Topic: Hitler on lying.
HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q started this discussion 13 years ago #27,680
Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.
Like the holocaust
Like the holocaust
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Meta !PARAdoxiHw joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later[^] [v] #413,236
That was Reich propaganda minister Dr. Goebbels you mora.
HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #413,237
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
> If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
He isn't incorrect.
> If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
He isn't incorrect.
squeegee joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 16 hours later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #413,327
@previous (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
Only if you build a state based on lies and violence. Otherwise he's totally wrong and sounds pretty foolish to be talking in such gross generalities.
Only if you build a state based on lies and violence. Otherwise he's totally wrong and sounds pretty foolish to be talking in such gross generalities.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 3 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #413,370
Are you seriously a Holocaust denier? Seriously?
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #413,372
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
This is what I like about Walt, he's such a versatile bigot. There's no minority that he can't find some way to offend.
This is what I like about Walt, he's such a versatile bigot. There's no minority that he can't find some way to offend.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 21 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #413,375
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #413,376
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
I'd like to think that they're just trolling, but we also play host to "obsessive stalker man" and "poop in hat guy", so a holocaust denier would depressingly believable around these parts.
I'd like to think that they're just trolling, but we also play host to "obsessive stalker man" and "poop in hat guy", so a holocaust denier would depressingly believable around these parts.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #413,377
@413,370 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
You say that like its a bad thing. Some of us dont believe everything we're told.
You say that like its a bad thing. Some of us dont believe everything we're told.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 29 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #413,385
kook !!32zdfdzi+ double-posted this 13 years ago, 57 seconds later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #413,386
@413,377 (F)
The people who believe this, do it because they are told to do so by poorly run, shoddy websites, with inaccurate information
The people who believe this, do it because they are told to do so by poorly run, shoddy websites, with inaccurate information
squeegee replied with this 13 years ago, 17 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #413,387
Conspiracy theorist's mindset
> I don't believe everything I'm told and and am sceptical of "facts."
> did you hear about 9/11? I read online it was the government. I'm not a journalist or a scientist of any kind so I didn't find these facts on my own, I found them on the web where I read them and vetted them unprofessionally.
> people are just sheep and believe anything the government "fact finders" say
See the disconnect? they don't
> I don't believe everything I'm told and and am sceptical of "facts."
> did you hear about 9/11? I read online it was the government. I'm not a journalist or a scientist of any kind so I didn't find these facts on my own, I found them on the web where I read them and vetted them unprofessionally.
> people are just sheep and believe anything the government "fact finders" say
See the disconnect? they don't
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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 21 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #413,390
squeegee !first/o5zA joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #413,391
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)i am skeptical of eye witnesses and injured victims. probably paid actors.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #413,393
@previous (squeegee !first/o5zA)
Yeah, yeah. You're right. I mean, they've kept their stories going for so long... And, uh, there's so many of them... Ah... Hmmm...
Shit. The government must have created robot replica people to pretend to be eyewitnesses. Only logical explanation.
Yeah, yeah. You're right. I mean, they've kept their stories going for so long... And, uh, there's so many of them... Ah... Hmmm...
Shit. The government must have created robot replica people to pretend to be eyewitnesses. Only logical explanation.
!KThEOwLwbU joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 11 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #413,397
@413,386 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
My 'favourite' claim is that the death camps were real, and killed people, but that it wasn't a genocide of jews.
My 'favourite' claim is that the death camps were real, and killed people, but that it wasn't a genocide of jews.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #413,398
@previous (!KThEOwLwbU)
They say that because Hitler never used the word genocide. Which is just a cute way of looking at things.
They say that because Hitler never used the word genocide. Which is just a cute way of looking at things.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #413,400
@413,397 (!KThEOwLwbU)
As mountainman has taught us, when logic and reason aren't on your side, you can still cling to semantics and technicalities to try to keep your argument going.
As mountainman has taught us, when logic and reason aren't on your side, you can still cling to semantics and technicalities to try to keep your argument going.