Topic: What the fucking fuck. "A Boys' Camp to Redefine Gender"
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY started this discussion 13 years ago #29,311
http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2013/07/15/_you_are_you_looks_at_a_gender_nonconforming_camp_for_boys_photos.htmlOver the past three years, photographer Lindsay Morris has been documenting a four-day camp for gender nonconforming boys and their parents.
The camp, “You Are You” (the name has been changed to protect the privacy of the children and is also the name of Morris’ series), is for “Parents who don’t have a gender-confirming 3-year-old who wants to wear high heels and prefers to go down the pink aisle in K-Mart and not that nasty dark boys’ aisle,” Morris said with a laugh.
It is also a place for both parents and children to feel protected in an environment that encourages free expression.
“[The kids] don’t have to look over their shoulders, and they can let down their guard. Those are four days when none of that matters, and they are surrounded by family members who support them,” Morris said.
Morris has stated that her photographic goal for the project is “to represent the spirit of these boys as they shine.” Some of the ways in which the kids shine is through the talent and fashion shows at camp that are popular and for which the campers come well-prepared.
“Some practice for the talent show all year, and others create their own gowns with their mothers or friends of the family,” Morris said. “The focus and enthusiasm is really pretty incredible. Also, it can be very emotional for the parents, especially the families who are new to camp and are experiencing this kind of group acceptance for the very first time.”
Although it is unknown if the kids at the camp will eventually identify as gay or transgender—or even if the way gender and sexuality are defined throughout society will evolve—the camp allows the kids to look at themselves in a completely different way.
“They get enough questioning in their daily lives, so it’s a great place for them to express themselves as they feel. … I feel we hear so many of the sad stories and how LGBT kids are disproportionately affected by bullying, depression, and suicide, and it hangs a heavy cloud over them and kind of dooms them from the beginning. I’m saying this is a new story. This is not a tragedy.”
Morris hopes to eventually publish a book of her work and also launch a large multimedia show that travels the country and the world to show a new face of LGBT youth. The children featured here and in Morris’ project are photographed with the permission of the their parents. Her ultimate goal is to start a foundation that raises money to help underwrite the cost of camp for kids unable to attend. She also hopes to add even more dimension to the project, concentrating on producing more portraiture and documenting the transition the kids experience upon arrival to the camp.
“I would really love to follow the kids into adulthood and see what kind of relationships they develop,” Morris said. “I want to witness the evolution, knowing from where they started and see how life is going to play out for them—hopefully happily—and I think they’re going to have a better transition into adulthood than the generation proceeding them.”
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Sen !q/sOExraek joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 32 minutes later[^] [v] #429,336
I think it's a good thing.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 32 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #429,352
> mad
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #429,356
lol
melodrama !!FVJOHfXUk joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #429,358
Heart warming.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,381
@OP
Are you suggesting that that turns you on?
Are you suggesting that that turns you on?
Handel !JwkjmyyOPs joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,385
If my mother or father brought me to one of these camps I would never forgive them.
Way to fast track your kid to social suicide.
In the end all these kids will commit suicide anyway.
Way to fast track your kid to social suicide.
In the end all these kids will commit suicide anyway.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 14 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,386
@previous (Handel !JwkjmyyOPs)One cannot even imagine the torment this kid will get when his classmates find out about this pic, especially since it's on the goddamn internet and on the goddamn press. Jesus, this shit is of a kid's nightmares, to parade in front of everyone's parents in dress and make up. The only thing worse would be to do the same but in front of the entire school. This is just horrible.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,388
> inb4 Walter attends this camp
Sen !q/sOExraek replied with this 13 years ago, 18 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,389
@429,386 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Nobody's forcing them to do it. Their classmates are probably too young to use the internet anyway. And I'd imagine that it isn't their nightmare because they like dressing up and such. This just gives them a safer place to do it.
I am concerned about the candles and loose fabric on that runway, though.
Nobody's forcing them to do it. Their classmates are probably too young to use the internet anyway. And I'd imagine that it isn't their nightmare because they like dressing up and such. This just gives them a safer place to do it.
I am concerned about the candles and loose fabric on that runway, though.
Anonymous D replied with this 13 years ago, 12 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,392
@previous (Sen !q/sOExraek)
It will be a nightmare when other kids take the piss out of him, I imagine.
