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Topic: What a stupid law.

Anonymous A started this discussion 15 years ago #3,185

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/outdoors/8318985/Shed-owners-warned-wire-on-windows-could-hurt-burglars.html

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later[^] [v] #57,892

Hurt burglars? What shite. If somebody comes on to my property looking to steal all of my hard-earned possessions, they're fair bloody game I say. If they cut themselves on a window wire, they shouldn't have been there in the bloody first place, it's their one fault for a start.

Basically the government is saying "Burglary is inevitable, so with this we'll help make things as comfortable as possible for the burglar. The poor lamb".

Fuck our law system.

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advi !!3gpAcg/hF joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #57,893

> the state protecting the rights of people who show complete disregard for the authority of the state

lolbritain

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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #57,894

@previous (advi !!3gpAcg/hF)
Oh we've had worse. An old woman was placed under house arrest and electronically tagged because she sold a goldfish to a boy.

Fuck.

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advi !!3gpAcg/hF replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #57,895

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)

The Editor !FuckWtfW8M joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #57,896

@57,894 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
What's wrong with selling goldfish?

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #57,897

@previous (The Editor !FuckWtfW8M)
God knows. I think they said it was because she wasn't a real salesperson or something.

Another one: the Northumbria police sold all of their motorbikes due to health and safety concerns. This country has no common sense, of any kind.

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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #57,898

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> sold all of their motorbikes die to health

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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #57,899

@previous (A)
Hey, thanks for telling me. I really appreciate the help!

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Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 14 minutes later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #57,900

> put up warning sign next to window
> problem solved

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #57,902

@57,899 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Ah, I see. Makes sense now.

The Owl !yshAAUvyds joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #57,948

@57,897 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)

> I think they said it was because she wasn't a real salesperson or something.

Under Animal Welfare laws, it is illegal to sell pets to anybody under the age of 16. Another factor in the decision to place her in house arrest with a curfew is the fact that she caused unnecessary suffering to a cockatiel by failing to provide appropriate care and treatment after council officers noticed the bird in the shop in need of veterinary care with a broken leg. It had to be put down because it was so injured. She was investigated in the first place because they sold a gerbil to another 14 year old, a girl with learning difficulties, without the presence of a parent or guardian.

It's completely irresponsible to sell animals to people who aren't old enough to care for them properly.

Also, OP, learn to fucking read.

> I reinforced my shed windows with wire mesh, but was told by the police I had to be very careful because thieves can actually sue you if they get hurt.
> [I] was told by the police I had to be very careful

Yeah, it's law. Suuuuuure.

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Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #57,960

@previous (The Owl !yshAAUvyds)
Maybe there is no separation of powers where he comes from, hm?
*wink*

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 14 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #57,968

@57,948 (The Owl !yshAAUvyds)
Yes, she's clearly a nefarious criminal. An electronic tag and house arrest is the perfect punishment for a dodgy pet shop owner.

A fine and/or shutting down the shop would have made sense. Tagging + house arrest is just ridiculous given the crime.

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The Owl !yshAAUvyds replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #57,969

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)

> shutting down the shop would have made sense

You shitting me? That's clearly worse than not letting her out of the house before 7AM and after 7PM. She got away with complete disregard for the health of animals pretty lightly, to be honest. I would have put her in prison.

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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #57,971

@previous (The Owl !yshAAUvyds)
Shutting down the shop is appropriate and makes sense, because that's what she used to do the crime. And as you said, she's clearly terrible with animals. Again, tagging her and house arrest were completely innapropriate punishments, considering the crime.

Not sure I'm with you on the prison part, seems a bit far. I'd fine her instead.

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The Owl !yshAAUvyds replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #57,972

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)

It was a family business - it would be punishing her children and her children's children for her infraction.

I'm against fines on principle, they're just a method of revenue gain. She was fined, anyway. Around £1,500 including council legal fees, I believe.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #57,974

@previous (The Owl !yshAAUvyds)
Well in that case, the shop shouldn't be shut down then. But still, you have to wonder if the family knew of/allowed it.

I'm okay with the fine, but still mystified about the house arrest.

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #57,976

@OP I bloodly love you killer lettuce.

psychopath !PSYCHOhc32 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #57,978

@57,972 (The Owl !yshAAUvyds)
> I'm against fines on principle, they're just a method of revenue gain.
If it can help curb crime while increasing state revenue, it is good.

The Owl !yshAAUvyds replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #57,980

@57,974 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)

It's a pretty good method of light punishment imo. She broke the law and has to pay for that, and inconviniencing her in this way is a great method for punishing someone old like that.

Maybe it would be shut down if they infringed again, who knows.

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #57,993

loluk

psychopath !PSYCHOhc32 replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #57,994

US has the worst sex laws in the first world. Did you know that in Michigan, homosexuality, oral and anal sex, and teen sex under age of 16 (even if both are underage) is illegal?

Nexus !jNexusRe/. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #57,996

@previous (psychopath !PSYCHOhc32)
Yes, but if you catch a burglar in your shed, you can pepper their ass.

Fair trade-off id say.

protip !tyLmN8C16E joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #58,001

@57,994 (psychopath !PSYCHOhc32)
The Supreme Court struck down the laws against homosex in ~2004.

Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #58,006

@previous (protip !tyLmN8C16E)
yep

psychopath !PSYCHOhc32 replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #58,015

@58,001 (protip !tyLmN8C16E)
Homosexuality is still banned thanks to anal/oral laws.

protip !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #58,018

@previous (psychopath !PSYCHOhc32)
Except it’s not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas
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