Topic: Gender is NOT a social construct.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 started this discussion 12 years ago #33,725
Along with gay propaganda the Jews are tricking meny in the west into thinking gender is a social construct. As I showed in my last thread the parents of a healthy girl were tricked into transforming their girl into a boy which will have HUGE effects on his life in the future so much so he can kill himself.
Who is David Reimer?
David Reimer was a male but unfortunately was the victim of a botched circumcision. (another Jewish trick)
To prove that gender was a social construct psychologist John Money oversaw gender reassignment. The end result was a life of depression, gender swapping and finally suicide. John Money today uses the case of David Reimer as a sign of success (seriously)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money
Who is David Reimer?
David Reimer was a male but unfortunately was the victim of a botched circumcision. (another Jewish trick)
To prove that gender was a social construct psychologist John Money oversaw gender reassignment. The end result was a life of depression, gender swapping and finally suicide. John Money today uses the case of David Reimer as a sign of success (seriously)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 25 seconds later[^] [v] #466,233
> butthurt beta
squeegee !first/o5zA joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 39 seconds later, 1 minute after the original post[^] [v] #466,234
> not worrying about yourself
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,238
@previous (squeegee !first/o5zA)
If you focus only on yourself and neglect others, you will lose; but you will gain if you value others as much as you cherish yourself. - Dalai Lama
If you focus only on yourself and neglect others, you will lose; but you will gain if you value others as much as you cherish yourself. - Dalai Lama
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,239
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
i'm not talking about selfish self-interest, i'm talking about not trampling the rights of other because you feel like it.
i'm not talking about selfish self-interest, i'm talking about not trampling the rights of other because you feel like it.
dw !jdTkvovFCQ joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,242
> I'm not racist
> the jews are tricking
> the jews are tricking
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,245
@466,239 (squeegee !first/o5zA)
So you think it's ok for quacks like John Money to experiment on poor babys who have had their penises cut off by mistake. It would have been better to let him grow up with no penis or a fake one rather than mess with his gender. Now he is dead through painful suicide. That could be your brother or friend.
So you think it's ok for quacks like John Money to experiment on poor babys who have had their penises cut off by mistake. It would have been better to let him grow up with no penis or a fake one rather than mess with his gender. Now he is dead through painful suicide. That could be your brother or friend.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,249
@466,242 (dw !jdTkvovFCQ)
> >I'm not racist
> >the jews are tricking
Not all Jews are bad. The ones at the top of western society are intent on social marxism for their own profit. Notice how they push multiculturalism in the west but not the Jewish homeland. Gay rights too.
> >I'm not racist
> >the jews are tricking
Not all Jews are bad. The ones at the top of western society are intent on social marxism for their own profit. Notice how they push multiculturalism in the west but not the Jewish homeland. Gay rights too.
Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 14 seconds later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,250
> As I showed in my last thread the parents of a healthy girl were tricked into transforming their girl into a boy which will have HUGE effects on his life in the future so much so he can kill himself.
No you did not. You asserted that and then ignored all arguments to the contrary. You'll probably do the same here. Are you simply too lazy to defend your claims, or do you think that your points won't hold up under scrutiny?
> To prove that gender was a social construct psychologist John Money oversaw gender reassignment. The end result was a life of depression, gender swapping and finally suicide. John Money today uses the case of David Reimer as a sign of success (seriously)
Actually, David grew up to have a decent life after he was able to live as his biological gender. IIRC, his suicude was triggered by his partner leaving him. The whole gender thing was most probably a long-term cause, though.
As for Money, his views are irrelevant. Modern psychology acknowledges the case as a failure and rightly criticses Money for his conduct.
No you did not. You asserted that and then ignored all arguments to the contrary. You'll probably do the same here. Are you simply too lazy to defend your claims, or do you think that your points won't hold up under scrutiny?
> To prove that gender was a social construct psychologist John Money oversaw gender reassignment. The end result was a life of depression, gender swapping and finally suicide. John Money today uses the case of David Reimer as a sign of success (seriously)
Actually, David grew up to have a decent life after he was able to live as his biological gender. IIRC, his suicude was triggered by his partner leaving him. The whole gender thing was most probably a long-term cause, though.
As for Money, his views are irrelevant. Modern psychology acknowledges the case as a failure and rightly criticses Money for his conduct.
