Okay so here is the story (cannot release agency name yet),
I'm Driving down a large interstate (on Dec 31 2010) when i expressed my first amendment right and flipped off a state trooper out my window. While he speeds up 80+ mph behind me (as defined in the video), i slow down and pull over. He claimed that i used "excessive brakes" and it was reckless driving. Long story short he came to the car, asked me to turn it off and stated "what is your problem, why did you flip me off". I stated "because this is America". he quickly arrested me and shipped me off to jail with an M4 "making an obscene or offensive gesture", an M5 reckless driving, and speeding.
After i bonded out, i knew i had the right to flip off an officer. I told him this, but it still landed me in jail. I did more research and found several cases where people have sued police agency's over this false arrest. Usually people are ticketed for the offense and not charged with an M4. The law states that you have a right to express the finger one time to any person (except courts, etc). This officer clearly was emotionally driven, which will in turn be his downfall.
I contacted the ACLU a few days after my arrest and they gave me the general welcome ACLU letter. About two months later i got a reply stating they were inquiring "more information" about my case. They listed several questions which i forwarded back to them. Hopefully just hopefully the ACLU will represent me.
I have my criminal case in the next few days, and my lawyer stated that everything should be settled except the speeding. He actually hopes the judge rules against me so we can move this into higher courts and have a better chance at the civil case. My lawyer is also providing many case law examples for my behalf.
Thankfully this whole incident was recorded on the dash cam. In the film, You can CLEARLY see i violated no laws except speeding. As charlie sheen said, this should be a case of WINNING!!!!!!!!
Hey Leonidas ur gonna love this new upload. Check back
Scooby !ScoobyEwvk joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 56 minutes after the original post[^][v]#48,874
@48,871 (llama) > The law states that you have a right to express the finger one time to any person (except courts, etc). > (etc)
You just learnt a valuable lesson in life, which is, DONT BE AN ASSHOLE TO THE LAW.If you needed them, you would expect prompt assistance, but you would rather act a douche and pretend your a tough guy.
The finger is not a toy bud, grow up.
llama (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[^][v]#48,876
I have and use many personal rights, but that does not allow me to be disrespectful and insulting to others. Freedom of speech and expression come with responsibility, shame you are too immature to act responsibly.
Freedom of speech and expression means you can say and do what you want WITHOUT causing upset or disgust.
You may have those rights, but if you breach/overstep the mark, you will get punished.
NEVER disrepect the emergency services, you never know when you need them, Grow up and gain some respect for other's.
Your parents must be proud of you being such an asshole, if your the best your parents could do at raising a child, I would hate to see what else thay cant do.
llama joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 26 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#48,974
@48,927 (Gil !NArMoRhDhY)
If you live in America, you should learn your rights. Don't give me this karma bullshit. @48,897 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
Working on it. Its not a simple video file its all compressed in this court video player bullshit. Don't know how to export it out i'm looking. it's called Insight AV player
@previous (Scooby !ScoobyEwvk)
First off your first amendment rights DO allow you to be disrespectful and insulting to others. It also allows you to cause them to be upset or disgusted. Obviously Freedom of speech has its limits (you can't threaten lives, or induce panic at a school, etc.) but you sir are completely incorrect. You see if i meet you on the street and say "Fuck you im glad your mom passed away, your a fucking bitch that's going nowhere. Your a LOOSER MAN A LOOSER MANNNNN" Yes you will be disrespected, yes you will be insulted, yes you will be upset and disgusted. But WHAT U GONNA DO BOY. Nothing. Because what i said to you was completely legal.
In my case, i used our free speech rights almost to our limits. The trooper made a poor professional decision and he will pay in court like the rest of us do. Some people applaud me while other pig lovers like yourself bash me. BOTTOM LINE KID, USE YOUR RIGHTS OR YOU WILL LOOSE THEM!
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llama double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#48,982
The vid is an 820 MB .av file, anyone wanna give me some advice in converting it.
