kook !!32zdfdzi+ joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later[^][v]#407,577
Because some people hate fornication. I'm only against compound polygamy because children are involved, young men are run out, and women are treated like chattel.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#407,582
I’m in a polyamorous relationship. Shit’s so cash.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#407,598
Sure, why not. As long as it doesn't get weird, like in @407,577 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Syntax joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#407,601
Been in a modified one for a number of years.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#407,613
Jesus taught that the ideal was one man and one woman.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#407,615
> And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.â€
> They said to Him, “Why then did Moses command to give a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?â€
> He said to them, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.â€
Anonymous F double-posted this 13 years ago, 17 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#407,627
beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#407,667
I don't really care what people do, but I don't think these are very stable relationships. I'm not OK with bringing kids into it. It's not hard to just like, choose one person to bring up kids with.
squeegee joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#407,671
@407,626 (F)
Hey, here's a modern moral conundrum based on the wants an needs of todays generation. Let's see what ancient goat herders had to say about living in mud villages and believing in magic!
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 12 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#407,672
@407,666 (F)
not really. If the author couldnt have met Jesus, its very relevant.
squeegee !first/o5zA joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 17 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#407,674
Anonymous F replied with this 13 years ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#407,907
@407,667 (beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ)
muh liberty
muh liberty muhfugga
Anonymous F double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#407,908
@407,671 (squeegee) > moral conundrum based on wants
no lol
> implying morals are subjective > implying jesus or any of the apostles were goat herders
Anonymous F triple-posted this 13 years ago, 53 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#407,909
@407,672 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
everything written about Jesus was written after he died
obviously
why would you even ask that
that is dumb
please do not waste people's time with dumb questions
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#407,910
@previous (F)
So its all possibly inaccurate? Had the author of these books even met Jesus?
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 7 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#407,911
It makes me... uncomfortable for some reason. But obviously people should be able to do what they want and I'm not gonna try to tell people NOT to have polygamous relationships just because it doesn't sit well with me.
Anonymous F replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#407,913
@407,910 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
literally everything is possibly inaccurate
yes
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#407,938
@previous (F)
Was the author of these books alive while Jesus as alive?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#407,940
@407,913 (F) > using the "nothing is provable" argument yet again
damlol
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#407,941
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Maybe I'm wrong, but If the author could never have met Jesus, than how would he know his opinion on this?
Also, MM has used that argument for doctors declaring someone with a terminal diagnosis. Because they cant say down to the minute, about when someone will die.
HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#407,944
Let us think of the unintended consequences here. Beta males in the Middle East become suicide bombers over the promise of 72 virgins because they can't get a wife in the living world. In some countries in the Middle East, it is okay for a wealthy man to marry up to three wives.
HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#407,946
And think of the tax nightmare.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#407,958
@407,941 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Yeah, if he'd never met Jesus, then what he wrote would just be based on hearsay. This is clearly a good foundation to base an entire worldview on.
He also used it in that Ron Paul fanclub thread, saying that there was absolutely no way of knowing if those people who had made a website supporting his campaign were really his fans.
squeegee replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#407,960
@407,944 (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
If the chinese would quit aborting females and export then instead this would never be a problem.
HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#407,977
@previous (squeegee)
Chinese women wouldn't be the hot commodity it is today. They are to white men, what white women are to black men.
lolniggers joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#407,979
@407,960 (squeegee) @previous (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
actually, a chinese female exported to the west is just as likely to gain the offensive qualities of western women as native western women.
theyd have to grow at least to late teen - early adult in china
Anonymous F replied with this 13 years ago, 5 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#408,077
Anonymous F replied with this 13 years ago, 4 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#408,323
@408,113 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Yes, the Apostle Matthew.
Anonymous B replied with this 13 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#408,324
@previous (F)
It seems like people arent sure of that and that the author may have not known Jesus and based this text on the book of mark. Also,that these texts might have been written 40 years after Jesus died.
Anonymous B double-posted this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#408,325
Is this true?