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dw ltd joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,254
it's one construction that most cultures observe and the effects of forcing gender on anyone is real and devastating
dw ltd double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,255
You are taking something factual and misconstruing it to fit your agenda
sounds like something you say a liberal poster would do
sounds like something you say a liberal poster would do
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,258
@466,245 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
that happened 50 years ago, is an isolated case, and is not the generally applied practice in today's medical circles.
that happened 50 years ago, is an isolated case, and is not the generally applied practice in today's medical circles.
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dw !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 12 years ago, 41 seconds later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,261
@466,249 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
do you believe "the jews" to be an organized group that is trying to do these things?
do you believe "the jews" to be an organized group that is trying to do these things?
Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,264
@466,245 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
I can confirm what Squeegee said, this was an isolated case. In fact, psychology at large actively condemns this case as unethical.
I can confirm what Squeegee said, this was an isolated case. In fact, psychology at large actively condemns this case as unethical.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 11 seconds later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,265
@466,261 (dw !jdTkvovFCQ)
Like illuminati? No I don't believe they hold meetings or other sorts but they do operate in a certen way which is contempt for western christian society forcing cultural marxism through propaganda.
Like illuminati? No I don't believe they hold meetings or other sorts but they do operate in a certen way which is contempt for western christian society forcing cultural marxism through propaganda.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 4 seconds later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,266
> I'm not racist, but everyone who disagrees with me has been tricked by the Jews.
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 54 seconds later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,268
@466,261 (dw !jdTkvovFCQ)
I've noticed that this is a key thing in discrimination in general, trying to paint groups that they don't like as some organised, malevolent movement. It's actually quite unsettling.
I've noticed that this is a key thing in discrimination in general, trying to paint groups that they don't like as some organised, malevolent movement. It's actually quite unsettling.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 29 seconds later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,269
@466,264 (Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx)
> isolated case
Although the experiment was a failure it was a sucess in that it proved gender is not a social construct which was the point of my thread.
> isolated case
Although the experiment was a failure it was a sucess in that it proved gender is not a social construct which was the point of my thread.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 51 seconds later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,270
@466,268 (Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx)
> the gay agenda and homosexual propaganda
it's funny how you're 100% correct
> the gay agenda and homosexual propaganda
it's funny how you're 100% correct
Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 4 seconds later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,271
@466,265 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
I notice that you've once again gone quiet on your original arguments about gender. Why bother making these threads if you're doing to abandon your arguments the moment people post counter-points?
Edit: ah, never mind.
I notice that you've once again gone quiet on your original arguments about gender. Why bother making these threads if you're doing to abandon your arguments the moment people post counter-points?
Edit: ah, never mind.
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dw !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,272
@466,265 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
Not Illuminati, you keep saying "the jews are trying to *" which means that the jews are an organisation, right?
Not Illuminati, you keep saying "the jews are trying to *" which means that the jews are an organisation, right?
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 30 seconds later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,273
@466,266 (G)> > I'm not racist, but everyone who disagrees with me has been tricked by the Jews.
> Oh, okay.
When why is Israel hostile towards gays and multiculturalism but love to promote it in the west?
Meta !PARAdoxiHw joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 13 seconds later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,274
@466,268 (Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx)
And the way to vanquish the malevolent, organized movement is to... make your own malevolent, organized movement.
And the way to vanquish the malevolent, organized movement is to... make your own malevolent, organized movement.
dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 21 seconds later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,275
@466,268 (Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx)
Yeah like 'SJW' 'liberals' and 'Jews' are terrorist factions with overt missions to change the face of Americas Internet government and culture
@466,269 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
No, it proved that you can't fucking force someone to live with a gender identity that they don't accept.
Yeah like 'SJW' 'liberals' and 'Jews' are terrorist factions with overt missions to change the face of Americas Internet government and culture
@466,269 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
No, it proved that you can't fucking force someone to live with a gender identity that they don't accept.
Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 33 seconds later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,277
@466,269 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
Yes, I agree with this. I would say it's largely biologically driven. Though there may be some enviromental factors too.
What people don't like is how you try to use it to attack groups like gays or Jews, or how you claim that the parents if the kid forced the kid into it.
Yes, I agree with this. I would say it's largely biologically driven. Though there may be some enviromental factors too.
What people don't like is how you try to use it to attack groups like gays or Jews, or how you claim that the parents if the kid forced the kid into it.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,294
@466,274 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
> And the way to vanquish the malevolent, organized movement is to... make your own malevolent, organized movement.
I think being aware of it is enough. Then you can choose to swallow their pill or not.
