Topic: Unforgiven: Man is ostracized by NFL because he was convicted of incest as a youth
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w started this discussion 15 years ago #3,352
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5497517
This is really sad.
This is really sad.
Deckard Cain !xhERPesk0k joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 15 minutes later[^] [v] #60,670
Well he fucked his sister, I'm not suprised he's hitting roadblocks. That's what you get.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #60,671
jump !VIfloDyEYo joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #60,672
good thing we have cops to protect us from this villainous scum
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 19 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #60,682
@previous (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
Yeah... I have very little sympathy for adult sex offenders, but surely there should be some more leniency for a kid.
Yeah... I have very little sympathy for adult sex offenders, but surely there should be some more leniency for a kid.
Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 21 minutes later, 59 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #60,686
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cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #60,695
@previous (The Owl !yshAAUvyds)
In the U.S., it depends. 16-year-olds can be tried as adults, but don't have to be.
In the U.S., it depends. 16-year-olds can be tried as adults, but don't have to be.
The Owl !yshAAUvyds replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #60,698
@previous (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
I'm halfway through that article. That sucks how people have to do that stuff.
I'm halfway through that article. That sucks how people have to do that stuff.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #60,701
The Owl !yshAAUvyds replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #60,702
@previous (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
> You can find his picture online, a simple head shot; he is dressed in a black jacket, eyes low, resigned. He takes a new photo every year. It's a requirement, one of the easier ones to endure. The registry lists his address and provides a map to it. His height, weight, skin color, shoe size, employer and photos from previous years are all there too. The charge is at the bottom: prohibited sexual conduct.
> He had to avoid playgrounds and churches. He could not move or travel without permission, granted at the discretion of a local officer. More immediately, he had to inform his neighbors of his crime: "I was required to put out fliers to a five-mile radius around my house. It was my name, my picture, what I was charged with. Incest."
> "I get it," Washington says. "It isn't just about sports. It is politics and money. Why would they take on a sex offender? I wouldn't."
> You can find his picture online, a simple head shot; he is dressed in a black jacket, eyes low, resigned. He takes a new photo every year. It's a requirement, one of the easier ones to endure. The registry lists his address and provides a map to it. His height, weight, skin color, shoe size, employer and photos from previous years are all there too. The charge is at the bottom: prohibited sexual conduct.
> He had to avoid playgrounds and churches. He could not move or travel without permission, granted at the discretion of a local officer. More immediately, he had to inform his neighbors of his crime: "I was required to put out fliers to a five-mile radius around my house. It was my name, my picture, what I was charged with. Incest."
> "I get it," Washington says. "It isn't just about sports. It is politics and money. Why would they take on a sex offender? I wouldn't."
Deckard Cain !xhERPesk0k replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #60,705
@60,671 (C)
> People make mistakes, he was only 16.
I am aware of this and I agree with you. It still doesn't change the fact that he's going to hit roadblocks because of it and that's just how it is. You fuck your sister and society suddenly shuns you, it's weird like that.
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> "I was required to put out fliers to a five-mile radius around my house. It was my name, my picture, what I was charged with. Incest."
Shit like that for this type of crime is ridiculous. Those fliers are for no other purpose than to embarrass an already defeated man. If they were really for some sort of "public safety" reason then they wouldn't make HIM hand them out. Also, was his sister charged? It wasn't rape... it is bullshit that only the man gets charged.
> People make mistakes, he was only 16.
I am aware of this and I agree with you. It still doesn't change the fact that he's going to hit roadblocks because of it and that's just how it is. You fuck your sister and society suddenly shuns you, it's weird like that.
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> "I was required to put out fliers to a five-mile radius around my house. It was my name, my picture, what I was charged with. Incest."
Shit like that for this type of crime is ridiculous. Those fliers are for no other purpose than to embarrass an already defeated man. If they were really for some sort of "public safety" reason then they wouldn't make HIM hand them out. Also, was his sister charged? It wasn't rape... it is bullshit that only the man gets charged.
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Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #60,711
The Owl !yshAAUvyds replied with this 15 years ago, 38 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,713
@60,705 (Deckard Cain !xhERPesk0k)
> Also, was his sister charged?
The police told her that if she did what they told her to do then they could all go home, and so manipulated her into saying that she was held down during the sex.
> Also, was his sister charged?
