Topic: If you are not a Christian, you will spend eternity in hell.
Anonymous A started this discussion 13 years ago #30,230
Thanks.
Negi Springfield !aeNZeP7XP2 joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later[^] [v] #436,291
Fucking read a book.
*not the Bible
*not the Bible
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 26 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #436,292
How do I know I'm not already there?
Green !BEERiVqJJw joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #436,293
No such place. Sorry.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #436,294
Green !BEERiVqJJw replied with this 13 years ago, 17 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #436,296
@previous (A)
Prove it. When you die you just cease to exist. Why would anything you do in this mere speck of time warrant an eternity in a a place for eternity? Also, Jesus liked to suck cocks.
Prove it. When you die you just cease to exist. Why would anything you do in this mere speck of time warrant an eternity in a a place for eternity? Also, Jesus liked to suck cocks.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 2 hours later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,321
@previous (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
But green we cannot prove that people should not be pedophiles. Yet its still the truth is it not?
But green we cannot prove that people should not be pedophiles. Yet its still the truth is it not?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,323
> if you don't stop disagreeing with me then my imaginary friend will beat you up!
Green !BEERiVqJJw replied with this 13 years ago, 29 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,325
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,326
@previous (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
Well you wanted someone to prove something, i assume you wanted the proof so that you know if it is true or not? Well that is not the perfect method of finding the truth because with that methood all subjective opinions
are false since they cannot be proven. That goes for all our moral opinions.
Well you wanted someone to prove something, i assume you wanted the proof so that you know if it is true or not? Well that is not the perfect method of finding the truth because with that methood all subjective opinions
are false since they cannot be proven. That goes for all our moral opinions.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 11 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,330
doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,331
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,332
@previous (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)I don't really believe you believe that because you gave no reason. So you just acted like a coward and called it stupid to make yourself feel better. If i am wrong then tell me why i am wrong, otherwise you are just another person
on the internet telling someone they are wrong.
doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,334
Anonymous J replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,335
@previous (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)
If you don't really know why what i said was stupid. Then don't say it is stupid because that is a stupid move.
If you don't really know why what i said was stupid. Then don't say it is stupid because that is a stupid move.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 4 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,366
doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 13 years ago, 50 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,375
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 26 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,386
@previous (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)its not my habit to play children's games and so it feels silly. I mean why should i play the game? you and i both know you have no idea why you even said my post was stupid because you would have explained a long time ago. So its like reading the whole bible because someone said your atheism is wrong and he has proof for it, hands you a bible and tells you to read it and then just walks away.
doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,387
Anonymous K replied with this 13 years ago, 13 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,388
@previous (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)yes i do, why don't we just use the words from that game shall we?
FACT: A fact is a fact because you can show someone that its true
OPINION: An opinion is an opinion because i CANT show somebody that its true.
So you see, if you use the whole method of using evidence to show you what is true or false, all opinions cannot be shown to be true which makes them false. This goes for moral opinions like ''people should not
be pedophiles'' yet everyone would say that it is true that people should not be pedophiles and hopefully you do too.
Do you understand now?
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,429
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,472
@previous (H)
Let me guess, if i say yes i am supposed to just guess how it is relevant and proves me wrong because you don't know and if i say no its too bad because it proves me wrong but you are not going
to tell me why because you don't know?
Maybe i am being over defensive but you won't believe how many childish people i have met on the internet. Anyway i found to many versions of what moral law is and i did not find out what secular law is. So please
explain to me what those things are,how they are relevant and why it challenges the above posts i have made (if they do at all that is).
Let me guess, if i say yes i am supposed to just guess how it is relevant and proves me wrong because you don't know and if i say no its too bad because it proves me wrong but you are not going
to tell me why because you don't know?
Maybe i am being over defensive but you won't believe how many childish people i have met on the internet. Anyway i found to many versions of what moral law is and i did not find out what secular law is. So please
explain to me what those things are,how they are relevant and why it challenges the above posts i have made (if they do at all that is).
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,487
@previous (L)
In a nutshell, moral law is that which is sanctioned by god. Secular law is based on worldly, that is not religious or spiritual laws as mandated by god, but by man.
You claim that it cannot be proven that people should not be pedophiles. By moral law you are correct, because there is no consequence to pedophilia in moral law that can be proven. To my knowledge, no kiddy diddler has ever come back from the dead claiming hellfire and brimstone because of his actions.
