Topic: Is this a proper response to "they need treatment, not surgery and hormones"?
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY started this discussion 12 years ago #33,743
"fuck you walter
How would you like to be 'treated' for wanting to fuck trans women?
shut the fuck up you piece of shit
I hate you i really do you are scum"
How would you like to be 'treated' for wanting to fuck trans women?
shut the fuck up you piece of shit
I hate you i really do you are scum"
| Poll option | Votes | Percentage | Graph |
|---|---|---|---|
| Yes, completely rational. | 9 | 82% | |
| No. What a Dutch fag. | 2 | 18% |
dw ltd joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #466,463
you're asking for it Walter
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,465
*fat
Green joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 9 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,469
dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 17 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,489
itt Walter votes no
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 40 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,523
All humanity 'needs to be treated'. Such is our Orwellian destiny.
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 31 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,562
A better response is simply pointing out that transition is infinitely more effective at resolving dysphoria and depression than attempts at psychological modification. It's much easier to provide appropriate hormones and, when desired, reconfigure the bits, than to try to fool around with the confusing tangle that is the human mind in such a way as to convince someone that a state which is utterly unworkable for them on so many levels is actually the thing that they should be happy with.
dw ltd !UdPIZzADAY joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,567
@previous (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
no, the better response leaves no room for the absurdity of a treating a person who is not ill and also gets walter pissed enough to make a thread about it
no, the better response leaves no room for the absurdity of a treating a person who is not ill and also gets walter pissed enough to make a thread about it
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,580
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,583
Triptych !IupsXZPnnU joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 32 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,604
@466,580 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
So hormones and top surgery are all good, as long as you get your precious dick?
So hormones and top surgery are all good, as long as you get your precious dick?
squeegee !first/o5zA joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,606
@previous (Triptych !IupsXZPnnU)
uncircumcised at that. Pristine, uncut dick. the stuff his dreams are made of
uncircumcised at that. Pristine, uncut dick. the stuff his dreams are made of
Triptych !IupsXZPnnU replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,607
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,610
Triptych !IupsXZPnnU replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,611
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
I am not sexualised and avoid sexualising other people.
You're reducing transwomen to how they must be in order for you to cum. Dude, that's gross.
I am not sexualised and avoid sexualising other people.
You're reducing transwomen to how they must be in order for you to cum. Dude, that's gross.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,612
Triptych !IupsXZPnnU replied with this 12 years ago, 46 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,613
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 55 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,614
Triptych !IupsXZPnnU replied with this 12 years ago, 16 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,615
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,616
Triptych !IupsXZPnnU replied with this 12 years ago, 36 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,617
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,618
@previous (Triptych !IupsXZPnnU)
You should. It would be less weird. You'd be the cute little tomboy for all the girls.
You should. It would be less weird. You'd be the cute little tomboy for all the girls.
dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,623
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
are you trying to be extra evil tonight? having fun being evil walter?
are you trying to be extra evil tonight? having fun being evil walter?
McStinkyNigger !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,624
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,626
The trouble with current medical practice is the translation between mental and physical. We see a missing leg but we don't see depression, both can be equally disabling. We should be treating gender dysphoria as a mental illness but the medical result would be less than satisfactory so we treat it more radically with hormones and surgary. Extra fact: The first transgender porn video was created by a Jew who took the opportunity to fetishize the condition for profit.
(Edited 45 seconds later.)
McStinkyNigger !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,628
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
> The trouble with current medical practice is the translation between mental and physical. We see a missing leg but we don't see depression, both can be equally disabling. We should be treating gender dysphoria as a mental illness but the medical result would be less than satisfactory so we treat it more radically with hormones and surgary.
Exactly.
Extra fact: The first transgender porn video was created by a Jew who took the opportunity to fetishize the condition for profit.
Do you have a source to back that up?
> The trouble with current medical practice is the translation between mental and physical. We see a missing leg but we don't see depression, both can be equally disabling. We should be treating gender dysphoria as a mental illness but the medical result would be less than satisfactory so we treat it more radically with hormones and surgary.
Exactly.
Extra fact: The first transgender porn video was created by a Jew who took the opportunity to fetishize the condition for profit.
Do you have a source to back that up?
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,630
@466,626 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)i'm not even going to ask for citations anymore, i'm just going to post this image
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,631
@previous (squeegee !first/o5zA)
Yes, I just made it up as I went along. You're free to assume what you like or you could free yourself and use the fucking internet. There was a time where you needed to enter a libary but we have this "internet" at out finger tips. Use it for education or go back to watching porn.
