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Topic: Libertarians, if you don't like government, go to Somalia.

Meta !PARAdoxiHw started this discussion 13 years ago #28,900

Seriously, who thinks they're clever by saying this? It's like saying "Liberals, if you don't like capitalism go to North Korea". Discuss

beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #425,045

Libertarians are retarded, so you have to bring your arguments down to their level.

Meta !PARAdoxiHw (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 19 minutes later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #425,049

@previous (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
I'm Libertarian, and I am not retarded thanks.

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #425,050

@425,045 (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
Rude

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #425,053

But it makes a valid point. A lot of Libertarians like to demomise the government, and argue that if it was extremely reduced or even effectively removed, most of society's problems would be fixed.

Then you've got Somalia, which demonstrates what can happen without a government organising and enforcing everything. Anarchy, chaos. A brutal and unsafe existence if you're not in a gang of some kind.

I see the argument as a way to remind more extreme Libertarians that they should take a more moderate view on the matter.

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Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #425,063

@425,045 (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
@425,049 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
@425,050 (C)
becky is correct. Thanks.

Meta !PARAdoxiHw (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #425,064

@425,053 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)

> But it makes a valid point. A lot of Liberals like to demonise capitalism, and argue that if it was extremely reduced or even effectively regulated, most of society's problems would be fixed.
>
> Then you've got North Korea, which demonstrates what can happen without capitalism and civil liberties. Famine, totalitarianism. A brutal and unsafe existence if you're not high up in the Worker's Party.
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> I see the argument as a way to remind more extreme Liberals that they should take a more moderate view on the matter.

Proved my point thanks.

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kook !!32zdfdzi+ joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 21 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #425,067

@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
How did this prove your point?

Meta !PARAdoxiHw (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #425,069

@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
That "libertarians should go to Somalia" and "liberals should go to North Korea" are basically equivalent statements, and neither really makes sense for various reasons.

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beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #425,070

@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Somalia and North Korea are on different continents, you fora-mora.

Meta !PARAdoxiHw (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #425,071

> maagd

kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #425,073

@425,069 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Well all examples of communist societies have been shitty so far. All examples of anrachist societies have been shitty as well

!KThEOwLwbU joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 40 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #425,081

somalia has many governments that is the problem

Triptych !IupsXZPnnU joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 28 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #425,083

@425,053 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
What about Belgium?

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 2 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #425,090

@425,045 (beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao)
this

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #425,104

@425,053 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> Anarchy, chaos. A brutal and unsafe existence if you're not in a gang of some kind.
No, this is what happens in a country full of melanin enriched gentleman when an AK47 is cheaper than a loaf of bread.

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Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 14 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #425,106

@425,049 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Shut the fuck up. You're so fucking retarded. You're retarded enough to promise your vote to Rand Paul. I bought into your edgy libertarianism for a while, until it became abundantly clear that you're grossly misinformed and more ignorant than Sarah Palin's downy baby.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 12 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #425,107

@425,064 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
But you've basically just accepted my logic. I never said that I cared that it could be applied to other political idealogies.

Anonymous K replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #425,108

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I know you're a britfag but you should look into Rand Paul. Edgy drunk neckbeard fag wants that nutjob to be POTUS. Point being that Meta has all the political savvy of Sarah Palin's retarded child.

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Meta !PARAdoxiHw (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 4 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #425,154

@previous (K)
@425,106 (K)
At least Sarah Palins baby was smart enough not to vote for Obama.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #425,169

@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
But I cannot vote, Meta. It is not at the age to vote.

HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 8 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #425,295

Somalia was a socialist nation with gun control laws and welfare and muslim niggers that colllapsed so I don't see why we'd have to leave at all.

Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #425,307

@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Somalia is the future of all socialist nations.

HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY replied with this 13 years ago, 41 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #425,308

@previous (M)
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