However secular law disproves your claim. People should not be pedophiles because man has stated such, and there are proven consequences...prison, fines, being bubbas bitch for the duration, etc.
So your claim that it cannot be proven that people should not be pedophiles is false.
In a nutshell, moral law is that which is sanctioned by god. Secular law is based on worldly, that is not religious or spiritual laws as mandated by god, but by man.
You claim that it cannot be proven that people should not be pedophiles. By moral law you are correct, because there is no consequence to pedophilia in moral law that can be proven. To my knowledge, no kiddy diddler has ever come back from the dead claiming hellfire and brimstone because of his actions.
However secular law disproves your claim. People should not be pedophiles because man has stated such, and there are proven consequences...prison, fines, being bubbas bitch for the duration, etc.
So your claim that it cannot be proven that people should not be pedophiles is false.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,501
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 4 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,538
any member of any religion will automatically go to hell
therefor heaven is empty
think about it faggots
therefor heaven is empty
think about it faggots
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 31 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,541
@436,487 (H)
Science is not a religion that advocates your own well being. As i understand it science is knowledge and it is us to decide what we do with that knowledge. You have the knowledge of seeing harmful consequences
of a certain action, then you form an opinion that you should not do that action but you make a mistake when you see the harmful consequences as evidence that the people should not perform that action.
To place the government at such a high place and think that whatever it feels is not okay automatically proves its not okay, is not scientific at all.
Science is not a religion that advocates your own well being. As i understand it science is knowledge and it is us to decide what we do with that knowledge. You have the knowledge of seeing harmful consequences
of a certain action, then you form an opinion that you should not do that action but you make a mistake when you see the harmful consequences as evidence that the people should not perform that action.
To place the government at such a high place and think that whatever it feels is not okay automatically proves its not okay, is not scientific at all.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,573
@previous (O)
And what has that got to do with his statement that you cannot prove people shouldn't be pedophiles?
Lets stick to one argument at a time, skippy.
And what has that got to do with his statement that you cannot prove people shouldn't be pedophiles?
Lets stick to one argument at a time, skippy.
Anonymous O replied with this 13 years ago, 33 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,584
@previous (H)
Well i am surprised you don't see what it has to do with it because i thought i made it clear. I was replying to a comment that stated that because there are harmful consequences to being a pedophile, it is scientifically proven
that people should not be pedophiles. This is false because like i said, all science could do is show us that there are harmful consequences of being a pedophile. To form an opinion that then you should not be a pedophile because of that, is in fact an opinion and thus it is still unproven.
Well i am surprised you don't see what it has to do with it because i thought i made it clear. I was replying to a comment that stated that because there are harmful consequences to being a pedophile, it is scientifically proven
that people should not be pedophiles. This is false because like i said, all science could do is show us that there are harmful consequences of being a pedophile. To form an opinion that then you should not be a pedophile because of that, is in fact an opinion and thus it is still unproven.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 39 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,596
Anonymous O replied with this 13 years ago, 22 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,604
@previous (H)
No my friend. You look at the evidence in a form of newspaper evidence shows that pedophilia is harmful! and THEN you go out of your way to form your own opinion that AH! this must mean that people should not be pedophiles.
No my friend. You look at the evidence in a form of newspaper evidence shows that pedophilia is harmful! and THEN you go out of your way to form your own opinion that AH! this must mean that people should not be pedophiles.
squeegee joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 11 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #436,610
@previous (O)
"Terrorists blow up hospitals and shoot little girls. But that doesn't mean I shouldn't be a terrorist."
"Terrorists blow up hospitals and shoot little girls. But that doesn't mean I shouldn't be a terrorist."
Anonymous O replied with this 13 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,625
@previous (squeegee)
Terrorists blow up hospitals and shoot little girls. But that doesn't mean people shouldn't be a terrorist.
This is how the world would look like if you only allowed evidence to show you what the truth is. I am glad you realized it.
Terrorists blow up hospitals and shoot little girls. But that doesn't mean people shouldn't be a terrorist.
This is how the world would look like if you only allowed evidence to show you what the truth is. I am glad you realized it.
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,660
Autism
Dragon fuzz joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,678
Mind blown...
doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 13 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,728
@436,388 (K)
> yes i do, why don't we just use the words from that game shall we?
>
> FACT: A fact is a fact because you can show someone that its true
> OPINION: An opinion is an opinion because i CANT show somebody that its true.