Yes, I just made it up as I went along. You're free to assume what you like or you could free yourself and use the fucking internet. There was a time where you needed to enter a libary but we have this "internet" at out finger tips. Use it for education or go back to watching porn.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,632
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
https://www.google.com/search?q=first+transexual+porn&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb
https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=fJp&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=sb&q=first+transexual+porn+jew+fetish&oq=first+transexual+porn+jew+fetish&gs_l=serp.12...13162.15162.0.20036.11.11.0.0.0.0.59.466.11.11.0....0...1c.1.35.serp..11.0.0.XzaZTZvIUE8
i tried, but i got nothing. looks like you did just make that up as you went along. Which is why i asked for a citation. I can't find jack about it, chump.
if you're going to make a claim at least have the wherewithal to support it with your source material. like maybe a name that i could google of this supposed jewish tranny fetishist?
anything really. anything but your word.
https://www.google.com/search?q=first+transexual+porn&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb
https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=fJp&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=sb&q=first+transexual+porn+jew+fetish&oq=first+transexual+porn+jew+fetish&gs_l=serp.12...13162.15162.0.20036.11.11.0.0.0.0.59.466.11.11.0....0...1c.1.35.serp..11.0.0.XzaZTZvIUE8
i tried, but i got nothing. looks like you did just make that up as you went along. Which is why i asked for a citation. I can't find jack about it, chump.
if you're going to make a claim at least have the wherewithal to support it with your source material. like maybe a name that i could google of this supposed jewish tranny fetishist?
anything really. anything but your word.
(Edited 1 minute later.)
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,634
@previous (squeegee !first/o5zA)
I'll be totally honest with you. I read about it ages ago and have no source and it's too late for me to make an effort to find it. I read about it and reported it to you all. I didn't know we were in full debate mode.
I'll be totally honest with you. I read about it ages ago and have no source and it's too late for me to make an effort to find it. I read about it and reported it to you all. I didn't know we were in full debate mode.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,635
kook !!32zdfdzi+ joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,637
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,638
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,639
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 replied with this 12 years ago, 46 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,640
McStinkyNigger !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,646
@466,637 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Apparently I am the scum of the Earth for not only finding shemales attractive, but for also advocating alternative forms of treatment besides hormones and carving a vagina-like gash in the groin.
Apparently I am the scum of the Earth for not only finding shemales attractive, but for also advocating alternative forms of treatment besides hormones and carving a vagina-like gash in the groin.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,647
@previous (McStinkyNigger !dBGi/iH4eY)
Many people regret transitioning. This is like if you would fuck a crazy chick, but also recommend that she see a therapist.
Many people regret transitioning. This is like if you would fuck a crazy chick, but also recommend that she see a therapist.
McStinkyNigger !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,648
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Exactly. Honestly, it's amazing how I'm seen as an evil heretic for thinking like this. That maybe transitions are not for everyone.
Exactly. Honestly, it's amazing how I'm seen as an evil heretic for thinking like this. That maybe transitions are not for everyone.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 9 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,651
dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,652
McStinkyNigger !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,655
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,656
kook !!32zdfdzi+ double-posted this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,657
dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,658
@466,646 (McStinkyNigger !dBGi/iH4eY)
Listen, motherfucker, most people who are committed enough to go through HRT and surgeries are NOT about to experience regret over this. It's not 'a phase'. When we talk about people having the liberty to undergo surgery we are talking about realized people. There are even mandates to appease people like you that state that the prospective trans person has to undergo some amount of therapy before committing to a full sex change. Nobody is saying that therapy shouldn't be used to treat something like this, especially in conjunction with major surgery. But your premise that 'they are mentally ill' and that they should be treated and, i assume, assimilated? these are people who are doing what they want to be happy with themselves, you are in no position to call them mentally ill and certainly not one to start being all self-righteous about this issue like you are the fucking solution to all trans problems. you are the problem walter
Listen, motherfucker, most people who are committed enough to go through HRT and surgeries are NOT about to experience regret over this. It's not 'a phase'. When we talk about people having the liberty to undergo surgery we are talking about realized people. There are even mandates to appease people like you that state that the prospective trans person has to undergo some amount of therapy before committing to a full sex change. Nobody is saying that therapy shouldn't be used to treat something like this, especially in conjunction with major surgery. But your premise that 'they are mentally ill' and that they should be treated and, i assume, assimilated? these are people who are doing what they want to be happy with themselves, you are in no position to call them mentally ill and certainly not one to start being all self-righteous about this issue like you are the fucking solution to all trans problems. you are the problem walter
dw ltd double-posted this 12 years ago, 52 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,659
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,660
McStinkyNigger !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,661
@466,658 (dw ltd)
Why don't you tell Kook this as well? Call her a bitch and tell her how horrible she is because we think it isn't a great idea to turn a penis inside out just because of a mental illness.
