Topic: A List of “Men’s Rights†Issues That Feminism Is Already Working On
Anonymous A started this discussion 13 years ago #26,770
http://notes.husk.org/post/46533757979/mens-rights-issues-feminism
> Feminists do not want you to lose custody of your children. The assumption that women are naturally better caregivers is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not like commercials in which bumbling dads mess up the laundry and competent wives have to bustle in and fix it. The assumption that women are naturally better housekeepers is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not want you to have to make alimony payments. Alimony is set up to combat the fact that women have been historically expected to prioritize domestic duties over professional goals, thus minimizing their earning potential if their “traditional†marriages end. The assumption that wives should make babies instead of money is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not want anyone to get raped in prison. Permissiveness and jokes about prison rape are part of rape culture, which is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not want anyone to be falsely accused of rape. False rape accusations discredit rape victims, which reinforces rape culture, which is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not want you to be lonely and we do not hate “nice guys.†The idea that certain people are inherently more valuable than other people because of superficial physical attributes is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not want you to have to pay for dinner. We want the opportunity to achieve financial success on par with men in any field we choose (and are qualified for), and the fact that we currently don’t is part of patriarchy. The idea that men should coddle and provide for women, and/or purchase their affections in romantic contexts, is condescending and damaging and part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not want you to be maimed or killed in industrial accidents, or toil in coal mines while we do cushy secretarial work and various yarn-themed activities. The fact that women have long been shut out of dangerous industrial jobs (by men, by the way) is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not want you to commit suicide. Any pressures and expectations that lower the quality of life of either gender are part of patriarchy. The fact that depression is characterized as an effeminate weakness, making men less likely to seek treatment, is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not want you to be viewed with suspicion when you take your child to the park (men frequently insist that this is a serious issue, so I will take them at their word). The assumption that men are insatiable sexual animals, combined with the idea that it’s unnatural for men to care for children, is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not want you to be drafted and then die in a war while we stay home and iron stuff. The idea that women are too weak to fight or too delicate to function in a military setting is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not want women to escape prosecution on legitimate domestic violence charges, nor do we want men to be ridiculed for being raped or abused. The idea that women are naturally gentle and compliant and that victimhood is inherently feminine is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists hate patriarchy. We do not hate you.
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> Feminists do not want you to lose custody of your children. The assumption that women are naturally better caregivers is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not like commercials in which bumbling dads mess up the laundry and competent wives have to bustle in and fix it. The assumption that women are naturally better housekeepers is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not want you to have to make alimony payments. Alimony is set up to combat the fact that women have been historically expected to prioritize domestic duties over professional goals, thus minimizing their earning potential if their “traditional†marriages end. The assumption that wives should make babies instead of money is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not want anyone to get raped in prison. Permissiveness and jokes about prison rape are part of rape culture, which is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not want anyone to be falsely accused of rape. False rape accusations discredit rape victims, which reinforces rape culture, which is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not want you to be lonely and we do not hate “nice guys.†The idea that certain people are inherently more valuable than other people because of superficial physical attributes is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not want you to have to pay for dinner. We want the opportunity to achieve financial success on par with men in any field we choose (and are qualified for), and the fact that we currently don’t is part of patriarchy. The idea that men should coddle and provide for women, and/or purchase their affections in romantic contexts, is condescending and damaging and part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not want you to be maimed or killed in industrial accidents, or toil in coal mines while we do cushy secretarial work and various yarn-themed activities. The fact that women have long been shut out of dangerous industrial jobs (by men, by the way) is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not want you to commit suicide. Any pressures and expectations that lower the quality of life of either gender are part of patriarchy. The fact that depression is characterized as an effeminate weakness, making men less likely to seek treatment, is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not want you to be viewed with suspicion when you take your child to the park (men frequently insist that this is a serious issue, so I will take them at their word). The assumption that men are insatiable sexual animals, combined with the idea that it’s unnatural for men to care for children, is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not want you to be drafted and then die in a war while we stay home and iron stuff. The idea that women are too weak to fight or too delicate to function in a military setting is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists do not want women to escape prosecution on legitimate domestic violence charges, nor do we want men to be ridiculed for being raped or abused. The idea that women are naturally gentle and compliant and that victimhood is inherently feminine is part of patriarchy.
