Topic: Questions about tulpas
Anonymous A started this discussion 13 years ago #27,849
Ask them here.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 13 minutes later[^] [v] #414,748
Do they prefer Coke or Pepsi?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 31 minutes later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #414,749
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 3 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #414,765
I prefer playing with succubi
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 7 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #414,834
Tulpas are a really creepy concept in my opinion. Even if nothing goes wrong its still a forced hallucination that you cant just get rid of. All the talk about tulpa personalities, likes and dislikes, etc. Its just so eerie to me. That being said if I was ever put in isolation I would start making them.
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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 31 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #414,838
@previous (D)
From what I've read, they're fairly simple to get rid of. The "standard procedure" is to just ignore them until they go away.
That said, that might not necessarily be an easy thing to do.
From what I've read, they're fairly simple to get rid of. The "standard procedure" is to just ignore them until they go away.
That said, that might not necessarily be an easy thing to do.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 8 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #414,955
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 40 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #414,959
chalupas
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #414,989
@414,838 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Why would you want to get rid of them?? It's like having a company of friends with you all the time. I guess if they became annoying you could just shut them out. Honestly, it's more of a blessing than a curse.
Why would you want to get rid of them?? It's like having a company of friends with you all the time. I guess if they became annoying you could just shut them out. Honestly, it's more of a blessing than a curse.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 58 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #414,997
@previous (A)
> company of friends
Which reminds me, have you seen r04r's tulpas? Each one has an intricate and elaborate backstory, and a fake app company has even been built around them. It's amazing. Such commitment.
> company of friends
Which reminds me, have you seen r04r's tulpas? Each one has an intricate and elaborate backstory, and a fake app company has even been built around them. It's amazing. Such commitment.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #414,999
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #415,008
@414,989 (A)
Oh, you have some?
Would you mind telling us a little about them?
And yeah, I can see where you're coming from. I can understand how they'd appeal to some people. But, apparently, in a few cases it doesn't work out quite so well.
Oh, you have some?
Would you mind telling us a little about them?
And yeah, I can see where you're coming from. I can understand how they'd appeal to some people. But, apparently, in a few cases it doesn't work out quite so well.
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Anonymous D replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #415,026
@414,989 (A)
I think youd have to be really stable minded. My tulpa would come out a mess because my subconscious is a mess. Also, I dont want some hallucination watching me take a shit.
I think youd have to be really stable minded. My tulpa would come out a mess because my subconscious is a mess. Also, I dont want some hallucination watching me take a shit.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #415,028
@previous (D)
Some of them say that they just "let the tulpa go and do its own thing" when they want privacy, so it's not paying attention to them.
But yeah, it would be creepy as fuck having another entity (even if it's essentially just imaginary) being able to see you at all times.
Some of them say that they just "let the tulpa go and do its own thing" when they want privacy, so it's not paying attention to them.
But yeah, it would be creepy as fuck having another entity (even if it's essentially just imaginary) being able to see you at all times.
Shaniqua (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 19 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #415,309
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> it would be creepy as fuck having another entity being able to see you at all times.
But it's you. It's not someone totally other. It's like being on a road trip. You just take turns at the wheel, and everyone else is the backseat driver shouting directions. Sure, someone might give you shit about how you're driving, but everyone realizes that everyone else is ultimately in the same boat. (the same body?) You find yourself talking to yourself a lot and using "we" instead of "I" as if "you" are a gang of people taking turns at the wheel. Eventually you just let each one take their turn at the wheel whenever they're needed. It's kind of fun.
disclaimer: I did a lot of acid in college, so maybe what I am experiencing isn't what you would imagine as truly tulpas; maybe I'm just fucking nuts.
> it would be creepy as fuck having another entity being able to see you at all times.
But it's you. It's not someone totally other. It's like being on a road trip. You just take turns at the wheel, and everyone else is the backseat driver shouting directions. Sure, someone might give you shit about how you're driving, but everyone realizes that everyone else is ultimately in the same boat. (the same body?) You find yourself talking to yourself a lot and using "we" instead of "I" as if "you" are a gang of people taking turns at the wheel. Eventually you just let each one take their turn at the wheel whenever they're needed. It's kind of fun.
disclaimer: I did a lot of acid in college, so maybe what I am experiencing isn't what you would imagine as truly tulpas; maybe I'm just fucking nuts.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #415,310
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 4 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,342
@415,309 (Shaniqua)
Hmmm. Most people I've seen describe it more like a seperate consciousness in their body. But I guess it varies.
> I did a lot of acid in college
Some of them believe that drug use helps with tulpa creation, so you might not be especially unusual as tulpa creators go.
