Topic: Transgender woman banned from Idaho grocery store for using women's bathroom
Anonymous A started this discussion 13 years ago #27,345
http://news.yahoo.com/transgender-woman-banned-idaho-grocery-store-181954807.htmlA transgender woman was banned from a western Idaho grocery store after customers complained she used the women's restroom, police in Lewiston said.
Alberto Robledo, 25, of Lewiston, identifies herself as female and goes by Ally. She was leaving a Rosauers store in Lewiston late on April 8 when police officers gave her paperwork informing her that she had a "no trespassing" order against her for using the women's restroom.
"They pretty much just came up and said, 'OK, you're not allowed at our store anymore,'" Robledo told the Lewiston Tribune.
Police Capt. Roger Lanier said some customers complained about a man using the women's restroom.
"The store employees didn't want any further problems, and they chose to exercise their right to trespass this individual from the business," Lanier told KLEW-TV. "Anyone who owns or controls their property can make that decision."
Robledo said she has used the women's restroom at the store on previous occasions without any problems because she looks and dresses like a woman.
According to the National Center for Lesbian Rights, 13 states, including Washington, protect transgender people from discrimination in public accommodations, but the definition of a "public accommodation" differs from state to state.
Alberto Robledo, 25, of Lewiston, identifies herself as female and goes by Ally. She was leaving a Rosauers store in Lewiston late on April 8 when police officers gave her paperwork informing her that she had a "no trespassing" order against her for using the women's restroom.
"They pretty much just came up and said, 'OK, you're not allowed at our store anymore,'" Robledo told the Lewiston Tribune.
Police Capt. Roger Lanier said some customers complained about a man using the women's restroom.
"The store employees didn't want any further problems, and they chose to exercise their right to trespass this individual from the business," Lanier told KLEW-TV. "Anyone who owns or controls their property can make that decision."
Robledo said she has used the women's restroom at the store on previous occasions without any problems because she looks and dresses like a woman.
According to the National Center for Lesbian Rights, 13 states, including Washington, protect transgender people from discrimination in public accommodations, but the definition of a "public accommodation" differs from state to state.
HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 28 minutes later[^] [v] #409,391
I'd ban her for those obnoxious sharpie eyebrows.
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Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 52 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #409,411
oh cool, i like reading about common sense into the news
Syntax joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #409,412
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #409,416
goddammit kook this topic was for you
squeegee !first/o5zA joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 18 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,423
> looks like a womanum...
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,431
Anonymous D replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,433
geez, even chris chan makes a better "woman" than this thing
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kook !!32zdfdzi+ joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,454
I would have to see the whole body, but that face screams drag queen.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 36 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,455
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 48 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,456
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,457
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,458
kook !!32zdfdzi+ double-posted this 13 years ago, 32 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,459
I identify as a kitty. They should let me stay overnight at the pet spa.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 9 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,576
Walter joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,578
Transexual controversies are the new paradigm.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 4 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,627
If you have a dick, pee in the men's room. Get over it.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 18 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,629
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Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,676
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
"They" is an interesting word. Are transexuals all an organised group? Do they all act the same?
"They" is an interesting word. Are transexuals all an organised group? Do they all act the same?
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,677
kook !!32zdfdzi+ double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,679
kook !!32zdfdzi+ triple-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,680
Hey op, if someone puts on makeup and a wig, does that make them a woman? Why or why not?
doctor superman md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 13 years ago, 36 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,681
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 10 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,682
kook !!32zdfdzi+ double-posted this 13 years ago, 36 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,683
@409,681 (doctor superman md !jdTkvovFCQ)
You could at least try! Also, they called that dude the green lantern, which is awesome.
You could at least try! Also, they called that dude the green lantern, which is awesome.
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,684
@409,677 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Okay, I may have been a tad harsh on you. You're not wrong to condemn the sex pests and the weirdos of them. Purely for their actions, though.
Would you agree that lots of transsexuals are just normal people (aside from the obvious) who would never do stuff like this?
Okay, I may have been a tad harsh on you. You're not wrong to condemn the sex pests and the weirdos of them. Purely for their actions, though.
Would you agree that lots of transsexuals are just normal people (aside from the obvious) who would never do stuff like this?
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,685
@previous (I)
I dont know if lots of them are "normal". What counts as normal? Calling your penis a female sex organ is not rational. Blaming women for the fact that men kill transwomen isnt rational either.
