Topic: Man. I feel like there is a feminists conspiracy going on.
Anonymous A started this discussion 12 years ago #33,423
A conspiracy may be the wrong word. What i mean is that in much of the western world there is this idea that women are oppressed and the way to oppose this is to oppress the men. This creates a hellish condition where men and boys are not only oppressed by the existing powers but oppressed by women in general as some kind of a sick twisted way to oppose the established powers.
In my country a sort of a new movement is beginning to happen. A movement that identifies itself as an ideology. In this ideology is the world view that little girls are brought up to have no
influence in society while little boys are brought up to have influence in society. I feel that there is no reason for one to NOT be worried about this organization that calls itself a school or
a kindergarten.
In the far left upper corner you will see a info about their philosophy and ideology http://www.hjalli.is/information/
I wish to see your own opinions about this school after you have read their ideology.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 14 minutes later[^] [v] #462,640
I'm hoping that their idea of a genderless educational system means teaching EVERYONE home economics and various STEM courses, and not an indoctrination center that forces its students to use retarded new pronouns and to crossdress.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 years ago, 9 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #462,642
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
They are mostly recognized for one thing, sex segregation.
In their ideology they explain the reason behind this being that it benefits everyone. They say that according to studies, boys steal attention of teachers away from girls and that at the same time this
extra attention is bad for the boys because its often negative attention.
In the above they make 2 mistakes. They assume that the solution to this is to segregate them. However even though it might be beneficial to the girls, there is still a issue about the negative attention to the boys. Then they of course, blame the boys for the negative attention and forget how unfair and equal it is when one considers that most of the teachers are in fact female.
They are mostly recognized for one thing, sex segregation.
In their ideology they explain the reason behind this being that it benefits everyone. They say that according to studies, boys steal attention of teachers away from girls and that at the same time this
extra attention is bad for the boys because its often negative attention.
In the above they make 2 mistakes. They assume that the solution to this is to segregate them. However even though it might be beneficial to the girls, there is still a issue about the negative attention to the boys. Then they of course, blame the boys for the negative attention and forget how unfair and equal it is when one considers that most of the teachers are in fact female.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #462,643
@previous (A)
So they separate the boys from the girls, but make it so that the boys have female teachers anyway?
So they separate the boys from the girls, but make it so that the boys have female teachers anyway?
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #462,644
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #462,645
Does anyone else think that OP is Leonidas? I think that OP could be Leonidas.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 16 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #462,646
@previous (D)
Its not true though. I have never gone by the name of Leonidas or any name in this chan for the matter.
My suspicion of this ideology being bad for the boys is justified. You see a year ago i read their website and after a lot of questioning of their ideology they removed some parts. One of the parts
included a second reason why it was good to keep the boys separated. It was a reason that revealed their true outlook on little boys. The extra reason was that according to them, little boys are unafraid of using their fists to gain some sort of gender domination on the playground. That was their actual words. It took me a ridiculous amount of time to change this view of theirs.
Its not true though. I have never gone by the name of Leonidas or any name in this chan for the matter.
My suspicion of this ideology being bad for the boys is justified. You see a year ago i read their website and after a lot of questioning of their ideology they removed some parts. One of the parts
included a second reason why it was good to keep the boys separated. It was a reason that revealed their true outlook on little boys. The extra reason was that according to them, little boys are unafraid of using their fists to gain some sort of gender domination on the playground. That was their actual words. It took me a ridiculous amount of time to change this view of theirs.
squeegee !first/o5zA joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 28 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #462,647
@462,645 (D)
yeah, usually it's leonidas that obsesses over things he has no control over nor will affect him in any way whatsoever. He thinks he's some kind of defender of righteous indignation or something. Unless OP has a child at this school i cannot fathom why OP would care how they operate nor why he would contact them in an attempt to change their views.
mind your own business, OP. nobody likes a busy-body
yeah, usually it's leonidas that obsesses over things he has no control over nor will affect him in any way whatsoever. He thinks he's some kind of defender of righteous indignation or something. Unless OP has a child at this school i cannot fathom why OP would care how they operate nor why he would contact them in an attempt to change their views.
mind your own business, OP. nobody likes a busy-body
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 19 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #462,649
@previous (squeegee !first/o5zA)
So who was this leonidas? Also you may benefit from realizing you are doing the exact same thing as you are criticizing me for doing. I shall have a family one day. I can only count on everyone to do
their best for the environment to be fitting for their future families. If we work together with out even knowing each other yet having the same realization, we have a chance of really creating something that matters.