So could you say a little bit about what your tulpas are like? I'd really like to hear about them.
Hmmm. Most people I've seen describe it more like a seperate consciousness in their body. But I guess it varies.
> I did a lot of acid in college
Some of them believe that drug use helps with tulpa creation, so you might not be especially unusual as tulpa creators go.
So could you say a little bit about what your tulpas are like? I'd really like to hear about them.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 18 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,569
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> Most people I've seen describe it more like a separate consciousness in their body.
It is. These things have separate ideas and and trains of thought. (sort of... if you have ever had a close friend and "known" what they are thinking, it's sort of like that) It's just that you isn't really a concept that means much when several people inhabit it. No one is watching "you" do anything, they're just watching you turn the wheel.
> So could you say a little bit about what your tulpas are like?
The most interesting one, I think, was one that took up Freud after I started reading a lot of Freud. Oh fuck, every goddamn movie/novel/story/whatever I heard about, I couldn't do it without a voice in the back of my head screaming out some psychodynamic interpretation of the plot. Fun times.
BTW: Psychodynamic interpretations of literature are fucking hilarious. I highly recommend you read them/make your own/just sit back and make dick jokes/whatever even if you think psychodynamic criticism is complete shit. If you're an English major, then you might even work you way into getting paid for doing so.
> Most people I've seen describe it more like a separate consciousness in their body.
It is. These things have separate ideas and and trains of thought. (sort of... if you have ever had a close friend and "known" what they are thinking, it's sort of like that) It's just that you isn't really a concept that means much when several people inhabit it. No one is watching "you" do anything, they're just watching you turn the wheel.
> So could you say a little bit about what your tulpas are like?
The most interesting one, I think, was one that took up Freud after I started reading a lot of Freud. Oh fuck, every goddamn movie/novel/story/whatever I heard about, I couldn't do it without a voice in the back of my head screaming out some psychodynamic interpretation of the plot. Fun times.
BTW: Psychodynamic interpretations of literature are fucking hilarious. I highly recommend you read them/make your own/just sit back and make dick jokes/whatever even if you think psychodynamic criticism is complete shit. If you're an English major, then you might even work you way into getting paid for doing so.
squeegee !first/o5zA joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,571
does it count that my internal voice is that of a soothing proper british lady? too a lot of concentration to replace my own internal voice with that of "Vanessa."
I love when she reads to me :)
I love when she reads to me :)
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 3 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,575
@415,569 (A)
I'm a psychology student, so I'm very familiar with the psychodynamic approach's weirdness. :')
@previous (squeegee !first/o5zA)
Not unless she's autonomous, no. Sounds like you're just changing how you internal voice sounds.
Cool trick, though!
I'm a psychology student, so I'm very familiar with the psychodynamic approach's weirdness. :')
@previous (squeegee !first/o5zA)
Not unless she's autonomous, no. Sounds like you're just changing how you internal voice sounds.
Cool trick, though!
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Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 45 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,579
@415,309 (Shaniqua)
So what will you say when one day they take over the wheel and you've murdered everyone you love?
So what will you say when one day they take over the wheel and you've murdered everyone you love?
Anonymous G replied with this 13 years ago, 12 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,580
@415,575 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
So are you in Uni now or college or what? (If you don't mind me asking.)
So are you in Uni now or college or what? (If you don't mind me asking.)
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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,581
squeegee !first/o5zA replied with this 13 years ago, 8 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,637
@415,575 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)yes, but just imagine doing something wrong, and having to take a pause before the next thought to close your eyes and take a breath because in a moment a lovely young british lady is going to say, "that is the stupidest thing you've ever done in your life you worthless twat," in a thick cockney accent. (she gets all gutter when she's surly, it's adorable)
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 3 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,669
@previous (squeegee !first/o5zA)
So you see her as a sort of "character"? How long have you been imagining her for?
So you see her as a sort of "character"? How long have you been imagining her for?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 9 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,711
@415,579 (I)
> So what will you say when one day they take over the wheel and you've murdered everyone you love?
I don't think that's likely.
It's not like you are passed out and unaware of things that are going on when someone else is talking for you, it's more like you are using words that someone else (you trust) is feeding you. It's not some weird multiple personality type thing. It's kinda cool, actually. Maybe the "road trip" metaphor holds here: you are watching from the background, but it's not like you can't jerk the wheel if someone says or does something something stupid.
> @415,575 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> I'm a psychology student
Nice. I did that too. What interested you in psychology?
> So what will you say when one day they take over the wheel and you've murdered everyone you love?
I don't think that's likely.