It will be a nightmare when other kids take the piss out of him, I imagine.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,394
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Anonymous D replied with this 13 years ago, 32 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,399
@429,394 (I)
Say that to my face, Anonymous I. I'll hook you in the FUCKING gabber, I swear to Christ.
Say that to my face, Anonymous I. I'll hook you in the FUCKING gabber, I swear to Christ.
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,400
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HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 19 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,405
@429,398 (H)
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!KThEOwLwbU joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 59 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,407
@429,392 (D)
oh no, the imaginary children of the future who happen upon a picture who may or may not be a 3 year old version of a classmate when they are reading news articles written in 2013 about a camp for gender nonconforming boys and their parents.
oh no, the imaginary children of the future who happen upon a picture who may or may not be a 3 year old version of a classmate when they are reading news articles written in 2013 about a camp for gender nonconforming boys and their parents.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,410
!KThEOwLwbU replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,413
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
children in america regularly read 5-10 year old newspaper articles about camps for gender nonconforming boys and their parents?
children in america regularly read 5-10 year old newspaper articles about camps for gender nonconforming boys and their parents?
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,415
@429,410 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
u wot m8
Ash has pretty much just fucked you up there. What were you even thinking?
u wot m8
Ash has pretty much just fucked you up there. What were you even thinking?
Anonymous D replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,419
@429,407 (!KThEOwLwbU)
They don't have to have read the news article themselves to hear about this, you dolt.
They don't have to have read the news article themselves to hear about this, you dolt.
Anonymous D double-posted this 13 years ago, 57 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,420
@429,404 (I)
OK I am coming to 123 Fake Street and I will not release the grip on your neck until you have stopped fucking breathing. Thanks.
OK I am coming to 123 Fake Street and I will not release the grip on your neck until you have stopped fucking breathing. Thanks.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,421
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Anonymous D replied with this 13 years ago, 10 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,428
@previous (I)
Assless chaps?
@429,421 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Cease deforming my fucking character IMMEDIATELY you piece of shit.
Assless chaps?
@429,421 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Cease deforming my fucking character IMMEDIATELY you piece of shit.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,430
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Triptych !IupsXZPnnU replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,436
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
How would they identify it though? The kid's three years old.
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quite young anyway, don't see an age
How would they identify it though? The kid's three years old.
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quite young anyway, don't see an age
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Sen !q/sOExraek replied with this 13 years ago, 43 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,437
@429,435 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Their peers would be like four years old.
By the time they grow up, the article will have sunk to oblivion.
Their peers would be like four years old.
By the time they grow up, the article will have sunk to oblivion.
!KThEOwLwbU replied with this 13 years ago, 14 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,443
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,458
This is what happens when you exclude childbirth and motherhood from the concept of feminity. Boys start to think they can do it too.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 18 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,466
jump !NFkQePxwGo joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 10 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,471
@429,386 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
That's because te classmates are douchebags and the other adults who will silently approve of the bullying are douche bags.
I don't see why this is bad. It's not forcing boys to wear dresses, it allows them to.
That's because te classmates are douchebags and the other adults who will silently approve of the bullying are douche bags.
I don't see why this is bad. It's not forcing boys to wear dresses, it allows them to.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,511
I dont think that this manner of dress should be encouraged for either gender.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,512
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
The whole "parading in front of adults while crossdressing" thing left me very uncomfortable.
The whole "parading in front of adults while crossdressing" thing left me very uncomfortable.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,514
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,515
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 11 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,518
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Could be. Seems like a better camp would be something that offered drama, singing, and practical skills for both genders and all ages.
Could be. Seems like a better camp would be something that offered drama, singing, and practical skills for both genders and all ages.
jump !NFkQePxwGo replied with this 13 years ago, 41 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,524
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,525
@previous (jump !NFkQePxwGo)
I know. Are you implying that only single men have fetishes?
I know. Are you implying that only single men have fetishes?
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jump !NFkQePxwGo replied with this 13 years ago, 2 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,543
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
No, but if they are doing it for their kids, its far less likely they're getting off on it. I mean, look at the boy in the picture, no one wants to fuck him.
No, but if they are doing it for their kids, its far less likely they're getting off on it. I mean, look at the boy in the picture, no one wants to fuck him.
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #429,544
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 2 days later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #430,169
Gender is child abuse.
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 40 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #430,179
I wonder what /cd/ thinks of this.