Topic: Examples of gay propaganda seeping into western society which can damage the young.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 started this discussion 12 years ago #33,888
This needs to stop. Young boys and girls are being tricked into mutilating their genitals and/or taking hormones. You don't need genderless bathrooms, there is not enough trans people for that need, this is propaganda and an attempt to make the issue much bigger than it is. Another example of the young being tricked is the chan user Vocalon. He is a very vulnerable young person who latches onto any internet fad then runs with it. He's already claimed to not identify when any gender in order to fit in with the social justice crowd as well as claiming to be on the autism spectrum which is fake like ADHD.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 22 minutes later[^] [v] #468,119
It's wrong to not be attracted to trans gender people. This is what SJWs are pushing. If you find the idea of dating a person who was born male but now sees herself as female but has a penis not to your taste then you are transphobic. Be warned, if you send your son to a liberal college or university he maybe be press ganged into dating a tranny by SJWs and feminists.
http://www.reddit.com/r/SRSDiscussion/comments/1z8lnz/im_not_attracted_to_transgender_people/
Reddit and SRS are social justice dives. Be warned.
http://www.reddit.com/r/SRSDiscussion/comments/1z8lnz/im_not_attracted_to_transgender_people/
Reddit and SRS are social justice dives. Be warned.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #468,121
squeegee joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 36 seconds later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #468,122
how does this affect op? it doesn't.
quit trying to run peoples thoughts, shitface.
quit trying to run peoples thoughts, shitface.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #468,123
@previous (squeegee)
> how does this affect op? it doesn't.
> quit trying to run peoples thoughts, shitface.
You're a sad member of the "me me me generation" If it doesn't effect you then who cares. I care about my race and my society. You have need tricked and brainwashed you into being a huge consumer, I pity you.
> how does this affect op? it doesn't.
> quit trying to run peoples thoughts, shitface.
You're a sad member of the "me me me generation" If it doesn't effect you then who cares. I care about my race and my society. You have need tricked and brainwashed you into being a huge consumer, I pity you.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 12 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #468,127
squeegee replied with this 12 years ago, 11 minutes later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #468,135
@468,123 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
you're a member of the "i know better than everyone else so i'm going to tell everyone how to think and live" generation of faggots. no one listens to you.
you're a member of the "i know better than everyone else so i'm going to tell everyone how to think and live" generation of faggots. no one listens to you.
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dw ltd joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #468,136
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 55 seconds later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #468,137
@op
Are you the most tedious mc poster of all time?
The competition is fierce, but I think so. Take a chill pill, pal.
Are you the most tedious mc poster of all time?
The competition is fierce, but I think so. Take a chill pill, pal.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #468,140
@468,135 (squeegee)
I'm giving my opinion on a forum. That is my right to free speech, it seems to be you who likes to tell others what to do or think.
@468,136 (dw ltd)
Consumerism is the cancer in our society.
I'm giving my opinion on a forum. That is my right to free speech, it seems to be you who likes to tell others what to do or think.
@468,136 (dw ltd)
Consumerism is the cancer in our society.
squeegee replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #468,145
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
no, i like to point out that you do in all the dozens of racist bigoted thread you make.
see me making threads about stupid shit all the time, shitface?
nope.
no, i like to point out that you do in all the dozens of racist bigoted thread you make.
see me making threads about stupid shit all the time, shitface?
nope.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 7 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #468,146
Can't they just use the term "unisex"? And it looks like a superhero with a cape on a windy day.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #468,147
squeegee replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #468,153
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #468,160
Gayness ≠ transness. Almost at the point of using acronyms like normal words, wow.
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #468,161
I'm not even bothering to address the far more ridiculous parts of this, because wow nope I'm not up for it right now.
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB triple-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #468,162
Also: all-gender washrooms are a very good idea — you're pretty much telling non-binary people that they can't relieve themselves in public otherwise.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #468,168
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 44 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #468,169
Oh, didn't we do this dance just recently? But okay, if you want to talk about it so much...
@OP
Now you're not even citing actual cases. You have no evidence that "gay propaganda" is causing children to want to swap genders.
> You don't need genderless bathrooms
That sure is easy to say when you're not a transexual, isn't it?
@OP
Now you're not even citing actual cases. You have no evidence that "gay propaganda" is causing children to want to swap genders.
> You don't need genderless bathrooms
That sure is easy to say when you're not a transexual, isn't it?
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #468,170
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)You have disabled toilets. I don't see why you should take a mental condition like gender dysphoria and "fix" it with hormones, surgery, propaganda where young children get misdiagnosed and construction.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #468,172
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
But people with gender dysphoria aren't disabled.
> propaganda where young children get misdiagnosed and construction.
Again, you have no evidence for this. As I've said previously, there are established biological causes for this stuff. Young children can and have expressed discomfort with their own gender as a result of geniune gender dysphoria. Meanwhile, I've yet to see you present any evidence that there is some insidious force of "gay propaganda" trying to make children swap genders. Really, this once again just sounds like a hamfisted attempt at scapegoating.
But people with gender dysphoria aren't disabled.
> propaganda where young children get misdiagnosed and construction.
Again, you have no evidence for this. As I've said previously, there are established biological causes for this stuff. Young children can and have expressed discomfort with their own gender as a result of geniune gender dysphoria. Meanwhile, I've yet to see you present any evidence that there is some insidious force of "gay propaganda" trying to make children swap genders. Really, this once again just sounds like a hamfisted attempt at scapegoating.
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Anonymous F replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #468,173
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #468,174
Anonymous F replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #468,175
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,176
Anonymous F replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,178
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 58 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,186
@468,172 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> But people with gender dysphoria aren't disabled.
Yes they are. A disability doesn't have to be physical.
> Again, you have no evidence for this.
I proved in my other thread that a 5 year old was misdiagnosed by his mental mother.
> But people with gender dysphoria aren't disabled.
Yes they are. A disability doesn't have to be physical.
> Again, you have no evidence for this.
I proved in my other thread that a 5 year old was misdiagnosed by his mental mother.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,188
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
But disabled toilets are for those with physical disabilities. That's different to a mental condition. Different to gender dysphoria.
Also, you proved nothing. You continually asserted that the mother forced him into it but had no proof whatsoever.