The police told her that if she did what they told her to do then they could all go home, and so manipulated her into saying that she was held down during the sex.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,718
@60,702 (The Owl !yshAAUvyds)
Oh, gotcha. But tbh, I have no problem at all with these requirements for a truly dangerous sex offender.
Oh, gotcha. But tbh, I have no problem at all with these requirements for a truly dangerous sex offender.
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,721
@previous (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
They should have these same requirements for murderers, but they don't. Why is that?
They should have these same requirements for murderers, but they don't. Why is that?
Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,727
Ok some black guy fucks his sister and cannot get into the NFL??? You know there are plenty of other people who never got into the NFL and they didn't fuck their sisters.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,728
@60,721 (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
IIRC, murder has the lowest recidivism of any crime. Registration is meant to prevent a repeat of the behaviour, not to punish.
IIRC, murder has the lowest recidivism of any crime. Registration is meant to prevent a repeat of the behaviour, not to punish.
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,729
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inb4 Mindwurms
Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,743
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protip !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 19 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,747
Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 15 years ago, 36 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,749
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,753
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,756
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,759
@60,753 (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
I agree about being shocked that people think incest should be decriminalized.
I agree about being shocked that people think incest should be decriminalized.
wowaname !LSD69pSotU joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,761
Being shunned for incest is stupid, honestly.
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,767
@60,759 (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
Consensual incest between siblings of similar age is a victimless crime. The "yuck factor" obviously isn't reason enough for the state to interfere, and the risk to offspring can be mitigated with birth control or abortion (if the relationship is even heterosexual). And if inbreeding should be illegal, it would only make sense to ban older women or people with genetic disorders from having children.
Consensual incest between siblings of similar age is a victimless crime. The "yuck factor" obviously isn't reason enough for the state to interfere, and the risk to offspring can be mitigated with birth control or abortion (if the relationship is even heterosexual). And if inbreeding should be illegal, it would only make sense to ban older women or people with genetic disorders from having children.
The Owl !yshAAUvyds replied with this 15 years ago, 33 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,786
@previous (J)
> it would only make sense to ban...people with genetic disorders from having children.
We should be doing that anyway.
> it would only make sense to ban...people with genetic disorders from having children.
We should be doing that anyway.
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,788
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,789
@60,767 (J)
It shouldn't be allowed. It can cause problems within the family and is very easy to exploit. Now, I don't think that this young boy should have been punished, but adults should be.
It shouldn't be allowed. It can cause problems within the family and is very easy to exploit. Now, I don't think that this young boy should have been punished, but adults should be.
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,794
@60,788 (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
@60,786 (The Owl !yshAAUvyds)
Okay. Should we forcibly sterilize the genetically unfit? Should we make abortions compulsory? Should we imprison parents after they've given birth?
@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
A lot of legal adult relationships can "cause problems within the family". That's not the government's business.
@60,786 (The Owl !yshAAUvyds)
Okay. Should we forcibly sterilize the genetically unfit? Should we make abortions compulsory? Should we imprison parents after they've given birth?
@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
A lot of legal adult relationships can "cause problems within the family". That's not the government's business.
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totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 14 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,810
@previous (J)
I believe that people with genetic disabilities should be paid a stipend by the government, every month that they don't breed.
I believe that people with genetic disabilities should be paid a stipend by the government, every month that they don't breed.
The Owl !yshAAUvyds replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,821
@60,794 (J)
> Should we forcibly sterilize the genetically unfit?
Yes, along with anybody who shares more than 50% of their genes.
> Should we forcibly sterilize the genetically unfit?
Yes, along with anybody who shares more than 50% of their genes.
Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,830
@60,794 (J)
> Okay. Should we forcibly sterilize the genetically unfit? Should we make abortions compulsory? Should we imprison parents after they've given birth?
Some of the smartest things I have ever read on MC.
> Okay. Should we forcibly sterilize the genetically unfit? Should we make abortions compulsory? Should we imprison parents after they've given birth?
Some of the smartest things I have ever read on MC.
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,833
@60,810 (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
I doubt that monetary interests would outweigh the drive to reproduce in any stable society. If someone has already decided that having a defective child is more important than the financial and emotional costs associated with raising one, a $200 monthly bribe won't change their mind.
I doubt that monetary interests would outweigh the drive to reproduce in any stable society. If someone has already decided that having a defective child is more important than the financial and emotional costs associated with raising one, a $200 monthly bribe won't change their mind.
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Homestar !RUNNERV7vk joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #60,990
This kinda thing pisses me off so much.