> Born into a girl's body, Ben Brockwell-Jones' story hit the headlines last year after his parents Wes and Rebecca Jones made a controversial decision to start a process which would culminate in medically stopping the onset of female puberty.
> Last night, little Ben walked in the Pride Parade. Ben was a guest on the Israeli Embassy float, which faced political protest last night. Pink-clad protesters blocked the parade route and raised banners criticising "Israeli apartheid". Four protesters were removed by security.
> But Ben was walking behind the float, so safely avoided protesters.
> The 7-year-old has been been living and attending school as a boy for more than a year after telling his parents he was not the little girl born to them.
> He will start undergoing pyschological assessments as early as June in order to "kick-start" the process of receiving the drugs which will only be prescribed if he is found to be mentally stable and once doctors are able to determine when he will start puberty.
So this 7 year old child started to trans into a member of the opposite sex at 5 and a half because he said he was a boy and not a girl. I don't believe a child of so young can decide that but his parents did.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later[^][v]#466,100
> Ben was a guest on the Israeli Embassy float
hmm...
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 46 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^][v]#466,101
A picture of his "Progressive parents" who seemed a little too keen for their baby girl to be a boy.
In places like India and China parents prefer to have a boy over a girl and it's common for mothers with a girl to kill their daughter and try for a son. In the west it would be alsost impossable to get away with that (see madeleine mccann) so they turned their girl into a boy then used the lbgt community to support them.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 24 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^][v]#466,102
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) triple-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 minutes after the original post[^][v]#466,103
@466,100 (B)
This and I'm glad you picked it up. Multiculturalism for Europe and America with Jewish support but Israeli is for the Jews only.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 40 seconds later, 5 minutes after the original post[^][v]#466,104
What the fuck are they doing to these children to make them want to change their gender at such a young age? I'm guessing it's the exposure to the Zionists' luminescent transgender brainwash frequencies.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 51 seconds later, 6 minutes after the original post[^][v]#466,105
> implying gay people even like trannys
Every tranny I have met has been fucking crazy, plain and simple, dont lump us in with those idiots.
I stopped associating with tumblr about a year and a half ago once this shit started happening.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^][v]#466,108
@previous (D)
I apologize for grouping gays with trans but I feel that it's part of the bigger picture of groups highjacking other support groups to gain strength. I'm all for gay rights and adult trans rights but sadly you have Gay/Trans and feminism grouped toghter under once progressive liberal mess.
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^][v]#466,109
@466,103 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
Israel doesn't even allow gay marriage.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^][v]#466,111
@466,108 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
You ever heard of the TERF movement?
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 28 minutes after the original post[^][v]#466,112
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
I have. I think it's funny how these liberal groups are filled with conflict.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 30 minutes after the original post[^][v]#466,113
Mother of the child admits she is mentally ill.
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 11 minutes later, 41 minutes after the original post[^][v]#466,114
@466,112 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
Leftism is doomed to devour itself. It always turns into the oppression Olympics. @466,111 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
You think they'd be glad that men want to be more like women. But that would take "teh patriarchy" away from them as an excuse.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 46 minutes after the original post[^][v]#466,115
EVERY.THREAD.IS.THE.SAME
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^][v]#466,116
@466,114 (B)
It's a problem because the trannies are trying to get in on their female privileges. @previous (E)
Sorry it isn't a Green/Falco shitpost. Besides, these threads were far more common when Koo was around.
squeegee !first/o5zA joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,128
oh my god, jesus fucking christ people. You idiots are so fucking concerend with shit that doesn't effect you at all. Why the fuck do you care so god damn much about how other people choose to live their lives, it's none of your god damned business!
Fuck! All you sons of bitches care about is if people are gay, or if people are trans, or if people are circumcised, or if people are living they way they want too. Who the fuck are you idiots to decide for everyone else what is appropriate and good for everyone else.
None of this shit fucking effects you, it doesn't matter if some stranger is circumcised or gay, that's doesn't have any influence over your life at all.
Why do you fucks want to tell everyone else how to be and how to live. Shut. the. fuck. up. it's none of your god damned business how other people choose to live their lives or raise their children. You're a bunch of fascist fuck holes who think you know better than everyone else and i'm sick of you idiot children and your pathetic, ignorant views on social control.
fuck off with your opinions
Nobody gives a good god damned what you think, because you can't just be in charge of your own life, you somehow think you should be in charge of everyone's lives. Fuck. YOu.
Mind your own business.