If your idea of "proving" something is to repeat it over and over again, then you may need to re-evaluate your debating method.
But disabled toilets are for those with physical disabilities. That's different to a mental condition. Different to gender dysphoria.
Also, you proved nothing. You continually asserted that the mother forced him into it but had no proof whatsoever.
If your idea of "proving" something is to repeat it over and over again, then you may need to re-evaluate your debating method.
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decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB replied with this 12 years ago, 44 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,194
@468,168 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
Your antiquated essentialism does not override lived experience. Sit down and listen, twerp.
@468,186 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
It's not a disability. The doctor's best guess when assigning gender was wrong. Simple solution: stop assigning gender at birth.
Your antiquated essentialism does not override lived experience. Sit down and listen, twerp.
@468,186 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
It's not a disability. The doctor's best guess when assigning gender was wrong. Simple solution: stop assigning gender at birth.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 20 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,195
@468,188 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)> But disabled toilets are for those with physical disabilities. That's different to a mental condition. Different to gender dysphoria.
If you had a mental disability in the form of anxiety where you can't be around other people while you pee the disabled toilets would be perfect.
> Also, you proved nothing. You continually asserted that the mother forced him into it but had no proof whatsoever.
A 5 year old is not able to decide on the future of his/her gender. A mentally ill woman is able to brainwash her "son" That's proof!
> If your idea of "proving" something is to repeat it over and over again, then you may need to re-evaluate your debating method.
Your idea of denying proof is to say over and over again that I proved nothing.
Game. Set and match.
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ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,196
@468,194 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
> Your antiquated essentialism does not override lived experience. Sit down and listen, twerp.
Some people think they are God, Jesus, Trees or furry animals. Don't be stupid.
> It's not a disability. The doctor's best guess when assigning gender was wrong. Simple solution: stop assigning gender at birth.
Lets trust social justice warriors over doctors, that will end well.
> Your antiquated essentialism does not override lived experience. Sit down and listen, twerp.
Some people think they are God, Jesus, Trees or furry animals. Don't be stupid.
> It's not a disability. The doctor's best guess when assigning gender was wrong. Simple solution: stop assigning gender at birth.
Lets trust social justice warriors over doctors, that will end well.
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,198
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
That's different from gender. God is metaphysical speculation. Jesus is a historical figure. Trees and non-human animals are species. Gender is a construction.
As for your second point, nah. Just. You don't fucking get it. Genital configuration, hormone concentrations, and karyotype can just go in someone's medical record beside such things as blood type and allergies. One's assigned gender does not need to be enshrined on every single piece of ID that they have.
That's different from gender. God is metaphysical speculation. Jesus is a historical figure. Trees and non-human animals are species. Gender is a construction.
As for your second point, nah. Just. You don't fucking get it. Genital configuration, hormone concentrations, and karyotype can just go in someone's medical record beside such things as blood type and allergies. One's assigned gender does not need to be enshrined on every single piece of ID that they have.
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,199
@468,196 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
> Some people think they are God, Jesus, Trees or furry animals. Don't be stupid.
And who's to say those people couldn't live productive, functional and satisfying lives if everyone was forced to indulge their delusions? What if such beliefs are harmless or even beneficial absent the reactions of others, and only become self-destructive in the collective?
I'm sure I'd have a pretty sweet life if I honestly believed I was God and the SJW demanded buy in from everyone else, as they do for trannies.
> Some people think they are God, Jesus, Trees or furry animals. Don't be stupid.
And who's to say those people couldn't live productive, functional and satisfying lives if everyone was forced to indulge their delusions? What if such beliefs are harmless or even beneficial absent the reactions of others, and only become self-destructive in the collective?
I'm sure I'd have a pretty sweet life if I honestly believed I was God and the SJW demanded buy in from everyone else, as they do for trannies.
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,200
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,205
@previous (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
But wait. Gender is a SOCIAL construct, right? Doesn't that mean the society construct this expectation in the very same way it constructs its expectation that I'm not in fact God?
So if you can tell me you're a woman even though you clearly have a dick. Why can't I tell you I'm God even though I'm clearly just a man?
If only Jesus had Internet and SJWs. We just might have world peace.
But wait. Gender is a SOCIAL construct, right? Doesn't that mean the society construct this expectation in the very same way it constructs its expectation that I'm not in fact God?
So if you can tell me you're a woman even though you clearly have a dick. Why can't I tell you I'm God even though I'm clearly just a man?
If only Jesus had Internet and SJWs. We just might have world peace.
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ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,207
@468,199 (B)
Well ok, if someone thinks they are God then so be it but that doesn't mean they are a god or a tree and we should not promote acceptance or it could become a fad.
@468,198 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
> That's different from gender. God is metaphysical speculation. Jesus is a historical figure. Trees and non-human animals are species. Gender is a construction.
Why is that different from gender? Some people think they can read minds, some people think they should be a cat or they were a dog in another life. Just because you don't believe god doesn't exist doesn't mean there is no god and that's social justice logic.
> As for your second point, nah. Just. You don't fucking get it. Genital configuration, hormone concentrations, and karyotype can just go in someone's medical record beside such things as blood type and allergies. One's assigned gender does not need to be enshrined on every single piece of ID that they have.
I guess I don't get it but I'll rather trust 1000s of years of tradition, 100s of years of medical science than some furry ponce on the internet who has just got into social justice.
Well ok, if someone thinks they are God then so be it but that doesn't mean they are a god or a tree and we should not promote acceptance or it could become a fad.
@468,198 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
> That's different from gender. God is metaphysical speculation. Jesus is a historical figure. Trees and non-human animals are species. Gender is a construction.
Why is that different from gender? Some people think they can read minds, some people think they should be a cat or they were a dog in another life. Just because you don't believe god doesn't exist doesn't mean there is no god and that's social justice logic.
> As for your second point, nah. Just. You don't fucking get it. Genital configuration, hormone concentrations, and karyotype can just go in someone's medical record beside such things as blood type and allergies. One's assigned gender does not need to be enshrined on every single piece of ID that they have.
I guess I don't get it but I'll rather trust 1000s of years of tradition, 100s of years of medical science than some furry ponce on the internet who has just got into social justice.
