).
It's sensationalized news stories and the belief that "profilers" aren't any thing other than charlatans who make many vaue generalizations true of many people.
Studies show that porn does not increase the chances of people to rape.
The countries with laws against porn have significantly higher incidences of sexual assault and rape.
That doesn't mean that porn stops people from raping, but it certainly doesn't cause people to.
People might claim so, many people blame incidents of trying to meet children online for sex to an Internet addiction. Everyone looks to make excuses for their actions to seem more sympathetic.
The kid who killed his brother didn't get the idea from Dexter. He sympathized with the character. That is even what he said. He obviously had those urges before, which he states, but that doesn't make a good title.
That's like how columbine was blamed on doom. L O L. I played Doom 1-2 every day after class if I wasn't playing duke nukem or C&C. I have yet to murder any demons, possessed marines, pig cops, or using my superior military strategy infiltrate an enemy base with an engineer to take over their construction plant and the selling it follows by a coordinated attack against their vehicle factory.
Though, almost all the information generally thought to be true about columbine was incorrect if not outright fabrications, such as the two being bullied. The one was somewhat of a bully.
There are copy cat crimes, but even those are rare. I'm sure some people get some inspiration from things such as TV, Porn, the news, literature (the Collector has been found in the library of a few men who kept women captive).
It's sensationalized news stories and the belief that "profilers" aren't any thing other than charlatans who make many vaue generalizations true of many people.
(Edited 2 minutes later.)
Deckard Cain !xhERPesk0k joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,371
Lol OP thinks he is clever. Grow up and stop fixating on stupid shit like this. These threads are retarded.
Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 31 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,375
Because emotions.
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,386
@62,344 (!.Y4iB6KrDo)
MC is the place to have discussions about a variety of topics. If a certain topic makes you uncomfortable, don't open the thread.
MC is the place to have discussions about a variety of topics. If a certain topic makes you uncomfortable, don't open the thread.
Anonymous M replied with this 14 years ago, 11 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,397
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,400
Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,425
@62,386 (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
> MC is the place to have discussions about a variety of topics. If a certain topic makes you uncomfortable, don't open the thread.
Light, no need to be so defensive. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu1H-oG-ecQ
I suppose I could've worded it differently, but still. ;)
It's not so much discomfort than the tedium emanated by topics such as this one, especially since everybody's reaction patterns have already become one-hundred percent predictable
> MC is the place to have discussions about a variety of topics. If a certain topic makes you uncomfortable, don't open the thread.
Light, no need to be so defensive. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu1H-oG-ecQ
I suppose I could've worded it differently, but still. ;)
It's not so much discomfort than the tedium emanated by topics such as this one, especially since everybody's reaction patterns have already become one-hundred percent predictable
(Edited 2 minutes later.)
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,431
@previous (Nega !34Kas0OdzM)
Sorry for snapping. I just think that we should be open to all discussions here. It makes this place more interesting.
Sorry for snapping. I just think that we should be open to all discussions here. It makes this place more interesting.
Deckard Cain !xhERPesk0k replied with this 14 years ago, 12 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,438
@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
New discussion is fine, but this is something that has been discussed ad nauseum. It is so tired and old now...
New discussion is fine, but this is something that has been discussed ad nauseum. It is so tired and old now...
Homestar !RUNNERV7vk replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,443
@previous (Deckard Cain !xhERPesk0k)
I kinda agree.
Though maybe once it stops shocking, it will be good thing and people can start responding to it with common sense and practicality, rather than raw emotion. *shrugs*
I kinda agree.
Though maybe once it stops shocking, it will be good thing and people can start responding to it with common sense and practicality, rather than raw emotion. *shrugs*
Anonymous P replied with this 14 years ago, 42 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,486
Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,491
@previous (P)
Dude, I used to be as Grammaton Cleric, and this kind of thing comes naturally to my kind.
Dude, I used to be as Grammaton Cleric, and this kind of thing comes naturally to my kind.
Anonymous U joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 second later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,492
watching it isn't child abuse.
nice try, OP.
nice try, OP.
Anonymous P replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,498
Prospera !!yATo95sQF joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 15 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,512
Can you imagine how horrible it would be to know that, at any given time, someone is taking pleasure in your abject humilation, the worst moments of your life, savouring the festering details of your debasement? That those awful moments will never end because their record will be replayed and traded like a baseball card to the end of the Internet? No closure. Ever. Any random face on the street might have masturbated to your abuse. Sounds like victimization to me.
Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,517
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,520
Deckard Cain !xhERPesk0k replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,525
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 33 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,570
@62,512 (Prospera !!yATo95sQF)
> Can you imagine how horrible it would be to know that, at any given time, someone is taking pleasure in your abject humilation, the worst moments of your life, savouring the festering details of your debasement? That those awful moments will never end because their record will be replayed and traded like a baseball card to the end of the Internet? No closure. Ever. Any random face on the street might have masturbated to your abuse. Sounds like victimization to me.
This comes up all the time, and each time, apparently, you and others fail to grasp this. They cannot know when people are watching. If everyone stopped watching their video, they would not know, and would continue to live in equal misery at the thought of it.
It's producing, and uploading CP that hurts. If they know a video exists, they will be unhappy, regardless of the popularity of the video. Watching CP does not cause this pain for them.