>
> So you see, if you use the whole method of using evidence to show you what is true or false, all opinions cannot be shown to be true which makes them false.
No, it makes them opinions. As in subjective, not objective. A (subjective) opinion would be "I like cats", this is not false, it is what this person believes. I'm also not sure what your point is
> This goes for moral opinions like people should not be pedophiles yet everyone would say that it is true that people should not be pedophiles and hopefully you do too.
No, people would say they think people should not be pedophiles.
> yes i do, why don't we just use the words from that game shall we?
>
> FACT: A fact is a fact because you can show someone that its true
> OPINION: An opinion is an opinion because i CANT show somebody that its true.
>
> So you see, if you use the whole method of using evidence to show you what is true or false, all opinions cannot be shown to be true which makes them false.
No, it makes them opinions. As in subjective, not objective. A (subjective) opinion would be "I like cats", this is not false, it is what this person believes. I'm also not sure what your point is
> This goes for moral opinions like people should not be pedophiles yet everyone would say that it is true that people should not be pedophiles and hopefully you do too.
No, people would say they think people should not be pedophiles.
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 42 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,732
@previous (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)
The opinion i like cats can be false if you do not actually like cats.
> people would say they think people should not be pedophiles.
If i asked people if its the truth that people should not be pedophiles they would say yes, that they think so. I mean even you do think that its true that people should not be pedophiles right?
The opinion i like cats can be false if you do not actually like cats.
> people would say they think people should not be pedophiles.
If i asked people if its the truth that people should not be pedophiles they would say yes, that they think so. I mean even you do think that its true that people should not be pedophiles right?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 59 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,734
TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,737
doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 13 years ago, 15 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,738
@436,734 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
because of my learnings
@436,732 (S)
> The opinion i like cats can be false if you do not actually like cats.
Then you dont like cats, and that is not your opinion, you then just lied about your opinion of cats!
> >people would say they think people should not be pedophiles.
>
> If i asked people if its the truth that people should not be pedophiles they would say yes, that they think so. I mean even you do think that its true that people should not be pedophiles right?
that is subjective.
because of my learnings
@436,732 (S)
> The opinion i like cats can be false if you do not actually like cats.
Then you dont like cats, and that is not your opinion, you then just lied about your opinion of cats!
> >people would say they think people should not be pedophiles.
>
> If i asked people if its the truth that people should not be pedophiles they would say yes, that they think so. I mean even you do think that its true that people should not be pedophiles right?
that is subjective.
Anonymous S replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,739
@previous (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)
Doctor... you are kind of going into that phase again where you simply just leave me to figure out why something contradicts my argument. You say something is subjective, go into detail
about why it is subjective or/and how it affects my argument.
Doctor... you are kind of going into that phase again where you simply just leave me to figure out why something contradicts my argument. You say something is subjective, go into detail
about why it is subjective or/and how it affects my argument.
doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,740
@previous (S)
I don't even know what your argument is though!
If someone thinks x, but cannot show it is true with proof, it is an opinion, opinions are subjective. this is elementary school stuff!
I don't even know what your argument is though!
If someone thinks x, but cannot show it is true with proof, it is an opinion, opinions are subjective. this is elementary school stuff!
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,742
Anonymous U joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 14 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,743
@436,740 (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)
so wait. You would say that if someone claimed God is real, It is an opinion?
so wait. You would say that if someone claimed God is real, It is an opinion?
doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 13 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,744
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,745
@previous (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)
Am i not a part of the real world? Aren't you? So when you claim to like something. You are making a claim about the real world.
Am i not a part of the real world? Aren't you? So when you claim to like something. You are making a claim about the real world.
doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,746
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,747
@previous (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)
So when you are saying that people should not be pedophiles you actually mean that you want there to be no pedophiles. You do not think that its true that there should not be pedophiles in this world?
So when you are saying that people should not be pedophiles you actually mean that you want there to be no pedophiles. You do not think that its true that there should not be pedophiles in this world?
doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 13 years ago, 28 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,752
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,754
@previous (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)
If i said that there should be pedophiles and that is my attitudinal statement. Would that be an opinion, even though its a bad one?
If i said that there should be pedophiles and that is my attitudinal statement. Would that be an opinion, even though its a bad one?
doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 13 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,756
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,758
@previous (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)
Well then i say there should be Gods, that is my attitudinal statement. Untouchable by science since its an opinion.
