Topic: Today's weather feels like Florida.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY started this discussion 13 years ago #28,291
Hot, humid and rainy. Fuck.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later[^] [v] #418,746
ur fat
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 9 seconds later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #418,747
Anonymous B replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #418,748
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 42 seconds later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #418,749
How hot?
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #418,750
Anonymous C replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #418,751
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 36 seconds later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #418,752
@OP
Consider yourself an honorary Floridian for the day!
Go load your guns, do a bunch of bath salts, and make with the crazy until you hurt yourself or someone else.
Consider yourself an honorary Floridian for the day!
Go load your guns, do a bunch of bath salts, and make with the crazy until you hurt yourself or someone else.
Syntax joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #418,753
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #418,754
Anonymous B replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #418,755
it will feel hotter than normal for OP because he is fat
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #418,756
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #418,758
@418,754 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
LoL
Cardiff is cold COLD cold
My Cardiff has Whales on occasion but is NOT NOT NOT in Whales. + We wood turn Falklands over to Argentina.
LoL
Cardiff is cold COLD cold
My Cardiff has Whales on occasion but is NOT NOT NOT in Whales. + We wood turn Falklands over to Argentina.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 10 minutes later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #418,762
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #418,763
@previous (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
Belong?
Not according to Queen of England.
Turn on CNN and look at weather in Oklahoma. Not so good currently.
A few look at the another Tornado, removing the debris from the last one and moving it to another place.
Belong?
Not according to Queen of England.
Turn on CNN and look at weather in Oklahoma. Not so good currently.
A few look at the another Tornado, removing the debris from the last one and moving it to another place.
HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 9 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #418,769
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 47 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #418,779
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 5 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,846
> expect walt
> opinion
> opinion
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 17 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,850
Anonymous H double-posted this 13 years ago, 56 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,851
Anonymous E replied with this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,853
@previous (H)
Yes Falklands was raped by the British in2 Submission.
Funny how British Empire was once a major Rape force of Planet Earth and now is reduced to a pimple on the Map.
Of course it seems England is now full of the people they raped and now it seems its payback one day at a tyme.
Yes Falklands was raped by the British in2 Submission.
Funny how British Empire was once a major Rape force of Planet Earth and now is reduced to a pimple on the Map.
Of course it seems England is now full of the people they raped and now it seems its payback one day at a tyme.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,858
@previous (E)
u wot
the falklands literally voted to stay british
not like argentina would be any nicer to them
plenty of countries liked british rule after the end of the empire
newfoundland voted to be governed by britain after its government voted itself out of existence, then voted again to stay under british rule
it kinda got forcedinto canada
u wot
the falklands literally voted to stay british
not like argentina would be any nicer to them
plenty of countries liked british rule after the end of the empire
newfoundland voted to be governed by britain after its government voted itself out of existence, then voted again to stay under british rule
it kinda got forcedinto canada
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 13 hours later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,929
@previous (H)
Of course peeps of Falklands voted to stay Brit. Issue is not if Argentina wood be nice to peeps or not. Issue is Land Grab and have you lost your mind? Look at a map n look C how far that Island is from the Brits Island.
> newfoundland voted to be governed by britain after its government voted itself out of existence, then voted again to stay under british rule
it kinda got forcedinto canada
Kinda got forcedinto canada. Ok tell me more cause I have been to St Johns in Newfoundland and its total Canuck. Odd that they are so close as stones throw to Quebec yet French is not spoken on Island so much.
And by the way I am Anti USA Land grabs as well. Wot ain't rite ain't rite.
Of course peeps of Falklands voted to stay Brit. Issue is not if Argentina wood be nice to peeps or not. Issue is Land Grab and have you lost your mind? Look at a map n look C how far that Island is from the Brits Island.
> newfoundland voted to be governed by britain after its government voted itself out of existence, then voted again to stay under british rule
it kinda got forcedinto canada
Kinda got forcedinto canada. Ok tell me more cause I have been to St Johns in Newfoundland and its total Canuck. Odd that they are so close as stones throw to Quebec yet French is not spoken on Island so much.
And by the way I am Anti USA Land grabs as well. Wot ain't rite ain't rite.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 30 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,955
@previous (Syntax)
How is it a land grab if they want to stay British?
> Due to Newfoundland's high debt load and the loss of faith in the government the Newfoundland legislature voted itself temporarily out of existence in 1933.[61] On February 16, 1934, the Commission of Government was sworn in, ending 79 years of responsible government.[61] The Commission consisted of seven persons appointed by the British government. For 15 years no elections took place, and no legislature was convened.[62]
> When prosperity returned to the colony in 1942 agitation began to end the Commission.[63] Newfoundland, with a population of 313,000 (plus 5,200 in Labrador), seemed too small to be independent.[64] The British government decided to let Newfoundlanders deliberate and choose their own future by calling a National Convention in 1946
> The first referendum took place on June 3, 1948; 44.5% of people voted for responsible government, 41.1% voted for confederation with Canada, while 14.3% voted for Commission of Government. Since none of the choices had gained over 50%, a second referendum with only the two more popular choices was held on July 22, 1948. In that referendum 52.3% voted for confederation with Canada while 47.7% voted for responsible government.