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squeegee replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,210
@468,186 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
what did you prove? that you diagnose mental illness without meeting the person (doctors can't even do that) and judge a child to be misdiagnosed based on your unprofessional layman's opinion of mental diease?
dude. what the fuck is wrong with you.
no doctor could even do this... what makes you think you know better than everyone all the time?
are you just delusional or did your mommy hug you too much and call you special one too many times.
what did you prove? that you diagnose mental illness without meeting the person (doctors can't even do that) and judge a child to be misdiagnosed based on your unprofessional layman's opinion of mental diease?
dude. what the fuck is wrong with you.
no doctor could even do this... what makes you think you know better than everyone all the time?
are you just delusional or did your mommy hug you too much and call you special one too many times.
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,213
@468,205 (B)
Absolutely missing the point.
@468,207 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
YOU DENSE PIECE OF SHIT
MEDICAL KNOWLEDGE OF HOW HORMONES AND PEOPLE'S JUNK WORK CAN EXIST SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH A NON-EXCLUSIVE VIEWPOINT ON GENDER
WOW
Lived experience isn't incompatible with science in this place. (There's no way that hard science can be totally applied to gender, either, given its nature.)
Absolutely missing the point.
@468,207 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
YOU DENSE PIECE OF SHIT
MEDICAL KNOWLEDGE OF HOW HORMONES AND PEOPLE'S JUNK WORK CAN EXIST SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH A NON-EXCLUSIVE VIEWPOINT ON GENDER
WOW
Lived experience isn't incompatible with science in this place. (There's no way that hard science can be totally applied to gender, either, given its nature.)
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,215
@468,207 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
> social justice logic.
Top lel. Superior Vulcan logic tells me SJWs are simply out to rationalize some particular deviance by denying the general public's right to classify it as deviance.
> social justice logic.
Top lel. Superior Vulcan logic tells me SJWs are simply out to rationalize some particular deviance by denying the general public's right to classify it as deviance.
Anonymous B double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,217
@468,213 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
> Absolutely missing the point.
No you missed the point. I'd rather have sex with a make pretend God than a make pretend woman. Anyone would.
> Absolutely missing the point.
No you missed the point. I'd rather have sex with a make pretend God than a make pretend woman. Anyone would.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,221
@468,215 (B)
> > social justice logic.
>
> Top lel. Superior Vulcan logic tells me SJWs are simply out to rationalize some particular deviance by denying the general public's right to classify it as deviance.
You're right. I was trying to be polite about it.
> > social justice logic.
>
> Top lel. Superior Vulcan logic tells me SJWs are simply out to rationalize some particular deviance by denying the general public's right to classify it as deviance.
You're right. I was trying to be polite about it.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,225
@468,213 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
> YOU DENSE PIECE OF SHIT
>
> MEDICAL KNOWLEDGE OF HOW HORMONES AND PEOPLE'S JUNK WORK CAN EXIST SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH A NON-EXCLUSIVE VIEWPOINT ON GENDER
> WOW
> Lived experience isn't incompatible with science in this place. (There's no way that hard science can be totally applied to gender, either, given its nature.)
Just because you write it in all caps doesn't make it true. Lived experience doesn't mean anything. What about stigmata? That's lived experience, so is Jesus the son of God? The holy trinity is real and all other religions are fake? When does it end?
> YOU DENSE PIECE OF SHIT
>
> MEDICAL KNOWLEDGE OF HOW HORMONES AND PEOPLE'S JUNK WORK CAN EXIST SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH A NON-EXCLUSIVE VIEWPOINT ON GENDER
> WOW
> Lived experience isn't incompatible with science in this place. (There's no way that hard science can be totally applied to gender, either, given its nature.)
Just because you write it in all caps doesn't make it true. Lived experience doesn't mean anything. What about stigmata? That's lived experience, so is Jesus the son of God? The holy trinity is real and all other religions are fake? When does it end?
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,227
@468,215 (B)
Actually, literally yes, and we're right in doing so. (PS: the whole concept of "deviance" — arbitrarily designating all modes of existence expect for one as invalid — is immensely fucking creepy.)
@468,217 (B)
They're just as real of a woman as a FAAB woman with a vagina and XX karyotype.
Actually, literally yes, and we're right in doing so. (PS: the whole concept of "deviance" — arbitrarily designating all modes of existence expect for one as invalid — is immensely fucking creepy.)
@468,217 (B)
They're just as real of a woman as a FAAB woman with a vagina and XX karyotype.
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,229
@468,225 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
Irrelevant example. They don't know where the stigmata come from — there's no "from" needed to verify the truth of one's gender. Gender identification is inherently valid, because all there is to it is what's in your head. That's all. Gender is totally in your mind. No one can know your gender better than you can.
Irrelevant example. They don't know where the stigmata come from — there's no "from" needed to verify the truth of one's gender. Gender identification is inherently valid, because all there is to it is what's in your head. That's all. Gender is totally in your mind. No one can know your gender better than you can.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 16 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,232
@468,195 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
> If you had a mental disability in the form of anxiety where you can't be around other people while you pee the disabled toilets would be perfect.
Wouldn't that be something that a person would work to overcome, though? And if their problem is that severe then wouldn't they avoid having to go out in public in the first place?
> A 5 year old is not able to decide on the future of his/her gender. A mentally ill woman is able to brainwash her "son" That's proof!
Again, you're ignoring my points about there being an established biological cause, and that it can indeed present in early childhood. You are just claiming that the woman actively tried to brainwash her son without any evidence to indicate such. Additionally, you have no proof that the woman is mentally ill.
> If you had a mental disability in the form of anxiety where you can't be around other people while you pee the disabled toilets would be perfect.
Wouldn't that be something that a person would work to overcome, though? And if their problem is that severe then wouldn't they avoid having to go out in public in the first place?
> A 5 year old is not able to decide on the future of his/her gender. A mentally ill woman is able to brainwash her "son" That's proof!
Again, you're ignoring my points about there being an established biological cause, and that it can indeed present in early childhood. You are just claiming that the woman actively tried to brainwash her son without any evidence to indicate such. Additionally, you have no proof that the woman is mentally ill.
