Topic: Anita Sarkeesian used footage from "Let's Play" videos
Anonymous A started this discussion 13 years ago#30,549
Vicsor of Viscor's Opinion reported that Anita Sarkeesian has used clips from Let's Play commentaries in "Tropes vs Women" without providing credit or requesting permission beforehand. While these sources are considered fair use for nonprofit ventures, this finding has raised concerns about Ms. Sarkeesian's journalistic integrity and the veracity of her research. This may also raise legal obstacles should she sell or otherwise monetize her series in the future. Vicsor has also noted discrepancies between the referenced versions of the games in Tropes vs Women and the actual versions recorded in the Let's Play videos.
Anita Sarkeesian is best known as the target of a large and decentralized trolling campaign against her series. She seems to have struck a chord with concerned gamers and feminists alike, accruing $160,000 for the production of her series. Some of her backers have requested she release accounts of her production expenditures, and this discovery is liable to increase this pressure.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 2 seconds later, 8 minutes after the original post[^][v]#438,655
I'm watching Fallout 3 Lets Play right now
Grumpy Cat aka. Tard joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^][v]#438,656
I'm Dreamworks, the copypasta.
Anonymous C replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^][v]#438,657
@438,654 (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)
i don't believe you dw :(
name some things you care about
beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^][v]#438,658
This isn't my area, but I don't get why the monetization is being made such a big deal of. People make money off fair use of copyrighted stuff without permission all the time, lots of critics do it, TV stations, etc. etc. Something doesn't automatically change status when it's nonprofit vs. profit. And Youtube's TOS doesn't change anything about the fair use defense.
Not that I care enough to wade into all this neckbeard shit, but the e-lawyering seems to be strong here.
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Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 9 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^][v]#438,660
@previous (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
Is anyone actually claiming she broke the law? All I've seen is people calling her dishonest for not giving attribution when she used clips from other people's videos.
I'm not following this shit though.
beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao replied with this 13 years ago, 15 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^][v]#438,663
@previous (G)
"This may also raise legal obstacles should she sell or otherwise monetize her series in the future." I didn't read that much of the linked comments but looks like some are calling it theft because of monies. I assumed the fair use was being used as a legal term also.
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Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 44 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#438,678
@previous (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao) > mad as fuck MRAs
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 3 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#438,721
I love how Anita has become so idolized by certain subcultures. Plagiarism? Good. Mentioning plagiarism? Die cis scum, etc. etc.
Anonymous C replied with this 13 years ago, 56 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#438,737
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 49 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#438,768
I'm all for her message, but it wouldn't be so bad if she didn't just tell us the same shit everyone read years ago on tvtropes. The feeling of betrayal is a little weird.
"Whee! I got some money! Now I'm gonna tell you what I read on tvtropes... Yeah, great! I'll just paste up some videos I didn't make while telling you stuff that anyone tuned in would already know... Okay..."
I'm all for her ideas, but FUCK. I knew this! I knew all this because I read all the websites that have previously made these complaints, and I have seen all the "Let's play" videos that you have cobbled together. Could you have Bell Hooks as a guest star or something? As a bonus for fucking giving you money for telling me shit I already knew? Fuck.
beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao replied with this 13 years ago, 4 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#438,808
@previous (L)
Good point, feminists are the only people who repeat messages. I hadn't thought of it in quite that way before!
Anonymous L replied with this 13 years ago, 6 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#438,954
@438,768 (L)
I'm pretty positive my cat typed this while I was out getting a drink. For instance, I know bell hooks doesn't capitalize her name. Not having discussed Reel to Real or From Margin to Center endlessly, my cat obviously wouldn't know that. Looking it over this morning, I'm pretty confident that I couldn't have written this.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 41 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#438,965
@438,768 (L) > oh let me just get bell hooks right on the phone because I know she'd love to be on youtube > hurrrrrrrr
beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao replied with this 13 years ago, 3 hours later, 23 hours after the original post[^][v]#439,045