Not really forced but still. NL was never very Canadian.
How is it a land grab if they want to stay British?
> Due to Newfoundland's high debt load and the loss of faith in the government the Newfoundland legislature voted itself temporarily out of existence in 1933.[61] On February 16, 1934, the Commission of Government was sworn in, ending 79 years of responsible government.[61] The Commission consisted of seven persons appointed by the British government. For 15 years no elections took place, and no legislature was convened.[62]
> When prosperity returned to the colony in 1942 agitation began to end the Commission.[63] Newfoundland, with a population of 313,000 (plus 5,200 in Labrador), seemed too small to be independent.[64] The British government decided to let Newfoundlanders deliberate and choose their own future by calling a National Convention in 1946
> The first referendum took place on June 3, 1948; 44.5% of people voted for responsible government, 41.1% voted for confederation with Canada, while 14.3% voted for Commission of Government. Since none of the choices had gained over 50%, a second referendum with only the two more popular choices was held on July 22, 1948. In that referendum 52.3% voted for confederation with Canada while 47.7% voted for responsible government.
Not really forced but still. NL was never very Canadian.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,957
Hey Syntax, you never answered the points in this thread.
http://minichan.org/topic/28126#reply_417605
http://minichan.org/topic/28126#reply_417605
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 13 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,960
@418,955 (H)
You need to go back to when Brits grabbed the Falklands. Brits land grabbed the Falklands in 1833. Its about 1/2 way around Planet Earth from Britain proper.
Brits then imported Brits to live there so they are expected to vote for mother country.
Wiki says
> The population, estimated at 2,932 in 2012, primarily consists of native Falkland Islanders, the vast majority being of British descent.
You can rest assured that if Argentina attempted to take over Ireland them Brits wood do as they did to the IRA.
British Empire of long ago fell apart as you well No. Brits now just a pimple on face of Planet Earth compared to the World Leader. Here in USA we had that original Tea Party and every July 4th Party on re kicking out them Brits n sending the King/Queens packing.
You need to go back to when Brits grabbed the Falklands. Brits land grabbed the Falklands in 1833. Its about 1/2 way around Planet Earth from Britain proper.
Brits then imported Brits to live there so they are expected to vote for mother country.
Wiki says
> The population, estimated at 2,932 in 2012, primarily consists of native Falkland Islanders, the vast majority being of British descent.
You can rest assured that if Argentina attempted to take over Ireland them Brits wood do as they did to the IRA.
British Empire of long ago fell apart as you well No. Brits now just a pimple on face of Planet Earth compared to the World Leader. Here in USA we had that original Tea Party and every July 4th Party on re kicking out them Brits n sending the King/Queens packing.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,961
@previous (Syntax)
Hey Syntax, you're ignoring the points raised in @418,957 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Hey Syntax, you're ignoring the points raised in @418,957 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,962
@418,960 (Syntax)
Uh, the US, Canada, and Australia were all filled with Brits. Every one of them has claimed independence.
Uh, the US, Canada, and Australia were all filled with Brits. Every one of them has claimed independence.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,963
@418,957 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> Who would the rightful owners of the Falklands be, again? Bear in mind the Brits were on the Islands before Argentina even existed as a state. The Argies suggest they "inherited" Spain's claim, which is ridiculous.
On that basis the Channel Islands as close as 25 miles off coast of Malibu wood belong to Russia. Russia was there b4 USA existed and California was Mexico land.
The people living on the Island wayyyyy back n Falklands were NOT British were they. Multiple early explores for many countries claimed the Islands.
Bottom line in my book is the Falklands are next door to Argentina 10,000 miles away from postage stamp size Britain and its just wrong wrong for Britain to hold on.
Now KL you are surrounded by people from former Brit Colonies. Lots of Rag Heads mad as hell over the take over of their Mother lands. Now living next door to ya and I wonders how that is working out for Brits?
Ya ancestors raped them peoples ancestors so how are they all treating you currently? How is that bed of roses?
> Who would the rightful owners of the Falklands be, again? Bear in mind the Brits were on the Islands before Argentina even existed as a state. The Argies suggest they "inherited" Spain's claim, which is ridiculous.
On that basis the Channel Islands as close as 25 miles off coast of Malibu wood belong to Russia. Russia was there b4 USA existed and California was Mexico land.
The people living on the Island wayyyyy back n Falklands were NOT British were they. Multiple early explores for many countries claimed the Islands.
Bottom line in my book is the Falklands are next door to Argentina 10,000 miles away from postage stamp size Britain and its just wrong wrong for Britain to hold on.
Now KL you are surrounded by people from former Brit Colonies. Lots of Rag Heads mad as hell over the take over of their Mother lands. Now living next door to ya and I wonders how that is working out for Brits?
Ya ancestors raped them peoples ancestors so how are they all treating you currently? How is that bed of roses?