I dont know if lots of them are "normal". What counts as normal? Calling your penis a female sex organ is not rational. Blaming women for the fact that men kill transwomen isnt rational either.
doctor superman md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 13 years ago, 24 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,686
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 33 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,687
@409,679 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
We've been down this road before. Conclusion was:
- not all transsexuals are sex offenders. And it's quite simple to distinguish a legit person with GID and a sex pest
- Family bathrooms (I think that's what then were called) would be an ideal solution that would satisfy all parties.
We've been down this road before. Conclusion was:
- not all transsexuals are sex offenders. And it's quite simple to distinguish a legit person with GID and a sex pest
- Family bathrooms (I think that's what then were called) would be an ideal solution that would satisfy all parties.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 2 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,688
@409,680 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Any pervert dude could do just that. Put on wig and go in2 womans rest room. Claim they b woman n not man.
Here in San Diego the Trannies hang n live in area called Hillcrest (no hills) and the Trannies walk around with Hairy chests
I feel like stranger in a strange land.
Any pervert dude could do just that. Put on wig and go in2 womans rest room. Claim they b woman n not man.
Here in San Diego the Trannies hang n live in area called Hillcrest (no hills) and the Trannies walk around with Hairy chests
I feel like stranger in a strange land.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 15 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,689
@409,686 (doctor superman md !jdTkvovFCQ)
I've heard that. Was this man treated poorly by the new media?
I've heard that. Was this man treated poorly by the new media?
kook !!32zdfdzi+ double-posted this 13 years ago, 36 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,690
kook !!32zdfdzi+ triple-posted this 13 years ago, 36 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,691
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 45 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,692
@409,685 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Oh dear.
Their brains are different. They cannot help the way they feel. Please, don't demonise them as deluded crazies. And don't lump them all in with the obnoxious tumblr crowd.
Oh dear.
Their brains are different. They cannot help the way they feel. Please, don't demonise them as deluded crazies. And don't lump them all in with the obnoxious tumblr crowd.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 8 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,693
kook !!32zdfdzi+ double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,694
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,695
@409,693 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
You can look at their histories. Generally their family, and perhaps doctor,s will be able vouch, whereas a sex pest who decides to dress up as a woman and demand access to a female bathroom won't have this.
You can look at their histories. Generally their family, and perhaps doctor,s will be able vouch, whereas a sex pest who decides to dress up as a woman and demand access to a female bathroom won't have this.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,697
@previous (I)
So would they have to carry non sex pests cards? What kind of history? That they like to wear dresses? Would their computers be checked? If their families disagreed, would they be declared sex pests?
Either way, if you have a penis, you dont belong in the womens room.
So would they have to carry non sex pests cards? What kind of history? That they like to wear dresses? Would their computers be checked? If their families disagreed, would they be declared sex pests?
Either way, if you have a penis, you dont belong in the womens room.
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Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 56 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,698
@409,694 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Yes. But I'm disturbed by your attitude towards transsexuals. You make negative, sweeping generalisations about them despite being very progressive and forward-thinking in most other areas.
Yes. But I'm disturbed by your attitude towards transsexuals. You make negative, sweeping generalisations about them despite being very progressive and forward-thinking in most other areas.
Anonymous I double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,700
@409,697 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
I thought we were talking about family bathrooms now? I've agreed with you that it's probably best if they don't go into other bathrooms, as they'd probably put themselves into danger by doing so. It's really just a shitty situation for them (no pun intended).
I thought we were talking about family bathrooms now? I've agreed with you that it's probably best if they don't go into other bathrooms, as they'd probably put themselves into danger by doing so. It's really just a shitty situation for them (no pun intended).
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,702
@409,698 (I)
I see how they act/their biggest "leaders" act. If they actually cared about women, they would fight for family restrooms, instead of trying to force their way into the facilities for women. Because once you let transwomen in, you would have to let all males in.
I see how they act/their biggest "leaders" act. If they actually cared about women, they would fight for family restrooms, instead of trying to force their way into the facilities for women. Because once you let transwomen in, you would have to let all males in.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,703
@409,700 (I)
We are talking about both. They dont just get to go into the womens bathroom, because no family bathroom exists. That isnt how it works. They arent trying to push for their own bathrooms, that is the issue.
We are talking about both. They dont just get to go into the womens bathroom, because no family bathroom exists. That isnt how it works. They arent trying to push for their own bathrooms, that is the issue.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ triple-posted this 13 years ago, 45 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,704
There is a reason why you dont see transmen (females) trying to get into mens prisons and such.
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,706
@409,702 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
There we go again. "They". The obnoxious ones are not representative of all of them. I've seen transexuals who are very mild-mannered and respectful who just want to live as the other gender.
It's wrong to take negative stereotypes and apply it to all of them.
And what the self-declared "leaders" say is entirely irrelevant.
