Topic: Should I film myself breaking into a cemetery tonight?
Ghadmin !GHOULxkves started this discussion 15 years ago#2,845
In the interest of paranormal research, I want to break into a cemetery tonight and film myself trying to communicate with spirits. The only problem is that this cemetery is on a major road, and I could get caught by cops. Should I risk being arrested, and possibly losing my new jobs, or should I risk it for the sake of the science?
Ph !5pM9NZR/l6 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later[^][v]#52,184
Make sure you also state your full name on the tape.
The Owl !yshAAUvyds joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 minutes after the original post[^][v]#52,185
Recording yourself performing an illegal act is a silly thing to do.
Ghadmin !GHOULxkves (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^][v]#52,190
@previous (The Owl !yshAAUvyds)
I know, but is it really that illegal? I mean, going into a cemetery at night, when there are no signs posted, etc.? Would I get arrested, or would a cop just say to get out and go home?
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^][v]#52,192
> science > ghosts
Pick one
Ghadmin !GHOULxkves (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 minutes after the original post[^][v]#52,197
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True, but is it a huge deal, or just a warning type of thing, if I feigned ignorance of that law?
Ph !5pM9NZR/l6 replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 19 minutes after the original post[^][v]#52,200
@previous (Ghadmin !GHOULxkves)
How visible are the posted "No trespassing" signs?
Is this a well known private cemetary?
Is it completely gated?
Ghadmin !GHOULxkves (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 30 seconds later, 20 minutes after the original post[^][v]#52,201
@previous (Ph !5pM9NZR/l6)
There is no gate, and no "No Trespassing" signs. It is owned by the Catholic Church.
Ghadmin !GHOULxkves (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^][v]#52,203
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ok
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 27 minutes after the original post[^][v]#52,205
@previous (Ghadmin !GHOULxkves)
You'll be fine. The cops just going to tell you to go home, if you do get caught.
And the church would not press charges on you, guaranteed.
Ghadmin !GHOULxkves (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 42 seconds later, 28 minutes after the original post[^][v]#52,207
@previous (F)
I just do not want to get arrested lol.
Ph !5pM9NZR/l6 replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 30 minutes after the original post[^][v]#52,208
@previous (Ghadmin !GHOULxkves)
Anon F is right. It isn't public as it is owned by the church, but with it not being gated the most you would get is a strange look and a slap on the wrist.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^][v]#52,214
@52,207 (Ghadmin !GHOULxkves)
First of all it's highly unlikely that you will even be noticed. Secondly it's even more unlikely that a cop will even stop on the rare chance he finds out you've entered the cemetery. And finally it's even less unlikely that he'll care enough to arrest you.
They're more concerned with writing traffic tickets or getting drug- or violence-related arrests; it looks better on paper.
The Owl !yshAAUvyds replied with this 15 years ago, 42 seconds later, 36 minutes after the original post[^][v]#52,216
Go and talk to the priest who lives in the church about doing it.
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 39 minutes after the original post[^][v]#52,219
You need to park your car somewhere that isn't visible from the road, and walk to the cemetery.
Falco !PZmcClOUDk joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 12 seconds later, 40 minutes after the original post[^][v]#52,220
too bad ghosts aren't real.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 5 seconds later, 40 minutes after the original post[^][v]#52,221
AC !tyLmN8C16E double-posted this 15 years ago, 20 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,337
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This is a decent point, though.
jump !VIfloDyEYo joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,733
Why not go during the day when it will be far less suspicious?
Do ghosts sleep during the day? Or are you relying on the whole poor human night vision thing so you can mistake shadows and such for ghosts? Also, why would they be in cemeteries? Wouldn't they be where they died? I don't understand ghost logic. None of it makes sense.
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,735
@previous (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
I've met people who have claimed to have seen ghosts in the retirement home, but I never have.
(Edited 2 minutes later.)
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 46 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,737
@52,733 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
It's impossible to use logic to prove the existence of something that doesn't exist...
Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 35 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,781
I did it. I am uploading the data now to my netbook, and I will analyze it overnight, then post it on the website.
Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0 (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 53 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,782
@52,733 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
I think that, just like living people visit the graves of their loved ones, dead people could visit their own graves. I mean, if I were dead, I would at least occasionally go look at my grave I think. That does not mean that every cemetery is packed with ghosts, but I think it is a logical enough place to at least look.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,792
@52,781 (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0) > I will analyze it overnight
What does that involve?
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 37 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,793
I'm glad that you made it home unscathed.
Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 36 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,794
@52,792 (F)
Using software to isolate any sort of interesting part, and look at it slowly and carefully for anything, basically.
@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
Thanks!! IT was fun!
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,795
Nexus !jNexusRe/. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,796
I would pay to see you tell a cop you were at a cemetery because you were looking for ghosts.
The look on his face would be priceless, and the look on your face when you were in handcuffs would be equally as priceless.
Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 46 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,797
@previous (Nexus !jNexusRe/.)
lol I would just say I am filming a documentary, which is 100% true
Nexus !jNexusRe/. replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,799
@previous (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0)
Because you are embarrassed by the fact you are hunting something that kids dress up as during Halloween.
Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 35 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,800
@previous (Nexus !jNexusRe/.)
No. I am not embarrassed at all, or I would not have a website about it. I would just not want to confuse the policeman. Let's face it: they are not known to be Rhodes scholars.
Nexus !jNexusRe/. replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,801
@previous (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0)
Because you realize a cop would think you had a few screws loose because you are a grown man who reeks of liqour running around hunting something that does not exist.
Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 51 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,802
@previous (Nexus !jNexusRe/.)
No. Your caricature of me is not accurate, and you are just trying to provoke me.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 17 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,803
@52,800 (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0) > Let's face it: they are not known to be Rhodes scholars.
Neither are you.
Nexus !jNexusRe/. replied with this 15 years ago, 30 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,804
@52,802 (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0)
I am speaking nothing but facts, matt.
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,805
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 25 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,806
@52,794 (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0)
I keep imaging your foot going through soft soil, ankle deep into a shallow grave.
Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 57 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,807
@52,804 (Nexus !jNexusRe/.)
No, you are not. I do not "have a few screws loose." I am very intelligent actually, and I am able to hold down two jobs, have a network of friends and family, and take care of things. Second, I do not "reek of liquor." I drank some wine tonight, with dinner, but you act like I am some stinking gutter bum. And your opinion that ghosts do "not exist" is your opinion. Other people, very intelligent people, disagree with you.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 7 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,808
@52,794 (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0)
Which software? This infrared footage?
Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,811
@previous (F)
IT is infrared footage and digital audio. All that is required is software that can pause, slow it, isolate a section, and replay it for me.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 15 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,812
@52,807 (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0)
Being intelligent does not give you credibility outside of your field.
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 24 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,813
@52,807 (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0)
It was better for you to tell that lie.
Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 21 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,814
@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
What do you mean specifically?
Nexus !jNexusRe/. replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,815
@52,807 (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0)
I never said you had a few screws loose, i said if you ran around a graveyard telling people you were hunting ghosts, people will reach that natural conclusion. Having a job for a few weeks because uncle sam decided to stop giving you free money is not holding down a job.
> I drank some wine tonight, with dinner, but you act like I am some stinking gutter bum.
To you, "some wine" is the whole bottle.
> Other people, very intelligent people, disagree with you.
Who, sK?
Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,821
@previous (Nexus !jNexusRe/.)
1. I have never been on government dole. Federal student loans are not "free money." They are loans given at interest, just like a bank might do.
2. You said I reeked of liquor. I do not. That is my point.
3. Surely you understand that many very intelligent people in the world believe in something beyond the mere physical? Even Einstein did.
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 47 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,822
@52,814 (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0)
Because there is a stigma about ghost hunting, like it or not. If you are doing anything potentially illegal, you don't want to seem nutty.
Nexus !jNexusRe/. replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,825
@52,821 (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0)
So you are saying Einstein believed in ghosts?
> You said I reeked of liquor. I do not. That is my point.
Denial.