> And the way to vanquish the malevolent, organized movement is to... make your own malevolent, organized movement.
I think being aware of it is enough. Then you can choose to swallow their pill or not.
Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 5 seconds later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,295
@466,274 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
You're referring to groups like the Nazis or KKK, right?
@466,275 (dw ltd)
I suppose it makes them easier to discriminate against. It dehumanises them a bit and makes the bigots feel like they're the good guys in some conflict.
You're referring to groups like the Nazis or KKK, right?
@466,275 (dw ltd)
I suppose it makes them easier to discriminate against. It dehumanises them a bit and makes the bigots feel like they're the good guys in some conflict.
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 37 seconds later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,297
His last name was literally Money?
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,301
@466,277 (Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx)
I like gays. I have a few gay friends and I support gay rights. It just goes wrong when its propaganda is used as a weapon or a giant wrecking ball to force people/companies into your bidding.
I like gays. I have a few gay friends and I support gay rights. It just goes wrong when its propaganda is used as a weapon or a giant wrecking ball to force people/companies into your bidding.
Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,305
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
But you have no evidence that that kid was forced into it by "gay propaganda". It seems like you're using the case in an attempt to attack the percieved gay propaganda.
But you have no evidence that that kid was forced into it by "gay propaganda". It seems like you're using the case in an attempt to attack the percieved gay propaganda.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 58 seconds later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,306
@466,301 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
Its kinda funny how disliking gay propaganda automatically earns you the hateful bigot label, lol liberals
Its kinda funny how disliking gay propaganda automatically earns you the hateful bigot label, lol liberals
dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,307
@466,295 (Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx)
It just helps him when he tries to prove dastardly ulterior motives on their parts. A cohesive group is easier to attack than a nebulous group of people who have little in common and no ulterior motive or agenda at all. He's just promoting hate speech by doing this I'm so pissed that people are like this
It just helps him when he tries to prove dastardly ulterior motives on their parts. A cohesive group is easier to attack than a nebulous group of people who have little in common and no ulterior motive or agenda at all. He's just promoting hate speech by doing this I'm so pissed that people are like this
dw ltd double-posted this 12 years ago, 45 seconds later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,308
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 29 seconds later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,309
@466,306 (J)
i still don't see how it's gay propaganda when it's really just people exercising their rights to freedom of association and their right to self determination.
i still don't see how it's gay propaganda when it's really just people exercising their rights to freedom of association and their right to self determination.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 12 years ago, 13 seconds later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,310
Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,315
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Ah, right. Just clarifying what you meant.
Yeah, I guess it is kinda ironic, when you look at it like that!
@466,307 (dw ltd)
Indeed.
> I'm so pissed that people are like this
It is sad, but these sorts of viewpoints are on the decline. They used to be the norm, now they are much less so.
Ah, right. Just clarifying what you meant.
Yeah, I guess it is kinda ironic, when you look at it like that!
@466,307 (dw ltd)
Indeed.
> I'm so pissed that people are like this
It is sad, but these sorts of viewpoints are on the decline. They used to be the norm, now they are much less so.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,321
@previous (Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx)
> It is sad, but these sorts of viewpoints are on the decline. They used to be the norm, now they are much less so.
For you they seem on the decline but that's because you mix in liberal circles. If you were a Muslim it would seem Islam is on the rise, if you were an atheist it would seem religion is on the decline.
> It is sad, but these sorts of viewpoints are on the decline. They used to be the norm, now they are much less so.
For you they seem on the decline but that's because you mix in liberal circles. If you were a Muslim it would seem Islam is on the rise, if you were an atheist it would seem religion is on the decline.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,327
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
nope. Progressiveness has been the default direction society has flown for all of human history. Yes we've taken backwards steps centuries at a time, but ultimately human culture always trends towards progressiveness.
nope. Progressiveness has been the default direction society has flown for all of human history. Yes we've taken backwards steps centuries at a time, but ultimately human culture always trends towards progressiveness.
Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 43 seconds later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,328
@466,321 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
Nah, I'd say that, worldwide, tolerance has become much more popular. Just look at the western world, and the progress that's made with race, sexuality and such. And we're also seeing movements advocating more tolerance emerging around the world too, even in more hardline countries like Islamic ones.
I'm not saying it's great everywhere, but there has been definite progress.
Nah, I'd say that, worldwide, tolerance has become much more popular. Just look at the western world, and the progress that's made with race, sexuality and such. And we're also seeing movements advocating more tolerance emerging around the world too, even in more hardline countries like Islamic ones.