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,964
Anonymous D replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,966
@418,960 (Syntax)
> start by saying imported Brits are expected to vote for their mother country.
> end by talking about imported Brits claiming independence
You have reached new heights of WTF.
> start by saying imported Brits are expected to vote for their mother country.
> end by talking about imported Brits claiming independence
You have reached new heights of WTF.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 35 seconds later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,967
@418,963 (Syntax)
okay so you've just completly ignored TTEH's point about Argentina not having a legitimate claim to the islands and instead started rambling about distance and the British Empire.
okay so you've just completly ignored TTEH's point about Argentina not having a legitimate claim to the islands and instead started rambling about distance and the British Empire.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 19 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,982
@418,964 (H)Total BS - Brits made a mess of the Middle East- Even drew new border lines
@418,966 (D)
Brits shipped over More Brits to populate Island. Brits tend to be loyal to Mother country and recently voted to b as expected British ruled.
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
How does Argentina not have a legit claim? Go on tell me.
If not for USA helping Brits this last tyme in war, Falklands wood be Argentinian. After all Brits build new warship and one cheep as shit French missile wipes it out.
Syntax double-posted this 13 years ago, 43 seconds later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,985
Syntax triple-posted this 13 years ago, 48 seconds later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,987
Syntax quadruple-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,989
Damn I apologize for 3 same images. I need to find the one where that Anti Missile Ship is butt fucked by one Missile.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,991
@418,982 (Syntax)
No more than the US! And Britain hasn't owned the middle east, go look up a map of the british empire.
Australia was populated by Brits. I don;t see them being very British now. Oh, and how do you feel about Alaska?
No more than the US! And Britain hasn't owned the middle east, go look up a map of the british empire.
Australia was populated by Brits. I don;t see them being very British now. Oh, and how do you feel about Alaska?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #418,994
@418,982 (Syntax)
Do you really think that Argentina can just say that it "inhereted" Spain's claim to the Falklands?
Also, do you not care that people hs e established homes, lives and families there? Do you think that they should all just be uprooted and thrown out because a nearby country thinks that they should have the land instead?
Do you really think that Argentina can just say that it "inhereted" Spain's claim to the Falklands?
Also, do you not care that people hs e established homes, lives and families there? Do you think that they should all just be uprooted and thrown out because a nearby country thinks that they should have the land instead?
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,004
@418,991 (H)
Don't mistrake me for being Anti British n Pro USA.
Middle East Fucked over long ago by French n Brits. Australia n I have worked/lived there - Was that NOT a place to dump Brit Prisoners.
Alaska - A good example of USA policy re Land Grab from the Natives. I do support a Empire needs to protect itself from a near by Enemy. So at some point it was good to have Alaska under USA control as a Buffer re Ruskies next door as Sarah Palin so reminded of us. After all she wood wake up and look to see with own eyes if they were invading.
Falklands is of no protection from Brits in England being Invaded by Argentina. The only relationship Falklands has to Britain is is Land Grab
USA also had no rite to take over Hawaii Islands. Just plain Wrong.
Don't mistrake me for being Anti British n Pro USA.
Middle East Fucked over long ago by French n Brits. Australia n I have worked/lived there - Was that NOT a place to dump Brit Prisoners.
Alaska - A good example of USA policy re Land Grab from the Natives. I do support a Empire needs to protect itself from a near by Enemy. So at some point it was good to have Alaska under USA control as a Buffer re Ruskies next door as Sarah Palin so reminded of us. After all she wood wake up and look to see with own eyes if they were invading.
Falklands is of no protection from Brits in England being Invaded by Argentina. The only relationship Falklands has to Britain is is Land Grab
USA also had no rite to take over Hawaii Islands. Just plain Wrong.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,005
@previous (Syntax)
> Falklands is of no protection from Brits in England being Invaded by Argentina. The only relationship Falklands has to Britain is is Land Grab
No, you twit. The relationship is "we have citizens over there". There's no insidious plan at work, the British government is just looking after its citizens.
> Falklands is of no protection from Brits in England being Invaded by Argentina. The only relationship Falklands has to Britain is is Land Grab
No, you twit. The relationship is "we have citizens over there". There's no insidious plan at work, the British government is just looking after its citizens.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,007
@418,994 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
No I think those old claims re Spain or even Portugal are of no current value.
For me its a simple as say India. Why did Brits take over India. Good they are gone eh. Egypt as well.
And you damn well No Argentina wood not take a profit making operation when they one day do get that property off their own coast. They will of course take the tax's which currently goes to Brits empire.
You and I No its currently about Oil. Oil rites offshore.
No I think those old claims re Spain or even Portugal are of no current value.
For me its a simple as say India. Why did Brits take over India. Good they are gone eh. Egypt as well.
And you damn well No Argentina wood not take a profit making operation when they one day do get that property off their own coast. They will of course take the tax's which currently goes to Brits empire.
You and I No its currently about Oil. Oil rites offshore.
Syntax double-posted this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,008
@419,005 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Twit? Brits could care less about less then 3000 people. Drop in bucket
Oil all that Oil Argentina really owns. I hope Argentina horiZontal drills and sucks all of it UP.
