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Meta !PARAdoxiHw started this discussion 13 years ago#30,149
I know most don't, but why does anyone? I can understand why someone would hate an ethnic group (it's wrong but I can understand why someone would do it), and the Nazis did have pretty snappy uniforms and architecture (thanks to Hugo Boss and Albert Speer, respectively). But Hitler the man was a total failure. He mismanaged everything and ended up blowing his brains out in the basement of the Reich Chancellery.
Also, as a result of the Holocaust, Israel was founded, giving the Jewish people their own country! So all anti-semites really have Hitler to blame for zionism. Discuss.
European Union Framework Decision for Combating Racism and Xenophobia (2007)
The text establishes that the following intentional conduct will be punishable in all EU Member States:
- Publicly inciting to violence or hatred , even by dissemination or distribution of tracts, pictures or other material, directed against a group of persons or a member of such a group defined by reference to race, colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin.
- Publicly condoning, denying or grossly trivialising
- crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes as defined in the Statute of the International Criminal Court (Articles 6, 7 and 8) directed against a group of persons or a member of such a group defined by reference to race, colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin, and
- crimes defined by the Tribunal of Nuremberg (Article 6 of the Charter of the International Military Tribunal, London Agreement of 1945) directed against a group of persons or a member of such a group defined by reference to race, colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin.
Member States may choose to punish only conduct which is either carried out in a manner likely to disturb public order or which is threatening, abusive or insulting.
The reference to religion is intended to cover, at least, conduct which is a pretext for directing acts against a group of persons or a member of such a group defined by reference to race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin.
Member States will ensure that these conducts are punishable by criminal penalties of a maximum of at least between 1 and 3 years of imprisonment.[54]
TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs replied with this 13 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#435,764
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
1. That's a framework decision.
2. It doesn't criminalise holocaust denial itself.
> This Framework Decision shall not have the effect of requiring Member States to take measures in contradiction to fundamental principles relating to freedom of association and freedom of expression, in particular freedom of the press and the freedom of expression in other media as they result from constitutional traditions or rules governing the rights and responsibilities of, and the procedural guarantees for, the press or other media where these rules relate to the determination or limitation of liability.
squeegee joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 15 hours later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#435,887
the nazis really did have the best uniforms
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#435,892
Edginess. Or they're just awful bigots.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 17 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#436,242
Maybe they just hate smoking? Hitler was the one who started the anti-smoking campaigns.
Also people upset about Israel are forgetting that we used to live under nuclear threat from the Soviet Union. Israel does this instead: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XXAPXRjMSg
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#436,252
because hitler had the foresight to understand that the jew threat had to be exterminated and ability to do so.
he made no mistakes, he would have succeeded if those low-life nips hadnt pissed off the united states
decibelmilliwatts !!8lSAEPzaj joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#436,270
Because most neoliberals would sooner support literal fascism than any kind of socialism.
Anonymous B replied with this 13 years ago, 20 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#436,536
i would be more upset with people admiring justin bieber or whatever else nitwit fucktarding singer/actor/etc
i think it is save to say hitler is much better than those, atleast he didnt sell out