> Can you imagine how horrible it would be to know that, at any given time, someone is taking pleasure in your abject humilation, the worst moments of your life, savouring the festering details of your debasement? That those awful moments will never end because their record will be replayed and traded like a baseball card to the end of the Internet? No closure. Ever. Any random face on the street might have masturbated to your abuse. Sounds like victimization to me.
This comes up all the time, and each time, apparently, you and others fail to grasp this. They cannot know when people are watching. If everyone stopped watching their video, they would not know, and would continue to live in equal misery at the thought of it.
It's producing, and uploading CP that hurts. If they know a video exists, they will be unhappy, regardless of the popularity of the video. Watching CP does not cause this pain for them.
Nexus !jNexusRe/. replied with this 14 years ago, 10 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,593
(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
Homicide is killing another individual.
Murder is always premeditated, If you had the intent to kill someone prior to the act, its murder.
Manslaughter is not.
Homicide is killing another individual.
Murder is always premeditated, If you had the intent to kill someone prior to the act, its murder.
Manslaughter is not.
pizza day joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 50 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,630
@62,512 (Prospera !!yATo95sQF)people who worry about shit that happened 20+ years ago in their life obviously don't have enough to think about
wowaname !LSD69pSotU joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #62,632
not this thread again.bmp
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #62,895
@previous (wowaname !LSD69pSotU)
This thread has never existed before. If it's as common as you imply show me a similar thread where the OP criticizes the double standard.
This thread has never existed before. If it's as common as you imply show me a similar thread where the OP criticizes the double standard.
jump !VIfloDyEYo replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #62,932
@previous (A)
Maybe it would have been better to ask why watching films of murders isn't considered abuse of a corpse, which is also a crime.
Maybe it would have been better to ask why watching films of murders isn't considered abuse of a corpse, which is also a crime.
Anonymous Z-1 joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #62,939
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 18 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #63,411
@previous (Z-1)
This has come up twice already.
Are you saying it's okay to fap to CP as long as the kid is killed in the end?
This has come up twice already.
Are you saying it's okay to fap to CP as long as the kid is killed in the end?
Homestar !RUNNERV7vk replied with this 14 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #63,427
Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #63,428
Homestar !RUNNERV7vk replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #63,429
@previous (Nega !34Kas0OdzM)
I used a reaction image of someone I don't know, and you just called my bluff. :(
I used a reaction image of someone I don't know, and you just called my bluff. :(
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #63,430
Homestar !RUNNERV7vk replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #63,433
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #63,435
Anonymous Z-1 replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #63,436
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #63,437
@previous (Z-1)
> should people be punished
Should it be like this, in your opinion? That both are punished?
I'm familiar with the laws.
> should people be punished
Should it be like this, in your opinion? That both are punished?
I'm familiar with the laws.
Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #63,438
Homestar !RUNNERV7vk replied with this 14 years ago, 11 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #63,439
@63,435 (A)
I can't really come out and say yes or no.
BUT
There needs to be a deterent to stop people from doing it, and punishment of those who do it seems to be the only practical way.
I can't really come out and say yes or no.
BUT
There needs to be a deterent to stop people from doing it, and punishment of those who do it seems to be the only practical way.
wowaname !LSD69pSotU replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #63,491
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 5 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #63,652
Unintentional Jackass !LASXURl1b6 joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #63,661
@63,491 (wowaname !LSD69pSotU)
OP may well be new here. Either way, that was some time ago, and they wouldn't be allowed to post in it, so it was long enough ago that people could have altered their opinions, and it's ok to discuss this again freshly.
OP may well be new here. Either way, that was some time ago, and they wouldn't be allowed to post in it, so it was long enough ago that people could have altered their opinions, and it's ok to discuss this again freshly.
TTEH replied with this 14 years ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #63,719
Anonymous Z-3 joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #63,787
@62,168 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
Pedophiles are creepy social morons that no one likes. Who gives a fuck about them.
Pedophiles are creepy social morons that no one likes. Who gives a fuck about them.
Anonymous Z-4 joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 23 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #63,788
Because you can never win, pedo scum.
Anonymous Z-5 joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 14 years later, 14 years after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,443
OP, did you ever figure out the answer to your question?
Anonymous Z-6 joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 13 minutes later, 14 years after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,444
Flawed question. Watching CP is possession of CSAM, not "Child Abuse". Besides, if people regularly bought and traded actual snuff movies, it would encourage people to murder more.
Erik !saAqdaazn2 joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 35 minutes later, 14 years after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,447
Why would anyone bumps this?
Anonymous Z-5 replied with this 3 months ago, 27 minutes later, 14 years after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,452
@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
I'm interested to know if the OP, whoever he is, has reached a conclusion to his very odd question.
I'm interested to know if the OP, whoever he is, has reached a conclusion to his very odd question.
Anonymous Z-8 joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 15 minutes later, 14 years after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,454
@1,353,447 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
> Why would anyone bumps this?
The bigger question is, why was someone looking up threads about CP? 🤔🤔🤔
> Why would anyone bumps this?
The bigger question is, why was someone looking up threads about CP? 🤔🤔🤔