I'm not saying it's great everywhere, but there has been definite progress.
dw ltd joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 20 seconds later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #466,329
@466,321 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
i'm an atheist but i don't wish for religion to dissipate because it is not inherently harmful
i'm an atheist but i don't wish for religion to dissipate because it is not inherently harmful
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 21 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,353
@previous (dw ltd)
Sort of reminds me of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu7AQTs_y5A
If you think religion isn't inherently harmful then you're cherry picking the best of religion
Sort of reminds me of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu7AQTs_y5A
If you think religion isn't inherently harmful then you're cherry picking the best of religion
dw se awd llc arr replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,355
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
It isn't. If you think that religion is inherently harmful then you don't understand its place in human development
It isn't. If you think that religion is inherently harmful then you don't understand its place in human development
Dinkleberg !DpML8do7Zs replied with this 12 years ago, 26 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,356
@466,353 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
If your not cherry-piking the best of religion your cherry-picking the worst of it
If your not cherry-piking the best of religion your cherry-picking the worst of it
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,359
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,366
Of course it isn't, if evolution is reality that fact alone necessitates gender is a function of physical sex and optimal reproductive strategies. It's surprisingly basic, but none want to admit it.
And also, we have been bombarding our environment with estrogen mimickers, it's in no way delusional to imagine sex hormones would impact human sexuality. It's basic biology at this point.
And also, we have been bombarding our environment with estrogen mimickers, it's in no way delusional to imagine sex hormones would impact human sexuality. It's basic biology at this point.
dw se awd llc arr replied with this 12 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,373
@466,359 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
No, retard, to understand and explain. Religion is probably most importantly a precursor to philosophy.
@previous (L)
Arguments that hearken back to evolutionary necessity are often… terrible and terribly misguided.
It's surprisingly basic that humans are able to make decisions because we are capable of it. However, some people seem to want to eliminate this… Evolutionary progress. Because a human that they find difficult to classify as 'male' or 'female' makes them uncomfortable.
Evolution doesn't support a gender binary, you do.
No, retard, to understand and explain. Religion is probably most importantly a precursor to philosophy.
@previous (L)
Arguments that hearken back to evolutionary necessity are often… terrible and terribly misguided.
It's surprisingly basic that humans are able to make decisions because we are capable of it. However, some people seem to want to eliminate this… Evolutionary progress. Because a human that they find difficult to classify as 'male' or 'female' makes them uncomfortable.
Evolution doesn't support a gender binary, you do.
dw se awd llc arr double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,375
and yes, who could forget, the crisis wherein the feminists and their estrogen are bombarding us Men and Our Planet in droves like neutrinos
decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 10 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,376
@466,366 (L)
Sex really doesn't inherently necessitate gender. You don't need a man and a woman to reproduce — you just need someone to provide sperm, someone to provide an egg, and somewhere to put the egg while it grows.
Sex really doesn't inherently necessitate gender. You don't need a man and a woman to reproduce — you just need someone to provide sperm, someone to provide an egg, and somewhere to put the egg while it grows.
dw se awd llc arr replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,378
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,381
@466,366 (L)
homosexuals contribute to group reproductive strategies. Google altruism in the animal kingdom for specific behaviors that put group survival over individual survival strategies.
i.e. homosexuals have no children and therefor contribute to society by alleviating the burden children have on a group.
Just like how alley cats will often nurse the offspring of other cats, despite it not having any benefit to that individuals reproductive ability.
homosexuals contribute to group reproductive strategies. Google altruism in the animal kingdom for specific behaviors that put group survival over individual survival strategies.
i.e. homosexuals have no children and therefor contribute to society by alleviating the burden children have on a group.
Just like how alley cats will often nurse the offspring of other cats, despite it not having any benefit to that individuals reproductive ability.
dw se awd llc arr replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,383
@previous (squeegee !first/o5zA)
but it's not even true that homosexuals are incapable of having children
but it's not even true that homosexuals are incapable of having children
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,385
@previous (dw se awd llc arr)
correct. but homosexuality doesn't encourage individual reproductive strategies, but instead impacts the over-all reproductive ability of the group (of which they are a part and they can directly contribute too through reproduction as well.) Though they don't necessarily have to reproduce themselves to provide an overall increase in successful group reproduction, they may.
correct. but homosexuality doesn't encourage individual reproductive strategies, but instead impacts the over-all reproductive ability of the group (of which they are a part and they can directly contribute too through reproduction as well.) Though they don't necessarily have to reproduce themselves to provide an overall increase in successful group reproduction, they may.