Twit? Brits could care less about less then 3000 people. Drop in bucket
Oil all that Oil Argentina really owns. I hope Argentina horiZontal drills and sucks all of it UP.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 16 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,009
@419,004 (Syntax)
> Alaska as a land grab from the Natives
Yeah, how about Canada? That's a country too, you know.
> Alaska as a land grab from the Natives
Yeah, how about Canada? That's a country too, you know.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,011
@419,008 (Syntax)
Okay, so now your argument is that the British government doesn't give a shit about its own citizens (why do they negotiate with terrorist kidnappers, then?) and that there is some shadowy conspiracy involving oil.
@419,007 (Syntax)
Why do you keep rambling on about things the British Empire did years and years ago? India isn't in the Falklands, bud. It's irrelevant.
Okay, so now your argument is that the British government doesn't give a shit about its own citizens (why do they negotiate with terrorist kidnappers, then?) and that there is some shadowy conspiracy involving oil.
@419,007 (Syntax)
Why do you keep rambling on about things the British Empire did years and years ago? India isn't in the Falklands, bud. It's irrelevant.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,016
@419,009 (H)
Canada.
Tough one. A huge amount of land that few wanted. Of course with the current new source of oil - but alas no one other then those French Canucks seem upset about conditions OTHER Then of course the Natives that get fucked by everyone who invades. USA Australia Alaska - Natives always lose. Locally USA Natives are starting to do more better re Gambling in some areas of USA.
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Well we could discuss Ireland. Most of that Island is not exactly pro British. Brits could have split the Island fully by drawing a line. Bottom line is Ireland has been so costly to all of Brits to retain and wot did they get in the deal? Seems mainland is stuck with economy problems just to hold on2 most of that Island.
> Why do you keep rambling on about things the British Empire did years and years ago?
Only cause Brits bailed out of those places yet has this one tiny Island 10,000 miles away with No proper reason to hold on. They left butthurt from so many other places and you think their is no shadow conspiracy?
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-04-04/the-falkland-islands-brace-for-oil-wealth
Soon Argentines may have something else to be angry about. The Falklands are no longer just an archipelago of sheep farmers and fishermen at world’s end. A promising offshore oil discovery is expected to bring the British territory $10.5 billion in tax revenue and royalties over 25 years.
The Argentines have threatened to sue any company involved in Falklands drilling, but that hasn’t stopped the islanders. The Falklands government is starting a wealth fund to manage the cash. On the agenda: paving the main highway from the airport to the capital of Stanley, improving the port so it can accept larger ships, and reimbursing the £60 million ($90 million) the U.K. spends annually to defend the islands. “In times of recession, it’s difficult for people in the U.K. to justify spending money on a small population on the other end of the world,” says Andrea Clausen, a Falklander who owns a bus company. “But as long as Argentina claims the Falklands in its constitution, the threat won’t go away.”
Canada.
Tough one. A huge amount of land that few wanted. Of course with the current new source of oil - but alas no one other then those French Canucks seem upset about conditions OTHER Then of course the Natives that get fucked by everyone who invades. USA Australia Alaska - Natives always lose. Locally USA Natives are starting to do more better re Gambling in some areas of USA.
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Well we could discuss Ireland. Most of that Island is not exactly pro British. Brits could have split the Island fully by drawing a line. Bottom line is Ireland has been so costly to all of Brits to retain and wot did they get in the deal? Seems mainland is stuck with economy problems just to hold on2 most of that Island.
> Why do you keep rambling on about things the British Empire did years and years ago?
Only cause Brits bailed out of those places yet has this one tiny Island 10,000 miles away with No proper reason to hold on. They left butthurt from so many other places and you think their is no shadow conspiracy?
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-04-04/the-falkland-islands-brace-for-oil-wealth
Soon Argentines may have something else to be angry about. The Falklands are no longer just an archipelago of sheep farmers and fishermen at world’s end. A promising offshore oil discovery is expected to bring the British territory $10.5 billion in tax revenue and royalties over 25 years.
The Argentines have threatened to sue any company involved in Falklands drilling, but that hasn’t stopped the islanders. The Falklands government is starting a wealth fund to manage the cash. On the agenda: paving the main highway from the airport to the capital of Stanley, improving the port so it can accept larger ships, and reimbursing the £60 million ($90 million) the U.K. spends annually to defend the islands. “In times of recession, it’s difficult for people in the U.K. to justify spending money on a small population on the other end of the world,” says Andrea Clausen, a Falklander who owns a bus company. “But as long as Argentina claims the Falklands in its constitution, the threat won’t go away.”
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,019
@previous (Syntax)
... How is that a tough one? Logically, Alaska should be Canadian. And the pipeline through BC and the oil sands are incredibly controversial, don't be dense.
... How is that a tough one? Logically, Alaska should be Canadian. And the pipeline through BC and the oil sands are incredibly controversial, don't be dense.
Anonymous H double-posted this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,021
@419,016 (Syntax)
Argentina just wants the Falklands for revenue. The Falklands don't want to be Argentinian. I don't see what's so confusing.