Stop trying to "fix the world" according to your views, and go live your life the way you want too and stop trying to MAKE EVERYONE ELSE ALIGN WITH YOUR VIEWS. FUCK OFF,
YOU
STUPID
FUCKING
CHILDREN.
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Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,129
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,130
@466,128 (squeegee !first/o5zA) > Stop trying to "fix the world" according to your views
It would be funny if they tried, but the farthest they'll get along that path is pointlessly bitching on some obscure Internet forums.
Anonymous B replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,131
@previous (G)
hay guise I posted about ableism on tumblr and then I called someone on reddit cishet scum! I am teh activist!!1
Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 33 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,132
Kids actually can tell that young. See, the brains of people who do have gender dyphoria are actually different to those of people who are comfortable with their biological sex. There have been many cases where young kids have said that they feel that they were the wrong gender. Your attempt to blame it on "gay propaganda" really does sound like a hamfisted attempt at gay-bashing, since there is a recognised biological cause to it.
As for whether 7 or under is too young to begin treatment, that's an interesting question. I'd say maybe somewhat older could be better, just to be sure that the child is set on it. But on the flip side, delaying it for too long could result in prolonged discomfort.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 14 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,137
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 18 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,143
@466,128 (squeegee !first/o5zA) > You idiots are so fucking concerend with shit that doesn't effect you at all.
When Nazi Germany invaded Poland it had no effect on Britain and France at all.
> Stop trying to "fix the world" according to your views
That's what being human is. Tell that to all the social justice warriors.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,144
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
germany invading poland is not the same thing as a person choosing to be transgendered or have their children circumcised.
You not being able to tell the difference is exactly why you are an ignorant fucking child
> That's what being human is. Tell that to all the social justice warriors.
No it's not, you fucking imbecile. The fact that you think this makes you, and idiots like you, legitimately dangerous to people's liberty.
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Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,146
In fact, OP, do you have any evidence that this person's choice to change genders was caused by "gay propaganda"? You seem to be just assuming that that's the cause.
@466,143 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2) > That's what being human is. Tell that to all the social justice warriors.
I don't quite understand what you're saying here. If it's "only human", then what's wrong with social justice activists doing it? Aren't they just doing the same thing as you?
Green joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 20 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,147
Gay propaganda turned me into a crossdresser.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 58 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,148
@466,144 (squeegee !first/o5zA)
That child didn't choose to be transgendered. His mother decided for him so she could be the center of attention through her "son"
The child passed through psychological examination because he was brainwashed by his crazy mother all day. Remember he was 5 when this happened. A 5 year old child.
> > That's what being human is. Tell that to all the social justice warriors.
> No it's not, you fucking imbecile.
Humans have been doing that for 1000s of years. You ignoramus.
Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,149
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2) > That child didn't choose to be transgendered. His mother decided for him so she could be the center of attention through her "son"
I notice that you ignored my point about there being an established biological basis for this, and that it has often presented at an early age.
> The child passed through psychological examination because he was brainwashed by his crazy mother all day. Remember he was 5 when this happened. A 5 year old child.
Actually, such conditioning is not necessarily effective. There was a case where a concentrated effort was made to raise a male child as girl, but he never felt comfortable in it and the psychologist trying to do it often had to try to reinforce it, and was ultimately unsuccessful. So even if these people decided to for some reason brainwash their child for some minor media fame, it's questionable whether this would have passed a psychological exam.
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squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 46 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,150
> The child passed through psychological examination because he was brainwashed by his crazy mother all day.
So you were present during all of this and you're also the doctor that proctored the exam?
Shut the fuck up. You are not a part of this, and nothing about this effects you even remotely.
fuck, i didn't mean to edit out everything i said, but the point remains.
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Anonymous G replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,151
@466,149 (Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx)
Why are you in 3D all of a sudden? It's a little scary.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,152
@466,149 (Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx) > I notice that you ignored...
I don't read any of your posts. You're below me and this is the last time I reply to you.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,155
> > The child passed through psychological examination because he was brainwashed by his crazy mother all day. > So you were present during all of this and you're also the doctor that proctored the exam? > Shut the fuck up. You are not a part of this, and nothing about this effects you even remotely.
How do you know nothing like this effects me? Maybe I care about the future of white children.
I'm sorry you only date damaged sex workers who have been tricked by the Jews to sell their bodies.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 2 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,156
> >I notice that you ignored... > I don't read any of your posts. You're below me and this is the last time I reply to you.