> Feminists hate patriarchy. We do not hate you.
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kook !!32zdfdzi+ joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 37 minutes later[^] [v] #403,767
Its true. In fact, I havent really seen men's rights advocates do any activism. Just hating women over the internet.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 17 minutes later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #403,771
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #403,773
@previous (C)
No they dont. Its not alpha to bitch on the internet. They also lie to their own people. Larkin send me a link from the voice for men about how a police dog attacked a man because he wouldn't leave a woman house. Turned out, they weren't even looking for him, and the dog snapped when it found him hiding in the bushes. 100% the cops fault, but the article somehow tried to blame the woman.
No they dont. Its not alpha to bitch on the internet. They also lie to their own people. Larkin send me a link from the voice for men about how a police dog attacked a man because he wouldn't leave a woman house. Turned out, they weren't even looking for him, and the dog snapped when it found him hiding in the bushes. 100% the cops fault, but the article somehow tried to blame the woman.
Anonymous C replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,784
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
> implying so hard
there is no bitching among the alphas, it is divided evenly among the feminist "trolls" and men just waking up- just like waking from the matrix, waking up from betaism requires slogging through the denial, rage, and despair of the real world ripping away at the manufactured illusion.
> implying so hard
there is no bitching among the alphas, it is divided evenly among the feminist "trolls" and men just waking up- just like waking from the matrix, waking up from betaism requires slogging through the denial, rage, and despair of the real world ripping away at the manufactured illusion.
HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,786
HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q double-posted this 13 years ago, 56 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,787
@OP
Why would women want to perform dangerous work instead of cushy desk jobs?
Why would women want to perform dangerous work instead of cushy desk jobs?
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,788
@403,784 (C)
lol whatever you say. These same "alphas" murder other men, which mra's do bitch about.
lol whatever you say. These same "alphas" murder other men, which mra's do bitch about.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ double-posted this 13 years ago, 30 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,789
@403,787 (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
Why would anyone? If women wish to be stupid, and join the army and push for the womens draft, than let them.
Why would anyone? If women wish to be stupid, and join the army and push for the womens draft, than let them.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ triple-posted this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,790
Another thing, mra's bitch about child support, but also try and limit birth control and abortion. lol Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.
HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 50 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,791
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,793
@previous (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
No one should be forced into the army. The same men who whine about women not being drafted, are also the people who try and keep women out of combat. Which is hilariously stupid.
No one should be forced into the army. The same men who whine about women not being drafted, are also the people who try and keep women out of combat. Which is hilariously stupid.
Anonymous C replied with this 13 years ago, 8 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,957
@403,786 (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
@403,788 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
keep living in your retarded fantasy world, i dont care; this disproves both of your posts
@403,788 (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
keep living in your retarded fantasy world, i dont care; this disproves both of your posts
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,958
HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 53 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,959
@403,957 (C)
BENEDICT2016 LEGALIZE CHILDHOOD DECADENCE WAKE UP SHEEPLE TAXES ARE OUT TO GET YOU RETARDS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO OWN NUCLEAR MISSILES
BENEDICT2016 LEGALIZE CHILDHOOD DECADENCE WAKE UP SHEEPLE TAXES ARE OUT TO GET YOU RETARDS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO OWN NUCLEAR MISSILES
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 11 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,960
@403,957 (C)
btw, the patriarchy hurts both men and women. I noticed that you didnt bother to respond to op at all.
btw, the patriarchy hurts both men and women. I noticed that you didnt bother to respond to op at all.
HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 14 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,961
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 37 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,962
kook !!32zdfdzi+ double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,963
HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 47 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,964
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
Ninjj has been a total cunt ever since he's been denied access to that sweet, sweet golden asshole.
Ninjj has been a total cunt ever since he's been denied access to that sweet, sweet golden asshole.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,965
Tell us anon C, what are mens rights advocates doing to help the problems of men? Anything to help suicide, murder, poverty, etc?
HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,966
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,967
@403,964 (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
@previous (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
Thats what they do. They dont care about the pain of males as long as women are hurt in the process. Its a sick way of viewing the world.
@previous (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
Thats what they do. They dont care about the pain of males as long as women are hurt in the process. Its a sick way of viewing the world.
HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,969
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,970
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,971
@403,969 (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
Its true. These same people often taunt other men for not living up stereotypical gender roles. So men who are depressed/mentally ill dont seek treatment, because it feels like a weakness.
Its true. These same people often taunt other men for not living up stereotypical gender roles. So men who are depressed/mentally ill dont seek treatment, because it feels like a weakness.
HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 15 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,972
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
I see nothing wrong with the male gender role. It is the traits of helplessness, dependence and vanity in the female gender role, that is the problem.
I see nothing wrong with the male gender role. It is the traits of helplessness, dependence and vanity in the female gender role, that is the problem.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,973
@previous (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
Thats a problem as well. Men and women socialize females to act in that manner. Though, male gender roles can be a problem for men who do not conform.
Thats a problem as well. Men and women socialize females to act in that manner. Though, male gender roles can be a problem for men who do not conform.
HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,974
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,975
@previous (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
Men are less likely to seek medical care because we expect males in our society, to take pain stoically. They are also less .likely to use mental health services, because they dont want to seem weak. That isnt a positive type of conformity.
Men are less likely to seek medical care because we expect males in our society, to take pain stoically. They are also less .likely to use mental health services, because they dont want to seem weak. That isnt a positive type of conformity.
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HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,976
@previous (kook !!32zdfdzi+)
We are expected to take pain stoically because medicine is fucking expensive.
We are expected to take pain stoically because medicine is fucking expensive.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #403,977
@previous (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
Not only that, but men are expected to eat crap because vegetables are "feminine" lol. This also leads to men having more health problems than women. This isnt good conformity.
Not only that, but men are expected to eat crap because vegetables are "feminine" lol. This also leads to men having more health problems than women. This isnt good conformity.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 11 hours later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #404,022
> women are better MRA's than men.
> hurr durr feminism is not a supremacist ideology.
> hurr durr feminism is not a supremacist ideology.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #404,037
!KThEOwLwbU joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #404,039
What even is patriarchy
It sounds like conspiracy theorists talking about the illuminati
It sounds like conspiracy theorists talking about the illuminati
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #404,040
@previous (!KThEOwLwbU)
Its a system of government/society where a small group of men hold the power to the detriment of women, and other men.
Its a system of government/society where a small group of men hold the power to the detriment of women, and other men.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #404,041
@404,039 (!KThEOwLwbU)
They're a subspecies of reptilians that feed on the suffering of women. To do this, they disguise themselves as misogynistic men.
Feminists are warrior women who dedicate themselves to rooting out this particular brand of reptilian.
They're a subspecies of reptilians that feed on the suffering of women. To do this, they disguise themselves as misogynistic men.
Feminists are warrior women who dedicate themselves to rooting out this particular brand of reptilian.
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kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 54 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #404,042
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kook !!32zdfdzi+ triple-posted this 13 years ago, 29 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #404,049
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #404,065
@403,786 (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
@403,786 (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
You don't "earn" being an alpha. You're either born one, or not. Fucking Idiot.
@403,786 (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
You don't "earn" being an alpha. You're either born one, or not. Fucking Idiot.
HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #404,066
@previous (I)
> doesn't know what an alpha is
A beta becomes an alpha when the alpha dies. A beta male is a vice president.
> doesn't know what an alpha is
A beta becomes an alpha when the alpha dies. A beta male is a vice president.
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #404,069
squeegee joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 28 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #404,071
@404,066 (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
A beta is a beta regardless who dies. You wouldn't magically start acting alpha just because you're the number one beta. The next alpha to come along will prove who's who. The top beta is like a lady in waiting.
A beta is a beta regardless who dies. You wouldn't magically start acting alpha just because you're the number one beta. The next alpha to come along will prove who's who. The top beta is like a lady in waiting.
HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #404,077
kook !!32zdfdzi+ replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #404,078
@404,071 (squeegee)
Well, in a lion's pride, every male below the single alpha is technically a beta. So they stay betas until the alpha dies, and or they overthrow him.
Well, in a lion's pride, every male below the single alpha is technically a beta. So they stay betas until the alpha dies, and or they overthrow him.
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Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #404,087
All of those "points" are about how harming men indirectly affects women.