Anonymous H replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#48,995
@previous (llama)
1. poop
2. freeze it
3. fuck it up your ass
Nickalollyoff !Aw0s40dyqw joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 30 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#48,996
Ninjj !Cat420tfMU replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,095
@previous (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
That is what he did. Look at the fucking pictures.
"It's a free country" - OP as he kicks sand into child's face at the playground
Gil !NArMoRhDhY replied with this 15 years ago, 57 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,181
@48,974 (llama)
I understand my rights, and use them as I please. I hope you flip your car and that same trooper shows up and saves your ass, because that would entertain me.
llama replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,189
@previous (Gil !NArMoRhDhY)
I use my rights as i please also. Stop whining fuckin pig lover
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Ash Ketchup !iC5Sra0Wb2 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,191
> I'm Driving down a large interstate (on Dec 31 2010) when i expressed my first amendment right and flipped off a state trooper out my window.
Well you're a rude asshole and I hold no sympathy for all the trouble you put yourself in by being a dick.
llama replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,195
@previous (Ash Ketchup !iC5Sra0Wb2)
Thanks for your opinion.
Ash Ketchup !iC5Sra0Wb2 replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,200
> I use my rights as i please also. Stop whining fuckin pig lover
Your inability to intelligently debate leads me to believe that you have the approximate IQ of a goldfish.
Enjoy getting your frivolous lawsuit thrown out in court.
Ash Ketchup !iC5Sra0Wb2 replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,206
Why should I cry about it? I'm not a social retard who can't control his actions and shouldn't be allowed outside.
Ninjj !Cat420tfMU replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,209
@49,205 (Gil !NArMoRhDhY)
Can you imagine how he reacted after he was pulled over? He was probably being such a prick
Gil !NArMoRhDhY replied with this 15 years ago, 59 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,246
@previous (Ninjj !Cat420tfMU)
Considering his idea of freely expressing his rights consisted of flipping off a cop, that would come as no surprise.
llama replied with this 15 years ago, 55 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,272
@49,205 (Gil !NArMoRhDhY) > Your inability to intelligently debate leads me to believe that you have the approximate IQ of a goldfish.
We were never in a debate, geese you are more delusional than i thought. Why would i debate with someone who is wishing that "I hope you flip your car".
> Enjoy getting your frivolous lawsuit thrown out in court.
I will enjoy the judge telling the officer that he was incorrect while he throws out that charge.
> Why should I cry about it? I'm not a social retard who can't control his actions and shouldn't be allowed outside.
Im not a social retard, and i can control my actions. You must have down syndrom if you believe your own statement. I was not "out of control" i made a legal expression to the officer. I deliebertly did this, so i can prove to the state of ohio that they need better training on this issue. Ohio will comply just like PA did. "As part of the settlement, the city promised to "train its officers in recognizing when they are violating someone's civil rights, including taking action against anyone who flips them off," the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports.
> Then what's the point of flipping him off? You spineless wimp!
What do you mean "Whats the point". The point is that i'm sending him a message to FUCK OFF. FUCK THE POLICE MAN! WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT?
That's my "Opinion". You stick to yours, ill stick to mine.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,283
@previous (llama) > FUCK THE POLICE MAN! WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT?
Unless you're being abused by corrupt cops, you're just being a little bitch who's pissing off people so he can sue them for getting mad.
You are a shitty human being.
llama replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,288
I'm suing them to change the policy, not to gain funds off the case. I don't support flag burning but i do support freedom of speech.
Ill leave you with a final quote "Courts have interpreted this section of the statute very narrowly to bar only speech and conduct that is truly obscene and thus outside of First Amendment protection," said Sara Rose, an ACLU attorney.
"The law is clear that using one's middle finger to express discontent or frustration is expressive conduct that is protected by the First Amendment."