Well then i say there should be Gods, that is my attitudinal statement. Untouchable by science since its an opinion.
doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,762
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,764
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,765
@436,762 (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)
So you think the belief of Gods,demons,unicorns is something that is untouchable by science since those are opinions?
So you think the belief of Gods,demons,unicorns is something that is untouchable by science since those are opinions?
Anonymous V joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,766
> Inb4 opinions/assholes
Now he can feel better about his love for children.
Now he can feel better about his love for children.
doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,767
@436,765 (U)
No, saying there should be unicorns is different to saying there are unicorns or saying it is your opinion there are unicorns
No, saying there should be unicorns is different to saying there are unicorns or saying it is your opinion there are unicorns
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 38 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,768
@436,766 (V)
Because science cant prove that people shouldn't 'love' children and that the only way to think that is to believe it without evidence?
Because science cant prove that people shouldn't 'love' children and that the only way to think that is to believe it without evidence?
Dragon fuzz replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,769
What the fuck? Stop hating on pedophiles! They could be hating chans next...
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,770
@436,767 (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)
If a police man told you there should be some dead bodies in the street and that you shouldn't go there. Would you not think that there ARE dead bodies in the street?
If a police man told you there should be some dead bodies in the street and that you shouldn't go there. Would you not think that there ARE dead bodies in the street?
TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,771
> CTRL + F> "should"
Anonymous V replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,772
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,773
doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 13 years ago, 9 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,774
@436,770 (U)
yes, i would assume he made a linguistic error and meant to say that there are dead bodies in the street. what is even your argument in any of this?
yes, i would assume he made a linguistic error and meant to say that there are dead bodies in the street. what is even your argument in any of this?
Anonymous V replied with this 13 years ago, 45 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,775
@436,770 (U)
Subjective vs objective, why can't you understand that?
You have been given the tools, please use them and quit this merry-go-round. As soon as one person shows you the error of your statements and why, you go right back to using the same methods of argument. Are you autistic?
Subjective vs objective, why can't you understand that?
You have been given the tools, please use them and quit this merry-go-round. As soon as one person shows you the error of your statements and why, you go right back to using the same methods of argument. Are you autistic?
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,777
@436,772 (V)
But that's not fair. You are the one telling me that i am the pedo and that i can feel good about it. Which makes me think that actually you are a pedo sympathizer because of your history with your dad and mom
But that's not fair. You are the one telling me that i am the pedo and that i can feel good about it. Which makes me think that actually you are a pedo sympathizer because of your history with your dad and mom
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,779
@previous (U)
> But that's not fair. You are the one telling me that i am the pedo and that i can feel good about it.
Isn't that what you're ultimately fishing for?
> But that's not fair. You are the one telling me that i am the pedo and that i can feel good about it.
Isn't that what you're ultimately fishing for?
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,780
@436,774 (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)
Okay since we aren't understanding each other lets try and make it more clear. Would you say it is not correct to say that even though there are pedophiles in this world, they are not supposed to exist because things that are wrong
are not supposed to exist. ?
Because if you say no. Then you are basically saying that the large majority of peoples moral beliefs are false. Which is my point, that when you use evidence to show you what the truth is, moral beliefs often turn out false.
Okay since we aren't understanding each other lets try and make it more clear. Would you say it is not correct to say that even though there are pedophiles in this world, they are not supposed to exist because things that are wrong
are not supposed to exist. ?
Because if you say no. Then you are basically saying that the large majority of peoples moral beliefs are false. Which is my point, that when you use evidence to show you what the truth is, moral beliefs often turn out false.
doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,782
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,784
@436,779 (H)
oh please, seriously. Calling me a pedophile? You are the one who were all happy because you thought i could be happy about my supposedly pedophilia
oh please, seriously. Calling me a pedophile? You are the one who were all happy because you thought i could be happy about my supposedly pedophilia
Green replied with this 13 years ago, 39 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,785
Stop hating on pedophiles, guys! Seriously, you don't want to see minichan deleted!
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 15 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,786
@436,782 (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)
Yes they can be proven false. Like i already pointed out to you. If i said i liked cats, it would be an opinion. But i could be lying, which would make the opinion false.
Yes they can be proven false. Like i already pointed out to you. If i said i liked cats, it would be an opinion. But i could be lying, which would make the opinion false.
TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,789
@previous (U)
The opinion itself wouldn't be false. Opinions can be neither true nor false. If you said you liked cats, but you were lying, the statement you made (e.g. "I like cats") would be false, but the opinion wouldn't be.