@409,703 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Yes, they should be pushing for family bathrooms. Obviously, forcing their way in is not the solution.
There we go again. "They". The obnoxious ones are not representative of all of them. I've seen transexuals who are very mild-mannered and respectful who just want to live as the other gender.
It's wrong to take negative stereotypes and apply it to all of them.
And what the self-declared "leaders" say is entirely irrelevant.
@409,703 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Yes, they should be pushing for family bathrooms. Obviously, forcing their way in is not the solution.
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kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,708
@previous (I)
What their leaders say isnt relevant? wtf? Who makes them leaders? I dont see all of these mild mannered tranawomen calling out the crazies. If I did it might be different.
Show me some, please.
What their leaders say isnt relevant? wtf? Who makes them leaders? I dont see all of these mild mannered tranawomen calling out the crazies. If I did it might be different.
Show me some, please.
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,709
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
How can a disorder have leaders? How? Do schizophrenics have leaders? What about those psychopaths? All that unities them is their GID. They're not an organised group.
How can a disorder have leaders? How? Do schizophrenics have leaders? What about those psychopaths? All that unities them is their GID. They're not an organised group.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,710
@previous (I)
They vote together as a block! How can black people have leaders? How can feminists have leaders?
Show me any of these rational transwomen calling out the crazies. please! I need to see this to feel better about all of this!
They vote together as a block! How can black people have leaders? How can feminists have leaders?
Show me any of these rational transwomen calling out the crazies. please! I need to see this to feel better about all of this!
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 34 seconds later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,711
Buspuppie, do you believe that having GID inherently makes somebody a bad person?
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,712
@previous (I)
No. But I do feel that many are raised with a feeling of entitlement towards women. It shows through their actions.
No. But I do feel that many are raised with a feeling of entitlement towards women. It shows through their actions.
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,713
@409,710 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Vote in what? Jesus christ, you're being so irrational right now. GID is a disorder. Not an organised group. The only link is the disorder itself. A person with GID is free to not campaign for bathroom rights and to not agree with what any prominent (loud) transsexual says.
Feminists don't necessarily have leaders either. Sure, feminist organisations do, but a woman can desire gender equality but be free to disagree with any feminist figurehead. Also, transsexuals are even less organised than feminists, as GID is a brain abnormality and not a political movement/ideal.
I wouldn't know how to find accounts of "moderate" transexuals disagreeing with the extreme ones. Of course, this must mean that they don't exist and are all extremists.
Vote in what? Jesus christ, you're being so irrational right now. GID is a disorder. Not an organised group. The only link is the disorder itself. A person with GID is free to not campaign for bathroom rights and to not agree with what any prominent (loud) transsexual says.
Feminists don't necessarily have leaders either. Sure, feminist organisations do, but a woman can desire gender equality but be free to disagree with any feminist figurehead. Also, transsexuals are even less organised than feminists, as GID is a brain abnormality and not a political movement/ideal.
I wouldn't know how to find accounts of "moderate" transexuals disagreeing with the extreme ones. Of course, this must mean that they don't exist and are all extremists.
Anonymous I double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #409,714
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 43 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,718
@409,713 (I)
Vite on this bathroom discrimination bullshit. Have you looked up any of this legislation?
Vite on this bathroom discrimination bullshit. Have you looked up any of this legislation?
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,721
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,723
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,724
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
What does "being at gunpoint have to do with it"?
Your point that "some transexuals support this cause" is not proof of "all transexuals support this cause".
What does "being at gunpoint have to do with it"?
Your point that "some transexuals support this cause" is not proof of "all transexuals support this cause".
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,725
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,729
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
So you take back your claims that all transexuals are like that?
And that still doesn't prove much about them as a whole. There's "enough support" for eugenics to be happening, but they do not represent all geneticists. Not by a long damn shot.
So you take back your claims that all transexuals are like that?
And that still doesn't prove much about them as a whole. There's "enough support" for eugenics to be happening, but they do not represent all geneticists. Not by a long damn shot.
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kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,731
@previous (I)
I'll say this. I am only against those who are pushing for this type of legislation, and those who are mra's. I include the person mentioned in the head story, as a bad person. All rational people are a treasure.
I'll say this. I am only against those who are pushing for this type of legislation, and those who are mra's. I include the person mentioned in the head story, as a bad person. All rational people are a treasure.
Cathy !TGirlYJKXM joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 18 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,732
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,734
@previous (Cathy !TGirlYJKXM)
Cathy, thats what they call it. They also say that a penis isnt a male organ when its attached to a "woman".
Cathy, thats what they call it. They also say that a penis isnt a male organ when its attached to a "woman".
