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Topic: Who was a better troll: L. Ron Hubbard or Joseph Smith?

Anonymous A started this discussion 15 years ago #3,255

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totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 44 seconds later[^] [v] #58,870

L. Ron Hubbard, because it happened more recently and the lies are better documented.

Ph !5pM9NZR/l6 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #58,892

@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
And he liked little boys a little too much.

totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #58,900

@previous (Ph !5pM9NZR/l6)
That doesn't make him a better troll, it just makes him disgusting.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #58,904

Consider: Joseph Smith had been trolling for at least 100 years prior, set up a theocracy town in Illinois, started a mass movement which amassed in Utah, was a polygamist of epic proportions, and made into a martyr by his opponents.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #58,919

"troll" isn't a toy bud, grow up and leave.

Protip: Not everyone seemingly batshit insane is "trolling".

totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #58,932

@previous (D)
Neither of them were insane. They didn't believe the shit that they were promoting.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 40 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #58,934

@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
Is that really true for Joe Smith though

totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 4 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #58,935

@58,904 (A)
True, but people were much less educated then and information was not as easily spread as today.

totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW double-posted this 15 years ago, 43 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #58,937

@58,934 (E)
Yes. He lied about many things, such as his affair with Fanny Alger.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 25 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #58,968

@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)

Not to mention when he got caught cheating, he said it was God's will. Same with the golden plates deal. Also, he had a semi legitimate shot at becoming the President.

totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #58,975

@previous (A)
I freaking love Joseph Smith. He got away with so much. But I think that his various deceptions show that he didn't believe his own lies.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #58,979

@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)

I read that his last words were a possible Masonic distress signal.

totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #58,982

@previous (A)
Ack, don't tell me that! You're going to make me Illuminati kooky again. What were his last words?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #58,991

@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)

"Oh Lord, my God!"

It sounds innocuous enough but some scholars seem to think it has Masonic ties.

totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #58,995

@previous (A)
Why would they think that?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #59,012

@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)

It's believed that it's a common Masonic distress signal by raising your hands and elbows above your head to form a square and yell, "OH LORD, MY GOD, IS THERE NO HELP FOR A WIDOW'S SON?"

Varying accounts of Joseph Smith's death claimed he was doing that and got only the first four words out.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #59,013

@previous (A)
That seems false to me.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #59,015

@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)

Which part?

totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #59,021

@previous (A)
The reasoning. What good would a Masonic distress signal be if he was already shot and falling?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #59,025

@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)

It's far fetched but adds to his mystique. Hoping to get saved from further mob abuse?

totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 31 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #59,026

@previous (A)
That doesn't feel true. Do you believe it?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #59,030

@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)

No. It's interesting but convoluted. I think he was betting on his own militia to save him more than anything else.
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