Argentina just wants the Falklands for revenue. The Falklands don't want to be Argentinian. I don't see what's so confusing.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,022
@419,016 (Syntax)
So you're saying that Argentina is mostly interested in them for the oil? Wow, thanks for raising that point. Obviously they have an ulterior motive.
> No proper reason to hold on.
...Apart from all of the British citizens living there.
So you're saying that Argentina is mostly interested in them for the oil? Wow, thanks for raising that point. Obviously they have an ulterior motive.
> No proper reason to hold on.
...Apart from all of the British citizens living there.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,025
@419,019 (H)No clue why you think Alaska should be canucks? We bought the joint with cash from Russia. There was a tyme when Siberia n Alaska were connected.
If Canada wanted it they probably could have bought it as well from Russia.
@419,021 (H)
You may be correct EXCEPT back during the first war in the 80's Argentina had no clue there was any oil below the Falklands.
> The Falklands don't want to be Argentinian. I don't see what's so confusing.
3000 People implanted by origins of Brits and now ancestors vote British. Not confusing.
So how does the Mainland of British Empire 10,000 miles away justify holding on to land they only own by War Powers? YES I No its them with the bigger guns win. Does not make it rite.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,027
@previous (Syntax)
> 3000 People implanted by origins of Brits and now ancestors vote British.
How are their ancestors voting? I don't think that you can vote from beyond the grave, Syntax.
> So how does the Mainland of British Empire 10,000 miles away justify holding on to land they only own by War Powers?
Becuase they have citizens there and Argentina does not have a legitimate claim to the land. This has been explained to you over and over again.
> 3000 People implanted by origins of Brits and now ancestors vote British.
How are their ancestors voting? I don't think that you can vote from beyond the grave, Syntax.
> So how does the Mainland of British Empire 10,000 miles away justify holding on to land they only own by War Powers?
Becuase they have citizens there and Argentina does not have a legitimate claim to the land. This has been explained to you over and over again.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 37 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,028
@419,025 (Syntax)
Russia sold it because they feared the Brits would seize it. And Britain gave extra to the US, which is just annoying.
I don't see America voting British. Half the world is British somehow, most didn't want to stay that way. It's not war powers if the people vote to stay British, that's a fucking vote.
If anything, the Falklands should just be independent.
Russia sold it because they feared the Brits would seize it. And Britain gave extra to the US, which is just annoying.
I don't see America voting British. Half the world is British somehow, most didn't want to stay that way. It's not war powers if the people vote to stay British, that's a fucking vote.
If anything, the Falklands should just be independent.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,029
@previous (H)
> If anything, the Falklands should just be independent.
Some Falklanders do want this, IIRC. But hopefully Argentina wouldn't do anything shady if the Falklands were to be left alone. I could see them getting more aggressive in their attempts to steal the island if it wasn't an explicit action against Britain.
But then, I guess we could leave them with some sort of gurantee that we'd protect them from that sort of thing.
> If anything, the Falklands should just be independent.
Some Falklanders do want this, IIRC. But hopefully Argentina wouldn't do anything shady if the Falklands were to be left alone. I could see them getting more aggressive in their attempts to steal the island if it wasn't an explicit action against Britain.
But then, I guess we could leave them with some sort of gurantee that we'd protect them from that sort of thing.
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Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,036
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Argentina and Israel are really... bothering me with their land claims. It feels weird that a country can just lay claim to another country and get support.
Argentina and Israel are really... bothering me with their land claims. It feels weird that a country can just lay claim to another country and get support.
Anonymous F replied with this 13 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,048
@previous (H)
Does Argentina actually have any support, though? They're pretty much alone in this thing, I think.
But yes, Israel is disturbing. It's also disturbing how stronger, supposedly good countries are so supportive of it.
Does Argentina actually have any support, though? They're pretty much alone in this thing, I think.
But yes, Israel is disturbing. It's also disturbing how stronger, supposedly good countries are so supportive of it.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,053
@previous (F)
I don't know, I hope not. Just, fucking Israel.
http://972mag.com/nstt_feeditem/settlers-tear-gas-fired-on-palestinians-ruins-the-weekend/
That made me so angry.
I don't know, I hope not. Just, fucking Israel.
http://972mag.com/nstt_feeditem/settlers-tear-gas-fired-on-palestinians-ruins-the-weekend/
That made me so angry.
TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 38 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,054
@419,048 (F)
Some South American countries support Argentina, Chavez has even said Venezuelan troops would fight alongside the Argies in any fight over the Islands' sovereignty. I believe China have expressed support too.
Some South American countries support Argentina, Chavez has even said Venezuelan troops would fight alongside the Argies in any fight over the Islands' sovereignty. I believe China have expressed support too.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,057
@previous (TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs)
Declarations of military support are surprisingly easy to make when no actual military action will happen.
Do we have anybody firmly on our side, then? America's more or less with us, IIRC.
Declarations of military support are surprisingly easy to make when no actual military action will happen.