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dw se awd llc arr replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,387
@previous (squeegee !first/o5zA)
this debate belongs under where shitarse said that gay marriage is disallowed/should continue to be solely because 'they can't reproduce'
this debate belongs under where shitarse said that gay marriage is disallowed/should continue to be solely because 'they can't reproduce'
Anonymous L replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,389
@466,381 (squeegee !first/o5zA)
I'm aware of all that and at no point did I ever argue homosexuals were not a product of natural evolutionary processes. Better check that privilege.
I'm simply stating hypoagency has been a powerful determiner of female reproductive success for the vast majority of human history, while the male struggle for dominance has simultaneously been an indicator of male reproductive success.
I'm aware of all that and at no point did I ever argue homosexuals were not a product of natural evolutionary processes. Better check that privilege.
I'm simply stating hypoagency has been a powerful determiner of female reproductive success for the vast majority of human history, while the male struggle for dominance has simultaneously been an indicator of male reproductive success.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 47 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,390
@466,387 (dw se awd llc arr)
ikr, many gays adopt, which provides a benefit to the health of the overall group. Just because they don't directly add to the gene pool, they often contribute to rearing the gene pool they are a part of.
ikr, many gays adopt, which provides a benefit to the health of the overall group. Just because they don't directly add to the gene pool, they often contribute to rearing the gene pool they are a part of.
dw se awd llc arr replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,391
@previous (squeegee !first/o5zA)
well in addition to adoption which is great you have queer trans men who are capable of literally bearing children. literally pregnant men.
two women can reproduce together genetically as well.
just putting that out there because so many people ignore these facts
well in addition to adoption which is great you have queer trans men who are capable of literally bearing children. literally pregnant men.
two women can reproduce together genetically as well.
just putting that out there because so many people ignore these facts
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,393
@466,389 (L)
> Better check that privilege.
still don't know what this is even supposed to mean. Also i googled hypoagency (which isn't even in the spell checker) and the top result was a yahoo answers post and the rest had to do with the MRA (which i also had to google because it's not a well known about mainstream phenomenon) and i had to actually google the phrase "hypoagency definition" to actually get a definition of the word because it itself is not a mainstream term.
all this stuff is pretty fringe...
> Better check that privilege.
still don't know what this is even supposed to mean. Also i googled hypoagency (which isn't even in the spell checker) and the top result was a yahoo answers post and the rest had to do with the MRA (which i also had to google because it's not a well known about mainstream phenomenon) and i had to actually google the phrase "hypoagency definition" to actually get a definition of the word because it itself is not a mainstream term.
all this stuff is pretty fringe...
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 0 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,394
@466,376 (decibelmilliwatts !!beW+FQoWB)
> Sex really doesn't inherently necessitate gender. You don't need a man and a woman to reproduce — you just need someone to provide sperm, someone to provide an egg, and somewhere to put the egg while it grows.
Yes it does.
> You don't need a man and a woman to reproduce — you just need someone to provide sperm, someone to provide an egg, and somewhere to put the egg while it grows.
Only thanks to modern science. That could vanish tomorrow.
> Sex really doesn't inherently necessitate gender. You don't need a man and a woman to reproduce — you just need someone to provide sperm, someone to provide an egg, and somewhere to put the egg while it grows.
Yes it does.
> You don't need a man and a woman to reproduce — you just need someone to provide sperm, someone to provide an egg, and somewhere to put the egg while it grows.
Only thanks to modern science. That could vanish tomorrow.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,395
@466,391 (dw se awd llc arr)
i never said gay's cannot physically reproduce, i'm saying homosexuality doesn't facilitate individual reproduction. I never said it can't happen. in fact, it happens all the time.
i never said gay's cannot physically reproduce, i'm saying homosexuality doesn't facilitate individual reproduction. I never said it can't happen. in fact, it happens all the time.
dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,398
dw ltd double-posted this 12 years ago, 16 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,399
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #466,401
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,406
@466,398 (dw ltd)
> sex isn't gender
> what about examples of variation in aneuploidy
Mutations, freaks of nature.
> sex isn't gender
> what about examples of variation in aneuploidy
Mutations, freaks of nature.
dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,411
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
> calling a person you can't classify into gender binary freaks of nature
that's like saying left handed people are evil
> calling a person you can't classify into gender binary freaks of nature
that's like saying left handed people are evil
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,418
@previous (dw ltd)
> >calling a person you can't classify into gender binary freaks of nature
> that's like saying left handed people are evil
You let emotion get in the way. Nature doesn't have emotion.