So who was this leonidas? Also you may benefit from realizing you are doing the exact same thing as you are criticizing me for doing. I shall have a family one day. I can only count on everyone to do
their best for the environment to be fitting for their future families. If we work together with out even knowing each other yet having the same realization, we have a chance of really creating something that matters.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #462,650
@462,647 (squeegee !first/o5zA)
> screeching liberal telling people to mind their business while reaching into the pockets of white men and seeking to destroy the white race
> screeching liberal telling people to mind their business while reaching into the pockets of white men and seeking to destroy the white race
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #462,651
@462,649 (G)
> So who was this leonidas?
shut up leonidas. your children would go to a special school anyway. stop worrying about what normies do.
> So who was this leonidas?
shut up leonidas. your children would go to a special school anyway. stop worrying about what normies do.
squeegee !first/o5zA double-posted this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #462,652
@462,650 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
said the child of a union worker to a well-off southern white man. go emancipate more negros you snow-loving yankee, you haven't completely fucked up michigan yet.
said the child of a union worker to a well-off southern white man. go emancipate more negros you snow-loving yankee, you haven't completely fucked up michigan yet.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #462,653
@462,651 (squeegee !first/o5zA)
They may not go to the same school but they might as well be surrounded by the consequences of a unjust society. Now i repeat. Who is this feaking leonidas and why on earth do you seem to be
so obsessed by him?
They may not go to the same school but they might as well be surrounded by the consequences of a unjust society. Now i repeat. Who is this feaking leonidas and why on earth do you seem to be
so obsessed by him?
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 33 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #462,656
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #462,657
@462,653 (H)> Who is this feaking leonidas and why on earth do you seem to be so obsessed by him?
i don't know, projection, you narcissistic fairy?
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #462,658
@previous (squeegee !first/o5zA)What kind of mind games are you playing? Because whatever it is, your good. Except i still don't understand what is going on here.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #462,662
i can't stand you fucking neurotic assholes
Serious joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 18 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #462,666
@OP
> where men and boys are not only oppressed by the existing powers but oppressed by women in general
If you seriously feel this way, then you are way too beta for most men to even notice. Have fun playing the "Oh I'm so oppressed!" game with feminists and transvestites, douche.
Man up and deal with it, nerd.
> where men and boys are not only oppressed by the existing powers but oppressed by women in general
If you seriously feel this way, then you are way too beta for most men to even notice. Have fun playing the "Oh I'm so oppressed!" game with feminists and transvestites, douche.
Man up and deal with it, nerd.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 12 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #462,668
Totally serious, bra. replied with this 12 years ago, 22 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #462,669
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
If you feel threatened by women or some shit... Well, I guess you're a fuckin' douche. Seriously, man the fuck up and stop fucking whining about stupid crap that only sissy shit panty-wastes bitch about. Why the fuck am I talking to some stupid feel-good playground-losers anyway? Get a fucking life.
If you feel threatened by women or some shit... Well, I guess you're a fuckin' douche. Seriously, man the fuck up and stop fucking whining about stupid crap that only sissy shit panty-wastes bitch about. Why the fuck am I talking to some stupid feel-good playground-losers anyway? Get a fucking life.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 7 hours later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #462,694
@previous (Totally serious, bra.)
You are so stupid man, like really i can't believe this. If you are the kind of person who is fine with your wife being able to get full custody of your children and forbid them to see you ever again, which women can do in my country, then you are incredibly stupid and don't deserve to have children ever. It would contaminate the earth.