> I don't read any of your posts because you make great points that disarm everything I say, so this is the last time i reply to you.
FTFY, fascist
Anonymous I replied with this 12 years ago, 51 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,157
@466,152 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2) > being this butthurt of a beta
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 9 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,158
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 23 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,159
@466,155 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2) > How do you know nothing like this effects me? Maybe I care about the future of white children.
because it doesn't effect YOU how other people choose to live THEIR lives. What effects YOU is how YOU decide to live YOUR life.
> I'm sorry you only date damaged sex workers who have been tricked by the Jews to sell their bodies.
ad hominem. If this is all you got left you're just further proving my point that you're ignorant and a fascist.
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ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,161
> > I'm sorry you only date damaged sex workers who have been tricked by the Jews to sell their bodies. > ad hominem. If this is all you got left you're just further proving my point that you're ignorant and a fascist.
> ignorant and a fascist. > > ad hominem.
You're not too bright
Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 10 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,162
@466,152 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
So you're not able to say anything to disprove my points? Are you simply too afraid to defend your position in a reasoned debate?
@466,151 (G)
Oh, I randomly put that on to express my like of 3D movies in another thread. But I think I'll stay 3D for a while. I want to be one of those cool namefags who changes their name randomly sometimes.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,163
@466,161 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
the truth isn't an ad hominem. You trying to dictate the lives of other despite their desire to live otherwise makes you a fascist.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,164
@previous (squeegee !first/o5zA)
~So then all social justice warriors who try to dictate the lives of other are fasscists?
Green replied with this 12 years ago, 53 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,165
Anonymous I replied with this 12 years ago, 10 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,166
inb4 meta posts with thinly veiled support for OP
Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 30 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,167
Let it be known that ShitArse is either too afraid or too ignorant to defend his claims in a debate. It seems that even a small amount of evidence contrary to his views is enough to make him go quiet and ignore said counter-points.
Really, I think this says a lot about how confident he is in his own arguments holding up under scrutiny.
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squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,168
@466,164 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
pretty much anyone who would tell other people how to live, despite it not effecting their own lives, is a fascist. yes.
squeegee !first/o5zA double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,169
@466,167 (Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx)
tha'ts because it's all, "hurr, durr, people do things i don't like and they'd better change because i say so," and that's not something that's really at all defensible.
Anonymous I replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,173
@466,168 (squeegee !first/o5zA)
inb4 this is turned around at you like a playground argument
Squeegee is arguing that holding the beliefs and advocating for others to behave in specific manners is largely wrong. It is especially wrong when used to oppress people. Conversely, he is defending living your life through behaviors that do not adversely affect others.
inb4 buttmad arguments about others' behaviors negatively affecting society because they do not uphold social order in a conservative manner
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 4 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,174
For 1000s of years people have been trying to dictate how others lives their lives be it through religion, political ideals or other means. You're just jumping up and down yelling "fascist" at anyone who has different views and that makes you rather silly.
Anonymous I replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,175
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2) > being this autistic
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,177
@466,174 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
no, i'm calling you a fascist for thinking you have the right to decide how other people should live their lives. You fucking fascist.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,179
@466,168 (squeegee !first/o5zA)
The point I'm trying to make with this thread is a 5 year old can't and shouldn't decide if it wants to go through with a gender change. There is too much posability that the childs decision is in someway effected by outside influence.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,180
fas·cism
noun \ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\
: a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government
: very harsh control or authority
Full Definition of FASCISM
1
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>
this is what you are advocating, dumb ass.
squeegee !first/o5zA double-posted this 12 years ago, 56 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,182
@466,179 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one and yours stinks too
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ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 36 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,184
> no, i'm calling you a fascist for thinking you have the right to decide how other people should live their lives. You fucking fascist.
I have the right to debate it which is what I'm doing. It's called freedom of speech. I am not the leader of New Zealand and I have not told the family what they should be doing. It's you who's acting like a child... You hate that I have a view which is different to yours and you hate that I'm talking about it so much that you are having a meltdown.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,187
> fas·cism > noun \ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\ > > : a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government > > : very harsh control or authority > Full Definition of FASCISM > 1 > often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition > 2 > : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge> > > > this is what you are advocating, dumb ass.
But Russia has banned gay propaganda around children. Russia is not a fascist state.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 12 years ago, 5 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,188
@466,167 (Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx)
Do you challenge him to provide legal proof RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW?
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 27 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,189
@466,184 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
sure, even national socialist are allowed to speak their minds. doesn't make them right or make their views in any way valid.