When you have mutations and abnormalities they become freaks of nature. I'm not saying "kill it with fire" I'm just saying it's not the norm.
> >calling a person you can't classify into gender binary freaks of nature
> that's like saying left handed people are evil
You let emotion get in the way. Nature doesn't have emotion.
When you have mutations and abnormalities they become freaks of nature. I'm not saying "kill it with fire" I'm just saying it's not the norm.
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dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,419
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
You aren't in a position to define normality.
Calling someone a 'freak' for being different sounds like repugnance to me. Your assertions are far more emotional than mine.
You aren't in a position to define normality.
Calling someone a 'freak' for being different sounds like repugnance to me. Your assertions are far more emotional than mine.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,422
@previous (dw ltd)
Nope. I was simply point out that sex = gender if you like it or not. Just because someone is born with a penis and a vagina once in a while doesn't mean you can blow sex and gender roles out the window. Sometimes it snows in June but that doesn't mean seasons/weather are social constructs.
Nope. I was simply point out that sex = gender if you like it or not. Just because someone is born with a penis and a vagina once in a while doesn't mean you can blow sex and gender roles out the window. Sometimes it snows in June but that doesn't mean seasons/weather are social constructs.
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squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 15 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,423
@466,418 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
deviation from the norm drives evolution. All species have a finite time before "the norm" evolves to become "the exception." The exception is the rule, as the norm becomes ever more less intrinsic to the gene pool.
in otherwords, there is. no. norm.
deviation from the norm drives evolution. All species have a finite time before "the norm" evolves to become "the exception." The exception is the rule, as the norm becomes ever more less intrinsic to the gene pool.
in otherwords, there is. no. norm.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,427
dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,428
@466,422 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
do you know what you are talking about? i'm not talking about a rare hermaphroditic occurrence i'm talking about frequent variations on your delusional two-sexes-are-genders reality
additionally variation and mutation are functions of evolution if you are still aiming up that alley
it's not a matter of whether or not you or I 'like' it, gender is constructed and has fluidity
what don't you like about that
…plus our definitions of seasons are constructed retard
do you know what you are talking about? i'm not talking about a rare hermaphroditic occurrence i'm talking about frequent variations on your delusional two-sexes-are-genders reality
additionally variation and mutation are functions of evolution if you are still aiming up that alley
it's not a matter of whether or not you or I 'like' it, gender is constructed and has fluidity
what don't you like about that
…plus our definitions of seasons are constructed retard
dw ltd double-posted this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,429
@466,427 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
a person experiencing gender dysphoria is not debilitated in the same way as a person with epidermodysplasia verruciformis is and the genetic causes involved are not even similar to aneuploidy
a person experiencing gender dysphoria is not debilitated in the same way as a person with epidermodysplasia verruciformis is and the genetic causes involved are not even similar to aneuploidy
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,430
@466,428 (dw ltd)
> …plus our definitions of seasons are constructed retard
What we call them but those are just names. You can't harvest your crops late winter because you don't like to be opressed.
> …plus our definitions of seasons are constructed retard
What we call them but those are just names. You can't harvest your crops late winter because you don't like to be opressed.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 45 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,431
@466,427 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
actually it is, but not every evolution is successful enough to become generalized...
actually it is, but not every evolution is successful enough to become generalized...
squeegee !first/o5zA double-posted this 12 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,437
@466,427 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
oh wait, i see what you're implying with that picture. Kinda like how someone with a dark suntan in scotland deviates from the "norm."
yeah, that's not evolution any more than having a cold is evolution.
is that your point? it's rather obvious. I was talking more about genetic deviation due to selective pressures and reproduction.
oh wait, i see what you're implying with that picture. Kinda like how someone with a dark suntan in scotland deviates from the "norm."
yeah, that's not evolution any more than having a cold is evolution.
is that your point? it's rather obvious. I was talking more about genetic deviation due to selective pressures and reproduction.
dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,438
@466,430 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
When a season begins and ends, and their names. My plum tree blossomed early this year, in mid-winter. You are ascribing concrete qualities to seasons and people that doesn't exist.
What we call people is just… names. They are still people. Not freaks.
what's wrong with a person slightly redefining themselves? would you complain if autumn were to be moved back a day? would you notice unless it were declared?