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 8 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,234
@468,227 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
But see that's where the problem lies. There can be no justice in denying my right to non-participation and non-cooperation with your personal reality. It's entirely possible for you to be a woman in your mind while simultaneously being a man in the mind of myself and many others.
Insisting I change my perspective to accommodate you is no different from asking Rosa Parks to move to the back of the bus.
But see that's where the problem lies. There can be no justice in denying my right to non-participation and non-cooperation with your personal reality. It's entirely possible for you to be a woman in your mind while simultaneously being a man in the mind of myself and many others.
Insisting I change my perspective to accommodate you is no different from asking Rosa Parks to move to the back of the bus.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,236
@468,229 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
> Irrelevant example. They don't know where the stigmata come from — there's no "from" needed to verify the truth of one's gender. Gender identification is inherently valid, because all there is to it is what's in your head. That's all. Gender is totally in your mind. No one can know your gender better than you can.
I'm sorry but that's just retarded. If we take that logic then people can be the embodiment of Christ, they can be a dog in another life. You can be another age if you feel you grow faster than normal... No one knows your age better than you and we could go on and on.
> Irrelevant example. They don't know where the stigmata come from — there's no "from" needed to verify the truth of one's gender. Gender identification is inherently valid, because all there is to it is what's in your head. That's all. Gender is totally in your mind. No one can know your gender better than you can.
I'm sorry but that's just retarded. If we take that logic then people can be the embodiment of Christ, they can be a dog in another life. You can be another age if you feel you grow faster than normal... No one knows your age better than you and we could go on and on.
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,238
@468,234 (B)
Your refusal to accept the genders of others leads to mass invalidation of basic aspects of their identities and actually literally gets people murdered. Just. As much as you have the right to perpetuate horrifying essentialist narratives on racism, I also have the right to point out that your point of view is entirely oppressive and much too harmful to be tolerated inside anyone's community.
Your refusal to accept the genders of others leads to mass invalidation of basic aspects of their identities and actually literally gets people murdered. Just. As much as you have the right to perpetuate horrifying essentialist narratives on racism, I also have the right to point out that your point of view is entirely oppressive and much too harmful to be tolerated inside anyone's community.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 0 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,239
@468,232 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)> > If you had a mental disability in the form of anxiety where you can't be around other people while you pee the disabled toilets would be perfect.
> Wouldn't that be something that a person would work to overcome, though? And if their problem is that severe then wouldn't they avoid having to go out in public in the first place?
What the fuck is wrong with you. Some dude can't pee in public and you want to shut them off or make them piss their pants. You make me sick.
> > A 5 year old is not able to decide on the future of his/her gender. A mentally ill woman is able to brainwash her "son" That's proof!
> Again, you're ignoring my points about there being an established biological cause, and that it can indeed present in early childhood. You are just claiming that the woman actively tried to brainwash her son without any evidence to indicate such. Additionally, you have no proof that the woman is mentally ill.
She said herself she was ill (see pic)
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decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,242
@468,234 (B)
Also, that analogy is the most racist trash I've ever fucking seen. Don't appropriate the Civil Rights movement to defend your transphobia, jackass.
Also, that analogy is the most racist trash I've ever fucking seen. Don't appropriate the Civil Rights movement to defend your transphobia, jackass.
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,243
@468,236 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
It's.
Literally.
Not.
The.
Same.
Thing.
Wow.
Gender's nature isn't the same as that of species or godliness.
It's.
Literally.
Not.
The.
Same.
Thing.
Wow.
Gender's nature isn't the same as that of species or godliness.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 13 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,244
@468,238 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
> Your refusal to accept the genders of others leads to mass invalidation of basic aspects of their identities and actually literally gets people murdered. Just. As much as you have the right to perpetuate horrifying essentialist narratives on racism, I also have the right to point out that your point of view is entirely oppressive and much too harmful to be tolerated inside anyone's community.
People having different political opinion or religions or nationalities gets them murdered. People get murdered period.
> Your refusal to accept the genders of others leads to mass invalidation of basic aspects of their identities and actually literally gets people murdered. Just. As much as you have the right to perpetuate horrifying essentialist narratives on racism, I also have the right to point out that your point of view is entirely oppressive and much too harmful to be tolerated inside anyone's community.
People having different political opinion or religions or nationalities gets them murdered. People get murdered period.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 16 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,245
@468,239 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
> Some dude can pee in public and you want to shut them off or make them piss their pants. You make me sick.
What? I don't understand what you're saying.
> She said herself she was ill (see pic)
Okay, and to you that's proof that she brainwashed her child into swapping genders? Are you saying that mentally ill people are all derranged, and we must assume the worst about them?
> Some dude can pee in public and you want to shut them off or make them piss their pants. You make me sick.
What? I don't understand what you're saying.
> She said herself she was ill (see pic)
Okay, and to you that's proof that she brainwashed her child into swapping genders? Are you saying that mentally ill people are all derranged, and we must assume the worst about them?
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,249
@468,244 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
So you literally have zero understanding of systematic oppression, wow.
So you literally have zero understanding of systematic oppression, wow.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,251
@468,243 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
> It's.
> Literally.
> Not.
> The.
> Same.
> Thing.
> Wow.
> Gender's nature isn't the same as that of species or godliness.
Why not? Because you and SJWs say so? It's a mental illness and it's being treated wrong... I have the greatest sympathy for people who are sick but chopping your penis off isn't the answer to getting better nor is society playing along. Anyway... We're all getting side tracked. The point to this thread was young children getting caught up in this fad of "lets change gender" then facing the sad consequences of their actions in the future.
> It's.
> Literally.
> Not.
> The.
> Same.
> Thing.
> Wow.
> Gender's nature isn't the same as that of species or godliness.
Why not? Because you and SJWs say so? It's a mental illness and it's being treated wrong... I have the greatest sympathy for people who are sick but chopping your penis off isn't the answer to getting better nor is society playing along. Anyway... We're all getting side tracked. The point to this thread was young children getting caught up in this fad of "lets change gender" then facing the sad consequences of their actions in the future.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,254
@468,245 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> > Some dude can pee in public and you want to shut them off or make them piss their pants. You make me sick.
> What? I don't understand what you're saying.
Low IQ
> > She said herself she was ill (see pic)
> Okay, and to you that's proof that she brainwashed her child into swapping genders? Are you saying that mentally ill people are all derranged, and we must assume the worst about them?