Do we have anybody firmly on our side, then? America's more or less with us, IIRC.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,060
@419,027 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)> How are their ancestors voting? I don't think that you can vote from beyond the grave, Syntax
Yea that makes no sense Unless U flip it 180 degrees. Current Brits on Islands have their Cup of Tea as U do and probably have great Fish with Chips cause the Potato is native to Native Lands of South America.
Your Argument re THEY HAVE Citizens there 3000? Hummmmmmmm Well wood you care to take a guess of number of Brits well in excess of that number living in FORMER Brit Empire Lands?
How about Jamaica or Uganda or Rhodesia or Kenya or India or Egypt or Pakistan, Bangladesh or hummmm not long ago Singapore hummmmmmm Why give up Singapore??? Lots of Brits and how long ago did they give up on Hong Kong?
Say about Islands owned as not proper Barbados Belize Bermuda -
So currently 3000 Brits on Falklands are under Brits umbrella yet for some reason Brits let go of far far far far more Brit Citizens.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,061
@previous (Syntax)
That has nothing to do with the Falklands. Every time you debate this, you try to drag it off to unrelated issues.
That has nothing to do with the Falklands. Every time you debate this, you try to drag it off to unrelated issues.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,063
TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,065
@419,057 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> Do we have anybody firmly on our side, then?
I think France, or at least French politicians, as during the Falklands War.
> America's more or less with us, IIRC.
"The United States recognizes de facto UK administration of the islands, but takes no position on the question of the parties’ sovereignty claims thereto. We support cooperation between UK and Argentina on practical matters, and we continue to urge a peaceful resolution of that critical issue." - John Kerry
> Do we have anybody firmly on our side, then?
I think France, or at least French politicians, as during the Falklands War.
> America's more or less with us, IIRC.
"The United States recognizes de facto UK administration of the islands, but takes no position on the question of the parties’ sovereignty claims thereto. We support cooperation between UK and Argentina on practical matters, and we continue to urge a peaceful resolution of that critical issue." - John Kerry
Anonymous D replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,067
@419,061 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
It's kind of amusing though. He keeps saying the UK wants to keep the Falklands while bringing up all the areas they have let go. I've never seen someone try to support a point entirely with counter-examples before. Each post is like a neatly wrapped, self-refuting package.
It's kind of amusing though. He keeps saying the UK wants to keep the Falklands while bringing up all the areas they have let go. I've never seen someone try to support a point entirely with counter-examples before. Each post is like a neatly wrapped, self-refuting package.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 7 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,068
@419,061 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
EXCUSE ME
That map is related. With few exceptions Brits are Gone gone gone from where they should not b.
1997 for Hong Kong was most recently where Brits living there had a choice of leaving or staying. So much money to be made even under China Rule THEY Stayed. Wood b the same for Falklands and you damn well No that is true.
The rule is follow the money. TTEH makes a good point. But instead of Venezuelan Troops it will be Venezuelan oil drillers doing the Horizontal bop and sucking all that oil out of wot Brits want nor can they do a thing about it.
Brits could blow up the oil rigs of course but then they wood have local true owners blowing up Brit rigs. This will play out where one day just as the map has changed in the past as Brit Empire shrinks like a used condom, Falklands will be free of Brit Rule.
EXCUSE ME
That map is related. With few exceptions Brits are Gone gone gone from where they should not b.
1997 for Hong Kong was most recently where Brits living there had a choice of leaving or staying. So much money to be made even under China Rule THEY Stayed. Wood b the same for Falklands and you damn well No that is true.
The rule is follow the money. TTEH makes a good point. But instead of Venezuelan Troops it will be Venezuelan oil drillers doing the Horizontal bop and sucking all that oil out of wot Brits want nor can they do a thing about it.
Brits could blow up the oil rigs of course but then they wood have local true owners blowing up Brit rigs. This will play out where one day just as the map has changed in the past as Brit Empire shrinks like a used condom, Falklands will be free of Brit Rule.
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Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,072
@previous (Syntax)
Why would people leave the Falklands? They have homes there.
It's not like British people left the US.
Why would people leave the Falklands? They have homes there.
It's not like British people left the US.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 19 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,084
@previous (H)
Exactly
Brits for the most part did not leave Hong Kong. Brits however have a lot of people as immigrants from former colonies and its not working out so well for them.
Killer Lettuce must be thrilled at the backfire.
Exactly
Brits for the most part did not leave Hong Kong. Brits however have a lot of people as immigrants from former colonies and its not working out so well for them.
Killer Lettuce must be thrilled at the backfire.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,086
@previous (Syntax)
u wot
Most of the "problem" immigrants are coming from countries that Britain didn't colonize.
u wot
Most of the "problem" immigrants are coming from countries that Britain didn't colonize.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,088
@419,084 (Syntax)
These citizens, however, have explicitly chosen not to leave and to remain British in a democratic vote. It's really nothing like Hong Kong.
And immigration into our country has nothing to do with the issue. It's like you've got ADD or something. I've never seen you debate this issue without you continually losing sight of the topic and jusy talking about unrelated stuff.