When a season begins and ends, and their names. My plum tree blossomed early this year, in mid-winter. You are ascribing concrete qualities to seasons and people that doesn't exist.
What we call people is just… names. They are still people. Not freaks.
what's wrong with a person slightly redefining themselves? would you complain if autumn were to be moved back a day? would you notice unless it were declared?
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 40 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,451
@466,393 (squeegee !first/o5zA)
Don't blame me for your stupidity. These are well understood concepts among the top intellects out there ATM.
Of course, the propaganda machine doesn't want you to be empowered, so it doesn't want you to know the truth.
Don't blame me for your stupidity. These are well understood concepts among the top intellects out there ATM.
Of course, the propaganda machine doesn't want you to be empowered, so it doesn't want you to know the truth.
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squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,456
@previous (N)
> Don't blame me for your stupidity. These are well understood concepts among the top intellects out there ATM.
What? That weight lifting doesn't have any effect on the physical outcome of your progeny? no shit sherlock. i'm the one explaining it to you
> Of course, the propaganda machine doesn't want you to be empowered, so it doesn't want you to know the truth.
motherfucker... do you ever back up anything you say with background? What fucking propaganda from what fucking machine and what fucking truth?
your talking points have no substance.
jesus tap dancing christ
> Don't blame me for your stupidity. These are well understood concepts among the top intellects out there ATM.
What? That weight lifting doesn't have any effect on the physical outcome of your progeny? no shit sherlock. i'm the one explaining it to you
> Of course, the propaganda machine doesn't want you to be empowered, so it doesn't want you to know the truth.
motherfucker... do you ever back up anything you say with background? What fucking propaganda from what fucking machine and what fucking truth?
your talking points have no substance.
jesus tap dancing christ
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Anonymous N replied with this 12 years ago, 11 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,457
@previous (squeegee !first/o5zA)
Have fun in the collapse of western civilization. I tried to warn you, but you were far to arrogant to hear.
Oh well, I've enjoyed sparring with you. For this reason alone, I will give you the single most valuable piece of advice for what is coming: own gold and silver.
Have fun in the collapse of western civilization. I tried to warn you, but you were far to arrogant to hear.
Oh well, I've enjoyed sparring with you. For this reason alone, I will give you the single most valuable piece of advice for what is coming: own gold and silver.
Green joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,460
@previous (N)
Shove your gold and silver up your fat warm arse and smelt it into a shield you autistic halfwit. That way you can play soldiers when civilization collapses.
Shove your gold and silver up your fat warm arse and smelt it into a shield you autistic halfwit. That way you can play soldiers when civilization collapses.
Anonymous L replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,462
@previous (Green)
Clearly a rational argument for the continued dominance of the Anglo-American empire.
Clearly a rational argument for the continued dominance of the Anglo-American empire.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 32 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,493
@466,457 (N)
> Have fun in the collapse of western civilization. I tried to warn you, but you were far to arrogant to hear.
>
> Oh well, I've enjoyed sparring with you. For this reason alone, I will give you the single most valuable piece of advice for what is coming: own gold and silver.
lol, gold and silver will be worthless if civilization collapses. The only value will be in weapons and food, derp.
> Have fun in the collapse of western civilization. I tried to warn you, but you were far to arrogant to hear.
>
> Oh well, I've enjoyed sparring with you. For this reason alone, I will give you the single most valuable piece of advice for what is coming: own gold and silver.
lol, gold and silver will be worthless if civilization collapses. The only value will be in weapons and food, derp.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,496
@466,457 (N)
> Have fun in the collapse of western civilization. I tried to warn you, but you were far to arrogant to hear.
>
> Oh well, I've enjoyed sparring with you. For this reason alone, I will give you the single most valuable piece of advice for what is coming: own gold and silver.
You're talking to someone who prays on emotionally damage sex workers. He is a tool of the Jews and a victim of cultural marxism.
> Have fun in the collapse of western civilization. I tried to warn you, but you were far to arrogant to hear.
>
> Oh well, I've enjoyed sparring with you. For this reason alone, I will give you the single most valuable piece of advice for what is coming: own gold and silver.
You're talking to someone who prays on emotionally damage sex workers. He is a tool of the Jews and a victim of cultural marxism.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 53 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,498
Green replied with this 12 years ago, 5 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,499
dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 20 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,514
Anonymous L replied with this 12 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,518
@466,493 (squeegee !first/o5zA)
> implying free trade would be destroyed by the collapse of a violent regulatory authority as opposed to improved by such a development.