Anonymous I replied with this 12 years ago, 36 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,190
> Great idea, let's all emulate the russians. their society is perfect. > well... when you ask their government at least.
Now you're over reacting. I never said Russia was perfect. I simply pointed out that Russia is not a fascist state and they would have not alloud this. Maybe you shouldn't go around calling people fascist because it makes you look like a goon.
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ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,203
> no man you can't debate for shit > you ignore people, insult them, and assert that you are correct > that isn't debate
That is how I'm treated here.
Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,205
@466,188 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Yes! But sadly it seems he's unwilling to actually debate his position.
Buspuppie was more fun than you, ShitArse. :(
@466,179 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
Okay, now this is a bit more reasonable, as opposed to your earlier assertions that this was some sort of deliberate conditioning upon the child.
But still, my earlier points stand. I'm of the outlook that this most likely has biological cause rather than an environmental one. But, of course, we can't rule out that it is the child simply "acting out" or being "confused", or some such. However, while I might be able to see a case for waiting a bit longer, just to be certain, a qualified psychologist saying that it's a legit case, assuming they've properly analysed the child, shouldn't be taken lightly either.
@466,184 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2) > I have the right to debate
Then use it!
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,207
@previous (Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx)
Buspuppie needs some kind of lifetime achievement award for breaking mountainman. She is the most tenacious ever.
dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,209
@466,203 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
not really
i didn't see killer lettuce ignore and insult you
nobody's constantly saying that you have a 'low iq'
squeegee spends time on his responses instead of copy pasting dictionary definitions and when he says something sharp you call him a hypocrite for using one of your ad hominems when he only called you ignorant, which is truth
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,211
Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 49 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,218
But, now that I think, I reckon there's also a case to be made for this sort of thing being done earlier rather than later. For an older kid, this would be a big adjustment to make, and would probably lead to a lot of alienation for the kid. If it's done young, the kid may be able to adapt to it better. Not saying this is necessarily true, but I can see an argument for it.
Eh, that came out less clear than I thought it would, but I think I got my point across. It's an interesting question regardless.
@466,207 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Yes! I remember that thread. The mighty mountainman, previously thought to be incapable of backing down, was actually driven into silence by Buspuppie. From what I recall, he actually was not quite the same after that thread.
Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx double-posted this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,219
@466,211 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
lol. That sounds like something you'd see on Conservapedia.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,221
@466,218 (Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx)
I wouldnt be surpised if he hung himself after that. It was really his Waterloo...
Anonymous I replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,231
> My partner knew by that age.
I'm sorry that your partner was tricked.
Triptych !IupsXZPnnU replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,253
@466,132 (Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx)
Pre-puberty, what they do is give you hormone blockers which just delay its onset. They don't give you hormones until later.
@previous (Triptych !IupsXZPnnU)
Ah, that sounds reasonable.
Triptych !IupsXZPnnU replied with this 12 years ago, 54 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,259
@previous (Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx)
Nothing permanent is happening to the kid.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 12 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,260
Instead of treating the mental illness, we'd rather just give them hormones and cut off their penises. It will be looked back like how we look back on lobotomies today.
dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,263
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
fuck you walter
How would you like to be 'treated' for wanting to fuck trans women?
shut the fuck up you piece of shit
I hate you i really do you are scum
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,267
i knew i liked girls way before puberty. sure i pulled their hair and called them names, but i was 7. I also thought they were very pretty and i wanted to be friends with all of them and look at their naked bodies. Kids sexuality is pretty apparent to themselves even before they know what to do about it.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,276
> Instead of treating the mental illness, we'd rather just give them hormones and cut off their penises. It will be looked back like how we look back on lobotomies today.
This is correct.
It's also worth remembering that the mother of the child is mentally ill
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 12 years ago, 28 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,281
@466,260 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
But without the "mental illness" of being transgender, you wouldn't have shemales to admire.
You know they're just pre-op transwomen, right?
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Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,283
@466,259 (Triptych !IupsXZPnnU)
As I said, sounds like a reasonable approach to it.
@466,260 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
It's no more a "mental illness" then homosexuality, IMO. Besides, I thought you loved dick girls? I would've thought that you'd be a strong supporter of transexuals.
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dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 34 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,285
@466,279 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
So is my mother and so am I. I'm not trans and i can't fucking fathom a mother coercing a child into a gender role. That doesn't happen, dude
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 41 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,287
> i knew i liked girls way before puberty. sure i pulled their hair and called them names, but i was 7. I also thought they were very pretty and i wanted to be friends with all of them and look at their naked bodies. Kids sexuality is pretty apparent to themselves even before they know what to do about it.
