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henn started this discussion 13 years ago #26,941

Can I come visit when I get my passport?

Thanks.

sim joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later[^] [v] #405,156

no

henn (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #405,158

@previous (sim)
Awesome! Look forward to seeing you!

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 7 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #405,213

@previous (henn)
Do you need directions?

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #405,214

@previous (C)
I do. So I can show up with a minigun.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #405,273

@previous (D)
Sup Metæ?

Anonymous D replied with this 13 years ago, 45 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #405,274

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Whom?

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #405,275

@previous (D)
*Whome

Anonymous D replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #405,276

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Who: nominative form.
"The student who failed the test was very upset."
"I know the address of the girl who forgot her keys on my desk."

Whom: objective form.
Whom is formal and used mainly in writing. In conversation it is usually replaced by who (unless it follows a preposition):
"Tom, who(m) I have always trusted, told me the truth about the incident."
"The beggar to whom I gave some bread last night is back."
or
"The beggar who(m) I gave some bread to last night is back."

Who(m) may be omitted as objects in a relative clause:
"Tom is a man [whom] I have always trusted."
"The beggar [whom] I gave some bread to last night is back."

Whose: possessive form.
"That is the teacher whose students are bright."
"The new book, whose aim is to introduce you to the world of linguistics, is now available at the library."

Here are a few examples of interrogative pronouns:
"Who was at the party last night?"
"To whom did you lend my books?" / "Who(m) did you lend my books to?"
"Who(m) will you invite to your birthday party?"
"Whose notebook is this?" / "Whose is this notebook?"

Anonymous D double-posted this 13 years ago, 8 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #405,279

@405,275 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
The use of commas makes a difference in meaning between:
a) “My friend, whose hobby is collecting stamps, is coming"
and
b) “My friend whose hobby is collecting stamps is coming”
The first example implies that you have only one friend, and that they are coming to see you. The second implies that you may have several friends but only one of them –the one whose hobby is collecting stamps- is coming.

We call the relative clause in a) “non-restrictive”. A non-restrictive relative clause appears between commas and if it is omitted the sentence will still make perfect sense. The information provided by a non-restrictive relative clause is additional and not necessary for the sentence to make sense, it does not define the antecedent (the head of the nominal clause). This type of relative clause could be written between parenthesis or dashes.

There is yet another type of non-restrictive relative clause in which the antecedent is the whole clause/sentence. This type is always introduced by “which”, and the sentence it modifies may be replaced by “the fact”:
“He missed the train, which annoyed him very much”
It was missing the train (the fact that he mised the train) which annoyed him. “which” is replacing the whole clause, not “train”.

The clause in b) is “restrictive”. A restrictive relative clauses does not appear between commas, and the information it provides is necessary for the sentence to make complete sense. This type or relative calsue defines the “antecedent” (the head of the nominal phrase) and give it its definite connotation. In the example, we are told which of his brothers lives in London.

You also asked about “which”, “that”, “this” and “those”.
This/that and their plurals, these/those are demonstratives, and they may finction as either adjectives or pronouns.
Adjectives:
“This book is mine.”
“Those houses over there belong to the owner of the company.”
Pronouns:
“This has never happened to me before.”
“That is not your car.”
“Those are my sister’s books.”

“That” is sometimes confusing to students because the same spelling corresponds to different different parts of speech and fulfil different functions in a sentence. Two of them we have just seen (adjective and pronoun).
“That” is also a “relative pronoun”, and this is the type that can introduce a relative clause.
“The man that I met last week lives in Manchester.”

There is so much more to say about relative clauses!
By the way, do you happen to have a grammar book? All this is surely much better explained in a book, more clearly and with lots of examples.

I hope this won't confuse you more

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 9 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #405,280

@previous (D)
Look, man, I'm not looking for any trouble.

Anonymous D replied with this 13 years ago, 27 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #405,286

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I know. I merely left if there so Becky can fap to it.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 12 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #405,294

@previous (D)
Oh, didn't know she was into grammar. Explains the wiseguy thing, then.

Anonymous D replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #405,295

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Only British spelling and grammar.

beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #405,298

@previous (D)
Wow!
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