Yes or at least be wary of them if they are untreated.
> > Some dude can pee in public and you want to shut them off or make them piss their pants. You make me sick.
> What? I don't understand what you're saying.
Low IQ
> > She said herself she was ill (see pic)
> Okay, and to you that's proof that she brainwashed her child into swapping genders? Are you saying that mentally ill people are all derranged, and we must assume the worst about them?
Yes or at least be wary of them if they are untreated.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) triple-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,255
@468,249 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
> So you literally have zero understanding of systematic oppression, wow.
I think I do. More people are killed for their political belief or religion then what gender they feel like being on what day and what is trendy.
> So you literally have zero understanding of systematic oppression, wow.
I think I do. More people are killed for their political belief or religion then what gender they feel like being on what day and what is trendy.
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB replied with this 12 years ago, 53 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,257
@468,251 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
Its not the same because... dude, just go and read the past fifty years worth of thought on this by all sorts of sociologists and so on so forth wow please, do some more research; I'm on my phone, so searching up good resources is difficult right now .
Its not the same because... dude, just go and read the past fifty years worth of thought on this by all sorts of sociologists and so on so forth wow please, do some more research; I'm on my phone, so searching up good resources is difficult right now .
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,259
@468,254 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
> Low IQ
So your response to somebody asking you to clarify your point is to insult them? Are you not interested in a constructive dialogue?
> Yes or at least be wary of them if they are untreated.
But her having a mental illness doesn't mean that she brainwashed her son, or that the son doesn't actually have gender dysphoria.
> Low IQ
So your response to somebody asking you to clarify your point is to insult them? Are you not interested in a constructive dialogue?
> Yes or at least be wary of them if they are untreated.
But her having a mental illness doesn't mean that she brainwashed her son, or that the son doesn't actually have gender dysphoria.
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,268
@468,238 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
> Your refusal to accept the genders of others leads to mass invalidation of basic aspects of their identities and actually literally gets people murdered.
WTF? Your purchase of Chinese manufactured goods literally gets people murdered. Find another high horse. That one's just not tall enough.
> too harmful to be tolerated inside anyone's community.
But that's exactly what I think about trannies! What makes you right and me wrong exactly?
> Your refusal to accept the genders of others leads to mass invalidation of basic aspects of their identities and actually literally gets people murdered.
WTF? Your purchase of Chinese manufactured goods literally gets people murdered. Find another high horse. That one's just not tall enough.
> too harmful to be tolerated inside anyone's community.
But that's exactly what I think about trannies! What makes you right and me wrong exactly?
Anonymous B double-posted this 12 years ago, 49 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,269
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,273
@468,268 (B)
Please, do explain how being transgender is harmful. At worst, you can just say that you don't want to have sex if you find out that a woman happens to have a dick. :v
@previous (B)
There's no way of making any useful insights about society that completely falls within the realm of hard science - besides, everyone doing observation is simultaneously part of what's being observed~
Please, do explain how being transgender is harmful. At worst, you can just say that you don't want to have sex if you find out that a woman happens to have a dick. :v
@previous (B)
There's no way of making any useful insights about society that completely falls within the realm of hard science - besides, everyone doing observation is simultaneously part of what's being observed~
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Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 32 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,290
@previous (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
> Please, do explain how being transgender is harmful. At worst, you can just say that you don't want to have sex if you find out that a woman happens to have a dick. :v
It's harmful because it challenges my essential right to perceive REALITY. My thinking a man in a dress is actually a man in a dress as opposed to a 'woman' with some birth defect harms no one, as I'm not going to treat one differently from the other.
I don't even care if you want to chop that shit off. But the reality is you will still be a man who had as sex change to me. Not a woman. Sure you did it to get kinky. I get that. But you'll get the same praise from me as a woman who voluntarily had all her teeth removed just to give great head.
However, your offense at use of the wrong pronouns and butthurt over my not being attracted to what is essentially false advertising is attempting to harm me by painting me as part of a hate crime conspiracy. And your unwillingness to accept there are viewpoints which are correct for others and the way they want to live out their lives which may not be compatible with your viewpoints and the way you want to live out your life is just plain totalitarian and wrong.
> everyone doing observation is simultaneously part of what's being observed~
Nice sound bite, but it doesn't stop quantum mechanics from making computers, now does it?
> Please, do explain how being transgender is harmful. At worst, you can just say that you don't want to have sex if you find out that a woman happens to have a dick. :v
It's harmful because it challenges my essential right to perceive REALITY. My thinking a man in a dress is actually a man in a dress as opposed to a 'woman' with some birth defect harms no one, as I'm not going to treat one differently from the other.
I don't even care if you want to chop that shit off. But the reality is you will still be a man who had as sex change to me. Not a woman. Sure you did it to get kinky. I get that. But you'll get the same praise from me as a woman who voluntarily had all her teeth removed just to give great head.
However, your offense at use of the wrong pronouns and butthurt over my not being attracted to what is essentially false advertising is attempting to harm me by painting me as part of a hate crime conspiracy. And your unwillingness to accept there are viewpoints which are correct for others and the way they want to live out their lives which may not be compatible with your viewpoints and the way you want to live out your life is just plain totalitarian and wrong.
> everyone doing observation is simultaneously part of what's being observed~
Nice sound bite, but it doesn't stop quantum mechanics from making computers, now does it?
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kook !!32zdfdzi+ joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,292
kook !!32zdfdzi+ double-posted this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,294
Op, I dont feel as though I have a gender, though I realize that other people see me as a woman. I know myself as a female and nothing more.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ triple-posted this 12 years ago, 45 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,295
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,298
@468,292 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
The fuck is "sex"? Genital configuration? Genital configuration after involuntary mutilation to make it match the closest binary genitalia? Karyotype? Hormone concentrations? Bone structure? Presence or lack of the SRY gene? Apparent phenotype excluding genitalia? Gonads? "Sex" is a useless term.
@468,290 (B)
I'm sorry, but your essentialist construction of the reality of gender as being a matter of someone's genital morphology is intrinsically harmful. It runs roughshod over the identities of many people (for fuck's sake, it literally wasn't a thing in many American indigenous societies until white European colonists showed up), and it's used as an excuse to outright nullify someone's whole self-perception.