For all you legalfags:http://lawreview.law.ucdavis.edu/issues/41-4_Robbins.pdf - Digitus Impudicus: The middle Finger and the Law
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Gil !NArMoRhDhY replied with this 15 years ago, 14 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,299
Lawl OP is a communist.
jump !VIfloDyEYo joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,304
Good for you OP. Law enforcement are out of control in our country.
I hope you win.
Gil !NArMoRhDhY replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,309
@49,288 (llama)
And now serious again.
OP, you are a flaming asshole. You flipped off a cop, then sped off. If you really wanted to make a valid point, you should have just flipped him off standing right in front of his car, then stood there, allowing you to say that he arrested you just for flipping the bird. He pulled you over because you were speeding, as far as the system is concerned, and you were also belligerent.
Ninjj !Cat420tfMU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,311
@49,280 (llama)
You say fuck the police and then call him "sir"? That makes you a spineless wimp, wimp.
Ninjj !Cat420tfMU double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,312
@49,309 (Gil !NArMoRhDhY)
And on an icy road. OP is a moran faggor turkey
Gil !NArMoRhDhY replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,317
How it really happened:
Op plays at being tough guy, flips off cop, then pussies out and speeds away. Cop pulls him over, op acts like a douche, gets arrested. Crys in jail, then sues police, playing at being a crusader for his rights.
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Ninjj !Cat420tfMU replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,323
> >FUCK THE POLICE MAN! WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT? > Unless you're being abused by corrupt cops, you're just being a little bitch who's pissing off people so he can sue them for getting mad. > > You are a shitty human being.
I've always believed he read a news story about this happening and then made it all up.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,329
> You say fuck the police and then call him "sir"? That makes you a spineless wimp, wimp.
Think about it. You flip off a cop from the safety of your car, thinking he can't do anything because it's against the law. Then you're chased by a cop and get all scared and oh shit. "Sorry sir, it won't happen again."
Gil !NArMoRhDhY replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,330
@49,328 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
I guess he means we must all be related to cops. I'm not, but the cops who hang out at the quikchek by my house are cool.
Ninjj !Cat420tfMU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,334
@previous (Gil !NArMoRhDhY)
I've never had any trouble with cops because I'm not a prick like OP. call 911 if you're in trouble cops are heroes
Jack !gOStA1p7Pc joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,360
> And now serious again. > OP, you are a flaming asshole. You flipped off a cop, then sped off. If you really wanted to make a valid point, you should have just flipped him off standing right in front of his car, then stood there, allowing you to say that he arrested you just for flipping the bird. He pulled you over because you were speeding, as far as the system is concerned, and you were also belligerent.
"I sped off". Are you retarded? Did you ever hear of pulling off to the side of the road? I was speeding but being cooperative not belligerent. Please read the first post!
> > You say fuck the police and then call him "sir"? That makes you a spineless wimp, wimp. > > Think about it. You flip off a cop from the safety of your car, thinking he can't do anything because it's against the law. Then you're chased by a cop and get all scared and oh shit. "Sorry sir, it won't happen again."
I never apologized for my actions. My first and really only comment was "because this is America" as you can see in the first post.
> I guess he means we must all be related to cops. I'm not, but the cops who hang out at the quikchek by my house are cool.
Yea, i meant you all seem to be related or are friends with cops. So other than your friendly neighborhood cops, what is your basis for supporting all other officers? The law is straightforward in this matter. The cop fucked up and he will pay his dues in court.
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> Isn't it considered a type of assault? That's what I've always heard.
Nope.
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Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,394
lol he didn't initially do anything to validate flipping him off anyway.
what happened later was gay but you were kind of being a nigger.
gb2 smoking pot, faggot
Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 30 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,425
I don't like piggies, but you're just fucking stupid. Of course he's going to pull you over, don't tempt people with more power than you to exercise it. I've berated a cop when I was in handcuffs and it was already clear I was spending the night in juvie...but that isn't the same than thinking you're a bad-ass for flicking off a cop while you're wizzing by at 80 miles an hour.