It's not like you are passed out and unaware of things that are going on when someone else is talking for you, it's more like you are using words that someone else (you trust) is feeding you. It's not some weird multiple personality type thing. It's kinda cool, actually. Maybe the "road trip" metaphor holds here: you are watching from the background, but it's not like you can't jerk the wheel if someone says or does something something stupid.
> @415,575 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> I'm a psychology student
Nice. I did that too. What interested you in psychology?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 14 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,712
@previous (A)
Most of it! If I had to pick some favourite things, I guess I'd say social psychology and the use of psychology to help people. But really, most of the studies and theories are really interesting.
Out of interest, how long did it take you to create your tulpas? Did it get quicker as you made more?
Most of it! If I had to pick some favourite things, I guess I'd say social psychology and the use of psychology to help people. But really, most of the studies and theories are really interesting.
Out of interest, how long did it take you to create your tulpas? Did it get quicker as you made more?
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,713
@415,711 (A)
Honestly it just sounds a whole lot like schizophrenia, which is not something that sounds desirable.
Honestly it just sounds a whole lot like schizophrenia, which is not something that sounds desirable.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,715
@previous (I)
I know it sounds that way, but the distinction is that these people seem able to differentiate between the hallucinations and reality. They also impose,d and to a degree can control and shape, said hallucinations themselves and didn't have them forced upon them.
Also, the "desirable" part usually comes from a desire to alleviate loneliness or simple curiosity.
I know it sounds that way, but the distinction is that these people seem able to differentiate between the hallucinations and reality. They also impose,d and to a degree can control and shape, said hallucinations themselves and didn't have them forced upon them.
Also, the "desirable" part usually comes from a desire to alleviate loneliness or simple curiosity.
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Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,718
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I get that, but to me it seems like that hallucinations are not a good thing and that the control you mentioned can easily falter.
I get that, but to me it seems like that hallucinations are not a good thing and that the control you mentioned can easily falter.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,719
@415,712 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> Most of it! If I had to pick some favourite things, I guess I'd say social psychology and the use of psychology to help people.
That's interesting. Social psych. is something I could never get into. (despite having an awesome professor) Do you plan to do counseling? Industrial psych? Just interested in it and feel like doing something else?
> Out of interest, how long did it take you to create your tulpas? Did it get quicker as you made more?
Umm... They've always sort of been there, but I don't know that I've always been aware of them speaking so loudly. For a while I assumed everyone's 'internal monologue' was sort of similar. High school/college was about the time I figured out that other people weren't quite as 'introspective' as I was. Talking to 'myself' has been something that I always thought was pretty normal. I gradually learned that other people don't do that as much.
> Most of it! If I had to pick some favourite things, I guess I'd say social psychology and the use of psychology to help people.
That's interesting. Social psych. is something I could never get into. (despite having an awesome professor) Do you plan to do counseling? Industrial psych? Just interested in it and feel like doing something else?
> Out of interest, how long did it take you to create your tulpas? Did it get quicker as you made more?
Umm... They've always sort of been there, but I don't know that I've always been aware of them speaking so loudly. For a while I assumed everyone's 'internal monologue' was sort of similar. High school/college was about the time I figured out that other people weren't quite as 'introspective' as I was. Talking to 'myself' has been something that I always thought was pretty normal. I gradually learned that other people don't do that as much.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,720
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 59 seconds later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,721
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,723
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,724
@previous (A)
> Schizophrenia (/ˌskɪtsɵˈfrɛniə/ or /ˌskɪtsɵˈfriːniə/) is a mental disorder characterized by a breakdown of thought processes and by a deficit of typical emotional responses.[1] Common symptoms include auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking, and it is accompanied by significant social or occupational dysfunction. The onset of symptoms typically occurs in young adulthood, with a global lifetime prevalence of about 0.3–0.7%.[2] Diagnosis is based on observed behavior and the patient's reported experiences.
> Schizophrenia (/ˌskɪtsɵˈfrɛniə/ or /ˌskɪtsɵˈfriːniə/) is a mental disorder characterized by a breakdown of thought processes and by a deficit of typical emotional responses.[1] Common symptoms include auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking, and it is accompanied by significant social or occupational dysfunction. The onset of symptoms typically occurs in young adulthood, with a global lifetime prevalence of about 0.3–0.7%.[2] Diagnosis is based on observed behavior and the patient's reported experiences.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,725
@previous (I)
> common symptoms include:
> auditory hallucinations
nope, sorry
> paranoid or bizarre delusions
lolno
> disorganized speech and thinking
no, sorry
> is accompanied by significant social or occupational dysfunction
lolno
> common symptoms include:
> auditory hallucinations
nope, sorry
> paranoid or bizarre delusions
lolno
> disorganized speech and thinking
no, sorry
> is accompanied by significant social or occupational dysfunction
lolno
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 36 seconds later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,726
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,727
@415,718 (I)
From what I've seen, it's not so much about "control". Most creators view them as a separate consciousness they've got in their head. Sure they made them, but actively controlling them is often viewed as not having a "true" tulpa.