You are so stupid man, like really i can't believe this. If you are the kind of person who is fine with your wife being able to get full custody of your children and forbid them to see you ever again, which women can do in my country, then you are incredibly stupid and don't deserve to have children ever. It would contaminate the earth.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 23 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #462,696
@462,669 (Totally serious, bra.)
> If you feel threatened by women or some shit... Well, I guess you're a fuckin' douche. Seriously, man the fuck up and stop fucking whining about stupid crap that only sissy shit panty-wastes bitch about. Why the fuck am I talking to some stupid feel-good playground-losers anyway? Get a fucking life.
This, people who talk about being oppressed by women are people who have never had sex so they invent a boogeyman to rally against uH I mean boogeywoman !!!!
> If you feel threatened by women or some shit... Well, I guess you're a fuckin' douche. Seriously, man the fuck up and stop fucking whining about stupid crap that only sissy shit panty-wastes bitch about. Why the fuck am I talking to some stupid feel-good playground-losers anyway? Get a fucking life.
This, people who talk about being oppressed by women are people who have never had sex so they invent a boogeyman to rally against uH I mean boogeywoman !!!!
Anonymous M double-posted this 12 years ago, 15 seconds later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #462,697
Double post
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Anonymous L replied with this 12 years ago, 14 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #462,699
joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 19 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #462,701
@462,696 (M)
> > If you feel threatened by men or some shit... Well, I guess you're a fuckin' bulldyke. Seriously, stop being hysterical and stop fucking whining about stupid crap that only Andrea Dworkin moans about. Why the fuck am I talking to some stupid feel-good playground-losers anyway? Get a fucking life.
>
> This, people who talk about being oppressed by men are people who have never had sex so they invent a boogeyman to rally against.
Hmm...
> > If you feel threatened by men or some shit... Well, I guess you're a fuckin' bulldyke. Seriously, stop being hysterical and stop fucking whining about stupid crap that only Andrea Dworkin moans about. Why the fuck am I talking to some stupid feel-good playground-losers anyway? Get a fucking life.
>
> This, people who talk about being oppressed by men are people who have never had sex so they invent a boogeyman to rally against.
Hmm...
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #462,702
@462,669 (Totally serious, bra.)
There you go pushing traditional gender roles and shaming people for pointing out problems in life.
There you go pushing traditional gender roles and shaming people for pointing out problems in life.
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #462,703
Anonymous J replied with this 12 years ago, 6 hours later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #462,730
@462,702 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
do you hear non-cis-men expressing feelings of oppression by women
shut the fuck up Walter.
do you hear non-cis-men expressing feelings of oppression by women
shut the fuck up Walter.
Anonymous K replied with this 12 years ago, 52 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,733
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,741
@462,730 (J)
I'm just pointing out how you use tactics that you find deplorable when other people use them.
I'm just pointing out how you use tactics that you find deplorable when other people use them.
Anonymous J replied with this 12 years ago, 57 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,746
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
pro-fat is where i draw the line
i will Harris's you for being you as much as i want and you can't call me out on hypocrisy fat ass
pro-fat is where i draw the line
i will Harris's you for being you as much as i want and you can't call me out on hypocrisy fat ass
Anonymous J double-posted this 12 years ago, 34 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,747
lol
harass
Harris's
harass
Harris's
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,754
Anonymous K replied with this 12 years ago, 58 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,756
@462,741 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
> I'm just pointing out how you use tactics that you find deplorable when other people use them.
I'm pretty sure crazy feminists use arguments like that all the time and don't find much problem with them because they actually make sense in context. You, Walter, the scourge of feminist thought, shaming someone for "pushing traditional gender roles" makes absolutely no sense in context. You are trying to use the same rhetorical arguments as the people you are arguing against. EXCEPT YOU ARE ACTUALLY USING THEIR SAME RHETORICAL ARGUMENTS WITHOUT CHANGING A FUCKING THING, THEREBY ARGUING THEIR POSITION. Your're a fuckin-
I give up... I have resisted doing this, but...