The opinion itself wouldn't be false. Opinions can be neither true nor false. If you said you liked cats, but you were lying, the statement you made (e.g. "I like cats") would be false, but the opinion wouldn't be.
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 58 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,790
@436,785 (Green)
Gee i am sorry. Didn't mean to hate on people who are sick. I am actually always talking about the sickness not the people who are pedophiles.
Gee i am sorry. Didn't mean to hate on people who are sick. I am actually always talking about the sickness not the people who are pedophiles.
doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,791
@436,786 (U)
i explained that here though @436,738 (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)
also tteh here @436,789 (TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs)
i explained that here though @436,738 (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)
also tteh here @436,789 (TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs)
Green replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,792
This thread has to be deleted if it keeps destroying pedophiles.
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,798
@436,789 (TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs)
right okay, so now you guys have defined opinions to a whole new level, They have 2 entities, the statement which can be proven false/true, and then the opinion itself which can't be proven true/false, the opinion is a special thing in this world with unique abilities to not be true or false at the same time. Its a entities from another dimension.
Anyway like i have said many times, almost ANYONE believes that it is true that people should not hurt each other. Which proves my point that almost EVERYONE believe things without evidence.
right okay, so now you guys have defined opinions to a whole new level, They have 2 entities, the statement which can be proven false/true, and then the opinion itself which can't be proven true/false, the opinion is a special thing in this world with unique abilities to not be true or false at the same time. Its a entities from another dimension.
Anyway like i have said many times, almost ANYONE believes that it is true that people should not hurt each other. Which proves my point that almost EVERYONE believe things without evidence.
doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 13 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,802
doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,803
@436,798 (U)
> Anyway like i have said many times, almost ANYONE believes that it is true that people should not hurt each other. Which proves my point that almost EVERYONE believe things without evidence.
no they dont believe it is true. it is their and most peoples opinion.
> Anyway like i have said many times, almost ANYONE believes that it is true that people should not hurt each other. Which proves my point that almost EVERYONE believe things without evidence.
no they dont believe it is true. it is their and most peoples opinion.
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,806
@436,802 (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)
No that is so totally not right dude i promise you. Like imagine a talk show with molestation victims. Would anyone DARE to say that its not the truth that pedophiles should not have molested them? no man. Not anyone would dare.
No that is so totally not right dude i promise you. Like imagine a talk show with molestation victims. Would anyone DARE to say that its not the truth that pedophiles should not have molested them? no man. Not anyone would dare.
Anonymous U double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,807
@436,803 (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)
Their opinion is that their opinions are true. I cannot imagine how you can... imagine a world where people would answer no to the question do you think that its the truth that people should not kill babies?. I mean come on
take a reality check.
Their opinion is that their opinions are true. I cannot imagine how you can... imagine a world where people would answer no to the question do you think that its the truth that people should not kill babies?. I mean come on
take a reality check.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 36 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,809
doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 13 years ago, 23 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,810
@436,806 (U)
no, but they cannot objectively proof that. so its not true despite the amount of people saying that it is without objective evidence.
no, but they cannot objectively proof that. so its not true despite the amount of people saying that it is without objective evidence.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,811
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,814
@436,810 (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)
Well Doctor... that is exactly my point. Most people including atheists believe it is true. Even without evidence for it. Yet they go around telling people to not believe things without evidence to support it.
Well Doctor... that is exactly my point. Most people including atheists believe it is true. Even without evidence for it. Yet they go around telling people to not believe things without evidence to support it.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,819
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,823
doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,825
@436,814 (U)
> Well Doctor... that is exactly my point. Most people including atheists believe it is true. Even without evidence for it. Yet they go around telling people to not believe things without evidence to support it.
burden of proof is not really on non-religious people though
> Well Doctor... that is exactly my point. Most people including atheists believe it is true. Even without evidence for it. Yet they go around telling people to not believe things without evidence to support it.
burden of proof is not really on non-religious people though
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,827
@previous (doctor dw md !jdTkvovFCQ)
You can call it a burden if you want. But its not really a burden. The only burden is the hypocrites going around telling you what to do.
You can call it a burden if you want. But its not really a burden. The only burden is the hypocrites going around telling you what to do.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,829
@436,814 (U)
I've not had one atheist knock on my door. But I have had countless xtians, uninvited, try to coerce me to take Jesus as my personal lord and savior. Same xtians tell me that their way is the only way and that their god is the one true god. With no proof.
