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Topic: CBS says 2C-E needs to be banned because: "one death is too many".

Anonymous A started this discussion 15 years ago #3,388

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/18/earlyshow/living/parenting/main20044667.shtml
> "Ten years ago we saw these drugs used in raves," Ashton points out. "The fact of the matter is, in medicine we say -- this only has to happen once. One death because of this drug is one too many."
Huh. You won't see them saying this about alcohol. Credit: link

Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later[^] [v] #61,277

It was 1 dead and 10 hospitalized, which is a lot when you consider how many people have used this particular drug. Look at the death-to-use ratio, if you will. Not including the people killed from drinking and driving, how many people die from alcohol consumption each year? And how many alcoholic beverages are consumed each year? The numbers don't even compare. The only people who die of alcohol poisoning are high school and college binge drinkers.

jump !VIfloDyEYo joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #61,282

I can't read the article -- mobile site redirects to the home page. What caused the deaths?

Was it a bad batch? Thats a result of the war on drugs and people having to go through unreliable sources.

How much did they take? I'm very curious. I still have a ton of 2CE left, but unlikely to use it. I was gonna sell it but maybe not now until I get more info.

Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 15 years ago, 41 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #61,283

@previous (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
They all overdosed.

ninjj !Cat420tfMU joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #61,285

@61,282 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
What's it like?

Nyarth joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #61,291

> lrn2moderate
> prblmsolve

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #61,301

@61,277 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
CNN said one death is too many, implying alcohol should be banned, which they have never written an article about. Point here is they are a bunch of hypocrites.

Maybe you are right, and it's more dangerous than alcohol, but CNN said "1 death is to many", not just "it's dangerous".

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #61,317

Ban blimps. They kill over one Americans every year.

jump !VIfloDyEYo replied with this 15 years ago, 44 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #61,330

@61,283 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
Huh? How? On 2C-E? How much did they take?

It had to be extremely excessive.

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #61,358

more people should take 2c-e instead of alcohol

The Owl !yshAAUvyds joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #61,423

@61,277 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)

"In 2006, a total of 22,073 persons died of alcohol-induced causes in the United States. This category includes not only deaths from dependent and nondependent use of alcohol, but also accidental poisoning by alcohol. It excludes unintentional injuries, homicides, and other causes indirectly related to alcohol use as well as deaths due to fetal alcohol syndrome."
Source:
Heron MP, Hoyert DL, Murphy SL, Xu JQ, Kochanek KD, Tejada-Vera B. Deaths: Final data for 2006. National vital statistics reports; vol 57 no 14. Hyattsville, MD: National Center for Health Statistics. 2009, p, 11.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr57/nvsr57_14.pdf

jump !VIfloDyEYo replied with this 15 years ago, 22 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #61,432

@61,285 (ninjj !Cat420tfMU)
its kind of different for everyone, and even different each time, but basically its like acid but you are more coherent. Unless you take a lot. I lost my self on it for a short time. It was so intense and awesome. You slow down a lot on it. You get weird visuals. If I look into the trees its all eyes and moving. You feel very good too, but it contracts muscles and you can be a little uncomfortable.

I threw up the last couple times I took more than 20mg. Effective dose is about 10.

Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #61,434

@previous (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
Are you fond of the Ketamine?

psychopath !PAHVpsycho joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #61,766

i guess this is why they call this the land of the free xD

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 26 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #61,788

> The fact of the matter is, in medicine we say -- this only has to happen once. One death because of this drug is one too many
So... Do we start up a campaign to ban pain-killers or sleeping pills for every stupid teen that tries to off themselves that way? Have we stopped over-prescribing SSRIs because some people become suicidal and kill themselves? I don't see this philosophy in "medicine" at all.
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