These citizens, however, have explicitly chosen not to leave and to remain British in a democratic vote. It's really nothing like Hong Kong.
And immigration into our country has nothing to do with the issue. It's like you've got ADD or something. I've never seen you debate this issue without you continually losing sight of the topic and jusy talking about unrelated stuff.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,098
@419,086 (H)
This does not address Where they came from
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jan/13/immigration-british-society-biggest-problem
This compares Poles to Paki's in huge numbers
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22339080
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3549/britain-immigration
The census data also showed that Islam is by far the fastest growing religion in Britain. The Muslim population in England and Wales increased by 80% (1.2 million), from 1.5 million in 2001 to 2.7 million in 2011, making it the second-largest religion in Britain.
And of course it is this group WE in the USA keep hearing about in the News re Troubles
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Yea and when Brits give in one day soon those Falkland citizens will be just as happy as Argentinian citizens. Well of course they still can be Expat Brits.
This does not address Where they came from
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jan/13/immigration-british-society-biggest-problem
This compares Poles to Paki's in huge numbers
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22339080
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3549/britain-immigration
The census data also showed that Islam is by far the fastest growing religion in Britain. The Muslim population in England and Wales increased by 80% (1.2 million), from 1.5 million in 2001 to 2.7 million in 2011, making it the second-largest religion in Britain.
And of course it is this group WE in the USA keep hearing about in the News re Troubles
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Yea and when Brits give in one day soon those Falkland citizens will be just as happy as Argentinian citizens. Well of course they still can be Expat Brits.
Anonymous F replied with this 13 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,099
@previous (Syntax)
They recently voted to remain British. They've said that they don't want to be Argentinian. Why would the be happy as Argentinian citizens?
They recently voted to remain British. They've said that they don't want to be Argentinian. Why would the be happy as Argentinian citizens?
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,100
@419,098 (Syntax)
Islam is a largely middle-eastern religion. Not so much India, although it is growing there.
Islam is a largely middle-eastern religion. Not so much India, although it is growing there.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,101
@419,099 (F)
> Why would the be happy as Argentinian citizens?
Probably they wood not become Argentinian citizens. They wood remain Brits living n working n paying taxes to Argentina.
@previous (H)
I put that reference up re Paki's being a huge influx and they are Islam.
> Why would the be happy as Argentinian citizens?
Probably they wood not become Argentinian citizens. They wood remain Brits living n working n paying taxes to Argentina.
@previous (H)
I put that reference up re Paki's being a huge influx and they are Islam.
Dead !Pool..v42s joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,102
This thread is SUPER on topic
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,104
@previous (Dead !Pool..v42s)
Today's weather feels like Florida.
Good point. Let me move it back to weather. Not so good in Midwest again 2Day.
I am holding out for hope Marine layer flows in cause its 2 damn hot in full sun for my 10 mile run. If I have 2 I have 2 but its just full sun here with hit of a touch of one low hanging hint of marine layer.
Today's weather feels like Florida.
Good point. Let me move it back to weather. Not so good in Midwest again 2Day.
I am holding out for hope Marine layer flows in cause its 2 damn hot in full sun for my 10 mile run. If I have 2 I have 2 but its just full sun here with hit of a touch of one low hanging hint of marine layer.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,106
@419,101 (Syntax)And they want to be British. Argentina has no claim to the Falklands. If anything, the Falklands should be independent. But they want to be British.
Pakistan wasn't even in existence during the British empire. So there goes that. Indian Muslims wanted their own country.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,107
@previous (H)
Yea one example of Brits drawing new border lines far removed from where they should have been.
Yea one example of Brits drawing new border lines far removed from where they should have been.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,108
@previous (Syntax)
wat
Britain had nothing to do with Pakistan, don't be stupid. Indian Muslims wanted their own country for whatever reason and made it.
Britain had ended its rule over India by then.
wat
Britain had nothing to do with Pakistan, don't be stupid. Indian Muslims wanted their own country for whatever reason and made it.