The vast majority of creators I've seen co-exist peacefully with their tulpas no problem. Issues only seem to arise in individuals who have other issues anyway. For example, one guy who had tulpas that disliked him was a fairly unstable guy who was on various pills.
From what I've seen, it's not so much about "control". Most creators view them as a separate consciousness they've got in their head. Sure they made them, but actively controlling them is often viewed as not having a "true" tulpa.
The vast majority of creators I've seen co-exist peacefully with their tulpas no problem. Issues only seem to arise in individuals who have other issues anyway. For example, one guy who had tulpas that disliked him was a fairly unstable guy who was on various pills.
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,728
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
The tulpas exist within their head, so on one level or another they control them completely. I suppose they'd still control them once that part of them turns against themselves, but who knows. Freaky stuff.
The tulpas exist within their head, so on one level or another they control them completely. I suppose they'd still control them once that part of them turns against themselves, but who knows. Freaky stuff.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,729
@415,719 (A)
> That's interesting. Social psych. is something I could never get into. (despite having an awesome professor) Do you plan to do counseling? Industrial psych? Just interested in it and feel like doing something else?
Something like that, yeah. The ultimate goal is to get into clinical psychology, but counselling would be interesting too. I might also go to work experience with my aunt who works with people who have had strokes. Psychologists work with them to help them recover.
> Umm... They've always sort of been there, but I don't know that I've always been aware of them speaking so loudly. For a while I assumed everyone's 'internal monologue' was sort of similar. High school/college was about the time I figured out that other people weren't quite as 'introspective' as I was. Talking to 'myself' has been something that I always thought was pretty normal. I gradually learned that other people don't do that as much.
Interesting. That's fairly common, you know. Quite a few people came to the tulpa community I was lurking saying that they'd always had something like a tulpa, and had just never had a name for it. It's surprisingly common for something you'd think would need special training to do.
@415,724 (I)
> characterized by a breakdown of thought processes and by a deficit of typical emotional responses
Doesn't seem to be the case.
> or disorganized speech and thinking
Haven't seen this.
> significant social or occupational dysfunction
Some creators report little effect on social lives, and those that do say it's fairly minor.
> The onset of symptoms typically occurs in young adulthood
You can't really make this comparison. Tulpas are created willingly and kmowlingly, schizophrenia is not. Also, tulpa creators are younger because most channers/Internet users are younger. It's not caused by the same factors as Schizophrenia.
> paranoid
I've seen no cases of this.
@415,726 (I)
I haven't seen any creators reporting damage to social or work lives.
> That's interesting. Social psych. is something I could never get into. (despite having an awesome professor) Do you plan to do counseling? Industrial psych? Just interested in it and feel like doing something else?
Something like that, yeah. The ultimate goal is to get into clinical psychology, but counselling would be interesting too. I might also go to work experience with my aunt who works with people who have had strokes. Psychologists work with them to help them recover.
> Umm... They've always sort of been there, but I don't know that I've always been aware of them speaking so loudly. For a while I assumed everyone's 'internal monologue' was sort of similar. High school/college was about the time I figured out that other people weren't quite as 'introspective' as I was. Talking to 'myself' has been something that I always thought was pretty normal. I gradually learned that other people don't do that as much.
Interesting. That's fairly common, you know. Quite a few people came to the tulpa community I was lurking saying that they'd always had something like a tulpa, and had just never had a name for it. It's surprisingly common for something you'd think would need special training to do.
@415,724 (I)
> characterized by a breakdown of thought processes and by a deficit of typical emotional responses
Doesn't seem to be the case.
> or disorganized speech and thinking
Haven't seen this.
> significant social or occupational dysfunction
Some creators report little effect on social lives, and those that do say it's fairly minor.
> The onset of symptoms typically occurs in young adulthood
You can't really make this comparison. Tulpas are created willingly and kmowlingly, schizophrenia is not. Also, tulpa creators are younger because most channers/Internet users are younger. It's not caused by the same factors as Schizophrenia.
> paranoid
I've seen no cases of this.
@415,726 (I)
I haven't seen any creators reporting damage to social or work lives.
