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Topic: Are there really such things as transracial people?

Anonymous A started this discussion 12 years ago #33,829

Or is this just a term used to combat transsexualism and has no basis in psychiatry or science?

dw ltd joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later[^] [v] #467,476

i've heard of that concept applied to people to describe the fluidity of ethnic identities

nobody is combatting transsexualism with this, or at least they shouldn't be
it has a basis in psychiatry, being that racial identities are constructed so why can't people jump from one to another in theory


have you seen the movie the Jerk steve martin is adopted by a black family, and identifies pretty much as a black person. he has a thermos too

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 6 months later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,683

@previous (dw ltd)

> he has a thermos too

are themoses a black thing

kook !!32zdfdzi+ joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 16 minutes later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,689

Many people consider it to be a real thing.

Meta joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 46 minutes later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,694

I don't see why someone couldn't be transracial, and identify with the culture and history, and desire to have the physical characteristics of another race. Nowadays, with plastic surgery a decent race change operation could be pulled off.

I don't see why the concept is mocked: it seems entirely plausible. The idea that you can change sex but not race is just ridiculous. Anyone who believes sex is an arbitrary social construct, but race is sacred is, in fact, a racist.

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kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,700

@previous (Meta)
Can you be a trans racist if you were raised as your race, by your race, and have made no plans to alter your appearance?

kook !!32zdfdzi+ double-posted this 12 years ago, 49 seconds later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,701

How does everyone feel about transabled people, and otherkin?

kook !!32zdfdzi+ triple-posted this 12 years ago, 44 seconds later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,702

@495,694 (Meta)
Well you arent really changing your sex, but your gender.

Meta replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,711

@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
You're right of course but in many jurisdictions you can get your "legal" sex changed. I imagine race could be the same way (i.e. you'll never change the underlying biology, whatever that may or may not be in the case of race) but you could, for all meaningful purposes, change your race through cosmetic surgery, pigmentation alteration, hair treatment, etc.

kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,713

@previous (Meta)
Then you could claim that you never had experienced white privilege, and could tell BAAB (blacks assigned at birth) that they have it easy, because transracial people actually have to work at their status?

Meta replied with this 12 years ago, 21 minutes later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,715

@495,700 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Only if you made an effort to oppress people of other racial identities. Your body is your own: what you make of it is up to you.
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
The privilege part is debateable, I think but definitely yes to the latter half. And it would be true, too. Whatever the pros and cons of being black are, a cisblack person will never have to work at it and will be universally accepted as black whereas a transblack person will have to make a tremendous effort to pass, and face all kinds of ridicule and possibly even physical violence if they're found out.

I think, though, a transblack person would have negative privilege after the operation, because they'll no longer be accepted as white by most, but nor will they really be accepted as black. So I think it's a good option for any pampered trust fund college kids agonizing over their privilege.

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kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,716

@previous (Meta)
lol I love you so much, sometimes. Now do otherkin, please!

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,717

i snorted a line of 3meopcppcpcpcpcpcpcpcpcppcccppcppp

kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 18 minutes later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,718

Also, sup Catherine?

Meta replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,719

@495,716 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
> sometimes
As a Clockkin, I find your nonchalant appropriation of time culture extremely triggering. Thanks.

Seriously, though, I couldn't even imagine the difficulty a Koalakin would face being accepted as a true Koala. First off, eucalyptus is not only toxic in small quantities to humans, but the leaves are completely indigestible as well. Not to mention the human circadian rhythm is wholly unsuited for sleeping 18 hours a day and trying to spend all day climbing eucalyptus trees with soft, easily torn human hands and a skeleton with geometry designed more for walking upright and less for tree climbing. And the fur! Even in a warm climate a naked human would be uncomfortable and vulnerable on top of a tree.

It's a big deal when a human can run a four minute mile, but thats only 15 mph! Imagine a Cheetahkin trying to keep up in the Serengeti! Slothkin enjoy slow privilege but you try hanging from a tree branch all day, growing algae in your fur, and defecating once a week on the forest floor. It's no bed of roses, to be sure.

Needless to say, otherkin face challenges unimaginable to trans* people. Some transracial and transsexual people can pass, something all otherkin can only dream of. I really do feel sad for them*. Until fur transplant, digestive system transplants, and total skeletal reshaping come to pass, they are stuck in an awful limbo: not human, but not able to transition, either.


*assuming they're actually true and honest, not just doing it as some special snowflake tumblr bullshit.

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 11 minutes later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,720

Wigger syndrome.

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kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,721

@495,719 (Meta)
ahhhh! Why cant you live near me?

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 11 hours later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,761

You can be trans race but not trans ethnic!

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,787

No1cars

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 34 minutes later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,797

Cis/trans isomery describes the relative position of functional groups in a molecule.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 51 minutes later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,805

It has more credibility than transspecies.

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,822

@previous (A)
Why?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,836

@previous (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
Because in the end it involves human neurology and social status.
Transspecies involves something humans will never know since it'll be a different species they identify with.

kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 months after the original post[^] [v] #495,837

@previous (A)
But wait, how can a male ever know what its like to be a female, or a white to be black? Truly know?
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