> Walter
> opinion
> I'm just pointing out how you use tactics that you find deplorable when other people use them.
I'm pretty sure crazy feminists use arguments like that all the time and don't find much problem with them because they actually make sense in context. You, Walter, the scourge of feminist thought, shaming someone for "pushing traditional gender roles" makes absolutely no sense in context. You are trying to use the same rhetorical arguments as the people you are arguing against. EXCEPT YOU ARE ACTUALLY USING THEIR SAME RHETORICAL ARGUMENTS WITHOUT CHANGING A FUCKING THING, THEREBY ARGUING THEIR POSITION. Your're a fuckin-
I give up... I have resisted doing this, but...
> Walter
> opinion
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Morbid !vbsvhaneDY joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 8 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,767
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,770
> it is not masculine to complain about demasculinization
Is that really the best you got?
Is that really the best you got?
Anonymous J replied with this 12 years ago, 25 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,775
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Social relevancy/political/actual correctness is not the same 'masculinity'. The feelings you describe aren't symptomatic of someone who is lacking masculinity, but of a fucking moron. Get your head on straight. It's not intelligent to complain about... 'demasculinization'. You just made that word up, even. Come on.
Social relevancy/political/actual correctness is not the same 'masculinity'. The feelings you describe aren't symptomatic of someone who is lacking masculinity, but of a fucking moron. Get your head on straight. It's not intelligent to complain about... 'demasculinization'. You just made that word up, even. Come on.
Anonymous J double-posted this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,776
@462,770 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Also, that dude only called you 'beta' and 'nerd' and 'panty-waste', all of which anybody would agree with and most any SJW would even agree that these are not problematic in context.
Also, that dude only called you 'beta' and 'nerd' and 'panty-waste', all of which anybody would agree with and most any SJW would even agree that these are not problematic in context.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,779
Anonymous J replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,783
Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,789
@previous (J)your idea of arguing is acting like a wannabe. You think we should find something better to do but here you are having nothing better to do then tell people on the internet to kill themselves while
thinking you are somekind of smart ass. Seek help idiot. The tears of your soul is showing.
Anonymous J replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,792
Anonymous R replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,798
Anonymous J replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,799
Anonymous R replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,800
@previous (J)
seriously though. That place reeks of something horrible. As i understand it, the founder is a recovering alcoholic who got raped. Nothing discrediting there of course but you would think that maybe
she is more sinister when she talks about how little boys have to be brought up to not be killers.
seriously though. That place reeks of something horrible. As i understand it, the founder is a recovering alcoholic who got raped. Nothing discrediting there of course but you would think that maybe
she is more sinister when she talks about how little boys have to be brought up to not be killers.
Anonymous J replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,801
Anonymous R replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,802
@previous (J)
You know after finding out that leonidas was some hardcore dude in ancient times going around killing people.... then yes i am him. If you mean someone from the past that you knew by that name then no man.
You know after finding out that leonidas was some hardcore dude in ancient times going around killing people.... then yes i am him. If you mean someone from the past that you knew by that name then no man.
Anonymous J replied with this 12 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,805
Meta replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,806
These feminist threads always turn out great.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,807
@previous (Meta)
They always come with an anon of courageous anons to hurl insults at those that do not agree with them.
They always come with an anon of courageous anons to hurl insults at those that do not agree with them.
ninjj !XUTpieWBpk replied with this 12 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,810
!0WfaELhJAM joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,811
I know you love the matriarchy Walter.
Meta replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,812
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,813
@462,810 (ninjj !XUTpieWBpk)
You are a worthless shitposter. How big was salty's favorite strapon anyway?
You are a worthless shitposter. How big was salty's favorite strapon anyway?
ninjj !XUTpieWBpk replied with this 12 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,817
Anonymous S replied with this 12 years ago, 53 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,818
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,820
@462,817 (ninjj !XUTpieWBpk)
You're a nappy-headed midget. Kindly fuck off now.