Cathy !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,735
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,736
@409,731 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Okay, I can agree with this. Irrational, obnoxious transsexuals are bad. But it's their actions that should be criticised, not their GID.
Okay, I can agree with this. Irrational, obnoxious transsexuals are bad. But it's their actions that should be criticised, not their GID.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 47 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,737
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I have no problem with body dismorphic disorder, but I dont necessarily think that it should be legislated or encouraged.
I have no problem with body dismorphic disorder, but I dont necessarily think that it should be legislated or encouraged.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ double-posted this 13 years ago, 30 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,738
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,742
@409,737 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
You can't discourage it. Again, they cannot help it. It'll be there regardless of whether it's encouraged or not.
And it'd be cruel to not accept it, these people have enough idiots telling them they're insane or worthless. They don't need people being cold towards them.
You can't discourage it. Again, they cannot help it. It'll be there regardless of whether it's encouraged or not.
And it'd be cruel to not accept it, these people have enough idiots telling them they're insane or worthless. They don't need people being cold towards them.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,744
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
The problem is, that they are encouraged to have surgeries without any psychological intervention. The US did away with waiting periods, so many regret it later. I find that to be very cruel.
The problem is, that they are encouraged to have surgeries without any psychological intervention. The US did away with waiting periods, so many regret it later. I find that to be very cruel.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,746
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
It isn't always a clear-cut thing, sadly. Yes, there should be a brief waiting period and some sort of assessment to see if it's what they truly want.
It isn't always a clear-cut thing, sadly. Yes, there should be a brief waiting period and some sort of assessment to see if it's what they truly want.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,747
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Why brief? Its a life changing surgery that many regret and can never be taken back. Also, it has not been found to lower instances of suicide in transgendered people, because there are other mental issues that are ignored.
Why brief? Its a life changing surgery that many regret and can never be taken back. Also, it has not been found to lower instances of suicide in transgendered people, because there are other mental issues that are ignored.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,749
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
I figured that many of them might feel very eager to begin transitioning, but you also have a point. Maybe like a month or so? Enough time to establish if that's what they really want to do.
I figured that many of them might feel very eager to begin transitioning, but you also have a point. Maybe like a month or so? Enough time to establish if that's what they really want to do.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,758
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
More like six months. You used to have to live full time as the opposite gender for at least a year. A month is nothing.
More like six months. You used to have to live full time as the opposite gender for at least a year. A month is nothing.
!KThEOwLwbU replied with this 13 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,765
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,767
@409,758 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Well, I assume that the waiting period was changed because some of them felt that any waiting period was too long? Just wouldn't too many of them feeling frustrated over it.
Well, I assume that the waiting period was changed because some of them felt that any waiting period was too long? Just wouldn't too many of them feeling frustrated over it.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,768
@409,765 (!KThEOwLwbU)
And there hasn't been any outcry over that, I take it?
Huh, okay then. Suppose if it works then it works.
And there hasn't been any outcry over that, I take it?
Huh, okay then. Suppose if it works then it works.
!KThEOwLwbU replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,769
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,770
@previous (!KThEOwLwbU)
I didn't say that there would be. I was comparing it agaisnt the assumed reason for America changing their policy on it.
I didn't say that there would be. I was comparing it agaisnt the assumed reason for America changing their policy on it.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,807
kook !!32zdfdzi+ double-posted this 13 years ago, 15 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,808
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,822
@409,807 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Like I said, sadly, it's not always a clear-cut thing. I guess the best thing we can do is offer them therapy and a chance to move back towards their original gender (however possible that is).
Like I said, sadly, it's not always a clear-cut thing. I guess the best thing we can do is offer them therapy and a chance to move back towards their original gender (however possible that is).
beckyderp !8ElfFaoFao (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 41 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,824
thanks kook i love you!
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,833
kook !!32zdfdzi+ double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,835
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 10 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,836
@409,833 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
I remember a news story where a guy transitioned back. Though I don't know to what degree he actually did.
I remember a news story where a guy transitioned back. Though I don't know to what degree he actually did.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,841
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
They cant transition back their genitals. It becomes a horrible problem.
They cant transition back their genitals. It becomes a horrible problem.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,852
!KThEOwLwbU replied with this 13 years ago, 47 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,869
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,871
@previous (!KThEOwLwbU)
while they have penises? Yes, unless they have some sort of I'm a certified on estrogen,not crazy my therapists says so, transitioning for my surgery card.
while they have penises? Yes, unless they have some sort of I'm a certified on estrogen,not crazy my therapists says so, transitioning for my surgery card.
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advi !!3gpAcg/hF joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #409,873
It's weird. She looks masculine, but still somehow female.
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