Why don't you tell Kook this as well? Call her a bitch and tell her how horrible she is because we think it isn't a great idea to turn a penis inside out just because of a mental illness.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,662
kook !!32zdfdzi+ double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,663
dw ltd (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,664
dw ltd !UdPIZzADAY replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,665
@466,662 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
I acknowledge that some people have regretted it, but I was sincerely not talking about them in the other thread. Most people don't regret it. In my limited experience, my post-op friends are a lot happier in general than they were when they identified as their biological sex. Walter said some really nasty stuff about how trans people are literally 'insane' and basically incapable of basic cognitive functions while also demonizing mental illness in general. This in conjunction with his fetishization of transwomen just really grinds my gears. It's indefensible.
@466,661 (McStinkyNigger !dBGi/iH4eY)
Okay, I think it's fucked up and strange that a queer woman is a transmisogynist. But you have expressed a much, much darker, ignorant, and misguided ideology than her. Consistently. And I dislike you for it. I don't generally trust buspuppie's judgment or reasoning. I was overlooking her little strokes of your ego because i have a shred of humanity left, unlike you you piece of shit
I acknowledge that some people have regretted it, but I was sincerely not talking about them in the other thread. Most people don't regret it. In my limited experience, my post-op friends are a lot happier in general than they were when they identified as their biological sex. Walter said some really nasty stuff about how trans people are literally 'insane' and basically incapable of basic cognitive functions while also demonizing mental illness in general. This in conjunction with his fetishization of transwomen just really grinds my gears. It's indefensible.
@466,661 (McStinkyNigger !dBGi/iH4eY)
Okay, I think it's fucked up and strange that a queer woman is a transmisogynist. But you have expressed a much, much darker, ignorant, and misguided ideology than her. Consistently. And I dislike you for it. I don't generally trust buspuppie's judgment or reasoning. I was overlooking her little strokes of your ego because i have a shred of humanity left, unlike you you piece of shit
dw ltd !UdPIZzADAY double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,666
@466,664 (dw ltd)
yeah that's me alright
grow the fuck up walter seriously just level with someone once in a while
yeah that's me alright
grow the fuck up walter seriously just level with someone once in a while
dw ltd llc triple-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,667
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,670
@466,665 (dw ltd !UdPIZzADAY)
Did you seriously just figure this out? That I'm a sociopathic, inconsiderate asshole?
@466,666 (dw ltd !UdPIZzADAY)
Stop whining.
Did you seriously just figure this out? That I'm a sociopathic, inconsiderate asshole?
@466,666 (dw ltd !UdPIZzADAY)
Stop whining.
dw ltd llc replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,671
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
i've been antagonizing you for years i just thought maybe you'd lighten up a little eventually
i've been antagonizing you for years i just thought maybe you'd lighten up a little eventually
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,672
dw ltd llc replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,673
Metæ !PARAdoxiHw joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 4 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,683
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 40 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,690
@466,670 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Been watching sherlock? Imagining yourself as a detached, emotionless misanthrope?
You're not, walter. You're just dim and not very nice.
Been watching sherlock? Imagining yourself as a detached, emotionless misanthrope?
You're not, walter. You're just dim and not very nice.
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,697
@466,626 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
Or alternatively, that Jew was creating propaganda for life choices guaranteed to sow dissension and difficulty in free Christian societies.
Or alternatively, that Jew was creating propaganda for life choices guaranteed to sow dissension and difficulty in free Christian societies.
Triptych !IupsXZPnnU replied with this 12 years ago, 2 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,714
Metæ !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 12 years ago, 25 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,719
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 21 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,731
Anonymous N replied with this 12 years ago, 12 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,736
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
And you're a obnoxious dim little perma-virgin, not a sociopath. Thanks.
And you're a obnoxious dim little perma-virgin, not a sociopath. Thanks.