The Gospel of Matthew does not name its author. The tradition that this was the disciple Matthew begins with the early Christian bishop Papias of Hierapolis (about 100–140 AD), who, in a passage with several ambiguous phrases, wrote: "Matthew collected the oracles (logia—sayings of or about Jesus) in the Hebrew language (Hebraïdi dialektÅi—perhaps alternatively "Hebrew style") and each one interpreted (hÄ“rmÄ“neusen—or "translated") them as best he could."[4] On the surface this implies that Matthew was written in Hebrew and translated into Greek, but Matthew's Greek "reveals none of the telltale marks of a translation."[5] Scholars have put forward several theories to explain Papias: perhaps Matthew wrote two gospels, one, now lost, in Hebrew, the other our Greek version; or perhaps the logia was a collection of sayings rather than the gospel; or by dialektÅi Papias may have meant that Matthew wrote in the Jewish style rather than in the Hebrew language.[4]
Papias does not identify his Matthew, but by the end of the 2nd century the tradition of Matthew the tax-collector had become widely accepted, and the line "The Gospel According to Matthew" began to be added to manuscripts.[6] For many reasons scholars today believe otherwise—for example, the gospel is based on Mark, and "it seems unlikely that an eyewitness of Jesus's ministry, such as Matthew, would need to rely on others for information about it"[7]—and believe instead that it was written between about 80–90 AD by a highly educated Jew (an "Israelite", in the language of the gospel itself), intimately familiar with the technical aspects of Jewish law, standing on the boundary between traditional and non-traditional Jewish values.[1] The disciple Matthew was probably honoured within the author's circle, as the name Matthew is more prominent in this gospel than any other.[8]
Anonymous F replied with this 13 years ago, 9 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#408,326
@408,324 (B)
All the books were written after Jesus died you know, because they are about his death and resurrection.
Anonymous B replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#408,327
@previous (F)
But it doesnt seem like he could have even been alive to know him. At what date did Jesus die?
Anonymous F replied with this 13 years ago, 30 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#408,328
@408,325 (B)
It is true in that they are really theories, yes.
Anonymous B replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#408,329
Is this when Jesus died?
Jesus (pron.: /ˈdÊ’iËzÉ™s/; Greek: Ἰησοῦς IÄ“sous; 7–2 BC/BCE to 30–36 AD/CE), also referred to as Jesus of Nazareth, is the central figure of Christianity, whom the teachings of most Christian denominations hold to be the Son of God.[7] Christians hold Jesus to be the awaited Messiah of the Old Testament and refer to him as Jesus Christ or simply as Christ,[8] a name that is also used secularly. Jesus is also considered to be a Prophet in Islam.
Anonymous B double-posted this 13 years ago, 44 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#408,330
@408,328 (F)
So could the author have been alive to know Jesus?
Anonymous B triple-posted this 13 years ago, 28 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#408,331
Papias does not identify his Matthew, but by the end of the 2nd century the tradition of Matthew the tax-collector had become widely accepted, and the line "The Gospel According to Matthew" began to be added to manuscripts.[6] For many reasons scholars today believe otherwise—for example, the gospel is based on Mark, and "it seems unlikely that an eyewitness of Jesus's ministry, such as Matthew, would need to rely on others for information about it"[7]—and believe instead that it was written between about 80–90 AD by a highly educated Jew (an "Israelite", in the language of the gospel itself), intimately familiar with the technical aspects of Jewish law, standing on the boundary between traditional and non-traditional Jewish values.[1] The disciple Matthew was probably honoured within the author's circle, as the name Matthew is more prominent in this gospel than any other.[8]
Anonymous F replied with this 13 years ago, 30 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#408,345
@408,341 (B)
To show that it is not impossible for books which reached their final forms earlier than John's gospel (the last to have been completed) to have been written by apostles who knew jesus
Anonymous F double-posted this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#408,346
@408,342 (B)
The information as presented is true but i think what you mean is "are the scholars correct"? and I would say no. One of the major assumptions is that they had to have been written after the destruction of the temple because jesus couldn't have actually foretold the future accurately