@previous (S)
You're kind of creepy. Just to let you know.
You're a nappy-headed midget. Kindly fuck off now.
@previous (S)
You're kind of creepy. Just to let you know.
Anonymous S replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,822
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
This is why I don't shave. Bella can possess me if I do. And after taking psychedelics it feels like there is a jihad inside me.
This is why I don't shave. Bella can possess me if I do. And after taking psychedelics it feels like there is a jihad inside me.
Meta replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,823
Anonymous S replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,824
@previous (Meta)
A jihad is an internal spiritual struggle. Bella is a demon. And I can eat lots of ham. Maybe I should say spiritual struggle.
A jihad is an internal spiritual struggle. Bella is a demon. And I can eat lots of ham. Maybe I should say spiritual struggle.
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ninjj !XUTpieWBpk replied with this 12 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,825
Anonymous T joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,841
@previous (ninjj !XUTpieWBpk)Internet karate? or maybe with your abilities he needs internet kung fu?
decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,844
At best, sex segregation can only further entrench the binary. If you want to tear down gender roles, don't assign genders at birth and stop sorting toys and stuff by gender. :v
@462,640 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Oh, sorry about the fact that you're too fucking stuck-up and arrogant to figure out how to use singular "they".
@462,640 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Oh, sorry about the fact that you're too fucking stuck-up and arrogant to figure out how to use singular "they".
Anonymous V joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,851
@previous (decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj)
Well it might do something but you know gender is nor nurtured into us. It is hardwired into us.
Well it might do something but you know gender is nor nurtured into us. It is hardwired into us.
decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj replied with this 12 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,852
@previous (V)
It really isn't. Many of the traits that become part of our gender have some kind of genetic origin -- but gender; as in, the whole package, is constructed.
It really isn't. Many of the traits that become part of our gender have some kind of genetic origin -- but gender; as in, the whole package, is constructed.
Anonymous W joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #462,853
@previous (decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj)
You would expect that then it would be significantly different between countries when it comes to what men and women often ignore in the job sections. But there is not so much difference.
You would expect that then it would be significantly different between countries when it comes to what men and women often ignore in the job sections. But there is not so much difference.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 40 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #462,856
@462,825 (ninjj !XUTpieWBpk)
Did salty peg you until you screamed the name of Leonidas?
@462,844 (decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj)
"They" is a plural. When referring to mentally-ill "genderqueers", the correct pronoun is "it".
And the best thing we can do as a society is eliminate the worthless "girl toys". Perhaps replace dolls with LEGO dollhouse sets instead of prebuilt traditional dollhouses.
Did salty peg you until you screamed the name of Leonidas?
@462,844 (decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj)
"They" is a plural. When referring to mentally-ill "genderqueers", the correct pronoun is "it".
And the best thing we can do as a society is eliminate the worthless "girl toys". Perhaps replace dolls with LEGO dollhouse sets instead of prebuilt traditional dollhouses.
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Anonymous X joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 15 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #462,857
@462,779 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
In the mind of the manlet mangina, men are not people only women are.
In the mind of the manlet mangina, men are not people only women are.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #462,858
Discnigger !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 14 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #462,859
@462,811 (!0WfaELhJAM)
Walter literally couldnt live without feminine penis in his cum-filled throat
Walter literally couldnt live without feminine penis in his cum-filled throat
Meta replied with this 12 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #462,861
@462,856 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
GI Joe is basically a masculine Barbie. What about Easy Bake ovens for boys? Like Batman badass xTreme oven play set?
GI Joe is basically a masculine Barbie. What about Easy Bake ovens for boys? Like Batman badass xTreme oven play set?
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #462,863
@previous (Meta)
Easy Bake Oven is not useless though. It inspires one to learn how to cook. It ought to be a unisex toy. Who the fuck doesn't like to make brownies?
Easy Bake Oven is not useless though. It inspires one to learn how to cook. It ought to be a unisex toy. Who the fuck doesn't like to make brownies?