Sorry, but if your definition of gender involves some kind of delusion of being able to know one's gender based on the meaningless term "sex", it's inherently transphobic, misogynistic, racist, colonialist, imperialist, and eugenicist.
The fuck is "sex"? Genital configuration? Genital configuration after involuntary mutilation to make it match the closest binary genitalia? Karyotype? Hormone concentrations? Bone structure? Presence or lack of the SRY gene? Apparent phenotype excluding genitalia? Gonads? "Sex" is a useless term.
@468,290 (B)
I'm sorry, but your essentialist construction of the reality of gender as being a matter of someone's genital morphology is intrinsically harmful. It runs roughshod over the identities of many people (for fuck's sake, it literally wasn't a thing in many American indigenous societies until white European colonists showed up), and it's used as an excuse to outright nullify someone's whole self-perception.
Sorry, but if your definition of gender involves some kind of delusion of being able to know one's gender based on the meaningless term "sex", it's inherently transphobic, misogynistic, racist, colonialist, imperialist, and eugenicist.
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,303
@previous (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
> and it's used as an excuse to outright nullify someone's whole self-perception.
That's the point. It's MY brain, a part of MY body, and I have the right to nullify YOUR perceptions of reality and yourself within my mind any fucking time I want just as surely as some slut can have a fetus vacuumed from her uterus.
So if you want to go through life thinking I'm delusional, so be it. We'll just have to settle for seeing one another as crazy and get on with life.
> and it's used as an excuse to outright nullify someone's whole self-perception.
That's the point. It's MY brain, a part of MY body, and I have the right to nullify YOUR perceptions of reality and yourself within my mind any fucking time I want just as surely as some slut can have a fetus vacuumed from her uterus.
So if you want to go through life thinking I'm delusional, so be it. We'll just have to settle for seeing one another as crazy and get on with life.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,304
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,308
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Misinterpreting. The issue is where you fetishise them down to just being their transness — like, when one trans person is interchangeable with another for the purposes of sexual or romantic relationships. There's no issue with liking people whose gender isn't the same as their assignment; just treat them like whole human beings!
@468,303 (B)
> just as surely as some slut can have a fetus vacuumed from her uterus.
You're trash. Wow. Jesus Bible-sodomising Christ.
Misinterpreting. The issue is where you fetishise them down to just being their transness — like, when one trans person is interchangeable with another for the purposes of sexual or romantic relationships. There's no issue with liking people whose gender isn't the same as their assignment; just treat them like whole human beings!
@468,303 (B)
> just as surely as some slut can have a fetus vacuumed from her uterus.
You're trash. Wow. Jesus Bible-sodomising Christ.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 32 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,309
@468,298 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
Sex is more useful than gender. Sex is genitalia, and the presence of certain genitalia is important.
Sex is more useful than gender. Sex is genitalia, and the presence of certain genitalia is important.
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,312
@468,308 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
Is this not a 'right' supported by social justice types? Are not slut walks and slut pride part of the social justice movement, or is that another thing?
Is this not a 'right' supported by social justice types? Are not slut walks and slut pride part of the social justice movement, or is that another thing?
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,314
@468,308 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
And I would treat them like humans. On the internet though, it is easy to be a sociopath, but I cannot be so cruel like that outside the internet. Rather, IRL, I seek to charm and please people.
And I would treat them like humans. On the internet though, it is easy to be a sociopath, but I cannot be so cruel like that outside the internet. Rather, IRL, I seek to charm and please people.
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,315
@468,309 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
But is it really? Mere presence of genitalia guarantees nothing except for its own presence. It merely heavily correlates with other factors necessary to make those bits useful.
Besides, my unambiguously male presentation seems a lot more relevant than my dick in daily life. :v
@468,312 (B)
The fact that you're getting mad about abortion and throwing "slut" around as an insult speaks volumes about what kind of person you are.
But is it really? Mere presence of genitalia guarantees nothing except for its own presence. It merely heavily correlates with other factors necessary to make those bits useful.
Besides, my unambiguously male presentation seems a lot more relevant than my dick in daily life. :v
@468,312 (B)
The fact that you're getting mad about abortion and throwing "slut" around as an insult speaks volumes about what kind of person you are.
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,318
@previous (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
You assumed I was mad. I actually find abortion funny.
And come on now, theres no shame in having sex with lots of people, so there can be no shame in the word 'slut'.
Grow up and stop assuming the worst about everyone who doesn't submit to your way of thinking.
You assumed I was mad. I actually find abortion funny.
And come on now, theres no shame in having sex with lots of people, so there can be no shame in the word 'slut'.
Grow up and stop assuming the worst about everyone who doesn't submit to your way of thinking.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,319
@468,315 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
Look at it this way. Which would be more dangerous to inmate A? Inmate A has a vagina, regardless of gender presentation and is placed in the male population in prison. Or, inmate A has a penis, regardless of gender presentation and is placed in the female population in prison.
You say that your presentation is more important because you're a male. Would a female say the same thing?
Look at it this way. Which would be more dangerous to inmate A? Inmate A has a vagina, regardless of gender presentation and is placed in the male population in prison. Or, inmate A has a penis, regardless of gender presentation and is placed in the female population in prison.
You say that your presentation is more important because you're a male. Would a female say the same thing?
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decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,321
@468,318 (B)
I'm just saying that your tone was making extremely suspicious of your underlying ideology.
I'm just saying that your tone was making extremely suspicious of your underlying ideology.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,324
@468,314 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
I'm nice to everyone irl, but if someone were to pull a terrier out of their pants right before we fucked, I would be shocked and delighted. That's just how I roll.
I'm nice to everyone irl, but if someone were to pull a terrier out of their pants right before we fucked, I would be shocked and delighted. That's just how I roll.
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kook !!32zdfdzi+ double-posted this 12 years ago, 44 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,325
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,329
@468,319 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
From what I've seen, men are more of an issue, regardless of their bits — especially if their presentation is highly masculine, and even more so if they're also white.
Interesting thing to do: take a look at the statistics relating to how often trans women are sexually victimised. (It's more often, per capita, even than the already sordid statistics for cis women.)