I know a guy who also liked girls. He then came out as gay in his mid 20's. He told me he started to feel unsure in his late teens. Point is people can change and using an anecdote as evedence is weak
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,291
@466,285 (dw ltd) > i can't fucking fathom a mother coercing a child into a gender role. That doesn't happen, dude
I can't fathom a father rapeing his daughter or a mother selling her child to traffickers but it happens.
dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,296
@466,287 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
I know tons of dudes who come out after high school and even try to date girls. But that's completely irrelevant as your point has very little to do with orientation. And wait... Didn't you just use an anecdote? Yeah?
Dysphoria isn't just attraction.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 9 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,298
@466,287 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2) > Point is people can change and using an anecdote as evedence is weak
you misspelled evidence
squeegee !first/o5zA double-posted this 12 years ago, 34 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,299
> >i can't fucking fathom a mother coercing a child into a gender role. That doesn't happen, dude > I can't fathom a father rapeing his daughter or a mother selling her child to traffickers but it happens.
you misspelled raping
dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,303
@466,291 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
If someone tried to force you to be the opposite gender it probably wouldn't work, is what I'm saying. Anybody can be a victim of those kinds of things, but this isn't a rape, and it's highly unlikely. Rapes happen. Trafficking happens. What you postulate happened here simply doesn't happen
dw ltd double-posted this 12 years ago, 44 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,304
@466,299 (squeegee !first/o5zA)
He misspells a lot of stuff in funny ways
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,313
@previous (dw ltd) @466,299 (squeegee !first/o5zA)
He wouldn't have lasted long on AnonTalk.
dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 53 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,316
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,319
@previous (dw ltd)
Maybe that's how he got the ShitArse name? From being shitlisted so much?
Triptych !IupsXZPnnU replied with this 12 years ago, 33 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,360
So in one thread you're saying that it isn't possible to force someone into a gender role and in another you're saying a kid is being forced into a gender role?
Triptych !IupsXZPnnU double-posted this 12 years ago, 18 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,361
@466,281 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Walter seems to like to reduce people to their sexual value to him.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,362
@466,360 (Triptych !IupsXZPnnU)
I'm saying this kid has been brainwashed into swapping gender by his sick mother and is going to have an adult life filled with pain.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 49 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,363
Triptych !IupsXZPnnU replied with this 12 years ago, 14 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,364
@466,362 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
But in another thread you were saying that it's impossible to force someone to swap genders.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,365
@previous (Triptych !IupsXZPnnU)
Yes, someone tried and it ended in suicide.
dw se awd llc arr joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,369
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
so you are saying that the only way to prove that you are right is to wait until this child grows up and kills himself?
something is amiss
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,372
@466,365 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
so then don't you think that all the gay and transgendered who don't kill themselves from "forced gender swapping and brainwashing" proves that it's not forced on them or that they're not brainwashed into it despite it being, in your view, impossible?
squeegee !first/o5zA double-posted this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,374
i mean if it's impossible to force a person into a specific gender role then don't all the gay and transsexual people prove it's their own choice (or their biological nature) how to live their lives?
Green replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,377
This is what I think of your gay propaganda.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 18 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,397
@466,372 (squeegee !first/o5zA)
Not everyone will kill themselfs, obviously. But the suicide rate amoung those who have been tricked into swapping gender or denying their gender is rather high.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 44 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,400
@466,377 (Green)
If you feel the need to shove a pencil up your arse to make a point in this thread then I urge you to seek help asap.
dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,402
Do you have a statistic on transpeople who have been somehow tricked into believing they are the opposite gender and subsequently killing themselves for that reason?
no? Oh, okay
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,403
@466,397 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
ugh... citation? christ... this is fucking ridiculous
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ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,404
@466,402 (dw ltd)
There are statistics out there to prove my point and I've seen them although don't have them at hand but at this point we are just casually debating since I've been the only one to provide links/source.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,405
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
what was it you said about anecdotes?
squeegee !first/o5zA double-posted this 12 years ago, 53 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,407
@466,404 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
dude you provided the links the the source material for this discussion, you've not provided any sources to back up your claims. Do you not see the distinction?