Personally I wish you had gotten the maximum sentence on every charge for being such a tremendous faggot.
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Anonymous Q replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,438
> Pretty much this. > > I don't like piggies, but you're just fucking stupid. Of course he's going to pull you over, don't tempt people with more power than you to exercise it. I've berated a cop when I was in handcuffs and it was already clear I was spending the night in juvie...but that isn't the same than thinking you're a bad-ass for flicking off a cop while you're wizzing by at 80 miles an hour. > > Personally I wish you had gotten the maximum sentence on every charge for being such a tremendous faggot.
> So you admit you were speeding and he didn't make that up.
From my first post: Thankfully this whole incident was recorded on the dash cam. In the film, You can CLEARLY see i violated no laws except speeding. As charlie sheen said, this should be a case of WINNING!!!!!!!!
How many times do i have to tell you to read before posting? Of course i admitted to speeding.
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Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,473
llama replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,479
I'm done with this shitty topic. There is nothing more to say here, its all black and white. We know the cop fucked up, so what.
I Will post results by tues/wed of this case. Evidence will be posted of a WINNING WIN WIN WIN CASE! Ill be sure to copy the court transcript where the judge bashes the officer about his poor choices.
Hasta luego haters
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,487
lol
llama replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,490
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> You will lose. You were fucking speeding.
I loose on that charge. I pay a ticket to watch the cop get smashed on by the judge. Also i get to *hopefully change the Ohio Troopers policy on these types of frivolous issues. Dude i'm tellin' ya its gonna end up the same as this, except i'm not going to get paid: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1923125,00.html - Do You have the right to flip off a cop: TIMES
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,494
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Morons: they just make lawyers richâ„¢
llama replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,497
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Your comments are so poor in quality i have no comment.
Lawrence !9p5vCatBBQ joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,503
This thread makes my mind full of fuck. (Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.) > can't spell > thinks he can win in court
Also this. OP, your grammar is atrocious. Not only do I doubt your capability to articulate your case in court, but the way you spell makes me want to slit my wrists. Please go spend a few years in middle school English classes and then come back.
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llama replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,511
> Not only do I doubt your capability to articulate a case in court, but the way you spell makes me want to slit my wrists. Please go spend a few years in middle school English classes and then come back.
That's what i have my trusty ol' lawyers for (2). Money buys you great stability. I already know i'm a WINNER in this matter, i have enough case law and evidence on my side. Thankfully pigs are equipped with dash cam videos, man those things save the day. Saved me a witness! Oh and fuck off about my grammar. GO BACK TO ANONTALK, NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR YOUR GRAMMAR RANTS.
Lawrence !9p5vCatBBQ replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,522
@previous (llama) > WINNER > GO BACK TO ANONTALK > BONERS
Anonymous E replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,553
@previous (Lawrence !9p5vCatBBQ)
You know what would make this thread better?
Zombie Helen Keller !.Durp3O0PY joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,570
@48,974 (llama) > If you live in America, you should learn your rights. Don't give me this karma bullshit.
Wow...this whole thread, but this statement in general. America_lol.jpg
In Europe, we have something called respect (like (Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
stated)...especially for those in authority.
Pic related. What I picture op to look like in my head...except fatter.
Also, I hope you lose the case, because your rage is hilarious!
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Anonymous W joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,572
> >If you live in America, you should learn your rights. Don't give me this karma bullshit. > > Wow...this whole thread, but this statement in general. America_lol.jpg > > In Europe, we have something called respect (like (Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.) > stated)...especially for those in authority. > > Pic related. What I picture op to look like in my head...except fatter. >
I do have respect for the pigs, i simply expressed my freedom of speech in this country. Last time a guy flipped off a campera in Europe he got fucked. Probably because of that shitty Monarch system you have.
And for clarification im not fat, i hate fat people.