> I have never been on government dole. Federal student loans are not "free money." They are loans given at interest, just like a bank might do.
Yes, good job learning that in economics, now do you know the rate the government will garnish your paychecks when you report your income taxes in april?
jump !VIfloDyEYo replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,828
@52,821 (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0)
Could you source Einstein, I have a feeling you are quote mining or regurgitating bullshit.
Also, what is a ghost? I mean, it sounds as though it would be some part of a dead human, but our identity is the result of the workings of our brains. Our memories are stored in our brain. How does that escape death? What is it?
It doesn't make any sense. If you really wanted to study ghosts or the paranormal, wouldn't the likely place to start be the human body and the dead human body?
I just don't understand how a college educated adult can take this stuff seriously. Even with stuff I want to believe, I can't force myself to ignore reality that much.
Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,830
@previous (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
I understand that you disagree with me. But, surely you understand that different people in the world, both educated and intelligent, and not, have different beliefs about esoteric things that are hard to prove either way? Why does my belief seem to make you angry? I really do not understand. Different people have different worldviews based on experience Why is that threatening?
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,837
Matt, I think that your ghosts hunting hobby is very interesting and shouldn't bother anyone.
Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,840
@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
Thank you. I appreciate someone being reasonable about this.
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 49 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,842
@previous (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0)
I'm always going to be truthful with you. So keep up the documentary lie, okay?
Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,845
@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
It is not really a lie, is it? I really am filming a documentary by any definition of the word.
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,847
@previous (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0)
It's a deception, but a smart one.
Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 54 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,849
@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
I can see your point. However, I am not 100% convinced that simply not revealing all of the truth, is the same as a lie.
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,852
@previous (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0)
It's not a lie, and even if it was, who cares? You aren't hurting anybody.
Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 26 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,853
@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
I know You are right.
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,861
@previous (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0)
I don't even believe in ghosts, but I would definitely go on a ghost hunt. Why not? It sounds like fun and I'm a curious person.
Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 57 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,863
@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
It's that -- lots of fun. I am not 100% convinced myself. I have seen and heard things that tend to make me believe in the paranormal, but I am not 100% convinced.
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,870
@previous (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0)
I almost went on a ghost hunt with Lord Rick, but before that could happen, he told me that he had fallen in love with me and that I had led him on.
Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,875
@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
damn lol...if one day I get any money and a GHOUL van, I can go there and hunt ghosts with you and your friends! Fun!
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,885
@previous (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0)
That guy is fucking crazy though. Have you heard of him?
Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,886
@previous (totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW)
Yes I think. Isn't he the guy who thinks he is a vampire?
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,892
@previous (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0)
Kind of. He is also a ghosts hunter and drama queen. He's on ED under Angelofthynight.
jump !VIfloDyEYo replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,896
@52,830 (Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0)
Your belief doesn't make me angry. I don't even consider myself as being hostile.
I'm asking what the basis is. I'm just trying to understand. I don't believe I'm any more intelligent than you.
It just seems like you want to go out and hunt ghosts. I can't take you seriously because I don't get where it is coming from. I'm not trying to be mean. I am treating this as I would anything else.
I don't see why I should be considered angry if I question you on your belief. If you feel that I am taking away the enjoyment and you wish to not have this kind of conversation, say so. We don't need to. Everyone needs their hobbies. I am not trying to take anything away from you.
I am just asking questions I feel are relevant.
Depressionmanâ„¢ !!fNJHcIUn0 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,898
@previous (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
Here is the basis: I am an intelligent, educated man. I live in a )maybe) infinite universe, with all sorts of wonderful things in it. My little five senses, on my little planet, cannot possibly understand all universal truth. It would be arrogant to think so. So, I allow for the possibility that things might exist, outside of my five senses.
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#52,900
Get another shtick - Even you are not dumb enough to fall for your current bull shit game. You would have moved this on long ago here to "Do Ghosts have Ghostly fecal products" Except Sysop here would permban your ass. You're fast on the road to that anyway.
How does it feel to be a puppet of mods again? lolol Mods own your pathetic ass!