From what I've seen, men are more of an issue, regardless of their bits — especially if their presentation is highly masculine, and even more so if they're also white.
Interesting thing to do: take a look at the statistics relating to how often trans women are sexually victimised. (It's more often, per capita, even than the already sordid statistics for cis women.)
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,331
@468,308 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
Kind of off topic. Regardless of "gender" or sex, when I find out that someone is a furry or otherkin,I'm automatically more sexually interested in them. Would that count as fetishization?
Kind of off topic. Regardless of "gender" or sex, when I find out that someone is a furry or otherkin,I'm automatically more sexually interested in them. Would that count as fetishization?
kook !!32zdfdzi+ double-posted this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,334
@468,329 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
So, you think that a feminine male with a penis would be more likely to be raped by butch females, than a butch female would be raped by feminine males with penises?
Also, I'd love to see that numbers on that statistic that you just gave.
So, you think that a feminine male with a penis would be more likely to be raped by butch females, than a butch female would be raped by feminine males with penises?
Also, I'd love to see that numbers on that statistic that you just gave.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ triple-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,335
@468,329 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
Wait, did you just say that white men with vaginas rape more people than women with penises who are of any other color? Source?
Also you didnt answer the question. In which situation would the inmate would be more likely to be harmed?
Wait, did you just say that white men with vaginas rape more people than women with penises who are of any other color? Source?
Also you didnt answer the question. In which situation would the inmate would be more likely to be harmed?
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decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,340
@468,331 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Depends, I guess! It's a bit of a difficult thing to define — preference and fetish are distinct yet similar.
@468,334 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Uh, no? I'm talking about the power dynamics in general, not specifically rape. (Though it's mostly white cis men who rape, really.)
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
It's white guys with dicks who do most of it. Women are victimised more often than men; trans people are victimised more often than cis people; PoC are victimised more often than white people. Etcetera. (More often being a matter of tens of percent, IIRC.)
Depends, I guess! It's a bit of a difficult thing to define — preference and fetish are distinct yet similar.
@468,334 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Uh, no? I'm talking about the power dynamics in general, not specifically rape. (Though it's mostly white cis men who rape, really.)
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
It's white guys with dicks who do most of it. Women are victimised more often than men; trans people are victimised more often than cis people; PoC are victimised more often than white people. Etcetera. (More often being a matter of tens of percent, IIRC.)
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,341
@468,335 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
As for the inmate question, they're probably both at a roughly equal risk of getting ostracised, beaten, or murdered.
As for the inmate question, they're probably both at a roughly equal risk of getting ostracised, beaten, or murdered.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,345
Metæ joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 4 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,346
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 41 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,347
@468,341 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
lol yeah right. So why is it that why trans women try to get placed in female pop? How often do you see trans men trying to be placed with the males?
lol yeah right. So why is it that why trans women try to get placed in female pop? How often do you see trans men trying to be placed with the males?
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,351
I keep seeing these signs posted, but I do not ever recall anyone ever saying where the signs are located.
Where is this "All Genders" bathroom located and is it a shop like Target?
I've seen a unisex bathroom there before.
Where is this "All Genders" bathroom located and is it a shop like Target?
I've seen a unisex bathroom there before.
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,357
@468,347 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Because they'd like to be treated as the women that they actually are? People aren't gonna risk a massive drop in income and a hugely elevated rate of death from suicide and homicide just to get sex.
@468,346 (Metæ)
Let's not reduce this to Oppression Olympics™.
Because they'd like to be treated as the women that they actually are? People aren't gonna risk a massive drop in income and a hugely elevated rate of death from suicide and homicide just to get sex.
@468,346 (Metæ)
Let's not reduce this to Oppression Olympics™.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,358
@468,321 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
> use the word slut
That croses the line!
> find abortion funny
Oh okay.
> use the word slut
That croses the line!
> find abortion funny
Oh okay.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,359
@468,357 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
But dont the trans men want to feel like the men that they are? Also their are people who will hide in the bowels of a porta potty just to watch women shit, so dont pretend that people (usually males) wont take huge risks for sexual fulfillment.
But dont the trans men want to feel like the men that they are? Also their are people who will hide in the bowels of a porta potty just to watch women shit, so dont pretend that people (usually males) wont take huge risks for sexual fulfillment.
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decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB replied with this 12 years ago, 8 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,362
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
> their are people who will hide in the bowels of a porta potty just to watch women shit, so dont pretend that people (usually males) wont take huge risks
Immersing yourself in shit is, as society currently is, a much smaller risk than the process of coming out as trans and transitioning. Like, legit. That's tiny, comparatively speaking.
On the other hand, yeah, lots of men are misogynistic trash — but essentially none would fake their way through numerous levels of gatekeeping to get put on hormones which permanently alter one's physiology and appearance, put themselves at risk of hate crimes, and subject themselves to constant harassment just to fuck a few lesbians.
> their are people who will hide in the bowels of a porta potty just to watch women shit, so dont pretend that people (usually males) wont take huge risks
Immersing yourself in shit is, as society currently is, a much smaller risk than the process of coming out as trans and transitioning. Like, legit. That's tiny, comparatively speaking.
On the other hand, yeah, lots of men are misogynistic trash — but essentially none would fake their way through numerous levels of gatekeeping to get put on hormones which permanently alter one's physiology and appearance, put themselves at risk of hate crimes, and subject themselves to constant harassment just to fuck a few lesbians.
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,363
Metæ replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,365
@468,359 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
But applying that to all trans people is like saying "well a feminist wrote the SCUM Manifesto so clearly they're all man haters who want to castrate men".
But applying that to all trans people is like saying "well a feminist wrote the SCUM Manifesto so clearly they're all man haters who want to castrate men".
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 3 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,366
@468,362 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
It can bring on disease, imprisonment, and ridicule! Are you fucking serious? Not all transwomen use hormones, and why dont trans men try to get into the mens populations in prisons? Why will some people inflate their genitals with pumps until they're non functional? why did someone die from fucking a horse?
Jesus Christ, you have no clue.
It can bring on disease, imprisonment, and ridicule! Are you fucking serious? Not all transwomen use hormones, and why dont trans men try to get into the mens populations in prisons? Why will some people inflate their genitals with pumps until they're non functional? why did someone die from fucking a horse?