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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx double-posted this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,730
@415,728 (I)
Yes, this is true. But that's what makes this so interesting, a key part of it appears to be "fooling" the brain into thinking there's another mind up there, and eventually that illusion becomes quite realistic, and a person feels like it's another consciousness that they can't control. They might be able to exert control if they really tried, and believed that they could, though. But most don't, I think, out of fear that it would sour relations with the tulpa.
The mind can be such an abstract thing, it really is a difficult concept to pin down and really define completely properly.
Yes, this is true. But that's what makes this so interesting, a key part of it appears to be "fooling" the brain into thinking there's another mind up there, and eventually that illusion becomes quite realistic, and a person feels like it's another consciousness that they can't control. They might be able to exert control if they really tried, and believed that they could, though. But most don't, I think, out of fear that it would sour relations with the tulpa.
The mind can be such an abstract thing, it really is a difficult concept to pin down and really define completely properly.
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 52 seconds later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,731
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
So what about the other way? The tulpa consciousness attempting to take control of the host?
So what about the other way? The tulpa consciousness attempting to take control of the host?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 8 seconds later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,732
@415,726 (I)
herp-a-derp
@415727 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> Sure they made them, but actively controlling them is often viewed as not having a "true" tulpa.
Yeah, "control" isn't exactly an issue. It's more like someone you would let into your extended family.. and then only tenuously at first. It's not like these personalities aren't you in any sense.
BTW KL, What do you think about the idea the that the bio-medical model is outdated? I'm genuinely curious.
herp-a-derp
@415727 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> Sure they made them, but actively controlling them is often viewed as not having a "true" tulpa.
Yeah, "control" isn't exactly an issue. It's more like someone you would let into your extended family.. and then only tenuously at first. It's not like these personalities aren't you in any sense.
BTW KL, What do you think about the idea the that the bio-medical model is outdated? I'm genuinely curious.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #415,746
@415,731 (I)
There have been fears of it, but I haven't seen any cases of a tulpa forcibly taking control.
Though in relation to what you're saying, there is something called "switching", where, apparently, the tulpa temporarily takes control of a body part or even the whole body. I've even seen one individual who claims that he's switched with his tulpa on a permanent basis, with himself becoming the tulpa and vice-versa. It's okay to be a little freaked out by this aspect, by the way, I find it kinda disturbing myself.
But in answer to your question, from what I've seen, the creator must be willing in order for the tulpa to exert any control.
@previous (A)
> Yeah, "control" isn't exactly an issue. It's more like someone you would let into your extended family.. and then only tenuously at first. It's not like these personalities aren't you in any sense.
What's interesting is that I think we may be coming at it from slightly different angles. I'm imagining the more well-known version where a person must actively create and shape a tulpa, while you seem to be talking more about pre-existing ones. Correct me if I'm misinterpreting.
> It's not like these personalities aren't you in any sense.
Very true. I have seen a few creators report vast differences to their tulpas, though. For example, one atheist creator said that his tulpa was religious. Though these could just be deliberate attempts to make a distinct persona.
> BTW KL, What do you think about the idea the that the bio-medical model is outdated? I'm genuinely curious.
Just read up on it, and I'd say that it kinda is, just from the definition. It doesn't take a person's enviroment into account, which I'd say is needlessly reductionist and could lead to psychiatrists missing relevant data.
There have been fears of it, but I haven't seen any cases of a tulpa forcibly taking control.
Though in relation to what you're saying, there is something called "switching", where, apparently, the tulpa temporarily takes control of a body part or even the whole body. I've even seen one individual who claims that he's switched with his tulpa on a permanent basis, with himself becoming the tulpa and vice-versa. It's okay to be a little freaked out by this aspect, by the way, I find it kinda disturbing myself.
But in answer to your question, from what I've seen, the creator must be willing in order for the tulpa to exert any control.
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> Yeah, "control" isn't exactly an issue. It's more like someone you would let into your extended family.. and then only tenuously at first. It's not like these personalities aren't you in any sense.
What's interesting is that I think we may be coming at it from slightly different angles. I'm imagining the more well-known version where a person must actively create and shape a tulpa, while you seem to be talking more about pre-existing ones. Correct me if I'm misinterpreting.
> It's not like these personalities aren't you in any sense.
Very true. I have seen a few creators report vast differences to their tulpas, though. For example, one atheist creator said that his tulpa was religious. Though these could just be deliberate attempts to make a distinct persona.
> BTW KL, What do you think about the idea the that the bio-medical model is outdated? I'm genuinely curious.
Just read up on it, and I'd say that it kinda is, just from the definition. It doesn't take a person's enviroment into account, which I'd say is needlessly reductionist and could lead to psychiatrists missing relevant data.
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