> implying gold & silver won't buy food.
> implying gold & silver won't buy guns.
> implying gold & silver won't buy any and all the things paper money used to, and more expediently than most other units of barter possibly could.
Wow, you are seriously ignorant regarding world history. In absolutely every fiat currency collapse we have records for (fyi: all fiat currencies ever tried have collapsed as a result of deficit spending), gold and silver have done a near complete accounting of total productive output.
Keep making excuses, poorfag.
> implying free trade would be destroyed by the collapse of a violent regulatory authority as opposed to improved by such a development.
> implying gold & silver won't buy food.
> implying gold & silver won't buy guns.
> implying gold & silver won't buy any and all the things paper money used to, and more expediently than most other units of barter possibly could.
Wow, you are seriously ignorant regarding world history. In absolutely every fiat currency collapse we have records for (fyi: all fiat currencies ever tried have collapsed as a result of deficit spending), gold and silver have done a near complete accounting of total productive output.
Keep making excuses, poorfag.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 12 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,530
@previous (L)
why would i trade my guns and food for lumps of yellow metal? That would be stupid, those lumps of metal won't do me any good, but the fur coat i skinned off a bear will keep someone alive through the cold nuclear winter. If there's organized trade enough that people are willing to represent their labor with currency and exchange that for goods then you're not talking about the collapse of society, but rather economic downturn and political turmoil. Not the full on outright collapse of civilization.
I would kill you with my weapons, take your food, women and furs, and leave your heavy lumps of gold for future generations to pick up the pieces. it would do you, nor anyone alive today, ANY good, to have currency of any kind after the collapse of modern society.
herpity derpity derp derp
why would i trade my guns and food for lumps of yellow metal? That would be stupid, those lumps of metal won't do me any good, but the fur coat i skinned off a bear will keep someone alive through the cold nuclear winter. If there's organized trade enough that people are willing to represent their labor with currency and exchange that for goods then you're not talking about the collapse of society, but rather economic downturn and political turmoil. Not the full on outright collapse of civilization.
I would kill you with my weapons, take your food, women and furs, and leave your heavy lumps of gold for future generations to pick up the pieces. it would do you, nor anyone alive today, ANY good, to have currency of any kind after the collapse of modern society.
herpity derpity derp derp
Anonymous L replied with this 12 years ago, 9 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,544
@previous (squeegee !first/o5zA)
How sadly Hollywood your delusions are.
Nevermind the fact that for more than 600 generations, in any place and at any time, better men than you have worked as mercenaries for such shiny pieces of metal.
But don't worry, I'm sure that Rambo bullshit will work out for you just fine.
How sadly Hollywood your delusions are.
Nevermind the fact that for more than 600 generations, in any place and at any time, better men than you have worked as mercenaries for such shiny pieces of metal.
But don't worry, I'm sure that Rambo bullshit will work out for you just fine.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,553
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,561
@previous (squeegee !first/o5zA)
I think you miss the point. Civilization won't fully collapse so stocking up on guns, ammo and food is rather paranoid. With gold and silver you have a method of exchange in the event of a currency collapse like what's going on in Argentina right now.
I think you miss the point. Civilization won't fully collapse so stocking up on guns, ammo and food is rather paranoid. With gold and silver you have a method of exchange in the event of a currency collapse like what's going on in Argentina right now.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,570
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)> I think you miss the point. Civilization won't fully collapse
now who's being delusional
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 10 hours later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,702
@466,561 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
Human desires for group cooperation and trade exist independently from any mythological civilization. The collapse of society will only provide more freedom of trade and free association, not less.
The whole of society would reform itself along classical tribal veins. But yeah, bankrupting the police state means we'll probably have to pay into some sort of protection racket for any hope at a peaceful life.
Human desires for group cooperation and trade exist independently from any mythological civilization. The collapse of society will only provide more freedom of trade and free association, not less.
The whole of society would reform itself along classical tribal veins. But yeah, bankrupting the police state means we'll probably have to pay into some sort of protection racket for any hope at a peaceful life.
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,712
@op
Yes, it is.
Yes, it is.
Metæ !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #466,773
@466,530 (squeegee !first/o5zA)
I'd take an AK-47 and a pallet of Spam over all the gold in the world in a SHTF/apocalypse scenario.
I'd take an AK-47 and a pallet of Spam over all the gold in the world in a SHTF/apocalypse scenario.