Jesus Christ, you have no clue.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,367
@468,365 (Metæ)
What? Saying that trans men want to feel like men, is just like saying that feminists want to castrate males?
What? Saying that trans men want to feel like men, is just like saying that feminists want to castrate males?
Metæ replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,369
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
No I meant the part where you were talking about people hiding in porta potties to watch women shit (I don't doubt you, but it is a rather unlikely thing).
No I meant the part where you were talking about people hiding in porta potties to watch women shit (I don't doubt you, but it is a rather unlikely thing).
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,372
@previous (Metæ)
I'm saying that it has happened multiple times, and shows that people will go to dangerous and ridiculous lengths to get off. Not that all trans people love shit. He stated that no one would ever do such a risky thing as presenting as a woman in public for a kink, and I disagree because people do and have done more risky things for kinks.
I'm saying that it has happened multiple times, and shows that people will go to dangerous and ridiculous lengths to get off. Not that all trans people love shit. He stated that no one would ever do such a risky thing as presenting as a woman in public for a kink, and I disagree because people do and have done more risky things for kinks.
Metæ replied with this 12 years ago, 58 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,373
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,375
Anonymous L replied with this 12 years ago, 45 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,388
@468,366 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
> Not all transwomen use hormones
Uhh, if someone doesn't go through hormonal treatment or have surgeries to transition, then they're not really transgender. Trans- means across, beyond, or on the other side. They'd have to transition before they are transgender. Use your words.
> Not all transwomen use hormones
Uhh, if someone doesn't go through hormonal treatment or have surgeries to transition, then they're not really transgender. Trans- means across, beyond, or on the other side. They'd have to transition before they are transgender. Use your words.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,391
@previous (L)
I'm going by the current terms. People can and do consider themselves trans with no hormone use.
I'm going by the current terms. People can and do consider themselves trans with no hormone use.
Anonymous L replied with this 12 years ago, 26 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,401
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,402
@previous (L)
Of course they're right. It's an entirely made up phenomenon. I say I'm a woman and you're expected to accept and embrace me as a woman. "What I say goes" is literally the level of privilege these trannies are going for.
Of course they're right. It's an entirely made up phenomenon. I say I'm a woman and you're expected to accept and embrace me as a woman. "What I say goes" is literally the level of privilege these trannies are going for.
Anonymous L replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,404
@previous (O)
> It's an entirely made up phenomenon.
Citation needed, it's a recognized psychological condition.
Despite what you may think, they do study and research before they consider something legit.
Regardless of rather or not someone thinks it's a soft science or not even a science. The truth of the matter is that it's still a science and in science something becomes considered legit through study and research.
> It's an entirely made up phenomenon.
Citation needed, it's a recognized psychological condition.
Despite what you may think, they do study and research before they consider something legit.
Regardless of rather or not someone thinks it's a soft science or not even a science. The truth of the matter is that it's still a science and in science something becomes considered legit through study and research.
Anonymous O replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,406
@previous (L)
No science is what they use to slice a cock up and turn it inside out to make a vagina.
Psychology is a politically motivated conspiracy.
No science is what they use to slice a cock up and turn it inside out to make a vagina.
Psychology is a politically motivated conspiracy.
Anonymous L replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,408
@previous (O)
Says someone who should probably see a psychologist for schizophrenia.
> No science is what
And maybe an English teacher so you know about comma use and grammar.
Says someone who should probably see a psychologist for schizophrenia.
> No science is what
And maybe an English teacher so you know about comma use and grammar.
Anonymous O replied with this 12 years ago, 14 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,410
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,415
Anonymous L replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,417
@468,410 (O)I do not give two rats asses about this issue. I'm concerned about your mental well being. I'm detecting you either have a superiority complex to where you think everything you say is right mixed in with a god complex and/or you're schizophrenic, thinking the world is out to get you when in reality we all are insignificant.
The only meaning of life is the meaning that we choose for it. Society doesn't exist, it's not physically present. It's an invention of humankind as a means of establishing laws so we do not rape and murder each other and even then it's a pretty poor invention as we still do that anyway. Even by societal standards nobody, I repeat nobody, wants to get you. This includes but not limited to the Transgender community, the African-American community, the Jewish community, the Atheist community, or even the Homosexual/Bisexual community.
Just because science and psychology did research and study into something you disagree with, only to come to a conclusion that there maybe something legitimate about it, doesn't make it wrong either. Seek help.
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kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 12 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,419
@468,401 (L)
Oh okay. Tell them that. We have like four people here who are considered trans, but arent on any hormone therapies.
Oh okay. Tell them that. We have like four people here who are considered trans, but arent on any hormone therapies.
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kook !!32zdfdzi+ double-posted this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,420
dw !jdTkvovFCQ joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 10 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,421
@OP is a fag
Anonymous O replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,422
@468,417 (L)
LOL. Wow, are you full of shit.
> Society doesn't exist
Great! So I have no social obligation to see a man as a women simply because he would like me to. Glad we cleared that up.
LOL. Wow, are you full of shit.
> Society doesn't exist
Great! So I have no social obligation to see a man as a women simply because he would like me to. Glad we cleared that up.
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squeegee !first/o5zA joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 8 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,424
@previous (O)1. can't argue thoughtfully
2. hurl insult, quickly.
3. claim to have won, loudly.
Anonymous L is right about one thing, you've got something wrong with you.
He's wrong in assuming you'd ever seek help, you're too far gone.
Bringing it up actually bordered on just being a personal attack rather then a plea to get help,
knowing you won't like he does. but i'll let it slide
because i think he genuinely wants you to get some professional help.
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Anonymous O replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,425
dw ltd joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 55 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,426
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,427
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,428
@468,424 (squeegee !first/o5zA)
Do you believe that someone can be trans if they are not on hormone therapy?
Do you believe that someone can be trans if they are not on hormone therapy?
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,430
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,435
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #468,489
@468,428 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
what do i look like, someone who has an opinion?
opinions are for suckers,
everyone's got one and they're all full of shit.
like assholes! get it?
what do i look like, someone who has an opinion?
opinions are for suckers,
everyone's got one and they're all full of shit.
like assholes! get it?