Meta replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #462,866
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
I really like cooking myself. It should be taught in schools, along with shop class. Everyone must learn how to build things and cook things. Girls and boys both.
I really like cooking myself. It should be taught in schools, along with shop class. Everyone must learn how to build things and cook things. Girls and boys both.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #462,871
@previous (Meta)
Yeah, but that would cut into time for common core classes. Who needs to learn trades and life skills, when we can force everyone to have quasi-liberal arts degrees?
Yeah, but that would cut into time for common core classes. Who needs to learn trades and life skills, when we can force everyone to have quasi-liberal arts degrees?
decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj replied with this 12 years ago, 39 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #462,874
@462,856 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Shut up your prescriptivist shit, dude. "It" is never a pronoun that you assume. You only ever use "it" when someone explicitly requests it. "They" has been used in singular since... Chaucer, I think? Singular "they" is much older than either of us.
Shut up your prescriptivist shit, dude. "It" is never a pronoun that you assume. You only ever use "it" when someone explicitly requests it. "They" has been used in singular since... Chaucer, I think? Singular "they" is much older than either of us.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #462,876
decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj replied with this 12 years ago, 18 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #462,880
Anonymous J replied with this 12 years ago, 13 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #462,883
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 31 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #462,888
@462,880 (decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj)
Is that you, Vocalon?
@previous (J)
If someone is stupid/retarded/ill enough to make me call them a "they", I shall refer to them as an "it", as that is the neuter/other pronoun. I will not allow their mental illness to sully the English language. Now fuck right off you fucking SRS megaphone fucktard.
Is that you, Vocalon?
@previous (J)
If someone is stupid/retarded/ill enough to make me call them a "they", I shall refer to them as an "it", as that is the neuter/other pronoun. I will not allow their mental illness to sully the English language. Now fuck right off you fucking SRS megaphone fucktard.
decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj replied with this 12 years ago, 38 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #462,893
@462,883 (J)
Ironic choice of words there!
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Nope, not Vocalon.
Sit the fuck down, shut the fuck up, and stop pretending to be the arbiter of what is right and wrong in the English language.
(Also, it's gigantically fucking creepy and problematic to pathologise non-binary genders. That's, like, fucking Victorian kind of mental health "science".)
Ironic choice of words there!
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Nope, not Vocalon.
Sit the fuck down, shut the fuck up, and stop pretending to be the arbiter of what is right and wrong in the English language.
(Also, it's gigantically fucking creepy and problematic to pathologise non-binary genders. That's, like, fucking Victorian kind of mental health "science".)
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #462,894
@previous (decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj)Good goyim! Ditch the laws of your language so you can appease a few freaks!
No thanks. I'll call them "it" until it is illegal, and then call them "it" as I fuck them in jail.
decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #462,897
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Language doesn't have fixed, immutable laws, you ignorant prick. How the fuck do you think we went from Proto-Indo-European to English? (Answer: your precious language laws getting fucking bent and shattered as convenient for the speakers of the language.)
Language doesn't have fixed, immutable laws, you ignorant prick. How the fuck do you think we went from Proto-Indo-European to English? (Answer: your precious language laws getting fucking bent and shattered as convenient for the speakers of the language.)
decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj double-posted this 12 years ago, 48 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #462,898
That was too mean, actually. Deleted.
(Edited 25 seconds later.)
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #462,900
Anonymous Z-2 joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 19 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #462,997
@462,897 (decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj)
Yet another proof rule of law is an impossible standard to maintain with morons walking around.
Yet another proof rule of law is an impossible standard to maintain with morons walking around.
Meta replied with this 12 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #463,003
@462,893 (decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj)
But by criticizing Walter's use of the pronoun "it", aren't you also belong prescriptivist? (Not saying you're wrong, just playing devils advocate).
But by criticizing Walter's use of the pronoun "it", aren't you also belong prescriptivist? (Not saying you're wrong, just playing devils advocate).
decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj replied with this 12 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #463,009
@462,997 (Z-2)
What?