> I was not "out of control" i made a legal expression to the officer. I deliebertly did this, so i can prove to the state of ohio that they need better training on this issue.
No you didn't, you did it because you're a faggot. But not to worry, you'll soon be caught with an illegal weapon and shot dead after 'discharging' it at an officer.
llama (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 25 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,653
> >I was not "out of control" i made a legal expression to the officer. I deliberately did this, so i can prove to the state of ohio that they need better training on this issue. > > No you didn't, you did it because you're a faggot. But not to worry, you'll soon be caught with an illegal weapon and shot dead after 'discharging' it at an officer.
I researched this issue and flipped off hundreds of cops in my past. I completely was aware that this issue was legal and don't give a fuck about your opinion. You're the fucking faggot. All you do is make illogical, outlandish replies like a 13 y/o kid. The fuck.
Sorry "Ash" your little pig friends aren't gonna win this war. Dude fucked with the wrong guy, I am not backing down until this has FULLY gone through civil court. New training will be administered in Ohio, and hopefully this cop can get his much needed suspension. If you live in Ohio i'm helping YOU out! If you live in PA, Kansas, etc go do it all day!
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AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,656
> I researched this issue and flipped off hundreds of cops in my past
Ash Ketchup !iC5Sra0Wb2 replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^][v]#49,657
Hahah, yeaeeeah. If you had respect for "pigs", you wouldn't be calling officers that, nor would you have flipped one off. What is wrong with your brain? I seriously think you are retarded.
llama (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#49,825
> Hahah, yeaeeeah. If you had respect for "pigs", you wouldn't be calling officers that, nor would you have flipped one off. What is wrong with your brain? I seriously think you are retarded.
Respect is a broad term. I have respect for pigs in the fact that they are helpful and much needed for a functioning society. My terminology and the use of the word "pigs" is simply a personal choice. This is America bud, i can use any choice of words as i please. I have seen this forum and the disrespectful, racist people that are on here. Calling me disrespectful, come on now i know you hand around 4chan. Don't give me that pussy shit.
Ash Ketchup !iC5Sra0Wb2 replied with this 15 years ago, 47 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#49,829
LLAMA (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 29 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#49,831
@49,810 (Zombie Helen Keller !.Durp3O0PY)
SHUT UP YOU STUPID LITTLE BITCH I WENT TO BERKLEE AND SKIMMED THROUGH THE BILL OF RIGHTS THE US COURT SYSTEM SHALL BOW BEFORE MY EXCELLENT LEGAL TEAM AND IMPENETRABLE DEFENSE.
Juvenile Charlie Sheen reference here
llama (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#49,835
> SHUT UP YOU STUPID LITTLE BITCH I WENT TO BERKLEE AND SKIMMED THROUGH THE BILL OF RIGHTS THE US COURT SYSTEM SHALL BOW BEFORE MY EXCELLENT LEGAL TEAM AND IMPENETRABLE DEFENSE. > > Juvenile Charlie Sheen reference here
FAKE OP IS FAKE. U LOOSEFUCKINGTRYAGAINBITCH
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AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#49,837
@previous (llama) > I researched this issue and flipped off hundreds of cops in my past
LLAMA (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#49,840
@49,835 (llama)
This is America! Your argument is invalid.
Nega !.Y4iB6KrDo joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#49,842
ITT: e-Lawyers and their ilk, mixed into a concoction more obscure than the ingredients of British Kebab.
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Gil !NArMoRhDhY replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#49,958
opisagloriouswingedfaggot.jpg
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Anonymous R replied with this 15 years ago, 1 day later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#50,948
OP lost in court and is currently getting his little rich white rectum pounded open in the county jail cell he shares with 10 large african american gentlemen.
Anonymous Z-2 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#50,989
llamas are all faggots
totoforhire !!pNz4kjfeW replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#50,991
@previous (Z-2)
I will love any animal that spits when it's angry.
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#51,061