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ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 57 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,408
I'm not going to be the only one providing links. Maybe if you and other minichanners were more rational and didn't flip out by calling me a bunch of buzzwords I would take the time to give you what you wanted.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,409
> > what was it you said about anecdotes? > > I'm not going to be the only one providing links. Maybe if you and other minichanners were more rational and didn't flip out by calling me a bunch of buzzwords I would take the time to give you what you wanted.
i doubt it, you seem very intellectually lazy
Green replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,410
@466,400 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
I will shove a pen up my ass. Who has pencils but hipsters these days?
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,412
@previous (Green)
How meny pens do you have? If you really want to make a point you should shove at least 3 up there right now.
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,413
> > > what was it you said about anecdotes? > > > > I'm not going to be the only one providing links. Maybe if you and other minichanners were more rational and didn't flip out by calling me a bunch of buzzwords I would take the time to give you what you wanted. > > i doubt it, you seem very intellectually lazy
That's rich coming from someone who entered my thread yelling " fascist" "Child" and totally over reacting by claiming I was telling people what to do when in fact I was exercising my right to free speech.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,414
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
but you are a child and you are a fascist. What did i do wrong?
dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 2 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,415
@466,408 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
None of the links back up any of the bullshit you spout. You post them as talking points.
@466,404 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
Okay, so you're bullshitting us. You don't have and have never seen a statistic for that, and if you did, and if you BELIEVED IT, then you are fucking retarded. There is no way that that statistic would be accurate.
and this is a casual debate when you can't find source material, but it's serious fucking business that you post articles? you're just saying less and less
give up
dw ltd double-posted this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,416
@466,413 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
yeah dude how old are you? prove you aren't an ignorant child who wants to lord his backwards views over people instead of simply turning the tables and shouting 'free speech'
dw ltd triple-posted this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,420
@466,408 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
Also, are these links to reputable studies? Scholarly articles? No, you post shit links to shit media sites.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,459
@466,263 (dw ltd) > fuck you walter > How would you like to be 'treated' for wanting to fuck trans women? > shut the fuck up you piece of shit > I hate you i really do you are scum
They are literally mentally ill, otherwise they wouldn't be so troubled by their body as to want to take hormones and carve fake vaginas into their groins. From the sound of your post, you're probably mentally ill yourself. Seek help, before you go out and attack a "cisperson". @466,281 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw) @466,283 (Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx)
Yes, I fap to shemales. But it's kind of like hotdogs. I like hotdogs, but the way they are made just troubles me.
dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,467
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
i am a cis person
You jut don't have the integrity to not eat hot dogs
you also lack the moral fiber to acknowledge that people are not fucking hot dogs
nobody lobotomizes themselves you imbecile
Green replied with this 12 years ago, 36 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,468
@466,412 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
3 pens up my arse, sergeant.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,472
@466,467 (dw ltd) > you also lack the moral fiber to acknowledge that people are not fucking hot dogs
WAA HA HA HA HA HA HA, AHHHHHH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,474
@466,468 (Green)
Oh Green. I know that I should be shocked by this, but you've just done so much crazy shit at this point.
Green replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,475
@previous (Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx)
I'm not crazy. Everyone else is.
Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 4 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,476
@466,412 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2) @466,468 (Green)
It looks like the ball is in your court, ShitArse!
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 9 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,484
@466,468 (Green)
3 pens is nothing. Go to 5 and I'll reveal some personal info about myself.
dw ltd replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,485
@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
So you're only responding to pens in asses now? :')
Ash !bbKEtchUp. joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 6 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,494
The world isn't all about sex now come on people
Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,497
@previous (Ash !bbKEtchUp.)
How have you been, Ashlog? Are you still a chef?
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,502
@previous (Killer Lettuce 3D !!iNo3FkiZx)
A chef? Wait... Is this the guy who complains about British food? Oh hahahah oh boy, lets prey he changes career.
Ash !bbKEtchUp. replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,505
lol as if you're still butthurt about this lol lol
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,506
@previous (Ash !bbKEtchUp.)
I'm not butthurt at all or ever. I remember you as you remember me and I found it obsured that someone thinks of British food as its stereotype tells, I figured you knew nothing about food or cooking and let it pass. Turns out you're a chef???? A bad workman blames his tools and all that.
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,507
> I'm not butthurt at all or ever. I remember you as you remember me and I found it obsured that someone thinks of British food as its stereotype tells, I figured you knew nothing about food or cooking and let it pass. Turns out you're a chef???? A bad workman blames his tools and all that.
you misspelled absurd
Ash !bbKEtchUp. replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#466,508