Britain had ended its rule over India by then.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,110
@previous (H)
Getting ready to roll out for my daily 10 so let me rip this off from wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan#Independence_and_Modern_Pakistan
The gradual decline of the Mughal Empire in the early eighteenth century enabled Sikh rulers to control large areas until the British East India Company gained ascendancy over South Asia.[35] The Indian Rebellion of 1857, also known as the Sepoy Mutiny, was the region's major armed struggle against the British.[1] The largely non-violent freedom struggle led by the Indian National Congress engaged millions of protesters in mass campaigns of civil disobedience in the 1920s and 1930s.[36][37]
The All-India Muslim League rose to popularity in the late 1930s amid fears of under-representation and neglect of Muslims in politics. In his presidential address of 29 December 1930, Muhammad Iqbal called for "the formation of a consolidated North-West Indian Muslim State" consisting of Punjab, North-West Frontier Province, Sind and Baluchistan.[38] Muhammad Ali Jinnah, the founder of Pakistan, espoused the two-nation theory and led the Muslim League to adopt the Lahore Resolution of 1940, popularly known as the Pakistan Resolution.[35] In early 1947, Britain announced the decision to end its rule in India. In June 1947, the nationalist leaders of British India—including Jawaharlal Nehru and Abul Kalam Azad representing the Congress, Jinnah representing the Muslim League, and Master Tara Singh representing the Sikhs—agreed to the proposed terms of transfer of power and independence.[39]
The modern state of Pakistan was established on 14 August 1947 (27 Ramadan 1366 in the Islamic Calendar) in the eastern and northwestern regions of British India, where there was a Muslim majority. It comprised the provinces of Balochistan, East Bengal, the North-West Frontier Province, West Punjab and Sindh.[35][39] The partition of the Punjab and Bengal provinces led to communal riots across India and Pakistan; millions of Muslims moved to Pakistan and millions of Hindus and Sikhs moved to India.[40] Dispute over Jammu and Kashmir led to the First Kashmir War.[41][42]
Getting ready to roll out for my daily 10 so let me rip this off from wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan#Independence_and_Modern_Pakistan
The gradual decline of the Mughal Empire in the early eighteenth century enabled Sikh rulers to control large areas until the British East India Company gained ascendancy over South Asia.[35] The Indian Rebellion of 1857, also known as the Sepoy Mutiny, was the region's major armed struggle against the British.[1] The largely non-violent freedom struggle led by the Indian National Congress engaged millions of protesters in mass campaigns of civil disobedience in the 1920s and 1930s.[36][37]
The All-India Muslim League rose to popularity in the late 1930s amid fears of under-representation and neglect of Muslims in politics. In his presidential address of 29 December 1930, Muhammad Iqbal called for "the formation of a consolidated North-West Indian Muslim State" consisting of Punjab, North-West Frontier Province, Sind and Baluchistan.[38] Muhammad Ali Jinnah, the founder of Pakistan, espoused the two-nation theory and led the Muslim League to adopt the Lahore Resolution of 1940, popularly known as the Pakistan Resolution.[35] In early 1947, Britain announced the decision to end its rule in India. In June 1947, the nationalist leaders of British India—including Jawaharlal Nehru and Abul Kalam Azad representing the Congress, Jinnah representing the Muslim League, and Master Tara Singh representing the Sikhs—agreed to the proposed terms of transfer of power and independence.[39]
The modern state of Pakistan was established on 14 August 1947 (27 Ramadan 1366 in the Islamic Calendar) in the eastern and northwestern regions of British India, where there was a Muslim majority. It comprised the provinces of Balochistan, East Bengal, the North-West Frontier Province, West Punjab and Sindh.[35][39] The partition of the Punjab and Bengal provinces led to communal riots across India and Pakistan; millions of Muslims moved to Pakistan and millions of Hindus and Sikhs moved to India.[40] Dispute over Jammu and Kashmir led to the First Kashmir War.[41][42]
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,112
@previous (Syntax)
So Pakistan made its own country. Britain had nothing to do with it. Thanks for proving my point.
So Pakistan made its own country. Britain had nothing to do with it. Thanks for proving my point.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,113
@previous (H)
Ah I figured you wood only read wot I posted n not the link n read on -
So how does this Queen of now Independent Pakistan work out for you?
After independence, the President of the Muslim League, Mohammed Ali Jinnah, became the new nation's first Governor-General, and the Secretary General of the Muslim League, Nawabzada Liaquat Ali Khan became the first Prime Minister. From 1947 to 1956, Pakistan was a dominion in the Commonwealth of Nations under two monarchs.[43] In 1947, King George VI relinquished the title of Emperor of India and became King of Pakistan. He retained that title until his death on 6 February 1952,
after which Queen Elizabeth II became Queen of Pakistan.[43] She retained that title until Pakistan became an Islamic and Parliamentary republic in 1956,[44] but civilian rule was stalled by a military coup led by the Army Commander-in-Chief, General Ayub Khan. The country experienced exceptional growth until a second war with India took place in 1965 and led to economic downfall and internal instability.
Ah I figured you wood only read wot I posted n not the link n read on -
So how does this Queen of now Independent Pakistan work out for you?
After independence, the President of the Muslim League, Mohammed Ali Jinnah, became the new nation's first Governor-General, and the Secretary General of the Muslim League, Nawabzada Liaquat Ali Khan became the first Prime Minister. From 1947 to 1956, Pakistan was a dominion in the Commonwealth of Nations under two monarchs.[43] In 1947, King George VI relinquished the title of Emperor of India and became King of Pakistan. He retained that title until his death on 6 February 1952,
after which Queen Elizabeth II became Queen of Pakistan.[43] She retained that title until Pakistan became an Islamic and Parliamentary republic in 1956,[44] but civilian rule was stalled by a military coup led by the Army Commander-in-Chief, General Ayub Khan. The country experienced exceptional growth until a second war with India took place in 1965 and led to economic downfall and internal instability.
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Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #419,114
@previous (Syntax)
Queen Elizabeth II is also queen of Canada. It's still independent. It's a title.
Queen Elizabeth II is also queen of Canada. It's still independent. It's a title.