@previous (Meta)
Criticising dehumanising use of language is different from attacking harmless or explicitly helpful uses of language, I think. <_<
What?
@previous (Meta)
Criticising dehumanising use of language is different from attacking harmless or explicitly helpful uses of language, I think. <_<
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 12 years ago, 9 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #463,011
@previous (decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj)
You want to refer to a single person with a plural pronoun, while I advocate the use of the neuter pronoun suited for those that are, well, "its".
You want to refer to a single person with a plural pronoun, while I advocate the use of the neuter pronoun suited for those that are, well, "its".
decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj replied with this 12 years ago, 42 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #463,012
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
"They" works just as well as a singular pronoun. There is actually literally zero reason, other than bigotry, to get mad about use of "they" in a singular context - language changes, and singular they is a pretty good change. "It", on the other hand, is absolutely soaking in dehumanising connotations, and should never be used for persons unless they explicitly request it.
"They" works just as well as a singular pronoun. There is actually literally zero reason, other than bigotry, to get mad about use of "they" in a singular context - language changes, and singular they is a pretty good change. "It", on the other hand, is absolutely soaking in dehumanising connotations, and should never be used for persons unless they explicitly request it.
Meta replied with this 12 years ago, 11 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #463,014
@463,009 (decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj)
English needs better gender-neutral pronouns. "It" is dehumanizing. The best course of action (now I'm being prescriptivist) is to just use whatever pronoun the trans person wants or appears to be aiming for.
But then again not everyone wants to be shoehorned into a his/her binary. For someone who didn't identify as male or female, "they/their" would have to do until someone makes a better gender neutral pronoun.
English needs better gender-neutral pronouns. "It" is dehumanizing. The best course of action (now I'm being prescriptivist) is to just use whatever pronoun the trans person wants or appears to be aiming for.
But then again not everyone wants to be shoehorned into a his/her binary. For someone who didn't identify as male or female, "they/their" would have to do until someone makes a better gender neutral pronoun.
(Edited 5 minutes later.)
TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 4 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #463,029
@463,012 (decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj)
"They" to refer to single entities has actually been around since the 15th century, iirc.
"They" to refer to single entities has actually been around since the 15th century, iirc.
(Edited 49 seconds later.)
decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj replied with this 12 years ago, 18 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #463,119
@463,014 (Meta)
As far as I understand, it's like this:
- if someone's presentation is fairly clearly one binary gender or the other, use the pronouns corresponding to said binary presentation. You might get corrected!
- if someone's presentation isn't clearly either binary gender, ask what their pronouns are.
- if you have no way of determining what someone's presentation is or what their gender might be, assume "they". You might get corrected!
As far as I understand, it's like this:
- if someone's presentation is fairly clearly one binary gender or the other, use the pronouns corresponding to said binary presentation. You might get corrected!
- if someone's presentation isn't clearly either binary gender, ask what their pronouns are.
- if you have no way of determining what someone's presentation is or what their gender might be, assume "they". You might get corrected!
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 12 years ago, 4 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #463,128
@previous (decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj)
why not just use "y'all" and be done with gendered pronouns?
why not just use "y'all" and be done with gendered pronouns?
Anonymous Z-4 joined in and replied with this 12 years ago, 3 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #463,137
@previous (squeegee !first/o5zA)
> walk into room with one person
> shout "HOWDY, Y'ALL! How're Y'all doing?"
> walk into room with one person
> shout "HOWDY, Y'ALL! How're Y'all doing?"
h !utWEud8dUs replied with this 12 years ago, 56 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #463,138
decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj replied with this 12 years ago, 5 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #463,164
@463,128 (squeegee !first/o5zA)
I, me, mine, myself. They, their, themsel(f/ves). You, yours, yourself. Y'all, y'all's, y'all'self.
I, me, mine, myself. They, their, themsel(f/ves). You, yours, yourself. Y'all, y'all's, y'all'self.