I've not had one atheist knock on my door. But I have had countless xtians, uninvited, try to coerce me to take Jesus as my personal lord and savior. Same xtians tell me that their way is the only way and that their god is the one true god. With no proof.
Anonymous H double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,830
@436,827 (U)
> The only burden is the hypocrites going around telling you what to do.
Lol, this.
See
@previous (H)
> The only burden is the hypocrites going around telling you what to do.
Lol, this.
See
@previous (H)
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,831
@436,829 (H)
Yeah i imagine that is quite the burden. Though, is it true what you are telling me? because it seems as if all atheists have this problem. All atheists in the world.
Yeah i imagine that is quite the burden. Though, is it true what you are telling me? because it seems as if all atheists have this problem. All atheists in the world.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,834
@previous (U)
Yes it's true. There are several religious sects that believe they must "spread the word" by going door to door and testifying. (Jehovah's witnesses are one).
They leave pamphlets in public places. They accost people at airports. They put bibles in motel rooms.
I am not disparaging you, but you don't know this? I get the feeling you are either trolling, or very young.
Where have you had atheists push their non belief on you?
Yes it's true. There are several religious sects that believe they must "spread the word" by going door to door and testifying. (Jehovah's witnesses are one).
They leave pamphlets in public places. They accost people at airports. They put bibles in motel rooms.
I am not disparaging you, but you don't know this? I get the feeling you are either trolling, or very young.
Where have you had atheists push their non belief on you?
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,843
@previous (H)
I am not trolling and its not that i am young. Its just that i have only seen this in movies where some Mormons on a bike come and knock on the door and typically the people of course do not answer and so they
leave. I know
that it must be annoying and a burden indeed but i never imagined people were getting harassed this way at this rate. But don't worry i believe you.
Where i feel they push their lack-of-belief on me is on the internet. They are always calling people stupid. Have you heard of Yahoo answers? well there is a section for religion and spirituality and so of course this is a big
magnet for atheist trolls.
I am not trolling and its not that i am young. Its just that i have only seen this in movies where some Mormons on a bike come and knock on the door and typically the people of course do not answer and so they
leave. I know
that it must be annoying and a burden indeed but i never imagined people were getting harassed this way at this rate. But don't worry i believe you.
Where i feel they push their lack-of-belief on me is on the internet. They are always calling people stupid. Have you heard of Yahoo answers? well there is a section for religion and spirituality and so of course this is a big
magnet for atheist trolls.
(Edited 5 minutes later.)
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 19 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,852
@previous (U)
Yeah, the Internet is probably the biggest venue for atheists to have a voice, and trolls are gonna troll no matter what. There are legitimate sites one can go to for serious answers to your questions and intelligent discussions. Places where trolling isn't tolerated, or at least kept to a minimum.
You seem very interested in ethics, philosophy, religion, etc. and very open to learning. I hope you keep looking for answers no matter what.
My mother converted to Mormonism after 2 young gentlemen came by our house to "witness".
Yeah, the Internet is probably the biggest venue for atheists to have a voice, and trolls are gonna troll no matter what. There are legitimate sites one can go to for serious answers to your questions and intelligent discussions. Places where trolling isn't tolerated, or at least kept to a minimum.
You seem very interested in ethics, philosophy, religion, etc. and very open to learning. I hope you keep looking for answers no matter what.
My mother converted to Mormonism after 2 young gentlemen came by our house to "witness".
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,853
@436,831 (U)
That's quite a big assumption to make. Tell me, do you ever seek out atheists who are not "pushing their views"?
That's quite a big assumption to make. Tell me, do you ever seek out atheists who are not "pushing their views"?
Anonymous U replied with this 13 years ago, 25 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #436,854
@436,852 (H)That is very kind of you to say and hope, especially considering that you might be an atheists and so your mother's conversion was probably not a
thing that gave you a good impression of people with spiritual or religious beliefs. So thanks a lot.
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Alright it is true. I don't know what to say, these trolls, they simply get to you on such a personal level because they talk about almost everyone you care about.
Anyway i really appreciate this discussion because most of the time or well, all the time, the discussion just turns into personal attacks against me. So thanks everyone. I am going to take a small break from the internet now
since this discussion has been on my mind for a long time i think.
Pengy joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 2 months later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #450,964
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